|
On April 07 2017 15:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well we agree on Calix at the moment and BTDT is discussed.
What about Shapelog?
How he entered the thread made me think he was mafia with Calix. Something to do with being close to the truth, but taking the "wrong" conclusion, and when pushed towards the "correct" conclusion, being combative about it.
Problem is that I do not know for certain what right and wrong is. But this also works when right is wrong and wrong is right.
|
On April 07 2017 15:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh yeah and Tunblewood, do you still think he's town?
Shape and Tumble are prime suspects if Calix is town. Not sure if both are mafia tbh, as they are both defended Calix and that would make no sense. But one could very easily be. Very easily.
|
On April 07 2017 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2017 04:04 darthfoley wrote:On April 06 2017 22:37 Shapelog wrote:Alright, here where I stand with the conversation between Calix and BTDT. For Calix side, the following makes me think they are more town then scum when I look at this part. On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.
Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol. I personally think that if Calix was scum, they would of not posted this. It would make sense for Scum!Calix to keep on BTDT as to have a excuse to post, and also because of the what apparently happen with a misunderstanding last game. I do acknowledge that Calix could be backing off here as scum due to a lack of footing on BTDT, but I expect that they would keep on for later credit of being active D1 or even for being on BTDT/Ryan later on if either got into negative light. Moreover, BTDT was more in the mood of keeping the fight going on. Which would allow scum!calix to hide in what would prob. develop into a shitfight with BTDT for getting pass d1. However, I personally do not see anything I really like in calix's points. Some I dont really understand the way calix talks (I.E. calix posts kinda feel a bit circlejerking? If that makes sense, prob doesnt). Also, I do feel as there should be more from calix if they are town and though something about BTDT is scummy. I don't get the stance of "waiting to question you" at all either. But doesn't feel like calix is at the stage of mafia discrediting that is usually happening at this stage of the game hmmm. I will say that I would rank calix a bit above null into the town lean range b/c while I do not understand calix overall stance, I think the clear out looks more town then mafia in my eyes. Flipsid3, I think BTDT also displayed similar actions regarding koshi's meta point and not voting calix. His posts dont feel like he is being pressured in my eyes, and seems more of him trying to figure out calixs point while being mad at calix logic. One could state that he is being pretty agressive in a way, but I just chop it up to him as taking a stance at figuring out the game. Don't really have a issue with him right now. More towny then Calix and working his way up to a town lean So I stand corrected in that Shape did post some "reads" but I find this post to be so confusing for such a relatively simple read explanation. I also think it's odd that Shape says btdt is more towny than Calix but has spent a considerable amount of thread capital defending Calix imo. It just feels off. The time I lost to scum!Shapelog was when he did posts like this that were super convoluted and I lost motivation to read them after 3 sentences. That's kinda how I feel so far with his play. A few town reads, meh scum reads (including a couple "this is weird, this is off" type sentences @ thanks ritoky for the guidance) and posts like this that are kind of semi-serious but maybe not really that seem like ez hedging opportunities later on to say "well that was just a joke" or "that was actually serious!" On April 06 2017 23:46 Shapelog wrote: Tah dah, countered your 'point' in ten seconds. Try again. I kinda want to scumread you b/c of the cockiness of this so it will go down  . In my experience, Calix is a cocky bugger no matter her alignment, so I don't know what her tone has to do with the price of eggs. On the Flipsid3, I agree that Koshi's "clear" of Tumble is super premature imo; feels quite a bit like what he did last scum game when he "cleared" Calix very early on and then NK'd her. I think this is one of the best posts in the thread (Shapelog part at least) and sums up my thoughts on Shapelog.
Yeah darthfoley made 2-3 good posts already and is being the best player in the game atm.
|
On April 07 2017 15:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Where did your townread on him come from in the first place (Tumble)?
His opening post. The last sentence.
It was a good summary of what happened. But the last sentence looked so clean.
"I am not sure it makes him mafia, but he is now in my crosshairs"
something like that.
On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 19:47 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 19:45 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 19:44 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 16:25 Koshi wrote:
Hey rayn, if you don't mind, I am going for a -20 posts D1, 2-3 posts N1, 5 posts D2 and 2 posts N2. Well, unless mafia shoots me like they did the last 5 nights I was alive.
I will read the first 36 hours of the game and give my opinion. With some luck it is different than the last time. Koshi please don't say such things they feel scummy How is that post scummy? "I will do [whatever]" is always scummy. Don't promise, do. this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen - btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise - (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game) - btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise) - btdt does not push koshi but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now
Ok it is different than what I remember. But I just liked the post when I read it. But I can be wrong on this one. I realized that quickly.
|
On April 06 2017 23:57 beentheredonethat wrote:So trying to get this straight: Koshi says, Calix is scum because * Calix has engaged in a bad conversation with me without direction * in a bad conversation with ?? without direction * in a bad conversation with ?? without direction + Show Spoiler [post in question] +On April 06 2017 23:16 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 22:46 Shapelog wrote:Also Koshi, On April 06 2017 21:54 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. btdt is town. You are more likely not.
Progress was made. What did you see in the vs. other than not understanding her? The post you use to call Calix town, I disagree, for me that post came too much out of the blue and I do not understand why she wanted to stop the shitfight there. I like btdt more atm because he kept going after Calix called for a truce. I also dont see what Calix has achieved so far. 3 bad conversations without direction. Too much sucking up to rayn. Too agressive in her tone. I think she is mafia. I mean yes, I agree with the whole aggressiveness. This is what struck out to me when she called me out on not voting Koshi, it just felt super-aggressive but I can see this coming from ballsy Calix willing to get the game going. Then again the "oh misunderstanding" thing - wouldn't value that too high, it's kinda weird but town does weird things imho. Right now I'm not down for a Calix lynch. I've heard people say that activitiy alone is not alignment indicative but right now I'm not willing to lynch a player that's actually talking. I'm also not willing to let go of my Koshi feelings. Still feels a lot like drive-by-mafia-koshi but I'd need to actually dig through his town games and compare stuff which tbh I'm not down to right now. Maybe later but I don't think so. I like Shape but that's gut feeling.
On April 07 2017 00:53 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2017 00:52 Koshi wrote:
Tumble is obvious town.
Tumble pls explain your mindmeld pls. asdjalkdjlkjasökldjasldkj really I was already in a tumble and calix are scum but then you do that 100% safe townread for which exact reasons?
I also don't like the last post. It felt bad.
|
1) It is inconsistent with his previous reads.
2) I didn't feel that at all when TW entered.
3) Why the fuck is my TW townread so important to him? He doesn't townread me.
|
Yeah the extra smashing the keyboard out of frustration letters triggered me.
|
On April 07 2017 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Does Calix have to call out that btdt post on sl if they're both mafia?
I am not sure. It started with btdt saying he found my entrance scummy and then Calix jumping on that... And then it became something ugly. I don't think the conversation in itself was impossible to be mafia on mafia. It had odd moments.
|
On April 07 2017 16:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2017 16:02 Koshi wrote:On April 07 2017 15:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Does Calix have to call out that btdt post on sl if they're both mafia? I am not sure. It started with btdt saying he found my entrance scummy and then Calix jumping on that... And then it became something ugly. I don't think the conversation in itself was impossible to be mafia on mafia. It had odd moments. Well the main thing that makes it not-so-hard-to-fake is that it ends up in... nothing. 
Yeah agreed, and in the middle of the conversation they already established that ending a couple times.
"Why are you going after me"
"I am not going after you, I just find you always scummy"
"You scumread me"
"I don't scumread you at all"
It was weird.
|
And Calix wanting the abort and delete the conversation so many times. Like 3 times but btdt kept asking and she answered with a "pls leave me alone" reply.
haha. kinda funny to read.
|
On April 06 2017 20:35 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 20:33 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 20:30 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 20:26 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 20:18 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 20:10 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 20:06 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 20:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
Do you think it's worth pushing, Calix? No, I don't. But that's not the point. You clearly think it is. Why does it matter what I think then? Can you not pretend I "clearly" think it is and consider the sentence that comes right after "I think it's worth a push"? Can you also think about why I put "I think" in front of "It's worth a push"? Normally, that means that a person wants to imply a certain level of uncertainty about something. We're both town, right? So we want to help each other out by judging each other's thoughts. So you can either pick up what I say and drop your own opinion, or you can go after me because I do not place a vote on the very first maybe pushable thing that I find when the game is three pages and some hours in. Yes, and if you're uncertain on something then you generally question/ pressure that person so they clarify the issue. I am wondering why you wouldn't want to push Koshi when your posts were going in that direction and I'm still not sure what the hesitation is for. I am not 'going after you' either, actually. I generally find you scummy so I am trying not to jump down your throat here, lol. And how am I supposed to question Koshi on his, like, three posts? I've pointed out what I didn't like, and depending on his reaction to that, I'll continue to go after him or not. Why are you scumreading me for going after something I find scummy? Pretty simple. You just ask basic shit like "why did you decide to announce this playstyle after you got your role?" (as an example) and go from there. Where did I say I was scum-reading you? I said "I generally find you scummy" which is not the same thing. And the entire conversation we're having is that you AREN'T going after something you find scummy O_o You're not making much sense. Wait, so "It's worth a push" does mean "I will vote Koshi now" in your understanding, but you ask me to differentiate between "I find you scummy" and "I am scum-reading you"? The conversation we have is about what it is because you chose to pressure me about why I am not voting Koshi instead of simply reviewing what I said and commenting on it. You're, again, constructing shit to push me. "I find you GENERALLY scummy" is what I said. Found the problem. You're misinterpreting that as me specifically finding you scummy in this game when I was trying to say that I find your playstyle scummy. I hope that clears things up.
On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.
Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol.
On April 06 2017 21:05 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 21:02 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.
Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol. Am I dumb or scummy? Since we established where the problem was, dumb 
On April 06 2017 21:23 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 21:15 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 21:05 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 21:02 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.
Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol. Am I dumb or scummy? Since we established where the problem was, dumb But what changed your stance on me then? I mean you said you find me scummy and I thought it's because I say "pushworthy" while not voting Koshi. What made you dropping that? I thought we already covered that I was talking about your play-style. You said "I didn't want to vote on something push-worthy 3 hours into the game" and that you weren't sure how to question his initial posts so I did not see the point of questioning you further when that would distract you from scum-hunting Koshi.
|
I also don't know the word but yeah... she is different.
|
On April 07 2017 17:16 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2017 17:10 sicklucker wrote:
Sicklucker
Tumbleweed
calix
koshi
Darthfoley
Rayn
shapelog
beentheredonethat
rels
No. beentheredone
raynpelikoneet
Darthfoley
Calix
Koshi
shapelog
Sicklucker
rels
On April 07 2017 00:53 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2017 00:52 Koshi wrote:
Tumble is obvious town.
Tumble pls explain your mindmeld pls. asdjalkdjlkjasökldjasldkj really I was already in a tumble and calix are scum but then you do that 100% safe townread for which exact reasons?
What happened?
|
That Calix read makes no fucking sense what so ever btdt. You townread darth for scumreading Calix. You are "scumreading" Calix 24/7. And now she is perfect null? Perfect null???????
|
I think btdt his list is so much worse.
He wanted to lynch so many people yesterday, now there are 2 full greens.
He was on TW and Calix yesterday. Now one is missing and one is perfect null.
If he went 100% green on rayn from yesterday to now, why is he not 100% green on me? What did I do wrong in the conversation I had with rayn? Because he townreads rayn for that conversation, but scumreads me?
etc
etc
Like... That is one fucking bad list.
|
On April 07 2017 17:45 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2017 17:43 Koshi wrote:
I think btdt his list is so much worse.
He wanted to lynch so many people yesterday, now there are 2 full greens.
He was on TW and Calix yesterday. Now one is missing and one is perfect null.
If he went 100% green on rayn from yesterday to now, why is he not 100% green on me? What did I do wrong in the conversation I had with rayn? Because he townreads rayn for that conversation, but scumreads me?
etc
etc
Like... That is one fucking bad list. ya can we like lynch my target? I dont think my target has ever been lynched once dispite me being right most of the time. Maybe that one time on super
We could. But in the Calix/btdt exchange I liked btdt more.
|
On April 07 2017 17:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like why the fuck would you, if you think i am just doing some dumb shit (possibly) just for the sake of doing dumb shit do this:
"Well you're wrong again dude so staph" instead of "why the fuck are you doing this? are you scum?"
You literally deserve -912873 points if you did that as town.
He once got 50 points for harddefending a mafia all game and calling me retarded & shit while I was on both mafia D2.
|
Could you and btdt please talk about what rayn & I talked about? Shape, btdt and Calix.
|
If Rels is town it might be a good way to set us up for day 2. But I am not convinced it is the most likely mafia hit out of the pool. Always a good lynch though.
|
On April 07 2017 18:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2017 17:53 sicklucker wrote:
like I was so fucking townie what choice did you have. but now your going crazy again. honestly your so random. Im a very random mafia player myself so I kind of see that as possible mafia playz Koshi you seriously think this is what sicklucker thinks of me as when i am mafia?
sicklucker is sicklucker. Do not apply logic.
Read the people on which you can actually apply logic. And then bother with sicklucker.
I am telling you. I was 100% convinced on 2 mafia reads last game, and the guy (sicklucker) made me so mad I removed a certain mafia read and mafia read him instead. Then he claimed doctor DURING the night. Still didn't get shot ofc.
And then endgame received 50 points.
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
