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On April 07 2017 15:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The only reason i would add him back to null is that he seemed like he was clearly working on figuring players alignments (which i townread him for) and then he decided to throw all the town credit into trash by saying he could lynch like 7 people in the game... In other words - no progression at all.
EXACTLY!!! That post was horrible. Exactly for that post I read his filter and concluded it was too prudent.
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But i am not sure if it makes him mafia.
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On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?
Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc.
This is a really weird post btw. I didn't post anything yet at this point so if my opening post was not mafia, I do not understand why she says the bolded.
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On April 07 2017 15:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But i am not sure if it makes him mafia.
No not really. But he is one to watch.
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Well we agree on Calix at the moment and BTDT is discussed.
What about Shapelog?
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Oh yeah and Tunblewood, do you still think he's town?
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On April 07 2017 15:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well we agree on Calix at the moment and BTDT is discussed.
What about Shapelog?
How he entered the thread made me think he was mafia with Calix. Something to do with being close to the truth, but taking the "wrong" conclusion, and when pushed towards the "correct" conclusion, being combative about it.
Problem is that I do not know for certain what right and wrong is. But this also works when right is wrong and wrong is right.
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On April 07 2017 04:04 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 22:37 Shapelog wrote:Alright, here where I stand with the conversation between Calix and BTDT. For Calix side, the following makes me think they are more town then scum when I look at this part. On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.
Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol. I personally think that if Calix was scum, they would of not posted this. It would make sense for Scum!Calix to keep on BTDT as to have a excuse to post, and also because of the what apparently happen with a misunderstanding last game. I do acknowledge that Calix could be backing off here as scum due to a lack of footing on BTDT, but I expect that they would keep on for later credit of being active D1 or even for being on BTDT/Ryan later on if either got into negative light. Moreover, BTDT was more in the mood of keeping the fight going on. Which would allow scum!calix to hide in what would prob. develop into a shitfight with BTDT for getting pass d1. However, I personally do not see anything I really like in calix's points. Some I dont really understand the way calix talks (I.E. calix posts kinda feel a bit circlejerking? If that makes sense, prob doesnt). Also, I do feel as there should be more from calix if they are town and though something about BTDT is scummy. I don't get the stance of "waiting to question you" at all either. But doesn't feel like calix is at the stage of mafia discrediting that is usually happening at this stage of the game hmmm. I will say that I would rank calix a bit above null into the town lean range b/c while I do not understand calix overall stance, I think the clear out looks more town then mafia in my eyes. Flipsid3, I think BTDT also displayed similar actions regarding koshi's meta point and not voting calix. His posts dont feel like he is being pressured in my eyes, and seems more of him trying to figure out calixs point while being mad at calix logic. One could state that he is being pretty agressive in a way, but I just chop it up to him as taking a stance at figuring out the game. Don't really have a issue with him right now. More towny then Calix and working his way up to a town lean So I stand corrected in that Shape did post some "reads" but I find this post to be so confusing for such a relatively simple read explanation. I also think it's odd that Shape says btdt is more towny than Calix but has spent a considerable amount of thread capital defending Calix imo. It just feels off. The time I lost to scum!Shapelog was when he did posts like this that were super convoluted and I lost motivation to read them after 3 sentences. That's kinda how I feel so far with his play. A few town reads, meh scum reads (including a couple "this is weird, this is off" type sentences @ thanks ritoky for the guidance) and posts like this that are kind of semi-serious but maybe not really that seem like ez hedging opportunities later on to say "well that was just a joke" or "that was actually serious!" Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 23:46 Shapelog wrote: Tah dah, countered your 'point' in ten seconds. Try again. I kinda want to scumread you b/c of the cockiness of this so it will go down  . In my experience, Calix is a cocky bugger no matter her alignment, so I don't know what her tone has to do with the price of eggs. On the Flipsid3, I agree that Koshi's "clear" of Tumble is super premature imo; feels quite a bit like what he did last scum game when he "cleared" Calix very early on and then NK'd her.
I think this is one of the best posts in the thread (Shapelog part at least) and sums up my thoughts on Shapelog.
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On April 07 2017 15:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh yeah and Tunblewood, do you still think he's town?
Shape and Tumble are prime suspects if Calix is town. Not sure if both are mafia tbh, as they are both defended Calix and that would make no sense. But one could very easily be. Very easily.
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Where did your townread on him come from in the first place (Tumble)?
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On April 07 2017 15:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2017 04:04 darthfoley wrote:On April 06 2017 22:37 Shapelog wrote:Alright, here where I stand with the conversation between Calix and BTDT. For Calix side, the following makes me think they are more town then scum when I look at this part. On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.
Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol. I personally think that if Calix was scum, they would of not posted this. It would make sense for Scum!Calix to keep on BTDT as to have a excuse to post, and also because of the what apparently happen with a misunderstanding last game. I do acknowledge that Calix could be backing off here as scum due to a lack of footing on BTDT, but I expect that they would keep on for later credit of being active D1 or even for being on BTDT/Ryan later on if either got into negative light. Moreover, BTDT was more in the mood of keeping the fight going on. Which would allow scum!calix to hide in what would prob. develop into a shitfight with BTDT for getting pass d1. However, I personally do not see anything I really like in calix's points. Some I dont really understand the way calix talks (I.E. calix posts kinda feel a bit circlejerking? If that makes sense, prob doesnt). Also, I do feel as there should be more from calix if they are town and though something about BTDT is scummy. I don't get the stance of "waiting to question you" at all either. But doesn't feel like calix is at the stage of mafia discrediting that is usually happening at this stage of the game hmmm. I will say that I would rank calix a bit above null into the town lean range b/c while I do not understand calix overall stance, I think the clear out looks more town then mafia in my eyes. Flipsid3, I think BTDT also displayed similar actions regarding koshi's meta point and not voting calix. His posts dont feel like he is being pressured in my eyes, and seems more of him trying to figure out calixs point while being mad at calix logic. One could state that he is being pretty agressive in a way, but I just chop it up to him as taking a stance at figuring out the game. Don't really have a issue with him right now. More towny then Calix and working his way up to a town lean So I stand corrected in that Shape did post some "reads" but I find this post to be so confusing for such a relatively simple read explanation. I also think it's odd that Shape says btdt is more towny than Calix but has spent a considerable amount of thread capital defending Calix imo. It just feels off. The time I lost to scum!Shapelog was when he did posts like this that were super convoluted and I lost motivation to read them after 3 sentences. That's kinda how I feel so far with his play. A few town reads, meh scum reads (including a couple "this is weird, this is off" type sentences @ thanks ritoky for the guidance) and posts like this that are kind of semi-serious but maybe not really that seem like ez hedging opportunities later on to say "well that was just a joke" or "that was actually serious!" On April 06 2017 23:46 Shapelog wrote: Tah dah, countered your 'point' in ten seconds. Try again. I kinda want to scumread you b/c of the cockiness of this so it will go down . In my experience, Calix is a cocky bugger no matter her alignment, so I don't know what her tone has to do with the price of eggs. On the Flipsid3, I agree that Koshi's "clear" of Tumble is super premature imo; feels quite a bit like what he did last scum game when he "cleared" Calix very early on and then NK'd her. I think this is one of the best posts in the thread (Shapelog part at least) and sums up my thoughts on Shapelog.
Yeah darthfoley made 2-3 good posts already and is being the best player in the game atm.
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On April 07 2017 15:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Where did your townread on him come from in the first place (Tumble)?
His opening post. The last sentence.
It was a good summary of what happened. But the last sentence looked so clean.
"I am not sure it makes him mafia, but he is now in my crosshairs"
something like that.
On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 19:47 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 19:45 Calix wrote:On April 06 2017 19:44 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 06 2017 16:25 Koshi wrote:
Hey rayn, if you don't mind, I am going for a -20 posts D1, 2-3 posts N1, 5 posts D2 and 2 posts N2. Well, unless mafia shoots me like they did the last 5 nights I was alive.
I will read the first 36 hours of the game and give my opinion. With some luck it is different than the last time. Koshi please don't say such things they feel scummy How is that post scummy? "I will do [whatever]" is always scummy. Don't promise, do. this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen - btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise - (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game) - btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise) - btdt does not push koshi but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now
Ok it is different than what I remember. But I just liked the post when I read it. But I can be wrong on this one. I realized that quickly.
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I liked his questioning on me on the sicklucker thing. Looked way better than Calix. Like from my opinion Tumblewood had an opinion of how things went and tried to tell me how things went instead of just throw shit. At least i thought so, but i'd still prefer him to answer me for the question i asked because that's something i don't understand.
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On April 06 2017 23:57 beentheredonethat wrote:So trying to get this straight: Koshi says, Calix is scum because * Calix has engaged in a bad conversation with me without direction * in a bad conversation with ?? without direction * in a bad conversation with ?? without direction + Show Spoiler [post in question] +On April 06 2017 23:16 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 22:46 Shapelog wrote:Also Koshi, On April 06 2017 21:54 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. btdt is town. You are more likely not.
Progress was made. What did you see in the vs. other than not understanding her? The post you use to call Calix town, I disagree, for me that post came too much out of the blue and I do not understand why she wanted to stop the shitfight there. I like btdt more atm because he kept going after Calix called for a truce. I also dont see what Calix has achieved so far. 3 bad conversations without direction. Too much sucking up to rayn. Too agressive in her tone. I think she is mafia. I mean yes, I agree with the whole aggressiveness. This is what struck out to me when she called me out on not voting Koshi, it just felt super-aggressive but I can see this coming from ballsy Calix willing to get the game going. Then again the "oh misunderstanding" thing - wouldn't value that too high, it's kinda weird but town does weird things imho. Right now I'm not down for a Calix lynch. I've heard people say that activitiy alone is not alignment indicative but right now I'm not willing to lynch a player that's actually talking. I'm also not willing to let go of my Koshi feelings. Still feels a lot like drive-by-mafia-koshi but I'd need to actually dig through his town games and compare stuff which tbh I'm not down to right now. Maybe later but I don't think so. I like Shape but that's gut feeling.
On April 07 2017 00:53 beentheredonethat wrote:Show nested quote +On April 07 2017 00:52 Koshi wrote:
Tumble is obvious town.
Tumble pls explain your mindmeld pls. asdjalkdjlkjasökldjasldkj really I was already in a tumble and calix are scum but then you do that 100% safe townread for which exact reasons?
I also don't like the last post. It felt bad.
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oh nevermind i missed his answer when i was engaged with sl convo.
Yeah Tumblewood can be town.
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1) It is inconsistent with his previous reads.
2) I didn't feel that at all when TW entered.
3) Why the fuck is my TW townread so important to him? He doesn't townread me.
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On April 07 2017 15:45 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 23:57 beentheredonethat wrote:So trying to get this straight: Koshi says, Calix is scum because * Calix has engaged in a bad conversation with me without direction * in a bad conversation with ?? without direction * in a bad conversation with ?? without direction + Show Spoiler [post in question] +On April 06 2017 23:16 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On April 06 2017 22:46 Shapelog wrote:Also Koshi, On April 06 2017 21:54 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. btdt is town. You are more likely not.
Progress was made. What did you see in the vs. other than not understanding her? The post you use to call Calix town, I disagree, for me that post came too much out of the blue and I do not understand why she wanted to stop the shitfight there. I like btdt more atm because he kept going after Calix called for a truce. I also dont see what Calix has achieved so far. 3 bad conversations without direction. Too much sucking up to rayn. Too agressive in her tone. I think she is mafia. I mean yes, I agree with the whole aggressiveness. This is what struck out to me when she called me out on not voting Koshi, it just felt super-aggressive but I can see this coming from ballsy Calix willing to get the game going. Then again the "oh misunderstanding" thing - wouldn't value that too high, it's kinda weird but town does weird things imho. Right now I'm not down for a Calix lynch. I've heard people say that activitiy alone is not alignment indicative but right now I'm not willing to lynch a player that's actually talking. I'm also not willing to let go of my Koshi feelings. Still feels a lot like drive-by-mafia-koshi but I'd need to actually dig through his town games and compare stuff which tbh I'm not down to right now. Maybe later but I don't think so. I like Shape but that's gut feeling. Show nested quote +On April 07 2017 00:53 beentheredonethat wrote:On April 07 2017 00:52 Koshi wrote:
Tumble is obvious town.
Tumble pls explain your mindmeld pls. asdjalkdjlkjasökldjasldkj really I was already in a tumble and calix are scum but then you do that 100% safe townread for which exact reasons? I also don't like the last post. It felt bad.
I don't understand?
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Oh okay yeah that makes sense.
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Yeah actually BTDT can go to scumpile unles he has a reasonable explanation for that. It makes very little sense, especially the Tumble flip-flop based on your read.
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Yeah the extra smashing the keyboard out of frustration letters triggered me.
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