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Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 12 2017 23:05 GMT
#1181
On April 13 2017 08:02 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2017 07:58 Rels wrote:
On April 07 2017 06:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm fine with Rels, Tumble, Shape, Calix, Koshi lynches apparently

and also Rayn

lol I don't have townreads apparently

this post during D1 is pretty townie

No that post is actually extremely mafia.

nope. He's pissing off people and admitting he doesn't have townreads. It's weird for a constructed read of the game
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 12 2017 23:05 GMT
#1182
It doesn't make the game in any way fun for other people. Not if you are mafia. Not if you are town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 12 2017 23:06 GMT
#1183
On April 13 2017 08:05 Koshi wrote:
Just don't join games when your commitment is this fucking horrible.

grtz Rels you once again missed an entire d1. Just stop joining games you *****.

It's gonna be OK. I'm here now.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 12 2017 23:06 GMT
#1184
On April 13 2017 08:05 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2017 08:02 Koshi wrote:
On April 13 2017 07:58 Rels wrote:
On April 07 2017 06:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm fine with Rels, Tumble, Shape, Calix, Koshi lynches apparently

and also Rayn

lol I don't have townreads apparently

this post during D1 is pretty townie

No that post is actually extremely mafia.

nope. He's pissing off people and admitting he doesn't have townreads. It's weird for a constructed read of the game

See. That happens when you don't play. You don't understand what happened in the past.

Why is it not mafia saying 'guys I have no fucking clue what to do"
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 12 2017 23:06 GMT
#1185
Nha I am out.

You fucking suck ass Rels.
I had a good night of sleep.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 12 2017 23:07 GMT
#1186
On April 13 2017 08:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2017 08:05 Rels wrote:
On April 13 2017 08:02 Koshi wrote:
On April 13 2017 07:58 Rels wrote:
On April 07 2017 06:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm fine with Rels, Tumble, Shape, Calix, Koshi lynches apparently

and also Rayn

lol I don't have townreads apparently

this post during D1 is pretty townie

No that post is actually extremely mafia.

nope. He's pissing off people and admitting he doesn't have townreads. It's weird for a constructed read of the game

See. That happens when you don't play. You don't understand what happened in the past.

Why is it not mafia saying 'guys I have no fucking clue what to do"

'cause it is super scary to say "guys I have no fucking clue what to do" as scum.
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 12 2017 23:08 GMT
#1187
On April 13 2017 08:06 Koshi wrote:
Nha I am out.

You fucking suck ass Rels.

Then you are the one sucking ass (= complaining but not taking the opportunity when it arises
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 12 2017 23:08 GMT
#1188
what you are talking about with Tumble 100% townreading BTDT ? He actually had the weirdest read on him but it ended up on "bad town", not 100%
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 12 2017 23:10 GMT
#1189
On April 13 2017 07:56 Koshi wrote:
Like... You were on btdt his ass and not Shape or SL or w.e.

w.e

I don't really care. I am just lynching baddies with mafia treats.

If you don't play. I cba.

what does cba even mean?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 12 2017 23:11 GMT
#1190
On April 13 2017 07:15 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2017 07:12 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 13 2017 06:56 Tumblewood wrote:
and btdt I don't know where rels is "doing things" in his filter that I'm not. like if not 'contributing' to the game makes me scummy then rels is twice as bad. because half his posts are about how he's going to / not going to play, and the other half are reaffirming the shapelog lynch, and all of them are idle

I'm not saying he's doing things though.

ok but you have ragged on me all game for this reason. and yet rels is doing it but even worse and you're still voting me? that's what I don't get

Rels kind of doing nothing is not necessarily alignment indicative. He's doing nothing by not posting. You're doing nothing while posting.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 12 2017 23:12 GMT
#1191
this:
On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 19:47 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:45 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 16:25 Koshi wrote:
Hey rayn, if you don't mind, I am going for a -20 posts D1, 2-3 posts N1, 5 posts D2 and 2 posts N2. Well, unless mafia shoots me like they did the last 5 nights I was alive.

I will read the first 36 hours of the game and give my opinion. With some luck it is different than the last time.

Koshi please don't say such things they feel scummy


How is that post scummy?

"I will do [whatever]" is always scummy. Don't promise, do.

this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen
- btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise
- (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game)
- btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise)
- btdt does not push koshi
but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now

On April 07 2017 01:48 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 01:09 Shapelog wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
How does the post make him scummy (cba to reopen filter from calix

On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?

Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc.

On April 06 2017 19:58 Calix wrote:
Your opening post stood out to me because I looked at it and I could not tell what you were trying to do/ say since it didn't say anything. A post for the sake of making a post is probably a better way to put it.

Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?

Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc.

It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I.


If you think that, where is your vote...?

On April 06 2017 19:58 Calix wrote:
Your opening post stood out to me because I looked at it and I could not tell what you were trying to do/ say since it didn't say anything. A post for the sake of making a post is probably a better way to put it.
this:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?

Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc.

It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I.


If you think that, where is your vote...?



Versus:

On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:47 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:45 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 16:25 Koshi wrote:
Hey rayn, if you don't mind, I am going for a -20 posts D1, 2-3 posts N1, 5 posts D2 and 2 posts N2. Well, unless mafia shoots me like they did the last 5 nights I was alive.

I will read the first 36 hours of the game and give my opinion. With some luck it is different than the last time.

Koshi please don't say such things they feel scummy


How is that post scummy?

"I will do [whatever]" is always scummy. Don't promise, do.

this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen
- btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise
- (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game)
- btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise)
- btdt does not push koshi
but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now


If anything, Tumble's post is a TLDR of Calix's train of thought/posts/points that were spread out during that time. Which if he was mafia, could easily be faked if need be.

well yeah because calix was making good points and it seemed like they went over everyone's heads

On April 07 2017 03:07 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 01:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
Actually reading Tumblewood's filter: there is NO (absolutely no!) contribution to the game. Just banter. Besides that easily to be made up post.

##vote Tumblewood do something

how bout you do something first and I do something about that something
(I think you are bad town who thinks contributions mean anything. thankfully you are transparent. I think.)

On April 08 2017 05:18 Tumblewood wrote:
have no qualms about lynching
rels
(shape)

have some qualms about lynching
sl
koshi
(calix)

not lynching today
df
rayn
btdt

beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 12 2017 23:12 GMT
#1192
On April 13 2017 08:06 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2017 08:05 Rels wrote:
On April 13 2017 08:02 Koshi wrote:
On April 13 2017 07:58 Rels wrote:
On April 07 2017 06:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm fine with Rels, Tumble, Shape, Calix, Koshi lynches apparently

and also Rayn

lol I don't have townreads apparently

this post during D1 is pretty townie

No that post is actually extremely mafia.

nope. He's pissing off people and admitting he doesn't have townreads. It's weird for a constructed read of the game

See. That happens when you don't play. You don't understand what happened in the past.

Why is it not mafia saying 'guys I have no fucking clue what to do"

Except I didn't say "i have no clue what to do", instead I tried to get Tumblewood lynched.
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 12 2017 23:13 GMT
#1193
On April 13 2017 08:06 Koshi wrote:
Nha I am out.

You fucking suck ass Rels.

But why leave the very moment Rels starts playing?
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 12 2017 23:15 GMT
#1194
On April 12 2017 03:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 09:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On April 11 2017 05:36 darthfoley wrote:
On April 11 2017 05:21 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 11 2017 00:19 darthfoley wrote:
On April 11 2017 00:10 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 11 2017 00:03 darthfoley wrote:
On April 10 2017 20:39 Rels wrote:
in comparaison Shape / Calix is so cordial. More cordial than any other interaction in Calix' filter.
yep. ##Vote Shapelog


So you think scum!Calix would try to be cordial with her partner in a game with lots of veterans?

there are one and a half fatal assumptions here
one is that calix was trying to do that, which would just be silly. the other being that calix might do that to a particular townie, which is highly improbable


Why is it highly improbable?

idk, it's just one of those things you don't think about as scum. not that you couldn't, just that you don't.
plus it would only be useful if calix flips and town calls it out, which is not easily foreseeable from the first 24 hours


Fair enough. I still don't see why "calix's interactions with btdt make it unlikely they're together" cuz don't mafia often pressure each other early D1 and then back off (which is what she kinda did)

It is not "they interacted with together and ended up not calling each other scum", it's more of how the interaction went, especially from btdt's side. Like usually when mafia interacts with mafia and it ends like this both people know what they are doing, right? They have a plan and they know where it ends, in the end. I think it's highly unlike when Calix "ends the interaction" btdt just keeps going on and going on with it. Also that was the one of the interactions that made btdt "sad" a bit later in the game. Why would he get sad for that? He had just achieved what he wanted to as mafia.

This is the reason i am 100% sure btdt is town. I have now tried to read his filter for line 10 times and i always stop here and think "nonononono fuck no this dude is not scum regardless of what he says after acting like this"...

the above + this is true. BTDT is never scum with Calix. 99% sure
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 12 2017 23:18 GMT
#1195
As I said, if It's not Rels/Tumble, we've already lost the game.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 12 2017 23:24 GMT
#1196
On April 11 2017 22:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2017 22:00 Koshi wrote:
Just make sure your last posts give a clear direction for tomorrow rayn.

Rels/Tumble/btdt/df

And if you have time and didn't already do it. (I didn't read the previous 100 hours carefully yet), can you give me your opinion on how likely it is df is brilliant mafia that just made a couple but really good quality posts.

If darthfoley's play from what the last game (him as mafia) was has suddenly gone like 100% different then yes he could be mafia, but no.

WTF did rayn mess up disformation and DF or what
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 12 2017 23:24 GMT
#1197
Koshi is only scum if he absolutely bussed the shit out of Calix from the get-go.
sicklucker is only scum if he fakeclaimed and no-killed.
darthfoley is only scum if he chose to bus Calix rather early (being the 2nd to vote Calix)
beentheredonethat is town.

Leaves Tumbleweed and Rels.

One of those has to be scum. We have enough lynches to kill both of them.


"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 12 2017 23:25 GMT
#1198
On April 13 2017 08:24 beentheredonethat wrote:
Koshi is only scum if he absolutely bussed the shit out of Calix from the get-go.
sicklucker is only scum if he fakeclaimed and no-killed.
darthfoley is only scum if he chose to bus Calix rather early (being the 2nd to vote Calix)
beentheredonethat is town.

Leaves Tumbleweed and Rels.

One of those has to be scum. We have enough lynches to kill both of them.




fixed colouring
"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
beentheredonethat
Profile Joined May 2016
2934 Posts
April 12 2017 23:28 GMT
#1199
There's one scenario where Koshi/darthfoley could be scum although they voted for Calix super-early. That would be Calix saying in obs qt "oh shit, I gotta go, can't play, sorry".

Calix didn't play anymore after having the initial encounter with me. That might be a scenario. I wouldn't like losing to that but if that's the case, I think we simply lost.

"Micro tricks like marine splitting, blink stalker micro, and ling/baneling wars were the apex of the game’s achievements; nothing in the world takes your breath away like watching a pro player split marines like a god."
Rels
Profile Joined August 2008
France13467 Posts
April 12 2017 23:41 GMT
#1200
meh. DF's post are involved in this game. Likely town.
I was thinking about sicklucker's fakeclaim yesterday. But scum doesn't" know the setup, so if he's scum he took a risk that make him auto loses 66% of the time.
Koshi's reaction to Calix early D1 basically makes him 100% town. + he just got even more town by being an ass just now in his Koshi way.
So. Tumble is scum. Only thing going for him is the "mindmeld" on Calix. Which is weird for partners. But the rest is inexistent. Bland. BTDT's read in particular makes no sense. And I don't know how anybody scumread BTDT over me too. I quoted his D1 BTDT read above which is weird. No idea why he's scumreading BTDT now. Kinda looks like a leftover read from the "lynch Shape" area of the game. It's not very organic.
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