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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 10:35 GMT
#566
Calix her conversations are all way to static. Way to fucking static. When she is onto something and actually interested in what she is engaging about she jumps fast. Tries to identify that person his alignment.

This game was summed up perfectly with the banana example. She is just giving arguments without moving towards an answer.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 10:36 GMT
#573
On April 07 2017 19:35 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:33 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:32 sicklucker wrote:
lynch beentheredonethat then one of shape and rels

GET ME OUT :D

town!Calix her conversation with a mafia!btdt MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE.
You somewhat know who Calix is right? meta?


no? looked townie unless shes a notorious busser

How? How? How the fuck did she buss btdt if she 2 times within 4 posts denieing for "going after him" and "scumreading him" and then in the next 5 posts tries to end the conversation 4 times?

Are you for fucking real?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 10:37 GMT
#575
denieing for = denies
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 10:40 GMT
#582
On April 07 2017 19:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:36 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:35 sicklucker wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:33 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:32 sicklucker wrote:
lynch beentheredonethat then one of shape and rels

GET ME OUT :D

town!Calix her conversation with a mafia!btdt MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE.
You somewhat know who Calix is right? meta?


no? looked townie unless shes a notorious busser

How? How? How the fuck did she buss btdt if she 2 times within 4 posts denieing for "going after him" and "scumreading him" and then in the next 5 posts tries to end the conversation 4 times?

Are you for fucking real?

Exactly this, Koshi.

Koshi's behaviour, his push on me and also this post let's me think he's town. This doesn't feel like drive-by scum-Koshi that I am used to from hosting and playing.

If you think I am town now.

Start looking into Calix more. I need you to have a strong stance on her. Well documented. Well argumantated.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 10:40 GMT
#584
##unvote
##vote Calix


Not a big fan of btdt but we will see.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 10:43 GMT
#588
On April 07 2017 19:42 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 19:40 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:38 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:36 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:35 sicklucker wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:33 Koshi wrote:
On April 07 2017 19:32 sicklucker wrote:
lynch beentheredonethat then one of shape and rels

GET ME OUT :D

town!Calix her conversation with a mafia!btdt MAKES NO FUCKING SENSE.
You somewhat know who Calix is right? meta?


no? looked townie unless shes a notorious busser

How? How? How the fuck did she buss btdt if she 2 times within 4 posts denieing for "going after him" and "scumreading him" and then in the next 5 posts tries to end the conversation 4 times?

Are you for fucking real?

Exactly this, Koshi.

Koshi's behaviour, his push on me and also this post let's me think he's town. This doesn't feel like drive-by scum-Koshi that I am used to from hosting and playing.

If you think I am town now.

Start looking into Calix more. I need you to have a strong stance on her. Well documented. Well argumantated.

I can't deliver that right now.The status quo of Calix is what happened yesterday, and I'd say it's a scumlean on her right now. It's not enough for me to join a wagon over tumble.

Also I dislike how my points on tumble just got completely under the radar, would love if you guys could pick them up, too.

Because we need to grill you first and then maybe accept your points. I am looking in your filter now.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 10:50 GMT
#592
On April 07 2017 18:55 beentheredonethat wrote:
The whole sicklucker Rayn argument is getting out of hand, all the while everyone else gets away with doing nothing, specifically speaking of Tumblewood. Why is this added in this post. Such a bad start bro. It shows you are refreshing the game but you can't join the conversation, and in the mean time you are typing up a big post and that is something mafia prefers to do. There is also nothing on rayn or sicklucker that helps the thread here

Like, what is Tumble even doing?

* starts the game with seven posts which are absolutely irrelevant banter NAI
* puts up three posts that have somewhat of game relevance (but then, no follow up, so that renders his questions pointless) I dislike your interpretation of those posts
* enters thread again, claims a mind meld, drops a townread for that on calix NAI
* his mind meld is scumreading me for exactly what Calix said, pretty much following thread sentiment Not true at all. Thread sentiment was against Calix
* BUT ends up calling me bad town So what?
* one more townread on ShapeNAI
* claims to have done "meta research" on Rels pregame, votes Rels Did he? lol. NAI though
* more vague stuff ("spidey senses", some more blabla) spidey senses are town or he is lieing. NAI

This is at least my perception of what Tumble is doing so far. My observations. I can see the initial banter coming from town or from at least a certain level of "I don't care how I look". But that does not align with the "I prepared for Rels pregame" thing. Why would you banter if you even took the time and prepared (assuming he's town, of course) for a game? You should be more afraid of being scumread, right? I don't understand

Next action, the famous "Calix is town and btdt is bad town" stuff. Claims to have a mind meld with Calix there but note the difference in the "bad town" timing that he and Calix have. It might very well be that Tumble simply followed thread sentiment, did some drive by posting, and then realized "ohshit, Calix ain't hard scumreading btdt". So he backed off of judging the Calix/btdt interaction, as everyone else did. I disagree

His townread on Shape is unexplained. But that's not alignment indicative. Nevertheless, it's always easier to say "uh this guy's probably town" as scum then committing to a real push. Decent point

Now to the interesting stuff. The pregame research on Rels. I have a hard time believeing that. Why?
1. The game was posted rather spontanously.
2. The game filled up really, really fast.
3. Why would you research on someone's meta in such a short period of time when you cannot possibly know whether you're rolling town or scum?
4. Why claim that research? Obviously, to gain town creds. "Uh, damn, I did something and it's useless because the guy is not there. Let's vote him!" I agree with everything you say here. But why would mafia create such a stupid lie?... Just so random.

The vote on Rels in combination with three(!) townreads and a weird "I prepared" post really let's me think Tumble is mafia, trying to pile on a afk player (i.e. low hanging mislynch fruit for scum). When having only townreads, voting an afker is not the worst decision

Summary: Tumble has done nothing thus far, he has not contributed any original thoughts, he parked his vote on an AFK person which he claims to have specifically prepared for. I think this is a highly scum-indicative behaviour. Or trash town behavior. Like... Why is it mafia behavior. He is not looking good at all.


I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 10:51 GMT
#594
On April 07 2017 19:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
In this post:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 20:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:06 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
Do you think it's worth pushing, Calix?


No, I don't.

But that's not the point.

You clearly think it is.

Why does it matter what I think then?

Can you not pretend I "clearly" think it is and consider the sentence that comes right after "I think it's worth a push"?

Can you also think about why I put "I think" in front of "It's worth a push"? Normally, that means that a person wants to imply a certain level of uncertainty about something. We're both town, right? So we want to help each other out by judging each other's thoughts. So you can either pick up what I say and drop your own opinion, or you can go after me because I do not place a vote on the very first maybe pushable thing that I find when the game is three pages and some hours in.



Yup. I flagged that sentence as well. It was soooooooo fucking weird.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 10:53 GMT
#598
On April 07 2017 19:52 sicklucker wrote:
koshi why did you change your vote. this guys mafia or hes not real life

haha I don't know. Defuse him a bit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 10:58 GMT
#605
On April 07 2017 19:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
okay okay. btdt is probably mafia.

Good we added him back in the pool this morning
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 11:00 GMT
#606
On April 07 2017 19:58 beentheredonethat wrote:
ok. We've reached a point where any continues discussion with me is not bringing the thread any further. Rayn, Koshi, sicklucker are all scumreading me and I've tried my best to explain what I did and why I did it.

So just lynch me, enjoy my VT flip, and continue the game without my apparently bad contributions.

It is our right to do so. Also, how you interact with us shows me you see us all 3 as "equals". While sl and I were scumreads. Now you already flipped on me (which is nai) but why also sl?

Anyway you don't have to defend constantly.

Problem is Calix and Shape are not here. And Rels is afk again.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 11:03 GMT
#610
On April 07 2017 20:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i liked all the green stuff you pointed out koshi but what struck me was the... well let me quote it word to word.
"Now to the interesting stuff....
wrote exactly 267 words and ~170 we get into the interesting stuff.....
yeahhhh...

Porbably because the 170 words before that he was reaching. And just like Calix arguing about unexplainable stuff is easier and cleaner.

meh. Shape still worries me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 11:05 GMT
#611
hopefully df makes another great set of posts soon.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 11:08 GMT
#620
On April 07 2017 20:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
sicklucker and Calix.

btdt/shape is what worries me atm.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 11:11 GMT
#623
On April 07 2017 20:08 beentheredonethat wrote:
I'm rather serious. I'm already not enjoying this game and it won't be better. It feels like whatever I say to explain stuff, all you guys do is put more questions. You kinda want to scumread me at that point. Maybe you should back off the thread and re-read me without the heat of the discussion, especially the last 5-6 pages of the thread. But then again, that's up to you.

That's the game bro. You were attacking me a lot when I was mafia in DotA 2.
atm we are attacking you because we consider you as mafia.

I also disliked getting attacked as town. Now I am more ok with. Something to do with being bad handling criticism and thinking that your play doesn't deserve criticism.

Anyway. We will see.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 11:13 GMT
#626
On April 07 2017 20:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi let's get this thing straight, he is not mafia.

I am waiting on DF his opinion. It is very possible he is not mafia. But I am not definitive yet.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 11:15 GMT
#627
On April 07 2017 20:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why even pretend? There is no reason to.

I still have game reasons to think he is mafia. But yeah, his emotions say town.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 11:20 GMT
#631
tumble/sicklucker is not the worst team.

- Both townread Calix for some reason.
- Shape read the Calix/btdt engagement tvt

So if those 2 are mafia town ate themselves up, which they always do.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 11:26 GMT
#633
True.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
April 07 2017 11:27 GMT
#635
On April 06 2017 20:51 Koshi wrote:
##vote Calix
I don't understand her.

On April 06 2017 23:29 Koshi wrote:
Would suck if you are mafia with Calix shape


I am running with this then.
I had a good night of sleep.
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