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Also, for a treat to readers, I shall hereby run all future posts through grammarly, so that my horrible grammar (as a result of not having time to sit down and edit it) may not cause people to pull hairs out their head. At least I will till I get tired of it and just say screw it ^^ | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/06/costanza-wink.gif) | ||
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Also the flavor sounds like triple h's talk of seth rollins after he help owens get the title. | ||
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On April 06 2017 10:40 sicklucker wrote: i promise to play a game of mafia I promise to not fall off the face of the earth I promise to actually have a life I promise that I will not uphold my promise of running my posts through grammarly tonight. Oh! I promise that I will eat less dairy products. | ||
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On April 06 2017 10:45 Tumblewood wrote: this is exciting I mean did you see the hardy boys come back??? + Show Spoiler + DELETE | ||
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On April 06 2017 10:49 Tumblewood wrote: i had forgotten what it was like to play with shapelog Oi, Likewise. | ||
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On April 06 2017 10:45 Tumblewood wrote: this is exciting | ||
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If you were to change your name, what name would you adopt going forward? Mine would be Mr. Dungle | ||
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On April 06 2017 11:25 Tumblewood wrote: THANK YOU MR HOST BUT YOU'RE DISTRACTING ME FROM THE INTENSE GAME OF MAFIA I'M PLAYING Talking to a mafia qt does not take that much work Tumbledore. On April 06 2017 11:26 sicklucker wrote: all i can say is i wish i rolled mafia because im more likely to get points but im town sadly Dude just get MVP Ez | ||
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oh wait i get 10 points for winning as town sweet. lets go even using sick angle shooting skills[/QUOTE] Took Trigonometry right? | ||
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On April 06 2017 11:31 Tumblewood wrote: excuse me You are excused from your absence from talking in the thread due to your ridiculous texting to that sick, filthy, quicktopic you and your friend has. I just mark it as tardy in the attendance folder | ||
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Ciao, got to wake up at 5 am, and it's 10:50 pm rn. | ||
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On April 06 2017 11:58 darthfoley wrote: I, too, forgot the sheer joy I get from playing with 25 page Shapelog filter Yeah but this time, my content to shitpost ratio will be 40%:60% instead of my norm 20%:80%. | ||
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On April 06 2017 19:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: "i can't get any points as town  "wtf? explain. Since my screen says: 1.Holyflare- 105 2.sicklucker- 60 45 != 10. Maybe a mistake but: "I went to read the OP but i still can't figure out 45 is not 10." sicklucker i am looking for a reasonable explanation to this. Can't tell one atm. Maybe it has something to do with 10 points being the cap at which he cant be overtaken? looking at op: 1.Koshi 2.Onegu 3.Vivax 4.Mvp of game 4. 5.Most points 6. 2nd most points 7. 3rd most points 8. 4th most points 9. Winner of the 30 man Liquid Rumble match TBH, I dont see how it can lead to anything conclusive to SL's alignment. Any conclusion will have to stand with the logic that SL is mafia and complained about being not mafia and town for points as his intro. It's Possible, but hard to prove without anything else to back it up. I personally don't understand how the points work because I haven't been keeping up with this train of games lol. On April 06 2017 19:34 Koshi wrote: It's ok. Don't fill pages with this shit. It's weird and plynching sicklucker is a fine thing to do if nothing happens today. Its weird as in what SL did or Ryan's agurement? | ||
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I need a ibuprofen after this calix/btdt page :/ Glad to see you Shape. If you are mafia. Can you leave me alive till 1 day before lylo again? It has been a while I had that privelege. Can you confirm two people? I want to have fun again | ||
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For Calix side, the following makes me think they are more town then scum when I look at this part. On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote: This went dumb real quick. Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol. I personally think that if Calix was scum, they would of not posted this. It would make sense for Scum!Calix to keep on BTDT as to have a excuse to post, and also because of the what apparently happen with a misunderstanding last game. I do acknowledge that Calix could be backing off here as scum due to a lack of footing on BTDT, but I expect that they would keep on for later credit of being active D1 or even for being on BTDT/Ryan later on if either got into negative light. Moreover, BTDT was more in the mood of keeping the fight going on. Which would allow scum!calix to hide in what would prob. develop into a shitfight with BTDT for getting pass d1. However, I personally do not see anything I really like in calix's points. Some I dont really understand the way calix talks (I.E. calix posts kinda feel a bit circlejerking? If that makes sense, prob doesnt). Also, I do feel as there should be more from calix if they are town and though something about BTDT is scummy. I don't get the stance of "waiting to question you" at all either. But doesn't feel like calix is at the stage of mafia discrediting that is usually happening at this stage of the game hmmm. I will say that I would rank calix a bit above null into the town lean range b/c while I do not understand calix overall stance, I think the clear out looks more town then mafia in my eyes. Flipsid3, I think BTDT also displayed similar actions regarding koshi's meta point and not voting calix. His posts dont feel like he is being pressured in my eyes, and seems more of him trying to figure out calixs point while being mad at calix logic. One could state that he is being pretty agressive in a way, but I just chop it up to him as taking a stance at figuring out the game. Don't really have a issue with him right now. More towny then Calix and working his way up to a town lean | ||
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Also Koshi, storm mafia? Dam. was mod confirmed nerf medic, and Scott was setup confirmed dayvig, and I was mafia confirmed Dt? I still am amazed at scott's LYLO plan lol | ||
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I want to eat your posts!!!! | ||
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On April 06 2017 21:54 Koshi wrote: I disagree. btdt is town. You are more likely not. Progress was made. What did you see in the vs. other than not understanding her? | ||
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On April 06 2017 22:47 Calix wrote: What don't you like about the way I talk? lol I felt like I was being clear when I was talking to BTDT about his actions re: Koshi and then his interpretation of my posts. On BTDT, I don't follow how him being aggressive is scummy (as you seem to view it). And some of your points are vague (is the second sentence of BTDT's point -> town-lean? for one) but I think the analysis is good otherwise. Idk, just reading your posts are hard in a way for me rofl. It was kinda iffy here and there for me. I didn't say him being aggressive is scummy. I say someone could say he is, but i see it as him " stance at figuring out the game." I said also i think he seems more townie over all comparative to what i came to you (which was above null/townish) and he is working up to getting a townlean read from me. | ||
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On April 06 2017 23:16 Koshi wrote: The post you use to call Calix town, I disagree, for me that post came too much out of the blue and I do not understand why she wanted to stop the shitfight there. I like btdt more atm because he kept going after Calix called for a truce. I also dont see what Calix has achieved so far. 3 bad conversations without direction. Too much sucking up to rayn. Too agressive in her tone. I think she is mafia. Not really out of place since this was posted eariler: On April 06 2017 20:35 Calix wrote: "I find you GENERALLY scummy" is what I said. Found the problem. You're misinterpreting that as me specifically finding you scummy in this game when I was trying to say that I find your playstyle scummy. I hope that clears things up. I.E. it looks like she figured out her prob with her. She has some agressive tone in her, but only when she has a point she is looking for or questioning. Agree with BTDT point What posts is she sucking up to ryan? She was against the SL thought from ryan. | ||
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On April 06 2017 23:26 Koshi wrote: I like to think town!Calix explains it once and then calls rayn out for the moron he is. Or calls him mafia. You did something in between to stay on his good side. Well not even in between. Something different. I dont really follow how that makes sense as she was one of the people to drive ryan to say people werent listening. I dont remember calix meta On April 06 2017 23:29 Koshi wrote: Would suck if you are mafia with Calix shape Cuz i have a different view on her ? | ||
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Maybe im mafia with you and this was a epic plan that is working? | ||
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On April 06 2017 23:36 Calix wrote: I'm pretty sure my first town-game on this site was me yelling obtusely at everyone for not having me as the most obvious town ever despite doing next-to-no "scum-hunting" until I died P: Did I host that game? All I remember is that 1 OMGUS game which I was Peewee Herman and disappeared for like 2 phases and lynched kush so that mafia would win. | ||
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On April 06 2017 23:41 Koshi wrote: My point has nothing to do with meta. Ok, I still dont see it. If they wanted to suck up, while not agree with ryan? And if the answer to that is because perhaps scum!Calix suspected that ryan would be scumread or sus. for that, why not go more on it? | ||
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Tah dah, countered your 'point' in ten seconds. Try again. I kinda want to scumread you b/c of the cockiness of this so it will go down . | ||
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On April 06 2017 23:48 Calix wrote: That's just my charm and wit  But for real, none of these points are incisive or have merit. What do you think though? You're around while Koshi and I argue but haven't said anything on him afaik. Im trying to figure out his point lol. Hence why I haven't said much on him, plus I want to see where this goes. She knows what rayn is saying is dumb shit that doesnt make sl mafia. We are talking about her sucking up to ryan right? | ||
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On April 06 2017 23:54 Tumblewood wrote: I feel like a broken clock but I've got a nice mindmeld/townread on calix Go on? On April 06 2017 23:57 beentheredonethat wrote: So trying to get this straight: Koshi says, Calix is scum because * Calix has engaged in a bad conversation with me without direction * in a bad conversation with ?? without direction * in a bad conversation with ?? without direction + Show Spoiler [post in question] + On April 06 2017 23:16 Koshi wrote: The post you use to call Calix town, I disagree, for me that post came too much out of the blue and I do not understand why she wanted to stop the shitfight there. I like btdt more atm because he kept going after Calix called for a truce. I also dont see what Calix has achieved so far. 3 bad conversations without direction. Too much sucking up to rayn. Too agressive in her tone. I think she is mafia. I mean yes, I agree with the whole aggressiveness. This is what struck out to me when she called me out on not voting Koshi, it just felt super-aggressive but I can see this coming from ballsy Calix willing to get the game going. Then again the "oh misunderstanding" thing - wouldn't value that too high, it's kinda weird but town does weird things imho. Right now I'm not down for a Calix lynch. I've heard people say that activitiy alone is not alignment indicative but right now I'm not willing to lynch a player that's actually talking. I'm also not willing to let go of my Koshi feelings. Still feels a lot like drive-by-mafia-koshi but I'd need to actually dig through his town games and compare stuff which tbh I'm not down to right now. Maybe later but I don't think so. I like Shape but that's gut feeling. And sucking up to ryan apparently? So do you think im reading more into the misunderstanding/move on posts from her in my thought process on it? You go do that meta thing. I'm fine looking at the game info lol. I like Shape as well. I hope he wont get Nightkilled. On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote: this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen - btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise - (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game) - btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise) - btdt does not push koshi but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now So your where calix is hence the mind meld comment? On April 07 2017 00:09 Calix wrote: My main problem with Koshi right now is how we had to drag out this conversation just to get to these points because he wasn't cooperating. And the points were not even that good in the end. It didn't do anything but fill space with an argument that doesn't add up and is uncharitable. I am still unable to see how he read my posts and concluded "she's trying to keep on rayn's good side". But then again, going about his read in this manner draws a lot of attention to Koshi. And he is attacking me. Unless he saw his team-mates last game and decided that copying their strategy is an A* move, I'm not convinced that scum!Koshi would do that off the bat. Meh, I'll have to reread later in case I'm succumbing to OMGUS with that case. This is actually my thoughts on him as well. The other thing I notice is that he is fine dropping a joke here and there as well, inferring that he isn't stressed at all rn. I want to see where the point goes though and more what koshi does with it. Koshi, my ears are yours. | ||
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On April 06 2017 23:16 sicklucker wrote: im gonna be really shit day 1 tho im in a bad state of mind and not alot of time Oh so that is it said. I just saw his name. Hope everything is ok! subtle buddy tactics | ||
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On April 07 2017 00:45 beentheredonethat wrote: To be honest I don't know what "sucking up to rayn" means. Help me Koshi said that calix is scum bc she is sucking up to ryan. On April 07 2017 00:46 beentheredonethat wrote: Shape: "So do you think im reading more into the misunderstanding/move on posts from her in my thought process on it?" I don't know how much you read into it or how much should be read into it. It's one notable thing and the more the game progresses, the better (or worse, lol) it will be readable I meant from my view on it from my post a while back where that was something that made me lean to her being more town then scum. | ||
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On April 07 2017 00:52 Koshi wrote: Tumble is obvious town. Tumble pls explain your mindmeld pls. yes please (through i think i know it due to some posts.) y is he obv town? | ||
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On April 07 2017 00:53 beentheredonethat wrote: Koshi you're just saying things and you're not explaining maybe its a test????? Perhaps, Koshi is testing us.... | ||
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How would u say that differs from calix post about it? | ||
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How does the post make him scummy (cba to reopen filter from calix On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote: So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia? Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc. On April 06 2017 19:58 Calix wrote: Your opening post stood out to me because I looked at it and I could not tell what you were trying to do/ say since it didn't say anything. A post for the sake of making a post is probably a better way to put it. If you think that, where is your vote...? On April 06 2017 19:58 Calix wrote: Your opening post stood out to me because I looked at it and I could not tell what you were trying to do/ say since it didn't say anything. A post for the sake of making a post is probably a better way to put it. If you think that, where is your vote...? Versus: On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote: this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen - btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise - (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game) - btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise) - btdt does not push koshi but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now If anything, Tumble's post is a TLDR of Calix's train of thought/posts/points that were spread out during that time. Which if he was mafia, could easily be faked if need be. | ||
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On April 07 2017 01:11 Koshi wrote: It is confirmed. I will also have to ignore Shape. Confirmed what? Tumble's Alignment? Yeah no, a TLDR of a another users points that could be true in a mindmeld or him being mafia and copy and pasting is not confirmed. Also I can make you noticed me senpai | ||
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Koshi I want to feel like a newb again. | ||
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On April 07 2017 01:22 Koshi wrote: He is. There is no way mafia does it like that. And you all misjudge Calix her play. She saw something to whine about and did it, to fake activity and not to solve this game. That she was capable to notice bad posts to pressure is good for her. Doesnt matter game is still young. You'll all figure it out. Well lets move on from this then (since this is a stalemate) Outside of Calix world, how do you feel about the rest of the pot. | ||
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Ik u talked about SL/Ryan some before as well.. | ||
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On April 07 2017 01:34 Koshi wrote: If I have a real opinion on those I will let you know. Alrighty. I'm eating lunch and about to head to class so ciao till like 2:30 | ||
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I forgot classes were cancelled today >_> I been here since 8:30 am. At least I worked on my crap while I was waiting. well yeah because calix was making good points and it seemed like they went over everyone's heads I was just pointing out how it didnt make sense in my mind since you both said similar things and koshi read you as town and such. Actually reading Tumblewood's filter: there is NO (absolutely no!) contribution to the game. Just banter. Besides that easily to be made up post. ##vote Tumblewood do something To be devils advocate here, Neither has Darth or Rels. I admit, he is here (or hereish) and should be posting more stuff that is interesting. But also, Its not even halfway through the first day cycle. Hence why I haven't gimped him for it. | ||
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On April 07 2017 02:09 darthfoley wrote: I find this sentence comical. Can anyone who isn't Calix explain wtf the difference is between these two sentences, because to me it just looks like useless hedging that sounds scum motivated. The splitting of semantic hairs is not something I really associate with town!calix. I think btdt is more town from the argument because he seemed more logical/focused/level headed. Koshi's intro reminds me a bit of his standoffish play style he used last game as scum, and I like btdt's questioning of him so far My time is a bit limited but I'm catching up ASAP I read it as Generally I find you scummy" In games I play with you, I find your playstyle to be scummy or I have a history of calling you scum. I dunno how true that is for calix/BTDT. Agree with BTDT point. Koshi is a bit hit or miss rn. I honestly dont like him, and have a hard time following his logic. His points (to me) make no logical sense or lack the details to really fully understand. Plus the confirm tumble thing is still odd in my eyes. Plus the behavior changes. On April 07 2017 02:12 beentheredonethat wrote: well "doing something" at the current state of affairs would mean just to interact with people and drop opinions, right? darth and rels - yeah. We're not in policy range of things yet so... yeah. [...] Calix -- hmm the whole Calix Koshi Me thing and then with tumbleweed reiterating on it and shape commenting on it - it's of course easy to form a town circle of five but I don't dare to do that. oh and still, can someone explain what this "sucking up to rayn" thing means Touchee Koshi said that Calix was sucking up to ryan due to what she said to ryan about SL. On April 07 2017 02:14 darthfoley wrote: Also don't like Shapelog because i feel like he's been referreeing the thread so far and has been rather hesistant to step into actually giving any reads of his own. Everything just reads like a defense of people... countering other peolples point... on other people Um I have given reads out? | ||
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On April 07 2017 02:16 darthfoley wrote: Shapelog is question master without any reads/conclusions/thoughts of his own I can troll if you rather have that Oh boy I do miss it | ||
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I fucking remember my first game as mafia. Wrote like 25% of the game filter through shitposts and other stuff. | ||
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On April 07 2017 02:19 darthfoley wrote: The thing is I still don't see how probing rayn is "sucking up" I can understand the point if Koshi was talking about it from the "faking activity" point he brought up later, but the progression from "she was sucking up" to "she was faking activity" doesn't really make sense to me I just don't understand it as a whole. Tbh, its something every hour or so from him so at this rate. On April 07 2017 02:20 darthfoley wrote: Ooohhh if Calix meant generally as in she finds btdt scummy in many games then I feel like an idiot. I thought she was just talking about this game "generally" That's just what I take it as. I mean, I doubt she would use "generally" in that term you had for like a hour of gameplay. | ||
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On April 07 2017 02:24 darthfoley wrote: Yea it was a newbie game with me iirc. Still salty about that one The game that started the bussing addiction. | ||
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On April 07 2017 03:44 Tumblewood wrote: nah I'm pretty content with having three reads that I think are right with as little as has happened so far and what ever happened to that push on koshi A good chuck has actually happen. Calix vs. BTDT page, Koshi points, Ryan vs. SL, etc. I wouldnt mind koshi vote rn tbh. When i read up, ryan has a town read with him, so I debate with him shortly. So I stand corrected in that Shape did post some "reads" but I find this post to be so confusing for such a relatively simple read explanation. I also think it's odd that Shape says btdt is more towny than Calix but has spent a considerable amount of thread capital defending Calix imo. It just feels off. The time I lost to scum!Shapelog was when he did posts like this that were super convoluted and I lost motivation to read them after 3 sentences. That's kinda how I feel so far with his play. A few town reads, meh scum reads (including a couple "this is weird, this is off" type sentences @ thanks ritoky for the guidance) and posts like this that are kind of semi-serious but maybe not really that seem like ez hedging opportunities later on to say "well that was just a joke" or "that was actually serious!" I'm normally hedging early on as either alignment and then either lose people to scum read as mafia, or I get more and refined as town on people I sus. I've done that since the beginning days and still do lol. Usually also, my alignment gets pretty clear when the games go on IMO. If you know what to look for in my play. I'm pretty sure you seen both shapes. Talked more bout calix because others agreed with BTDT. And fyi, That was a joke with the cocky thing On April 07 2017 04:18 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because he said smart thingd about Calix. I am not sure if it makes her mafia though. Doesnt change the fact its smart and very Koshi'esque. You can be town too. This game is gonna be pretty easy.  Go on, Because I (and others) dont see it. | ||
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On April 07 2017 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hey Rels not many town slots left. What did you roll? ^^ I won't bite you rels! Us frenchies have to stick together! | ||
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How many games have darth played with me. hmmm, let me check. | ||
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3, 2 town and one mafia. Eh kinda what I was and wasnt looking for so I shall let it pass. I was going to see if he know knows my town style (which on paper he should) but those two games (mini and millionare) either one of us left the game pretty early. So he prob doesnt really remember it. So my point in my head doesn't stand. anyways, On April 07 2017 04:10 darthfoley wrote: Also think Calix has a surprisingly long filter for no real reads Really? Let me read through it quickly. | ||
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Not enough to flip my view on her though, especially with the time. | ||
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Tbh his play rn has been characterize by the SL conversation (which I really didn't like either of them in it, but did perhaps figured out what SL was aiming for regarding points). I want to see his logic on these reads to get a good footing on him. More then "koshi parts are smart". So when you do get back ryan (iirc you said u had to go), can you please explain any of the reads in a bit of detail? | ||
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On April 07 2017 05:22 beentheredonethat wrote: Shape, I get the impression that you're not really calling out anyone. You're mediating a lot, darthfoley calls it refereeing. Why is that? Eh, I suppose its just the way I play mafia, and in general, approach life. I normally try to see things from different angles, which leads to me start asking questions, looking at other sides, etc. Tbh, mafia is easy for me to theroycraft and scum hunt as obs because I am not in the game, and don't have to worry about making posts and other stuff to keep up or push conversation through. Its gotten me into trouble as either alignment in the past and prob. my downfall for early game play. Late game, Imo i get more zoned in, for better or worse. I'm also a psych. major (this spring I get my master's finally) as well if that shines more light onto my thinking. | ||
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On April 07 2017 05:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi said it already I cant say it any clearer. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/Y8GeK0G.gif) | ||
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I might actually be understanding now. | ||
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It actually took Darth's comment about the reads for me to figure out the majority of koshi's stance/points. I see what he means with the suck up thing, but i fully agree still with it. The other stuff does make some sense now looking at it. Does actually help clear up koshi's mindset rn for me over calix. | ||
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On April 07 2017 05:45 Koshi wrote: From the first post you made you were so close shape. But you never get any closer. It is disappointing. On April 04 2017 06:03 Shapelog wrote: /in I sit out my ban With the newbie IIRC Indeed I was. For getting closer, It depends on how far I go in. On a serious note, Yeah I was or still am ig in a way. I know now what your point mean, but I got to sit and reflect on them for a bit. | ||
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On April 07 2017 05:59 Koshi wrote: Oh goodie. I'll explain the sucking up better. Btw I am on phone so that's why I am even moreincomprehensible as normal. rayn is an vast entity as town. You prefer to not annoy him. But if he says dumb shit, you can get a 1up on him by engaging him in a conversation you cant lose as mafia. But I think that a town Calix, brave as she is, would get past his dumb shit, and solve the game, force rayn to get past his dumb shit if needed, or poke the bear and call him mafia. But she didnt. So that is why I said she was sucking up to him. Ah that is why. See if you explained this about ryan earlier I might of been able to piece it together lol. I'm going to reread that section. Question tho, have they played together tho? While I know normally is good to get a one up in general (and she would too), this does have a part with it being ryan we are talking about. | ||
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Kinda lied about seeing your point. I saw some of what you meant, but fully didnt understand it till after the last few posts, which I predicted would happen. I said i knew it more than I did because it would appeal to your senses and you will try to help me see more of the picture. Some might say that is manipulating you. I say that is using my education to benefit society. | ||
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On April 07 2017 06:20 Koshi wrote: Yes. They are familiar. Read ot and imagine if there is a banana on the table and calix and rayn ars standing before it and rayns says "Well I dont know what that is but maybe it is an apple" And calix is like: But it is yellow, why is it an apple? But it is long, an apple is not long.. But it isnt something round, apples are normally round. I cant now think about the conversation seriously now because im laughing bc im picturing that instead with the posts. How is any of this alignment-indicative? ELI5. It is because it doesn't make any fucking sense. But how does that make it mafia?? Because it doesn't make any fucking sense. | ||
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On April 07 2017 06:30 Koshi wrote: Oh. Can some1 not shape explain to me how shape went from "I can vote Koshi rn" to this lame "I am sry Koshi for manupulating you" buddying attempt? Its was actually a brag post but w/e | ||
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On April 07 2017 14:22 Tumblewood wrote: hi I checked your filter and 100% of your stuff since sl entered is about sl's entrance post. so I guess my question is what do you hope to get out of pressing on that one post This post is exaggerated. Yes, a majority of what ryan is talking about was about SL. But no where near the 100% tumble made it out to be. Felt as if tumble was trying to shade ryan a bit here. Give me a few to catch up | ||
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I read it and went to BTDT's filter to check something out + Show Spoiler [wasnt vaild since I missed a post he m…] + From BTDT case on tumble: This is at least my perception of what Tumble is doing so far. My observations. I can see the initial banter coming from town or from at least a certain level of "I don't care how I look". From BTDT earlier: On April 07 2017 01:58 beentheredonethat wrote: Actually reading Tumblewood's filter: there is NO (absolutely no!) contribution to the game. Just banter. Besides that easily to be made up post. ##vote Tumblewood do something So banter back then wasnt ok but is now seen as something that can come from a townie? Also reading back he actually took my point about mafia being able to throw together that post lol. well "doing something" at the current state of affairs would mean just to interact with people and drop opinions, right? darth and rels - yeah. We're not in policy range of things yet so... yeah. Not sure how to proceed from here on. I am not townreading Koshi yet it's not the same as the last game we played, like there it was super obvious to me that he was scum. And I was right. Might've been just luck but it really felt like scum!Koshi. This time around, I'm not sure. I'd just wish he'd put more effort into explaining stuff. Calix -- hmm the whole Calix Koshi Me thing and then with tumbleweed reiterating on it and shape commenting on it - it's of course easy to form a town circle of five but I don't dare to do that. oh and still, can someone explain what this "sucking up to rayn" thing means I dont understand the town circle comment looking back since he had tumble and calix in or around the scummy range a few posts back. Also . It might very well be that Tumble simply followed thread sentiment, did some drive by posting, and then realized "ohshit, Calix ain't hard scumreading btdt". So he backed off of judging the Calix/btdt interaction, as everyone else did. If he followed thread sentiment, which implies he read the thread, wouldn't he already know calix wasnt scum reading him on that level based off of what. So I dont understand this logic from it. Carrying on. | ||
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The whole rayn vs. SL thing hasnt sparked anything in my eyes. Maybe I give it one more read over sitting down, but nothing felt strong either way for either of them. Rayn I can eventuate through based on the other things he has posted, which so far I haven't had a prob. with and find townie. He also doesnt seem to care what he looks like while arguing with SL to a lesser exist as well. SL is a mixed boat for me rn, as I dont feel I lean either way (other then what some call annoying, I call SL's Charm) on him even with the posts regarded. | ||
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On April 08 2017 01:51 beentheredonethat wrote: It's kinda fun though how pretty much everybody says "btdt is scum" yet everybody also goes like "btdt is bad town". At this point, there must be some scummers on me who're just following thread sentiment. I mean even in my posts on Tumble, people do not read them to see what I have to say on Tumble. Instead, they read them to find reasons to scumread me, see df's post for reference. Then again, there are no votes on me as of now, instead thread sentiment is going after calix. :/ still in for Tumble. tbh, I actually I agree with you on certain parts with tumble. I do think he is servely lacking content and honestly, he should have something of some form of original thought in his filter. That I agree with you on. I also think the AFK vote is damm sus. as well at this point as well. That I see common ground on. There is no reason he shouldn't have any at this point. This wasn't like earlier, where it was like 1.5/8ths of the way through the day phase. But I do have issues with the cases in certain parts when I read it. Hence why I pointed them out. Either for you or others to reflect on those and either defend or attack those points. Also if I felt you were def. scum I would of voted you as placeholder rn. You might of just inspired a thought tho so hold on. | ||
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If your town, ik how it feels. Sometimes you get ML over a miscommunication or a thought being taken out of context. Part of the game. All you can do sometimes and post shit and hope people are listening post flip. Or keep making points and get ethos back. If your mafia, Please stop frailing around and clogging the thread. | ||
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On April 08 2017 02:03 beentheredonethat wrote: I agree with the last bit - that's why I put a "could be" in front of it. It's hard to back cases up properly without speculating, after all it's a guessing game. The town circle post came off the idea that if 5 out of 11 people are actively discussing without anyone hiding, it would be a good point to start a town circle. It's a nice idea but I didn't dare to form a town circle for obvious reasons, some of them being scumreads/leans. I do actually have a question I want you to pitch in regarding tumble and thread sentiment. How does this post feel to you regarding thread sentiment? nah I'm pretty content with having three reads that I think are right with as little as has happened so far and what ever happened to that push on koshi Tbh, when you say town circle, everyone you mention automatically goes green for your reads in my eyes. | ||
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On April 08 2017 02:10 Koshi wrote: 1 hour. and then I will be gone for 96 hours. I am not kidding about that one btw. Is that over like one whole phase? I.E. wont you get warned/replaced for inactivity/not voting? On April 08 2017 02:11 darthfoley wrote: I really don't understand your line of thinking. Stop being so woe is me dude. You aren't even the top vote getter ATM yet oh make it sound like you have 7 votes for you. I do think the wagons need to be more solidified though cuz 2-1-1-1-1 is fuckey I agree, usually means mafia isn't in threat of being lynched. | ||
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Calix (2) - Koshi, darthfoley Tumblewood (1) - beentheredonethat Rels (1) - Tumblewood Sicklucker (1) - raynpelikoneet beentheredonethat (1) - sicklucker Not Voting (3) - Calix, Rels, Shapelog Actually might also be due to the fact 3 players havent voted as well | ||
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On April 08 2017 02:20 Koshi wrote: hahaha. Sorry no. Shape ofcourse. Lynch Shape. I am 100% on that second read. First Calix Second Shape. You never have a good track record with that statement. | ||
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On April 08 2017 02:21 beentheredonethat wrote: That bolded bit is related to my initial push on Koshi, right? If anything, I'd say it's tackling my initial comment on something being pushworthy, so subtly calling me out. No that is tumble's post | ||
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1.Tumblewood 2.Calix 3.Rels 4.Shapelog 5.sicklucker 6.beentheredonethat 7.raynpelikoneet 8.Koshi 9.darthfoley Where I am at kinda. Honestly feel like I am missing something tbh | ||
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On April 08 2017 02:25 beentheredonethat wrote: I know and in this post, tumble says something in relation to my initial push on Koshi. God im daft. I thought that was towards everyone talking about koshi not making sense at the time bc I remembered responding to it. Smh. | ||
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On April 07 2017 14:22 Tumblewood wrote: hi I checked your filter and 100% of your stuff since sl entered is about sl's entrance post. so I guess my question is what do you hope to get out of pressing on that one post And again, this statement is false at the time of this post. Because litterly a few moments before, on the same page: On April 07 2017 14:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: I don't think she is trying to find mafia. She enters into arguments that can never achieve anything and she isn't even trying to achieve anything in those arguments except for discrediting the player on the other side of the argument. | ||
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Rels is a odd ball that hasnt posted anything. Calix maybe but that has to have certain factors involve with it. Also some weird team behavior. SL i could see. BTDT: Bus for life -> keep busing -> even more busing -> OMG what a bus -> reverse bus kill. Don't recall either fond of busing that much. Rayn maybe. Koshi's early posts with tumble being confirmed town would be very odd. Darth maybe. | ||
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On April 08 2017 02:43 darthfoley wrote: Koshi why is Tumble lock town again? Or is he not lock anymore Ik he considered him on a scum team but ryan made a point to him that tumble wouldnt be mafia i think due ot meta. | ||
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Personally I rather have tumblewood and do think some players are giving him the pass. Rereading time. | ||
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On April 08 2017 03:04 beentheredonethat wrote: Switching to Calix feels like the easy choice though. Mainly because she isn't around I'm not a big fan. Policy lynch on Rels doesn't feel good, either. Or, we could consolidate on Tumblewood. #Vote: Tumblewood Like I said I am fine with either or. I just prefer tumblewood over Calix at this point. Just looking at his read on you: On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote: this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen - btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise - (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game) - btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise) - btdt does not push koshi but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now On April 07 2017 03:07 Tumblewood wrote: how bout you do something first and I do something about that something (I think you are bad town who thinks contributions mean anything. thankfully you are transparent. I think.) On April 07 2017 03:44 Tumblewood wrote: nah I'm pretty content with having three reads that I think are right with as little as has happened so far and what ever happened to that push on koshi On April 07 2017 04:03 Tumblewood wrote: duh when I called you bad town. you are so righteous On April 07 2017 14:30 Tumblewood wrote: also my spidey senses are going off on this. *pending further unspecified action* On April 07 2017 23:25 Tumblewood wrote: anyway I saw this question from 10 pages ago if you mean btdt, it's because he is super self-righteous even when he is saying something bad and wrong. especially from newer scum I would expect more careful consideration I am waiting to see what he does next though because he is in limbo right now On April 07 2017 23:26 Tumblewood wrote: or more like did next... He keeps stating your bad town, but keeps hedging/options open on you. I think the most damming of it all is the one with the explanation of how righteous you are means a newer scum wouldnt fit you. But then says you are in limbo, after calling you bad town. | ||
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On April 08 2017 03:13 darthfoley wrote: Especially with the shitty deadline for EU time Deadline for me is 9:30 pm so it works well by the time I have to start a new job next week. | ||
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On April 08 2017 03:29 darthfoley wrote: Well yea it works for me but I think there's only like 3 NA players Me, you, Tumblewood (West), BTDT (?), and SL (Canada) | ||
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On April 07 2017 06:01 darthfoley wrote: Pretty unimpressed with sicklucker but iirc I always find him scummy. His play so far has only really been trolling rayn, and in a 9 person game I would quite appreciate not having to think about PL options What do you think of his BTDT read/Read List? On April 07 2017 17:10 sicklucker wrote: Sicklucker Tumbleweed calix koshi Darthfoley Rayn shapelog beentheredonethat rels Or just in general? | ||
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On April 08 2017 04:01 Tumblewood wrote: Shapelog bugs me. he's kinda bad and wordy/confusing but that's kinda normal for him, but usually when he does that he gets lynched and I don't think that's happening here he still could be town but I don't really wanna lynch anyone who is not him or rels So you want to lynch me because others are scum reading me but are not lynching me, which is out of my control? Because the rest you hedge on. | ||
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On April 08 2017 04:08 Tumblewood wrote: yeah, basically. in theory scum could frame you and I would be none the wiser. but afaik that has never happened ever so idc Scum actually have accidentally framed me before. Also ok...you do that. You go ahead and lynch me bc of something that has nothing to do with me and has to do with others actions on me. On April 08 2017 04:10 Tumblewood wrote: it sounds bad but it is the only way I have had success reading shape How many times have you lynched me when I was scum? Also, feel like this is you rn: ![[image loading]](http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/8b/8b19c65914fa9ed430f718adb0d6579c6f09da9883f7c4b8ca7d8859c98e03e4.jpg) | ||
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What are your other reads other than now BTDT? How have they progressed? | ||
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On April 08 2017 04:18 Tumblewood wrote: shiiiiiit all my vote logic falls apart unless we know what alignment rels is I could believe 6/7 people posting are town tomorrow isnt the point of voting logic figuring out people's alignment based off the votes? Regardless if rels votes or not or knowing his alignment, Why cant you do vote logic? | ||
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On April 08 2017 04:07 beentheredonethat wrote: What's really bad though is that Tumblewood says that Shapelog bugs him. That's exactly how I would express my current stance on him, he's a bit too nice to be real, isn't he. Koshi let go of pressuring me, too. Ironically enough that bothers me, too. He's also not really convincing anyone of doing a thing. And the 96 hours absence really bothers me; not a big fan. If I'd be a host, I'd pretty much try to get a replacement or modkill since my voting law says "mandatory to vote". I don't know how Koshi will not be dead after let's say 48+24 hours. Koshi why did you sign up if you knew you'd be gone for so long? Already asked him but I think he is with his lover This is me btw trying to figure out wtf just happen with tumble: ![[image loading]](http://www.fukarf.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/oh_wrestling_youre_so_funny_24.gif) | ||
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On April 08 2017 04:51 Tumblewood wrote: I think you can usually figure out whether the lynch is on town or scum in the hour before, based on wagon logic if there is only one active scum that goes down the drain I disagree strongly, Yes you typically can guess one hour before flip in some cases, but in this one. We only have 2 mafia. So if Rels is mafia, there is still one mafia who is either afk OR actively misleading town. If you assume that Rels is mafia, and suspect one person is actively misleading town, then you still have one person actively misleading town. The fact that Rel's is afk makes no difference to the fact that that person is still messing up town. Therefore, you can still do voting logic I.E. looking at when someone vote. Who took what wagon etc. Saying you cant find the other person (or I guess in your case, make more points against me) is far from reality. | ||
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On April 08 2017 05:06 Tumblewood wrote: if rels is mafia then the mafia have as much thread pull as one townie. they cannot really decide wagons. if there are two active mafia, they can work together to make sure the lynch is neither of them, and unless they fold hard (unlikely given the quality of players) that will probably be true at deadline. unfortunately I can't make a read based on that if there is a 25% chance it's not true Too each their own i suppose. I personally consider other factors as the mafia being town read and having townies on their side in the thread and the abilty to lead a sole counter wagon during EoD due to cred or just through a townies mistake, etc. And even with one person, a idea can spread and infect other townies given a few hours of set up. Do you have any reads other than the ones you stated already? | ||
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On April 08 2017 05:09 Tumblewood wrote: the point is not to find the other person. (not before the flip, anyway.) the point is I feel super badass whenever I use wagon logic to call a lynch, and theoretically we could even switch off town to scum Are we just talking about wagon logic or Voting logic? Bc when you say voting logic my mind goes to VCA and that jazz? Also fighting over glory? | ||
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On April 08 2017 05:15 Tumblewood wrote: wagon logic. like, "are the people one this wagon good," and, "are they town," and, "how strongly do they believe in it" (and the glory thing is why I like doing it. also because votes are less nebulous than tone) ok then. You said voting logic originally. On April 08 2017 05:18 Tumblewood wrote: have no qualms about lynching rels (shape) have some qualms about lynching sl koshi (calix) not lynching today df rayn btdt Are the bold town leans or? and: Can you explain the reason why you are voting Rels other then what I assume is afk reasons? | ||
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On April 08 2017 05:23 Rels wrote: yo finally free! Gotta read those pages now Ça t'a pris suffisamment longtemps. Donnez-moi toutes ces lectures >:D | ||
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On April 08 2017 05:26 Tumblewood wrote: oh hey it's rels (what would I possibly be voting him for other than afkness?) Well i didnt know if you had a reason for voting him before the halfway point (or right before it) or what not. Bc you really were ok with auto booting him then before time had pass to start worrying imo. | ||
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On April 08 2017 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Seema like i have to fo something since i cant understand whats going on in this game. We are lynching Calix. Do not trust Shapelog on anything because Shapelog is probably mafia. He is interested in talking about anything that is not Calix.See how he just dodges talking properly about Calix in every single occasion. Tumblewood is town and we are not lynching him. Neither are we lynching btdt. You two, you really cant see whats going on here? ##unvote ##vote Calix How have I been dodging her? Doesnt that go against the sediment that I been defending her as well? | ||
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On April 08 2017 02:29 Shapelog wrote: Where I am at kinda. Honestly feel like I am missing something tbh didnt feel like explaining at the moment tbh. Can now if needed. Going into one of my hypo fits >_> | ||
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On April 08 2017 05:49 beentheredonethat wrote: hahaha imagine a Rels/Koshi scum team. town would be so playing itself No, Rels/Darth or Darth/koshi would be us playing ourselfs | ||
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On April 08 2017 06:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: You dont wanna touch the case on her even with a long stick. Instead youre more interested in convincing tumblewood of tumblewood being mafia apparently... ? I've talked to both you and koshi about it. And I said recently that with those examples koshi talked about i understand it and am open to her being lynched. I can keep reciting summary if need be, or can do something else rn. And yes im talking more about tumblewood and to him. He actually has posted (so i have more to talk about with him) since I got off yesterday and is here now. Also no, I am talking to him bc I suspect him. Much like you did with SL. | ||
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On April 08 2017 06:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: And no Shapelog. You didnt. Like really. Although i lol'd at scum framing you. Youre welcome. Oh well, if I have to 1:1 with scum!calix I will lol. Hopefully wont come down to it. God I was just a frailing boy in that game. I still remember the depressing case I made against you. | ||
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On April 08 2017 06:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: I personally think that's the greatest frame ever. Totally intended and maybe 30% chance of working. The funnest thing about it was that I keep saying I was intentionally framed as a defense for the entire time, playing into the accidental frame by looking even more guilty. | ||
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On April 08 2017 06:23 Rels wrote: Why are you thinking about Tumble's partners ? This obv don't make you advance anywhere since lots of people can be scum with him. And you're not hard scumreading him. That post makes no sense if you're not hard scumreading Tumble and looking to see if it makes sense with someone else being scum I guess the best way to explain it is that is me thinking about possibilities. Its not really suppose to move the read forward in the sense of finding more evidence (that is why i later talk about him and go thru filter(s)) just keep me engaged and motivated. My last few games (as either alignment) ended prematurely for me either due to RL bullshit and other stuff. And not even going to lie, I just got bored and unmotivated in the last one with the OMGUS game I was in as well (was town). So just consider possibilities in posts like that keeps me somewhat from passing out. On April 08 2017 06:27 Rels wrote: Shape / Tumble are you not supposed to have a soul read on each other ? I havent played mafia since D1 of the OMGUS game and hell if i know when I played with tumble last. IIRC, none of those soul reads were good on either side anyways. | ||
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On April 08 2017 06:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: It was not accidental. I just hoped it would work because there was like three things i had no control over tjat should happen and Superbia abandoned our game olan. Wait? So I was actually framed????? I WAS RIGHT ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN YOU BEING SCUM THAT GAME!!!! | ||
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On April 08 2017 07:07 sicklucker wrote: I dont really particularity care if calix dies. my town read is not that strong. however theres this shapelog vs tumbleweed thing brewing between the two of them and tumbleweeds obv town here and I want to do everything to protect him honestly and that involves flipping sl as mafia first The Bromance is strong with this one. Tbh, other then a few things, a lot of the reason I see why people view me as mafia is due involvement regarding calix. Not all of it I will admit, but a majority of it. Therefore, if you think I am scum and unless you have your read on regarding my own play. You should be focused on voting calix to figure out if my posts had motive behind them if you had that thought process or your read is some what about that. If not, then disregard this. If you really want to protect him, then get me to see he is town. Even if you view me as mafia, If you get me to call him town I cant double back on it unless I make a case or shit like that. | ||
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On April 08 2017 09:36 Tumblewood wrote: no reason for me to still be voting rels. shapelog vs calix is a tossup imo, given that calix can't be bothered to show up as soon as she's scumread. but I'll stick back on shape for now because I doubt town!shape clears himself later more likely than town!calix Question On April 08 2017 07:00 Tumblewood wrote: (re: part 1) I am? I haven't told anyone what my current method of reading you is (re: part 2) that is not quite true. plus a lot of the time when you afk you give the impression that you have no time to play, not that you are unmotivated On paper, it looks like you saw something that doesnt add up. Or at least, isnt as you stated true about him in your mind. So what lead to now rels off the radar? | ||
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Also On April 08 2017 10:30 iamperfection wrote: Night 1 Calix gave it her all but was rewarded with a kick to the face ![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/K8PNnH6cAoa3u/giphy.gif) Calix the Mafia goon has been lynched You have 24 hours make sure to send all actions to me and the co hosts Um heads up to hosts: On April 08 2017 07:38 Hapahauli wrote: Vote-or-die: Calix (4) - Koshi, darthfoley, raynpelikoneet, Rels Tumblewood (2) - beentheredonethat, Shapelog Rels (1) - Tumblewood Shapelog (1) - sicklucker Not Voting (1) - Calix Whoever has the most votes at the end of the day (plurality) will be lynched. Only votes in the voting thread will count. The day will end in at 01:30 GMT (+00:00). VC have not been acounting for the timechange. | ||
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Like i said before, there were factors involve with tumble being partners with calix. The biggest being tumble's posts regarding calix BTDT posts: On April 06 2017 23:54 Tumblewood wrote: I feel like a broken clock but I've got a nice mindmeld/townread on calix On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote: this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen - btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise - (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game) - btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise) - btdt does not push koshi but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now On April 07 2017 01:44 Tumblewood wrote: idk where you're getting obv town already but as for the mindmeld: reading calix attack btdt was like watching my own thoughts as I read his posts. our thought processes just lined up really well I feel like I'm just explaining what a mindmeld is but there's not much more to say On April 07 2017 01:48 Tumblewood wrote: well yeah because calix was making good points and it seemed like they went over everyone's heads Even tho I hate his play up to this point, I cant see any real reason for mafia to post these posts. If it was tumble/calix, I dont see how it would advance mafia agenda for scum!tumble to come in later and restate something the thread has already talked unfairly for them and calix herself have moved on. Plus, Koshi was already starting to suspect calix over it so it makes even less sense. The only incentive I see for that would be if Tumble was trying to get it to where he didnt have to attack his partner. But even then I doubt he would do that. From what I remember, he wouldn't feel comfortable doing that automatically that quickly like that. He would be more hesitant. So, even tho I hate his play, I cant see him being a team with Calix logically now. I just dont see Scum!Tumble making those posts on calix's posts in that case. So I got 72 hours (unless mafia is really Really really really really really dumb and shoots me. Which I would laugh) till my probable mislynch to find the missing scummer. So this is what it feels like to actually feel motivated to play town again. | ||
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On April 08 2017 14:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why was your vote where it was? All of you four. Even tho i was fine either either or, I did prefer tumble. I was debating switching to the calix wagon a hour "before" the day was over to help stop any shenanigans from happening (since there was obv debate over tumble, and I wanted one of them to be lynched) but then she flipped scum a hour before the VC stated so. | ||
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On April 08 2017 23:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: But i don't like the post i quoted. Meh idk which is stronger? Like the post has nothing to do with who is mafia and who is not, it's a cheap way to decide where to place your vote without and actual reasoning. Depends on how much you think scum!tumble would be willing to agree to posting those posts with calix with. Like i said in the post after the flip, I hate his posts so far but I dont see scum!tumble doing what he did. Perhaps I am reading into the associating of it too much, but I just dont see it after the flip confirming calix as scum. I would think he would be less incline to post what he did or not as much as what he did. Maybe the first one or what not, but due to the timing and thread views on calix, it just doesn't make sense. | ||
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Suddenly Calix is mafia?!?!? That's not what he said before and Calix certainly didn't make any posts to change his mind. So where did the change of mind come from? I know one answer... "I don't wanna look bad if Calix flips but i don't really want her to flip". And this gem: If the bold is true, then tumble read doesnt make sense in the long run. Anyways, After I woke up the next moring and read over those pages and thought about it more (including your case) i liked the reasoning more and more and I felt she was scummy. First of all this is a bad case. Second of all this case is nowhere near as good as the case on Calix. Basically Shapelog's case here is "Tumblewood cannot make a decision on btdt's alignment". That makes Tumblewood mafia? Did you read the posts leading up to that or? On April 08 2017 01:59 Shapelog wrote: tbh, I actually I agree with you on certain parts with tumble. I do think he is servely lacking content and honestly, he should have something of some form of original thought in his filter. That I agree with you on. I also think the AFK vote is damm sus. as well at this point as well. That I see common ground on. There is no reason he shouldn't have any at this point. This wasn't like earlier, where it was like 1.5/8ths of the way through the day phase. But I do have issues with the cases in certain parts when I read it. Hence why I pointed them out. Either for you or others to reflect on those and either defend or attack those points. Also if I felt you were def. scum I would of voted you as placeholder rn. You might of just inspired a thought tho so hold on. On April 08 2017 02:39 Shapelog wrote: And again, this statement is false at the time of this post. Because litterly a few moments before, on the same page: On April 09 2017 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote: You even literally fucking said at some point Calix is probably the only person who could be mafia with Tumblewood..... Um please quote? Because I posted: On April 08 2017 02:45 Shapelog wrote: But honestly tho, I dont know who else would be mafia with tumble. Looking at it roughly: Rels is a odd ball that hasnt posted anything. Calix maybe but that has to have certain factors involve with it. Also some weird team behavior. SL i could see. BTDT: Bus for life -> keep busing -> even more busing -> OMG what a bus -> reverse bus kill. Don't recall either fond of busing that much. Rayn maybe. Koshi's early posts with tumble being confirmed town would be very odd. Darth maybe. | ||
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On April 09 2017 00:12 raynpelikoneet wrote: Your day 1 case on Tumblewood has nothing to do with anything related to Calix' alignment so where did that case go? It doesn't make him mafia anymore? How much did you actually believe in your case on D1 if you're so eager to drop it just because someone else flipped something? Because even tho I hate his posting, still dont like half of what he said, and honestly would love to lynch him. It doesn't make sense to me (or others for that fact) for him to be mafia based off what he said. Discipline play is better then emotional play, and is something im trying to follow more. My read was conflicted because of what I thought, and I sided with what I believe was stronger which was the not being partners with calix. | ||
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On April 09 2017 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: It still doesn't change the fact you completely changed your read you were more sure of than your read on Calix, enough to vote for Tumblewood instead of Calix despite there being an actual good case on her. And now you don't even think your case on Tumblewood is any good anymore based on something that has been in the thread to evaluate all the time. So yeah, excuse me but i am very suspicious of the strength of your read in the first place on D1. Weren't you the one who told me a time ago not to pre-associate and other stuff? Yes, I suppose I could if i wanted to i could came to that conclusion earlier on tumble...then come right back if calix flipped town. On April 09 2017 00:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Or are you saying you want to lynch people based on how they play and if you like it or not instead of them being mafia? How is voting a afk, lack of originally thought, having BTDT in the range of being able to throw shade on and go after if need be, and overexg. statements to throw shade on you not mafia behaviors? Anyways, spending too much time. Trying to figureout Rels rn so I really don't care if you fully commit to lynching me rn. | ||
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I dont like the fact he came in and voted calix without really and explanation other then him being where ryan was. I felt honestly he was more focused on me and tumble each (his other scumreads) then what was actually going on with calix. I know there was a small conversation a page back on how scum!rels might voted in regards of calix being scum. I personally think scum!rels would vote calix there instead of saving her because she was MIA. Why stick out and not vote her when it could cause sus. to come on her. Another thing is the SL read. I first i actually thought this put to ease my sus. as scum!rels needs to keep the scum pool more open since he needs 3 ML's and what better to do that through ryan. Ryan is after-all seen as town my the majority of people, and could be talked into it if needed. But he didnt, which i first thought was town. But then I reread it and saw something: On April 08 2017 06:38 Rels wrote: rayn. About SL. He feels town. He focused on himself and he's not hiding it, and he's focused on his read on you because of it. It doesn't add anything for him as scum. It's not good looking for him. It wastes time that is all. But he's doing it anyway. I think he's town for that. Like his posts when he come back to the thread after leaving is focused on that: and he knows he cannot out arguee you. I think I remember him saying you're the player he fears the most, he said that like one year ago. Doesn'et make sense to try to ou targuee you. Especially since he's not lynched. And he is not trying to change the lynch either. He's mainly talking about your read on him. This argument is fine for sl being town but do note what i bolded. Rel's reasoning for tr SL is due to his focus on himself and such. Then this happens a few posts later: On April 08 2017 07:09 sicklucker wrote: shapelog is just the best lynch here by far. he can totally be with calix hell it even makes alot of sense. but if you guys lynch calix first you might do something stupid like lynch tumbleweed so Saltshaker starts trying to move the lynch (something im going to check out eventually) onto me and off of calix. Now, imo this should cause his read to progress or at least be reconsidered as this is something that does go against this reasoning for why SL is town. however, in response to ryans question about sl in general: His posts during the night haven't changed my mind. I think he's town based on his lack of mindset. But he'"s not lock town. This bothers me because ryan did mention his stance towards the lynching, which I would expect rels to react to with his read. I don't see how that doesn't cause anything to go off in rel's mind if he believes the reasons to tr sl off based off that post. Which suggests he isnt really reading and figure out things. Maybe the SL thing isn't strong but i dont like how he came in her and just voted calix, picked around with me and tumble, and peace. I feel like town!rels would post or mention more then just being really condense down and focused on certain people while not even mentioning others. Thoughts? | ||
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On April 09 2017 01:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: Voting an afk means nothing when we are talking about Tumblewood. He has had original thoughts. "Throw shade on" is just another way of saying "doesn't have a conclusion on players alignment. In a same way i could say you "threw shade" on Tumblewood D1.... Actually considering your read on him now you did that way more than he did, since you never even commited to a vote before Calix was ACTUALLY starting to look like she's getting lynched and after the vote you started convincing Tumblewood that he is mafia (which is literally super dumb in the first place). So lieing about your filter and then quoting a post from BTDT saying "this might be sus." and doing nothing with it isn't throwing shade? What original thoughts did he have before that case? I still dont understand the convinving tumble he is mafia statement. So there is that. I wasn't talking about pre-association. I was talking about the fact that your read changes based on stuff that should not affect the read at all because based on your case on Tumble, nothing Calix did means anything regarding Tumble's alignment. Nothing Tumble has done since should change your opinion on him (because he hasn't posted anything since the flip). Basically you are evaluating same evidence and coming to a completely different conclusion before. That's not unlikely to come from twon, the unlikeliness comes from the fact you have a 8 page filter, you were active almost all the time, yet you couldn't come to this conclusion earlier and indirectly defended Calix who flipped mafia by calling Tumblewood scum and making a case on him. I don't really understand how this very simple thing is so hard for you to see and why you try to twist it around. The evidence that causes the change of read came from what tumble did to interact with the now flipped scum calix. And your right, nothing he has down should change my opinion on him, which isnt what did change it. And yes I realize what you mean about the conclusion thing. And maybe i could of. But at the time I felt both could be mafia, but i also stated that they would have weird team behavior and factors had to be consider if they are scum team. Those factors being the posts from tumble that he posted about calix and her points. After calix flipped scum, I consider it since now i know for sure. Hence the change on tumble. And that is what happen rofl. | ||
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On April 09 2017 07:51 sicklucker wrote: shapelog just posted 15 paragraphs after its pretty obvious hes going to get lynched no matter what he does today and if he saves himself hes the next lynch anyway? I dont know maybe im just lazy but if im scum in his spot I afk or concede -_- I went 5 days before solo. Also I wouldnt give up as in "well this is hopeless" as either alignment rn. Only way I would concede as mafia is if it was like a couple hours before lynch and everyone is stacked on me. Hasn't said anything about who he thinks is mafia tbh, just that he's town reading me, koshi, rayn and sl. No idea where his head is at right now He stated he found me and tumble sus. yesterday | ||
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On April 09 2017 08:23 darthfoley wrote: i have a 15-20 pager due on monday at 10am and i want to kill myself What topic? Also (I learned how to due to my battle with my written disgraphia) to improve the rate you write, try writing more and more in shorter times. This will lead to you learning how to masterfully get all the points across and your paragraphs being fully developed. A lot of time when I read other people papers, they are very bland and usually lacking details (even on a college level) needed or have very odd organization/layout. In other news, I didnt realize SL had a 7 page filter lol. | ||
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On April 07 2017 19:44 sicklucker wrote: The whole sicklucker Rayn argument is getting out of hand, all the while everyone else gets away with doing nothing, specifically speaking of Tumblewood. THEN STARTS A FUCKING ARGUMENT FOR NO REASON like i was 5 seconds away from sending a certain someone something but now I just want to lynch him for probably being mafia I'm not being daft in reading that and it saying that he stated tumble wasnt doing anything? | ||
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On April 09 2017 08:37 darthfoley wrote: + Show Spoiler + I got to choose. But i'm writing on Americans' paradoxical public opinion relationship with science, specifically regarding acceptance of Darwinian evolution between political parties and how the reception of evolution in the US is counter intuitive once you realize that GOP ideology aligns quite well with Darwinian thought. Certainly an intersesting topic, but just a bitch to write. It's for my environmental history class, but i'm a government major so i had to pull it back into politics somehow. Ah that's is interesting. Idk where your at, but I be more than happy to help with it. If you want I can give you my email (if its ok with hosts obv, should be but I can understand if they dont want us to talk period outside the game in private means) and help edit and stuff. Anyways, hope it goes well. I stop my digress from the game lol. | ||
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On April 09 2017 08:36 Shapelog wrote: I'm not being daft in reading that and it saying that he stated tumble wasnt doing anything? | ||
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On April 09 2017 09:19 raynpelikoneet wrote: SHa9elog -> sicklucker Ggnore. Who the hell is SHa9elog? At least spell my name right if your going to lynch me. | ||
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Sweetie it's HIJOLE. On April 09 2017 09:29 sicklucker wrote: cant wait till rayn dies But who will call me bad and actually read 90% of my posts? Pff you? | ||
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On April 09 2017 09:31 sicklucker wrote: i didnt say that line. i quoted it from btm or someone. The point of that post was he was saying mine and ryans argument was getting out of hand. then without provokation he attacked me really hard for what I feel was no reason. So first he says lets not fight. then he starts a fight which i kind of ignored thankfully Ahhhhhh I was about to say bc that didnt make sense with your read on tumble if that was the case. | ||
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I need to get lynched (lol, never thought I be saying that as town) at this point bc I highly doubt anyone will fully reconsider reads till the question mark over my head is cleared up. Ryan is town (and prob was healed so lock in most cases) Koshi is town 99% of the time here. So either BTDT/Rels is left with the off chance its darth which i find highly unlikely. Nice. Makes my job easier lol. | ||
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On April 09 2017 10:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##vote shpelog Again, At least spell my name right if your going to lynch me. But good job, you got rid of the number lol. | ||
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#Vote: Shapelog ^Do it. Burn him. Make his 5 sided ass deformed. I Filter in the morning and figure out which one Is prob the last scum tomorrow. | ||
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On April 09 2017 10:32 darthfoley wrote: Let's gooooo Also u going to answer me or not? | ||
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On April 09 2017 09:16 Shapelog wrote: Also what do you think about the SL part of the Rels post? That i made. On April 09 2017 18:07 beentheredonethat wrote: Hi. voting shape seems to be the obvious thing. Worth a try but I am paranoid over Shape being town. There are some things in his filter that feel a lot like it and people might be tunneled. We're down to one scum, so we have 7 town votes and 1 scum votes. That means that the scum vote isn't that relevant anymore. I think Tumble might get too easy town credit. Yes I know that I give him town credit for the Calix/Tumble is unlikely stuff but it's not a full clear. Same goes for Rels, someone said that it would've been a big risk for scum!Rels to make the wagon 3-3 with a AFK Calix. but then again, a Rels/Calix scumteam feels weird given the level of afk'ness that both have/had. My main pain points on Shape are hedging and committing to the wrong wagon. But: he could've voted with Tumbe/Sicklucker as there was (imho) no way more people would pile on TW. I wasn't in thread and thread wasn't interested in Tumble. Maybe it's just town paranoia. My top townreads do vote for shape. So while I'm still paranoid, it's okay I guess. ##vote Shapelog ![[image loading]](https://media.tenor.co/images/5396540c3cfea10d09942bd4d370d100/tenor.gif) Seriously tho, Where are you actually with tumble and Rels? This post tells me nothing bc ironically ur wishy washing in it. Why is the afk scum team weird when you dont know the factors of it? | ||
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On April 10 2017 00:02 darthfoley wrote: I think your reasoning kind of lines up with what SL and I have already pointed out. Which idk how to feel about. I get what you're saying but you could just be trying to wiggle out. On the other hand, the fact that everyone is voting on you requires 100% of the town to be correct which usually never happens, even if there's only 1 scum left. Plus everyone keeps talking about how simple the game is as an excuse to not play. Maybe it is really that simple. Is Rels your biggest scum read now? Personally why I am fine maytering. It will force everyone to play including scum it then. Otherwise, unless we lynch mafia, scum can always use it as a excuse. Like I said yesterday, Its most likely between BTDT and Rels. I find Rels much scummier then BTDT (tho i need to reread him admittedly) rn. Rels just seems really content with letting this lynch go by without actually putting in work in. I would expect him honestly to put more effort into the game then what he currently has as town. Also, thinking about it, he never actually progressed off any of the questions (or didn't post anything he founded with the questions) he asked me and tumble. My prob. with BTDT rn is that last post of his. Its really wishy washy and kinda sus. because of it. I honestly don't see much purpose as town in that post. If he suspected me as town (which he keeps saying he sees that since last night) I would somewhat expect Town!BTDT to act on it more then just posting "I think he could be town but idk" over and over again. Might just be paranoid like he says tho. At least he has a decent size filter and other things so I should be able to figure it out when I read it. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On April 08 2017 18:35 beentheredonethat wrote: Great flip! So Koshi, rayn, darth are pretty much cleared. Rels would've probably voted with me and Shape und Tumble so I assume he's pretty much cleared, too. The last scum hides between Shape, Tumble and Sicklucker. Tumble continued to do nothing and kept his vote on the irrelevant side of things. You could argue that Shape and me did so, too, but at least we had one wagon going. Sicklucker voted outside of Tumble/Calix but wanted to lynch shape. Of course each of Shape, tumble, sicklucker will replace himself with me on that scumlist. sicklucker initially voted for me. He might have actual reasons for that, or he's just tilted because I dropped a "fuck you". At this point, I want to apologize to sicklucker. I was already emotional when sicklucker chose to quote my Tumble case and react with virtually one single line to it which wasn't even serious. He absolutely tilted me with that (and I still feel tilted even thinking of it). Nevertheless, I shouldn't have reacted like that. So sicklucker says: (regarding calix vs btdt argument) while also saying so tendency is that I am not scum for him and tumble isn't, too. That leaves shape and this is genuine to be honest, I think his read progression and voting pattern (besides voting me) makes sense. So sicklucker might not be the remaining scum and I'd not lynch him over Tumble or Shape. On April 08 2017 18:36 beentheredonethat wrote: I think Rels piling on Calix, making it 4v2, clears him. Rels voting Tumble, making it 3-3 with others voting outside of it, would've been scummy as fuck. On April 08 2017 18:47 beentheredonethat wrote: Tumble votes Rels. Okay, I interpret that as scummy behaviour in the context of his three townreads. But he then ends up voting with sicklucker on Shapelog. Reading his filter, the vote makes sense, he kinda developed that read over the course of time. Only thing that strikes me is the low volume of posts right now. Like, Tumble didn't actively do a lot but he seems to at least vote reasonably. It's not enough to retract my scumread. But it, like, makes it a bit better. On April 08 2017 18:49 beentheredonethat wrote: As we only have two scummers, it's unlikely that he bussed. Feels more like afk Rels coming in, not being able to properly read up because of thread volume, voting main wagon because that's what you do when you haven't read the thread and still try to somehow reasonably vote. Right? On April 08 2017 19:00 beentheredonethat wrote: Let's also not forget that Tumble claimed a "mindmeld" with Calix. I don't think you do that as scum. Like, first thing you do is hardcore buddy up with your teammate when the rest of your play is "well, I'll stay under the radar"? I more and more get to think Tumble isn't actually scum. It's currently a gut feeling but the Calix flip seems to indicate that. That would mean that Shape should be the next lynch as he's been really hedgy about Calix and me. But then again, Shape clearly says he cannot see Tumble in a team with Calix. Which I kinda agree to. Hmm. That whole post is non-commital. And the Calix part is weird, hedgy. But overall, Shape's filter feels like he's active, asking questions, progressing the thread. He's sticking to asking Tumble stuff, he continuesly says he's fine with a Calix lynch, and overall keeps a calm town which isn't necessarily easy to have as town when you're faced with rayn, sicklucker and myself (esp. myself). In general, kudos to Koshi and Shape and Rayn for calming me down instead of tilting me further. I'm not sure about Shape at this point. On April 09 2017 18:07 beentheredonethat wrote: Hi. voting shape seems to be the obvious thing. Worth a try but I am paranoid over Shape being town. There are some things in his filter that feel a lot like it and people might be tunneled. We're down to one scum, so we have 7 town votes and 1 scum votes. That means that the scum vote isn't that relevant anymore. I think Tumble might get too easy town credit. Yes I know that I give him town credit for the Calix/Tumble is unlikely stuff but it's not a full clear. Same goes for Rels, someone said that it would've been a big risk for scum!Rels to make the wagon 3-3 with a AFK Calix. but then again, a Rels/Calix scumteam feels weird given the level of afk'ness that both have/had. My main pain points on Shape are hedging and committing to the wrong wagon. But: he could've voted with Tumbe/Sicklucker as there was (imho) no way more people would pile on TW. I wasn't in thread and thread wasn't interested in Tumble. Maybe it's just town paranoia. My top townreads do vote for shape. So while I'm still paranoid, it's okay I guess. ##vote Shapelog Those were just the ones I felt like quoting. Since the night phase to now, you have stated multiple reasons to find the suspect pool currently to be townie. I understand revising your reads, but I really have a hard time following what your reads are period. Honestly, looking at all the posts, you dont seem to have any confident scumreads at all. They all seem to have wishy washy statements thrown in with reasoning on why they seem townie, | ||
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On April 10 2017 02:16 darthfoley wrote: Let's do it ##unvote ##vote Beentheredonethat What ever happen to this? I think your reasoning kind of lines up with what SL and I have already pointed out. Which idk how to feel about. I get what you're saying but you could just be trying to wiggle out. | ||
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On April 10 2017 02:22 darthfoley wrote: Nothing happened to it. It's still a possibility but I actually like the content of your posts recently. They seem a lot more focused than your posts were earlier and I don't like how everyone has fucked off today as soon as 6 votes were placed on you Yeah that troubles me as well. Been really troubling for me honestly with certain individuals Hence y I want me to get lynched lol. On April 10 2017 02:24 darthfoley wrote: Like even the people who are skeptical that Shapelog is mafia aren't putting in any work to figure it out. I understand the laziness involved with having like 3 mislynches available or something but btdt comes in an sort of null reads his 3 scum reads and then doesn't do any more digging Well tbh, I just don't see him having any confidence in his reads plus the whole wishy washy posts just dont come off well to me now that I noticed how bad it was. His progression on me also might be off but I got to double check that. | ||
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On April 10 2017 02:37 darthfoley wrote: I guess everyone else thinks that Shapelog is just giving it the good old fight... by himself... in the thread for 6 hours before his lynch I have a day and 6 hours. Also yea, I'm pretty sure they do lol. And I dont blame them at all. | ||
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BTDT saw me as town/or townish before the flip due to being active and etc. [quote][QUOTE]On April 08 2017 04:04 beentheredonethat wrote: I like Shape's posts. They seem to make sense. Then again they also seem to always summarize what others do/did and they might lack original value. I'm too tired right now to really dive Shape's filter and check but it might be an incentive for [insert whoever is willing to do the work][/QUOTE] Does go on later to say he suppose to be SR me based off as well based off his view on tumble, but then turns it around and says that is not the case After flip, I become who he wants to lynch after he crosses off (at that time) tumble and SL. He also later states that he does not feel certain on me at this point. I remain in that position all the way up to his last post where he votes me, while also weaking his read on tumble and rels. The weaken part concerns me, bc it feels almost as if he is trying to be in a position to go after whom ever the thread chooses to go for after my lynch. This would explain why his posts have been hedgey after calix flipped, and explain the lack of confidence if it is coming from scum!BTDT. Agree? Disagree? Thoughts? | ||
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On April 10 2017 02:47 darthfoley wrote: oh right, another indicator of why i'm not a math major I can be good with math when I want too or make a error that is like 40% away from the actual %. | ||
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On April 10 2017 03:34 beentheredonethat wrote: It is pretty clear that I started to townread Tumble from my previous posts. It is pretty clear that I townread Rels for voting 4-2 instead of 3-3. Yes, it's not in the post you quoted. BUT it is in the posts I already made during the night. So - no, I am not wishy washy in it. A afk scum team would be weird because it's really hard to read into. I clearly express that I am okay with voting you, Shape, and I am content in following my top townreads. I am NOT being wishy washy because I ALSO say that I do have doubts about you being scum. Which is pretty normal. I don't know how you can say that I'm wishy washy there. Only way to do it is if you completely discard my posts during the night. Because your providing yourself a way to get out of those reads. I think Tumble might get too easy town credit. Yes I know that I give him town credit for the Calix/Tumble is unlikely stuff but it's not a full clear. Same goes for Rels, someone said that it would've been a big risk for scum!Rels to make the wagon 3-3 with a AFK Calix. Those reasoning on why you think they are town are also what you are saying giving them too much town credit. You admit this yourself in that post. Why do you want others to not look at your townreads as town, or now relook and give them less credit? It makes no sense if you really think they are town. Even with doubts about them, I don't see someone making a post where they state that the reason they are townreading shouldn't be giving that much credit. It's really alarming esp. to me bc Ik either you or Rels 90% of the time here is mafia. And here you are potentially setting up to ML them if your mafia. And lets say you are fine with me being lynched and do have doubts saying im scum.What I dont follow is the reasoning to keep posting things to show off your not certain. I get openly discussing in the thread ad that kinda of stuff, but the way you do it doesn't achieve anything from a townie mindset other than maybe convincing yourself I am scum...Which you SHOULD BE AT come to think if you think the rest of the people are town, like you just stated in your reply. For example you post this. Hi. voting shape seems to be the obvious thing. Worth a try but I am paranoid over Shape being town. There are some things in his filter that feel a lot like it and people might be tunneled. [...] My main pain points on Shape are hedging and committing to the wrong wagon. But: he could've voted with Tumbe/Sicklucker as there was (imho) no way more people would pile on TW. I wasn't in thread and thread wasn't interested in Tumble. Maybe it's just town paranoia. My top townreads do vote for shape. So while I'm still paranoid, it's okay I guess. You have reasons to think im town, but your sticking with your townreads stance on me. I understand that. But saying your certain in your vote isn't true. You stated "it's okay i guess.", meaning not only do you doubt your read, but also your vote. Furthermore in the night, you stated you dont feel certain on it and had more reasons to think im town But overall, Shape's filter feels like he's active, asking questions, progressing the thread. He's sticking to asking Tumble stuff, he continuesly says he's fine with a Calix lynch, and overall keeps a calm town which isn't necessarily easy to have as town when you're faced with rayn, sicklucker and myself (esp. myself). In general, kudos to Koshi and Shape and Rayn for calming me down instead of tilting me further. I'm not sure about Shape at this point. According to what you just said in your reply. There should be NO ONE ELSE to suspect as scum if you think that tumble is town, and rels is town, then me. Meaning, you should be on my ass with fire. Instead you "have doubts" | ||
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On April 10 2017 04:12 beentheredonethat wrote: Explain to me why so I also understand it, please. How am I keeping options open when I'm voting Shape and adding two people to my town pile? Tumble, Rels, you and Rayn are on my town pile. I'm okay with a Shape lynch because I see the reasons people are voting him and I agree with them. Of course there's noone defending Shape - everyone's hoping he'll flip scum and the one remaining scum is fine with a clear mislynch if Shape is town. ![[image loading]](http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/bmh.gif) | ||
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On April 10 2017 04:13 beentheredonethat wrote: Then again, SL claimed doc more or less so I should add him to my town pile, too. That leaves - Koshi. Wow. Regarding the SL doc claim: keep in mind that Mafia can hold their shot. It might very well be that SL claimed doc although he simply held his shot. Wait you don't beleive koshi is town? And yea i suppose he could be mafia, in which case I am going to laugh my ass off post game if that is the case and he prob. deserves it bc that plan is fucking brilliant. | ||
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On April 10 2017 04:49 beentheredonethat wrote: Of course I get out of reads. Reads are subject to change over the course of the game. Everyone who says "this guy is 100% alignment x" and is always right is scum. You say: Because I might be wrong Oo. I want everyone to not sheep me but instead develop their own opinions. Especially in terms of town reads I am not supposed to make everyone my townreads their townreads. I'd do so if one of my townreads would be up for the lynch which is not the case. If it's either me or Rels, why did you absolutely not care about me or Rels previously? Why did you even vote with me? Why didn't you vote for Rels? And where do you get this very high probability from? It's rather easy: my top scumread changed to a townread. I have not put in the work (freely admitting that) to re-read everyone, especially since I am fairly happy with you being lynched - I think the chance that you flip scum is at a decent 60-75%. I freely admit to not having original scumreads on my own right now - which might be scum indicative but to be frank I don't care too much what people think at this point. I mean what's wrong with voting with my top town reads, especially rayn, given that he was the main incentive in lynching Calix which turned out to be a good move? Yeah, that's true. I'm not 100% sure you're scum, and if Calix had flipped town, I'm pretty sure I'd still be going for Tumblewood way over you. The things you have going for you are things like activity, things like "I have to flip sooner or later because I won't be able to clear myself anyways" which I fully understand (I have the same feeling about myself to be honest, if you don't flip scum, I expect a rather fast mislynch on me) I do not really know thought what you want to achieve with writing what you wrote there. Yeah, I do. As you correctly wrote, if you're not scum, all I have left is technically Koshi, who's also townie to me (he voted Calix early, right?). But remember D1. I got blamed as "bad town" a subjective 10000 times. It's quite possible that I'm wrong on things. That makes me unsure. 1) Yes but its the timing of it and the way your doing it that is worrying me. And your doing it with easy targets if your mafia. That is my biggest issue with it. Mafia now has to plan out how the living hell to get 3 ML's and one Lylo (unless they are dumb and it gets blocked by SL again.) With who is alive rn, and who I currently suspect. I don't think any of the people with enough credibility (minus Darth maybe but see 3) ) to pull that off. So they cannot purely live based off that, so they must now start considering ways to make the rest of the sus. townies worse then them, while digging themselves out of "Shape is last mafia" read. 2) Your discrediting your own reasoning to see them as town tho. It be like saying "Ryan is town for what he did with calix etc." then saying "You shouldn't be putting that much stock into Ryan's interactions with calix." It doesn't make sense you posting to the thread the latter when your reads are first ""'s. 3) That came after the night result and SL claimed doc basically. You can check the post if you want to, but basically. I believe tumble is town based off calix. Koshi is town as well. SL I believe his claim, and prob. healed Ryan which confirms ryan. Even if he didn't, I still think ryan is town. I think darth is town, but not as much as everyone else just bc I lack enough to confirm him in my mind. Therefore, I am left with Rels or you being scum after the night flip. So I Highly believe scum is either between you two, with the off chance of it being darth (or maybe tumble if he doesn't do anything my day 3). 4) But then you posted what you did discrediting it imo. Which doesn't progress or help what you posted in the night at all with your reads. Touchee with the second paragraph 5) Bc i dont really believe your as ok with your vote as you made it out seem in your reply which strike me as odd. 6) Well i didn't know about you not fully rereading him. But still, I don't see you posting what you did if I am the only real sus person for you rn, even if you think you are wrong. If you have doubts, I would also suspect you if you thought that to start looking at other people again (which should of happen now in my mind since you were unsure earlier about me) Maybe this is just a POV and preference on the matter. I don't think we are going to get anywhere with this point in the long run. On April 10 2017 04:53 beentheredonethat wrote: Can you please not post those gifs but instead be constructive and try to explain? Or, not react at all like this? Tbh I think I have posted more content to shitpost ratio filled post this game then in like the last 3 games I have played. You have no idea how hard it is not to troll rn and claim scum as town. | ||
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On April 10 2017 05:07 Koshi wrote: ##Vote Shapelog For epeen Heaven wasn't worth the full trip of 96 hours? | ||
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On April 10 2017 04:51 beentheredonethat wrote: Shape, is "It's 90% Rels or BTDT" your final call on things? Unless I see something dramatically wrong with someone else? Let me, Cross the I's and Dot the T's. Yes. | ||
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On April 10 2017 04:13 beentheredonethat wrote: Then again, SL claimed doc more or less so I should add him to my town pile, too. That leaves - Koshi. Wow. Regarding the SL doc claim: keep in mind that Mafia can hold their shot. It might very well be that SL claimed doc although he simply held his shot. Actually no, thinking about that rn. That is a really dumb plan. He has no idea if a PR is in the game or not. He would also be the last scum. That means, 66% of the time, he gets cced and insta-loses. Unless he try and goat out a PR as a goon and saw no one bited and then held and claim. But that is just silly. | ||
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On April 10 2017 05:56 beentheredonethat wrote: If he does not know the setup, yes. If he does know the setup, it's a valid play which isn't bad. Well do you know the answer to that or not? | ||
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On April 10 2017 06:12 beentheredonethat wrote: Lemme try. 1) I don't know why the timing should worry you. I have adjusted my reads based upon a major event in the game: a flip. A scum player was confirmed. I have mostly tried to adjust my reads based on Calix flipping scum. And I have begun doing so during the Night phase, meaning at a time where there was no vote on you yet. What particular timing are you talking about? 2) I'm not discrediting my reasoning to see Rayn and darth as town. I have reached my own conclusion: "they voted Calix very early, especially rayn kept pushing Calix. They are probably town." You are misinterpreting what I said, especially since you ignore the fact that I was solely talking about myself and how people should see my townreads. I am pretty sure on Rayn and darth, I am not-so-sure about Tumble, SL and Rels, but I'm sure enough on them to lynch you. 3) Well okay, that's just fine. Pretty much my own conclusion, except I'm not 100% sold on the doc claim. The last scum is most likely between you, me, sicklucker/, (Rels, Tumble, Darth,) in that order, with the guys in brackets being townreads of mine. So basically we scumread each other for the same PoE reasons. Lol. 4) Not sure what to reply to this. I don't think I discredited my Tumble townread but even if I did, it might simply come from the fact that he's nowhere near locked town right now. If it's not shape, if it's not SL/Rels, then Tumble would be my next consideration. But I do realize that I'm judging a lot by gut feeling and am very close to guessing, so what I should do if Shape flips town is actually reading sicklucker without prejudice and re-reading Tumble and finally policy lynching Rels as he keeps not playing. regarding policy and Koshi: I'll just pretend he's town and ride or die. And brag post game about how shitty it is to go afk for 96 hours. 5) I'll put it like this: "I am okay with my vote on Shape but I am aware that I have not put in too much work." Basically right now, I am lazy town being okay with a Shape lynch as it clears a variable. Because still, what you do, is very hedgy and non-commital. If you flip town, I'll have to carefully reconsider what to do with sicklucker/Rels. 6) Yeah technically I should re-read others and try to find reasons to not lynch you. But then again, as I said, I think 60-75% is a good chance to not have to do that work. Finding the last scum will be hard anyway, it's really hit or miss as Calix chose to not really interact with people. 1) The timing im talking about is the post I org. quoted from today. Because last night you got yourself tied into your tumble and Rels reads and if your mafia, you would need to start finding outs for them. since those are the other ML pool currently, the post you made day 2 (the one i quoted org.) felt like that to me. 2) I'm talking about your reasoning to see Tumble and Rel's as town and what you said in the post that started all this. 3) I suppose this point needs to be talked about is over then in that case? 4)If Rel's doesnt post anything other than a "Yay guys =)" or "damm =(" post please fucking line him up and kill him. Please. Anyways, Why am I actually trying to have a conversion about that with you when if your either alignment you will just say anything else to contradict it. I just realized that. Dude if you want to do that, Vote ryan and then On April 10 2017 06:21 beentheredonethat wrote: This is the final vote count. Four people voted outside of Calix. me, Shapelog, sicklucker, Tumblewood. Tumblewood should be town based on his early interaction with Calix. It's unlikely that scum acts like this on scum. sicklucker claimed doctor. Tumblewood is VT. Leaves Shapelog. If it's not Shapelog, Rels should definitely be moved into scum range. sicklucker's claim holds, the townread on Tumble does, too, and I still have my role PM which says VT, so it should be me or Rels, which is exactly what Shape says. That's a dilemma. But we do have enough mislynches to lynch all three of us, don't we. we have 3 ML's and one Lylo currently. Town wins this most likely in time unless scum is in Koshi/Ryan/Darth. | ||
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On April 10 2017 06:24 beentheredonethat wrote: I feel like I have reached disformation levels of insecurity. Good, he usually posts piles of cases with tinfoil as either alignment then. | ||
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On April 10 2017 13:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay then i think Rels cannot be scum. I think he would have shot Koshi since i am hard-defending him. Possibly. Does help his case, though he should still be continued to be looked at. The most mafia thing Shape did today was attack df a bit I think. Dnu. The weirdest thing he did was say rayn could still be mafia. Which is weird if the docsave of sl is correct. As mafia you should know that and rayn is already confirmed, but then again. As town as well. Unless rayn decided to no kill I guess. What D2 have you been reading 0.o? Ryan is locked town in my reads and the only thing I talked about darth is that he could be scum if its not in BTDT and Koshi. Also I know a secret way to get to heaven. | ||
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I am giving up my live so that your sins of being lazy can be redeem. Unlike Jesus tho, I highly doubt I can come back alive. | ||
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Here just cant do much rn till I get this done. Should be soon tho. | ||
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