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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 11 2017 16:29 GMT
#1100
On April 12 2017 00:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2017 00:08 Koshi wrote:
It is true what you say but I think Rels just made the correct play to survive. Calix was made.

Same could be said about you and me too... And i don't think i am mafia and i don't think you are mafia.


I don't think the same could be said considering you, koshi and I were the ones who applied a lot of pressure on Calix. More than just early D1 feeler pressure. By the time Rels came in that pressure, and her crumbling, was already set in stone. I don't think the two situations are comparable
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 11 2017 16:36 GMT
#1101
On April 11 2017 21:00 Koshi wrote:
I do not know why Rels is not the lynch tomorrow.

Sicklucker is obviously doctor, or he did an insane play to secure him lylo. In this game mafia doesn't know the setup, so if this is a vt setup he gambled on that and then gambled on not being coutnerclaimed???? Are you all dense or am I wrong about the setup? I didn't read the op.

rayn can't be mafia because while I threw the ball, he made the alley hoop. or w.e that is called. And then during night he decides to not kill anybody while he isn't sure there is a doc so he might get docsaved and then be confirmed? Even more confirmed than he already is??? Are you fuckers for real?

So everybody should have at least 3 superconfirmed townies himself included.


Who is left for me:
Rels
Tumble
btdt
df

For me the obvious choice is Rels. Didn't do shit, and just gained cred when it was cool. Go lynch that fucker.
Darthfoley played well if he is mafia. Cherry picked what he posted and made them incredible.
Tumble most likely is town. Read rayn his posts on why. He is just playing like he always plays. Weird or not understandable does NOT equal scum. Not now, not ever.
btdt is possibly mafia due to interactions with Calix and bad posts. But he is not mafia due to activity and emotions. So he is not mafia and should not be considered in the next 2 lynches. Or do we lose after 3ml? I don't know.


So lynch Rels
Then look at how clean dartholey is
Then look at how messed up Tumble and btdt are and pick one in lylo. Hopefully I am there and not sicklucker.



Also protip to btdt and tumble: Stop calling each other mafia because you don't understand the other person his playstyle. It's dumb.


My only qualm as to why Rels isn't mafia is the fact that rayn was the NK target. Like why would Rels target rayn if he's hardcore defending him. It would've made more sense to kill you or me
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 11 2017 16:44 GMT
#1103
On April 11 2017 20:43 beentheredonethat wrote:
Simply based on the voting, it's Tumble or Rels. And I think it's Tumble over Rels.

There are some ifs:

1. Koshi yolo bussed
2. darthfoley bussed into afk Calix (given df has a lame 4 page filter, that might even be the case)
3. Rayn yolo bussed

that make us instantly lose the game I think.

More ifs:

1. Rels is scum (he didn't play at all so... yeah)
2. Tumbleweed's mindmeld was staged
3. sicklucker fake claimed into a all vt setup


So basically: lynch Tumblewood. If town, carefully consider Rels/(sicklucker vs. darthfoley in a tinfoil world).

That's where I'm at.
Given that Tumble continues to not have original thoughts and continues to drive-by post, I think it's the most likely scenario.



Koshi and Rayn would never yolo bus in this situation. They are good enough players to fabricate shit on someone else and at least give Calix one more day to improve her situation in the town. It doesn't make sense for anyone who voted for Calix except Rels to bus Calix. The votes were 4-2-2 and could've easily consolidated elsewhere if mafia were strong players/early bussers and wanted it to.

Idk why my filter length has anything to do with your read on me when it doesn't seem to factor into either Tumblewood or Rels. I'm also unsure as to why your #1 "if" is Rels is scum yet your conclusion is lynch Tumblewood?? Your whole argument for why Tumblewood is mafia

Given that Tumble continues to not have original thoughts and continues to drive-by post, I think it's the most likely scenario.


is literally Rels 100% of the time in this game. Why is TW more likely mafia than Rels?

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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 11 2017 16:49 GMT
#1108
On April 12 2017 01:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2017 01:36 darthfoley wrote:
On April 11 2017 21:00 Koshi wrote:
I do not know why Rels is not the lynch tomorrow.

Sicklucker is obviously doctor, or he did an insane play to secure him lylo. In this game mafia doesn't know the setup, so if this is a vt setup he gambled on that and then gambled on not being coutnerclaimed???? Are you all dense or am I wrong about the setup? I didn't read the op.

rayn can't be mafia because while I threw the ball, he made the alley hoop. or w.e that is called. And then during night he decides to not kill anybody while he isn't sure there is a doc so he might get docsaved and then be confirmed? Even more confirmed than he already is??? Are you fuckers for real?

So everybody should have at least 3 superconfirmed townies himself included.


Who is left for me:
Rels
Tumble
btdt
df

For me the obvious choice is Rels. Didn't do shit, and just gained cred when it was cool. Go lynch that fucker.
Darthfoley played well if he is mafia. Cherry picked what he posted and made them incredible.
Tumble most likely is town. Read rayn his posts on why. He is just playing like he always plays. Weird or not understandable does NOT equal scum. Not now, not ever.
btdt is possibly mafia due to interactions with Calix and bad posts. But he is not mafia due to activity and emotions. So he is not mafia and should not be considered in the next 2 lynches. Or do we lose after 3ml? I don't know.


So lynch Rels
Then look at how clean dartholey is
Then look at how messed up Tumble and btdt are and pick one in lylo. Hopefully I am there and not sicklucker.



Also protip to btdt and tumble: Stop calling each other mafia because you don't understand the other person his playstyle. It's dumb.


My only qualm as to why Rels isn't mafia is the fact that rayn was the NK target. Like why would Rels target rayn if he's hardcore defending him. It would've made more sense to kill you or me

cuz rayn can figure shit out. I noticed last game. It took him till D4 but it happened
I think rayn is an OK night kill for Rels to make. Especially because Rels maybe not have seen me play. Because I was afk the time he was here. And was going to be afk for another 48 hours.

So yeah. rayn was an ok kill.


Oh right the whole "i'm gonna be AFK for 96 hours and then catch up" thing. Hmm. I feel like everything else Rels has done is just filler/buying himself time.

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 07 2017 17:47 Rels wrote:
I swear I will play at some point.


On April 08 2017 05:52 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 04:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey Rels not many town slots left. What did you roll? ^^

This game really looks it's gonna be easy (= I'm at exactly the same reads at that page (=


On April 08 2017 20:05 Rels wrote:
yeah I'm gonna spend most of today playing Battlerite. BTW you should come play at some point it's a fucking good game


On April 08 2017 22:05 Rels wrote:
kinda. Playing at the same time so there might be long times between posts


On April 10 2017 20:40 Rels wrote:
Shape's filter doesn't hit me as super scummy by itself. But he's the only logical answer.



Rels' filter is absolute cringe.

On April 10 2017 22:26 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2017 22:24 sicklucker wrote:
well thats not very fun see you in the next day

so you think the game is not over in the next day ?


I also don't understand this question at all. Rels' 1.3 posts this whole game were about how SL is town and Shapelog is mafia even though he's not scummy. Then this question that sounds accusatory (implying SL has TMI somehow?) towards his biggest TR... when the dude has claimed doc.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 11 2017 16:52 GMT
#1110
On April 12 2017 01:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Did Shapelog have 2 votes when Rels voted?


Nope. Here's the sequence

+ Show Spoiler +


On April 08 2017 01:36 Hapahauli wrote:
Vote-or-die:


Calix (2) - Koshi, darthfoley
Tumblewood (1) - beentheredonethat
Rels (1) - Tumblewood
Sicklucker (1) - raynpelikoneet
beentheredonethat (1) - sicklucker

Not Voting (3) - Calix, Rels, Shapelog

Whoever has the most votes at the end of the day (plurality) will be lynched.
Only votes in the voting thread will count.

The day will end in at 01:30 GMT (+00:00).


On April 08 2017 03:17 Shapelog wrote:
#Vote: Tumblewood


On April 08 2017 04:02 Tumblewood wrote:
##unvote
##vote shapelog


On April 08 2017 04:19 Tumblewood wrote:
##unvote
##vote rels


On April 08 2017 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Calix


On April 08 2017 06:28 Rels wrote:
##Vote Calix


On April 08 2017 06:54 sicklucker wrote:
#unvote
##vote shapelog


On April 08 2017 07:38 Hapahauli wrote:
Vote-or-die:


Calix (4) - Koshi, darthfoley, raynpelikoneet, Rels
Tumblewood (2) - beentheredonethat, Shapelog
Rels (1) - Tumblewood
Shapelog (1) - sicklucker

Not Voting (1) - Calix

Whoever has the most votes at the end of the day (plurality) will be lynched.
Only votes in the voting thread will count.

The day will end in at 01:30 GMT (+00:00).


On April 08 2017 09:36 Tumblewood wrote:
##unvote
##vote shapelog

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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 11 2017 16:54 GMT
#1111
When Rels voted for Calix it was

3 Calix
2 TW (TR by basically all of Calix wagon at the time)
1 Rels
1 Shapelog
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 12 2017 19:16 GMT
#1160
On April 12 2017 21:41 Koshi wrote:
Rels can you type up some words around the case I quoted from Shape on you?


why did you vote for Tumble? Rels keeps saying he's gonna come in and play the game and he hasn't done jack shit
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 12 2017 19:16 GMT
#1161
##vote: Rels
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 13 2017 04:40 GMT
#1205
why are the two suspected mafia only mafia reading one other person?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 13 2017 05:32 GMT
#1206
On April 13 2017 08:06 Koshi wrote:
Nha I am out.

You fucking suck ass Rels.


I don't understand why you went 0 to 100 within like 3 posts.

+ Show Spoiler +
fake rage Koshi? Don't do this to me man
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 13 2017 17:42 GMT
#1242
the last page was rather cancerous
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 14 2017 03:19 GMT
#1249
Mr. Tumblewood
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 14 2017 03:20 GMT
#1250
We have a nice plea deal we can offer you
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 14 2017 03:21 GMT
#1251
I can't wait for the post game flame from rayn
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 14 2017 19:45 GMT
#1260
On April 14 2017 16:30 Koshi wrote:
I could actually doubt it is TW but w.e. Let's lynch him I guess


This doesn't inspire me with confidence
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 14 2017 19:54 GMT
#1261
Why are btdt and Koshi lamenting how it might not be TW but that they have to lynch him? What is forcing you to have to do that?

Also btdt why does Koshi bussing feel fucked up? I just don't understand the language behind that. You're basically conceding a loss if Koshi bussed. Idk i just don't understand the recent play in the thread. Like SL and I seem to be the only ones considering any possibilities outside of TW. Feels especially "fucked up" considering scum!Koshi or scum!btdt only need one ML to win.
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 14 2017 19:55 GMT
#1262
On April 14 2017 17:11 Tumblewood wrote:
I'd put it at like 80% Koshi 20% df. just read through df's filter and there really isn't anything scummy at all but idk it could be him
probably not though. gotta give it the old college try with koshi


So you're still committed to btdt and SL being town?
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 15 2017 16:49 GMT
#1291
Targeting SL makes no sense from Tumblewood's perspective tbh. PoE it has to be btdt unless SL is god tier mafia
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 15 2017 16:50 GMT
#1292
Like I don't see how scum!Tumblewood ever kills SL there
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darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8003 Posts
April 15 2017 16:51 GMT
#1293
##vote: beentheredonethat
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