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On April 08 2017 04:07 beentheredonethat wrote:
What's really bad though is that Tumblewood says that Shapelog bugs him. That's exactly how I would express my current stance on him, he's a bit too nice to be real, isn't he.
Koshi let go of pressuring me, too. Ironically enough that bothers me, too. He's also not really convincing anyone of doing a thing. And the 96 hours absence really bothers me; not a big fan. If I'd be a host, I'd pretty much try to get a replacement or modkill since my voting law says "mandatory to vote". I don't know how Koshi will not be dead after let's say 48+24 hours.
Koshi why did you sign up if you knew you'd be gone for so long?
Already asked him but I think he is with his lover
This is me btw trying to figure out wtf just happen with tumble:
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On April 08 2017 04:26 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2017 04:18 Tumblewood wrote:
shiiiiiit all my vote logic falls apart unless we know what alignment rels is
I could believe 6/7 people posting are town
tomorrow isnt the point of voting logic figuring out people's alignment based off the votes? Regardless if rels votes or not or knowing his alignment, Why cant you do vote logic?
I think you can usually figure out whether the lynch is on town or scum in the hour before, based on wagon logic
if there is only one active scum that goes down the drain
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On April 08 2017 04:51 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2017 04:26 Shapelog wrote:On April 08 2017 04:18 Tumblewood wrote:
shiiiiiit all my vote logic falls apart unless we know what alignment rels is
I could believe 6/7 people posting are town
tomorrow isnt the point of voting logic figuring out people's alignment based off the votes? Regardless if rels votes or not or knowing his alignment, Why cant you do vote logic? I think you can usually figure out whether the lynch is on town or scum in the hour before, based on wagon logic if there is only one active scum that goes down the drain
I disagree strongly,
Yes you typically can guess one hour before flip in some cases, but in this one. We only have 2 mafia. So if Rels is mafia, there is still one mafia who is either afk OR actively misleading town.
If you assume that Rels is mafia, and suspect one person is actively misleading town, then you still have one person actively misleading town. The fact that Rel's is afk makes no difference to the fact that that person is still messing up town. Therefore, you can still do voting logic I.E. looking at when someone vote. Who took what wagon etc.
Saying you cant find the other person (or I guess in your case, make more points against me) is far from reality.
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EWOP:
Saying you cant use it to find the other person [...]
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On April 08 2017 05:01 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2017 04:51 Tumblewood wrote:On April 08 2017 04:26 Shapelog wrote:On April 08 2017 04:18 Tumblewood wrote:
shiiiiiit all my vote logic falls apart unless we know what alignment rels is
I could believe 6/7 people posting are town
tomorrow isnt the point of voting logic figuring out people's alignment based off the votes? Regardless if rels votes or not or knowing his alignment, Why cant you do vote logic? I think you can usually figure out whether the lynch is on town or scum in the hour before, based on wagon logic if there is only one active scum that goes down the drain I disagree strongly, Yes you typically can guess one hour before flip in some cases, but in this one. We only have 2 mafia. So if Rels is mafia, there is still one mafia who is either afk OR actively misleading town. If you assume that Rels is mafia, and suspect one person is actively misleading town, then you still have one person actively misleading town. The fact that Rel's is afk makes no difference to the fact that that person is still messing up town. Therefore, you can still do voting logic I.E. looking at when someone vote. Who took what wagon etc. Saying you cant find the other person (or I guess in your case, make more points against me) is far from reality.
if rels is mafia then the mafia have as much thread pull as one townie. they cannot really decide wagons. if there are two active mafia, they can work together to make sure the lynch is neither of them, and unless they fold hard (unlikely given the quality of players) that will probably be true at deadline. unfortunately I can't make a read based on that if there is a 25% chance it's not true
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On April 08 2017 05:03 Shapelog wrote:
EWOP:
Saying you cant use it to find the other person [...]
the point is not to find the other person. (not before the flip, anyway.) the point is I feel super badass whenever I use wagon logic to call a lynch, and theoretically we could even switch off town to scum
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On April 08 2017 05:06 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2017 05:01 Shapelog wrote:On April 08 2017 04:51 Tumblewood wrote:On April 08 2017 04:26 Shapelog wrote:On April 08 2017 04:18 Tumblewood wrote:
shiiiiiit all my vote logic falls apart unless we know what alignment rels is
I could believe 6/7 people posting are town
tomorrow isnt the point of voting logic figuring out people's alignment based off the votes? Regardless if rels votes or not or knowing his alignment, Why cant you do vote logic? I think you can usually figure out whether the lynch is on town or scum in the hour before, based on wagon logic if there is only one active scum that goes down the drain I disagree strongly, Yes you typically can guess one hour before flip in some cases, but in this one. We only have 2 mafia. So if Rels is mafia, there is still one mafia who is either afk OR actively misleading town. If you assume that Rels is mafia, and suspect one person is actively misleading town, then you still have one person actively misleading town. The fact that Rel's is afk makes no difference to the fact that that person is still messing up town. Therefore, you can still do voting logic I.E. looking at when someone vote. Who took what wagon etc. Saying you cant find the other person (or I guess in your case, make more points against me) is far from reality. if rels is mafia then the mafia have as much thread pull as one townie. they cannot really decide wagons. if there are two active mafia, they can work together to make sure the lynch is neither of them, and unless they fold hard (unlikely given the quality of players) that will probably be true at deadline. unfortunately I can't make a read based on that if there is a 25% chance it's not true
Too each their own i suppose. I personally consider other factors as the mafia being town read and having townies on their side in the thread and the abilty to lead a sole counter wagon during EoD due to cred or just through a townies mistake, etc. And even with one person, a idea can spread and infect other townies given a few hours of set up.
Do you have any reads other than the ones you stated already?
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On April 08 2017 05:09 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2017 05:03 Shapelog wrote:
EWOP:
Saying you cant use it to find the other person [...] the point is not to find the other person. (not before the flip, anyway.) the point is I feel super badass whenever I use wagon logic to call a lynch, and theoretically we could even switch off town to scum
Are we just talking about wagon logic or Voting logic? Bc when you say voting logic my mind goes to VCA and that jazz?
Also fighting over glory?
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On April 08 2017 05:13 Shapelog wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2017 05:09 Tumblewood wrote:On April 08 2017 05:03 Shapelog wrote:
EWOP:
Saying you cant use it to find the other person [...] the point is not to find the other person. (not before the flip, anyway.) the point is I feel super badass whenever I use wagon logic to call a lynch, and theoretically we could even switch off town to scum Are we just talking about wagon logic or Voting logic? Bc when you say voting logic my mind goes to VCA and that jazz? Also fighting over glory?
wagon logic. like, "are the people one this wagon good," and, "are they town," and, "how strongly do they believe in it"
(and the glory thing is why I like doing it. also because votes are less nebulous than tone)
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have no qualms about lynching
rels
(shape)
have some qualms about lynching
sl
koshi
(calix)
not lynching today
df
rayn
btdt
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yo finally free! Gotta read those pages now
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On April 08 2017 05:15 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2017 05:13 Shapelog wrote:On April 08 2017 05:09 Tumblewood wrote:On April 08 2017 05:03 Shapelog wrote:
EWOP:
Saying you cant use it to find the other person [...] the point is not to find the other person. (not before the flip, anyway.) the point is I feel super badass whenever I use wagon logic to call a lynch, and theoretically we could even switch off town to scum Are we just talking about wagon logic or Voting logic? Bc when you say voting logic my mind goes to VCA and that jazz? Also fighting over glory? wagon logic. like, "are the people one this wagon good," and, "are they town," and, "how strongly do they believe in it" (and the glory thing is why I like doing it. also because votes are less nebulous than tone)
ok then. You said voting logic originally.
On April 08 2017 05:18 Tumblewood wrote:
have no qualms about lynching
rels
(shape)
have some qualms about lynching
sl
koshi
(calix)
not lynching today
df
rayn
btdt
Are the bold town leans or?
and:
Can you explain the reason why you are voting Rels other then what I assume is afk reasons?
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oh hey it's rels
(what would I possibly be voting him for other than afkness?)
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On April 08 2017 05:23 Rels wrote:
yo finally free! Gotta read those pages now
Ça t'a pris suffisamment longtemps. Donnez-moi toutes ces lectures >:D
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On April 08 2017 05:26 Tumblewood wrote:
oh hey it's rels
(what would I possibly be voting him for other than afkness?)
Well i didnt know if you had a reason for voting him before the halfway point (or right before it) or what not.
Bc you really were ok with auto booting him then before time had pass to start worrying imo.
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Seema like i have to fo something since i cant understand whats going on in this game.
We are lynching Calix. Do not trust Shapelog on anything because Shapelog is probably mafia. He is interested in talking about anything that is not Calix.See how he just dodges talking properly about Calix in every single occasion.
Tumblewood is town and we are not lynching him. Neither are we lynching btdt. You two, you really cant see whats going on here?
##unvote
##vote Calix
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On April 08 2017 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Seema like i have to fo something since i cant understand whats going on in this game.
We are lynching Calix. Do not trust Shapelog on anything because Shapelog is probably mafia. He is interested in talking about anything that is not Calix.See how he just dodges talking properly about Calix in every single occasion.
Tumblewood is town and we are not lynching him. Neither are we lynching btdt. You two, you really cant see whats going on here?
##unvote
##vote Calix
How have I been dodging her?
Doesnt that go against the sediment that I been defending her as well?
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On April 08 2017 05:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Seema like i have to fo something since i cant understand whats going on in this game.
We are lynching Calix. Do not trust Shapelog on anything because Shapelog is probably mafia. He is interested in talking about anything that is not Calix.See how he just dodges talking properly about Calix in every single occasion.
Tumblewood is town and we are not lynching him. Neither are we lynching btdt. You two, you really cant see whats going on here?
##unvote
##vote Calix
Yea I haven't seen anything to switch my vote tbh. I find this entire day pretty reminiscent of scum!Eden just afk'ing.
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As long as one of Calix/Tumblewood is lynched today I will be happy.
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On April 08 2017 05:42 Shapelog wrote:
As long as one of Calix/Tumblewood is lynched today I will be happy.
Whats an updated Shapelog reads list?
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