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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-20 03:33:53
April 20 2017 03:32 GMT
#1479
i'm happy Adam believed in me in the obs qt. Advice/criticism etc. are always welcome for my play
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 20 2017 15:45 GMT
#1499
honestly would've given the mvp to koshi. Sicklucker's play was smart but Koshi's was smarter because he sat on the information and made the correct read about what SL was doing. Was also right about both mafia when sl didn't vote for either.

either way both of you played conceptually well
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 20 2017 16:42 GMT
#1502
On April 21 2017 01:36 Koshi wrote:
No I already had one. It should have been df though. And then rayn 50 points. And sicklucker maybeeee 25.

I don't know why iamp loves sl so much.


MVP has to be on the winning team i think
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 20 2017 20:08 GMT
#1510
On April 21 2017 05:03 Onegu wrote:
MVP wont go to someone who was MVP already since it is for a qualifying spot. So koshi cant get it. Must be on the winning team. Sorry DF. SL play affected who was attempted to be shot and helped saves being made. So if Koshi and DF cannot get it, who other than SL should?


nah i agree. i didn't realize you couldn't be 2x mvp
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 21 2017 05:26 GMT
#1512
i hope everything is okay with calix. she disappeared in our QT at the same time as the actual game
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 21 2017 21:27 GMT
#1516
On April 22 2017 06:01 Hapahauli wrote:
The game itself was pretty simple. Some of the better players picked up on Calix's awkward conversations in the early game. Her disappearance made her the path of least resistance to lynch, which is a death sentence in these plurality games.

Darthfoley was obviously much harder to catch because of his "cleaner" play and the town-cred he got from bussing Calix early and hard. One of the hardest things for town to navigate around is bussing plays, and this game made me think a lot about how to identify possible bussing situations and when you should be considering them.

Town could have benefited from considering Calix's slot more, and the circumstances around her lynch. The lack of resistance around actually lynching her (sudden disappearance and long-term Day 1 inactivity) made a bussing play a lot more likely than in a normal situation. With Calix not showing up to defend herself, it makes very little sense for a mafia buddy to try to look bad defending her. Or at the very least, it makes a bussing play much much more attractive. If your partner isn't fighting and is going to go down, why put any credibility and effort into defending said partner?

Analysis in hindsight of course, but certainly worth thinking about in future games.


Indeed. That's exactly the argument I used against Rels. I originally put my vote on Calix because she was being scummy and I could either 1) be on the bus early and get a lot of town cred, or 2) Calix would come back, play a bit more solid and I could jump off voting her and hammer someone else. When she didn't return, I realized I had put myself in a decent situation with a single early vote.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
April 22 2017 22:44 GMT
#1521
sl were you probably gonna lynch me in f3 if i had killed koshi?
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