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Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 13:42 GMT
#196
Also how about neither of you fuck off and post stuff?

I want to eat your posts!!!!
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 13:46 GMT
#197
Also Koshi,

On April 06 2017 21:54 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. btdt is town. You are more likely not.
Progress was made.


What did you see in the vs. other than not understanding her?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 14:21 GMT
#205
On April 06 2017 22:47 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 22:37 Shapelog wrote:
Alright, here where I stand with the conversation between Calix and BTDT.

For Calix side, the following makes me think they are more town then scum when I look at this part.
On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.

Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol.

I personally think that if Calix was scum, they would of not posted this. It would make sense for Scum!Calix to keep on BTDT as to have a excuse to post, and also because of the what apparently happen with a misunderstanding last game. I do acknowledge that Calix could be backing off here as scum due to a lack of footing on BTDT, but I expect that they would keep on for later credit of being active D1 or even for being on BTDT/Ryan later on if either got into negative light.

Moreover, BTDT was more in the mood of keeping the fight going on. Which would allow scum!calix to hide in what would prob. develop into a shitfight with BTDT for getting pass d1.

However, I personally do not see anything I really like in calix's points. Some I dont really understand the way calix talks (I.E. calix posts kinda feel a bit circlejerking? If that makes sense, prob doesnt). Also, I do feel as there should be more from calix if they are town and though something about BTDT is scummy. I don't get the stance of "waiting to question you" at all either.

But doesn't feel like calix is at the stage of mafia discrediting that is usually happening at this stage of the game hmmm.

I will say that I would rank calix a bit above null into the town lean range b/c while I do not understand calix overall stance, I think the clear out looks more town then mafia in my eyes.

Flipsid3, I think BTDT also displayed similar actions regarding koshi's meta point and not voting calix. His posts dont feel like he is being pressured in my eyes, and seems more of him trying to figure out calixs point while being mad at calix logic. One could state that he is being pretty agressive in a way, but I just chop it up to him as taking a stance at figuring out the game. Don't really have a issue with him right now.

More towny then Calix and working his way up to a town lean


What don't you like about the way I talk? lol

I felt like I was being clear when I was talking to BTDT about his actions re: Koshi and then his interpretation of my posts.

On BTDT, I don't follow how him being aggressive is scummy (as you seem to view it). And some of your points are vague (is the second sentence of BTDT's point -> town-lean? for one) but I think the analysis is good otherwise.


Idk, just reading your posts are hard in a way for me rofl.

It was kinda iffy here and there for me.

I didn't say him being aggressive is scummy. I say someone could say he is, but i see it as him " stance at figuring out the game."

I said also i think he seems more townie over all comparative to what i came to you (which was above null/townish) and he is working up to getting a townlean read from me.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 14:28 GMT
#212
On April 06 2017 23:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 22:46 Shapelog wrote:
Also Koshi,

On April 06 2017 21:54 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. btdt is town. You are more likely not.
Progress was made.


What did you see in the vs. other than not understanding her?

The post you use to call Calix town, I disagree, for me that post came too much out of the blue and I do not understand why she wanted to stop the shitfight there. I like btdt more atm because he kept going after Calix called for a truce.

I also dont see what Calix has achieved so far. 3 bad conversations without direction. Too much sucking up to rayn. Too agressive in her tone.

I think she is mafia.

Not really out of place since this was posted eariler:
On April 06 2017 20:35 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 20:33 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:30 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:26 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:18 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:10 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:06 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:03 beentheredonethat wrote:
Do you think it's worth pushing, Calix?


No, I don't.

But that's not the point.

You clearly think it is.

Why does it matter what I think then?

Can you not pretend I "clearly" think it is and consider the sentence that comes right after "I think it's worth a push"?

Can you also think about why I put "I think" in front of "It's worth a push"? Normally, that means that a person wants to imply a certain level of uncertainty about something. We're both town, right? So we want to help each other out by judging each other's thoughts. So you can either pick up what I say and drop your own opinion, or you can go after me because I do not place a vote on the very first maybe pushable thing that I find when the game is three pages and some hours in.



Yes, and if you're uncertain on something then you generally question/ pressure that person so they clarify the issue. I am wondering why you wouldn't want to push Koshi when your posts were going in that direction and I'm still not sure what the hesitation is for.

I am not 'going after you' either, actually. I generally find you scummy so I am trying not to jump down your throat here, lol.

And how am I supposed to question Koshi on his, like, three posts? I've pointed out what I didn't like, and depending on his reaction to that, I'll continue to go after him or not.

Why are you scumreading me for going after something I find scummy?


Pretty simple. You just ask basic shit like "why did you decide to announce this playstyle after you got your role?" (as an example) and go from there.

Where did I say I was scum-reading you? I said "I generally find you scummy" which is not the same thing. And the entire conversation we're having is that you AREN'T going after something you find scummy O_o

You're not making much sense.

Wait, so "It's worth a push" does mean "I will vote Koshi now" in your understanding, but you ask me to differentiate between "I find you scummy" and "I am scum-reading you"?

The conversation we have is about what it is because you chose to pressure me about why I am not voting Koshi instead of simply reviewing what I said and commenting on it. You're, again, constructing shit to push me.


"I find you GENERALLY scummy" is what I said.

Found the problem. You're misinterpreting that as me specifically finding you scummy in this game when I was trying to say that I find your playstyle scummy.

I hope that clears things up.

I.E. it looks like she figured out her prob with her.

She has some agressive tone in her, but only when she has a point she is looking for or questioning.

Agree with BTDT point

What posts is she sucking up to ryan? She was against the SL thought from ryan.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 14:35 GMT
#217
On April 06 2017 23:26 Koshi wrote:
I like to think town!Calix explains it once and then calls rayn out for the moron he is. Or calls him mafia.

You did something in between to stay on his good side. Well not even in between. Something different.

I dont really follow how that makes sense as she was one of the people to drive ryan to say people werent listening.

I dont remember calix meta
On April 06 2017 23:29 Koshi wrote:
Would suck if you are mafia with Calix shape

Cuz i have a different view on her ?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 14:36 GMT
#218
On April 06 2017 23:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 23:29 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 23:26 Koshi wrote:
I like to think town!Calix explains it once and then calls rayn out for the moron he is. Or calls him mafia.

You did something in between to stay on his good side. Well not even in between. Something different.


Oh goodie, you play a town game with me once and now you assume you know everything about my town play. The worst kind of player.

I wanted his thought process for why SL's point bullshit = mafia-indicative because as it stands, his current jump from "doesn't make sense" to "it's mafia" isn't transparent.

Maybe I am mafia. Do not forget that option!

Maybe im mafia with you and this was a epic plan that is working?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 14:40 GMT
#220
On April 06 2017 23:36 Calix wrote:
I'm pretty sure my first town-game on this site was me yelling obtusely at everyone for not having me as the most obvious town ever despite doing next-to-no "scum-hunting" until I died P:

Did I host that game?

All I remember is that 1 OMGUS game which I was Peewee Herman and disappeared for like 2 phases and lynched kush so that mafia would win.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 14:44 GMT
#223
On April 06 2017 23:41 Koshi wrote:
My point has nothing to do with meta.

Ok,

I still dont see it. If they wanted to suck up, while not agree with ryan? And if the answer to that is because perhaps scum!Calix suspected that ryan would be scumread or sus. for that, why not go more on it?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 14:46 GMT
#225
Tah dah, countered your 'point' in ten seconds. Try again.


I kinda want to scumread you b/c of the cockiness of this so it will go down .
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 14:53 GMT
#228
On April 06 2017 23:48 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 23:46 Shapelog wrote:
Tah dah, countered your 'point' in ten seconds. Try again.


I kinda want to scumread you b/c of the cockiness of this so it will go down .


That's just my charm and wit

But for real, none of these points are incisive or have merit.

What do you think though? You're around while Koshi and I argue but haven't said anything on him afaik.

Im trying to figure out his point lol. Hence why I haven't said much on him, plus I want to see where this goes.

She knows what rayn is saying is dumb shit that doesnt make sl mafia.

We are talking about her sucking up to ryan right?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 14:54 GMT
#229
I will say I've read his posts and gotten a idea about him, but
this is exciting
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 15:26 GMT
#234
On April 06 2017 23:54 Tumblewood wrote:
I feel like a broken clock but I've got a nice mindmeld/townread on calix

Go on?
On April 06 2017 23:57 beentheredonethat wrote:
So trying to get this straight:

Koshi says, Calix is scum because
* Calix has engaged in a bad conversation with me without direction
* in a bad conversation with ?? without direction
* in a bad conversation with ?? without direction

+ Show Spoiler [post in question] +
On April 06 2017 23:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 22:46 Shapelog wrote:
Also Koshi,

On April 06 2017 21:54 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. btdt is town. You are more likely not.
Progress was made.


What did you see in the vs. other than not understanding her?

The post you use to call Calix town, I disagree, for me that post came too much out of the blue and I do not understand why she wanted to stop the shitfight there. I like btdt more atm because he kept going after Calix called for a truce.

I also dont see what Calix has achieved so far. 3 bad conversations without direction. Too much sucking up to rayn. Too agressive in her tone.

I think she is mafia.


I mean yes, I agree with the whole aggressiveness. This is what struck out to me when she called me out on not voting Koshi, it just felt super-aggressive but I can see this coming from ballsy Calix willing to get the game going. Then again the "oh misunderstanding" thing - wouldn't value that too high, it's kinda weird but town does weird things imho.

Right now I'm not down for a Calix lynch. I've heard people say that activitiy alone is not alignment indicative but right now I'm not willing to lynch a player that's actually talking.

I'm also not willing to let go of my Koshi feelings. Still feels a lot like drive-by-mafia-koshi but I'd need to actually dig through his town games and compare stuff which tbh I'm not down to right now. Maybe later but I don't think so.

I like Shape but that's gut feeling.

And sucking up to ryan apparently?

So do you think im reading more into the misunderstanding/move on posts from her in my thought process on it?
You go do that meta thing. I'm fine looking at the game info lol.

I like Shape as well. I hope he wont get Nightkilled.
On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 19:47 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:45 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 16:25 Koshi wrote:
Hey rayn, if you don't mind, I am going for a -20 posts D1, 2-3 posts N1, 5 posts D2 and 2 posts N2. Well, unless mafia shoots me like they did the last 5 nights I was alive.

I will read the first 36 hours of the game and give my opinion. With some luck it is different than the last time.

Koshi please don't say such things they feel scummy


How is that post scummy?

"I will do [whatever]" is always scummy. Don't promise, do.

this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen
- btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise
- (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game)
- btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise)
- btdt does not push koshi
but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now

So your where calix is hence the mind meld comment?
On April 07 2017 00:09 Calix wrote:
My main problem with Koshi right now is how we had to drag out this conversation just to get to these points because he wasn't cooperating. And the points were not even that good in the end. It didn't do anything but fill space with an argument that doesn't add up and is uncharitable.

I am still unable to see how he read my posts and concluded "she's trying to keep on rayn's good side".

But then again, going about his read in this manner draws a lot of attention to Koshi. And he is attacking me. Unless he saw his team-mates last game and decided that copying their strategy is an A* move, I'm not convinced that scum!Koshi would do that off the bat.


Meh, I'll have to reread later in case I'm succumbing to OMGUS with that case.

This is actually my thoughts on him as well. The other thing I notice is that he is fine dropping a joke here and there as well, inferring that he isn't stressed at all rn.

I want to see where the point goes though and more what koshi does with it. Koshi, my ears are yours.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 15:28 GMT
#235
Meanwhile, let me look at SL chip in a page or two ago.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 15:30 GMT
#236
On April 06 2017 23:16 sicklucker wrote:
im gonna be really shit day 1 tho im in a bad state of mind and not alot of time

Oh so that is it said. I just saw his name.

Hope everything is ok!
subtle buddy tactics
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 15:53 GMT
#242
On April 07 2017 00:45 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 00:26 Shapelog wrote:
On April 06 2017 23:54 Tumblewood wrote:
I feel like a broken clock but I've got a nice mindmeld/townread on calix

Go on?
On April 06 2017 23:57 beentheredonethat wrote:
So trying to get this straight:

Koshi says, Calix is scum because
* Calix has engaged in a bad conversation with me without direction
* in a bad conversation with ?? without direction
* in a bad conversation with ?? without direction

+ Show Spoiler [post in question] +
On April 06 2017 23:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 22:46 Shapelog wrote:
Also Koshi,

On April 06 2017 21:54 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. btdt is town. You are more likely not.
Progress was made.


What did you see in the vs. other than not understanding her?

The post you use to call Calix town, I disagree, for me that post came too much out of the blue and I do not understand why she wanted to stop the shitfight there. I like btdt more atm because he kept going after Calix called for a truce.

I also dont see what Calix has achieved so far. 3 bad conversations without direction. Too much sucking up to rayn. Too agressive in her tone.

I think she is mafia.


I mean yes, I agree with the whole aggressiveness. This is what struck out to me when she called me out on not voting Koshi, it just felt super-aggressive but I can see this coming from ballsy Calix willing to get the game going. Then again the "oh misunderstanding" thing - wouldn't value that too high, it's kinda weird but town does weird things imho.

Right now I'm not down for a Calix lynch. I've heard people say that activitiy alone is not alignment indicative but right now I'm not willing to lynch a player that's actually talking.

I'm also not willing to let go of my Koshi feelings. Still feels a lot like drive-by-mafia-koshi but I'd need to actually dig through his town games and compare stuff which tbh I'm not down to right now. Maybe later but I don't think so.

I like Shape but that's gut feeling.

And sucking up to ryan apparently?

So do you think im reading more into the misunderstanding/move on posts from her in my thought process on it?
You go do that meta thing. I'm fine looking at the game info lol.

I like Shape as well. I hope he wont get Nightkilled.
On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:47 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:45 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 16:25 Koshi wrote:
Hey rayn, if you don't mind, I am going for a -20 posts D1, 2-3 posts N1, 5 posts D2 and 2 posts N2. Well, unless mafia shoots me like they did the last 5 nights I was alive.

I will read the first 36 hours of the game and give my opinion. With some luck it is different than the last time.

Koshi please don't say such things they feel scummy


How is that post scummy?

"I will do [whatever]" is always scummy. Don't promise, do.

this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen
- btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise
- (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game)
- btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise)
- btdt does not push koshi
but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now

So your where calix is hence the mind meld comment?
On April 07 2017 00:09 Calix wrote:
My main problem with Koshi right now is how we had to drag out this conversation just to get to these points because he wasn't cooperating. And the points were not even that good in the end. It didn't do anything but fill space with an argument that doesn't add up and is uncharitable.

I am still unable to see how he read my posts and concluded "she's trying to keep on rayn's good side".

But then again, going about his read in this manner draws a lot of attention to Koshi. And he is attacking me. Unless he saw his team-mates last game and decided that copying their strategy is an A* move, I'm not convinced that scum!Koshi would do that off the bat.


Meh, I'll have to reread later in case I'm succumbing to OMGUS with that case.

This is actually my thoughts on him as well. The other thing I notice is that he is fine dropping a joke here and there as well, inferring that he isn't stressed at all rn.

I want to see where the point goes though and more what koshi does with it. Koshi, my ears are yours.

To be honest I don't know what "sucking up to rayn" means. Help me

Koshi said that calix is scum bc she is sucking up to ryan.
On April 07 2017 00:46 beentheredonethat wrote:
Shape: "So do you think im reading more into the misunderstanding/move on posts from her in my thought process on it?"

I don't know how much you read into it or how much should be read into it. It's one notable thing and the more the game progresses, the better (or worse, lol) it will be readable

I meant from my view on it from my post a while back where that was something that made me lean to her being more town then scum.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 15:55 GMT
#244
On April 07 2017 00:52 Koshi wrote:
Tumble is obvious town.
Tumble pls explain your mindmeld pls.

yes please (through i think i know it due to some posts.)

y is he obv town?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 15:56 GMT
#246
On April 07 2017 00:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
Koshi you're just saying things and you're not explaining

maybe its a test?????

Perhaps, Koshi is testing us....
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 15:56 GMT
#247
On April 07 2017 00:55 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2017 00:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 07 2017 00:52 Koshi wrote:
Tumble is obvious town.
Tumble pls explain your mindmeld pls.

asdjalkdjlkjasökldjasldkj really

I was already in a tumble and calix are scum but then you do that 100% safe townread for which exact reasons?

His post on your entrance

How would u say that differs from calix post about it?
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
Profile Joined November 2015
United States5184 Posts
April 06 2017 16:09 GMT
#249
+ Show Spoiler +
How does the post make him scummy (cba to reopen filter from calix

On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?

Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc.

On April 06 2017 19:58 Calix wrote:
Your opening post stood out to me because I looked at it and I could not tell what you were trying to do/ say since it didn't say anything. A post for the sake of making a post is probably a better way to put it.

Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?

Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc.

It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I.


If you think that, where is your vote...?

On April 06 2017 19:58 Calix wrote:
Your opening post stood out to me because I looked at it and I could not tell what you were trying to do/ say since it didn't say anything. A post for the sake of making a post is probably a better way to put it.

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On April 06 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?

Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc.

It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I.


If you think that, where is your vote...?



Versus:

On April 07 2017 00:03 Tumblewood wrote:
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On April 06 2017 19:47 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:45 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:44 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 16:25 Koshi wrote:
Hey rayn, if you don't mind, I am going for a -20 posts D1, 2-3 posts N1, 5 posts D2 and 2 posts N2. Well, unless mafia shoots me like they did the last 5 nights I was alive.

I will read the first 36 hours of the game and give my opinion. With some luck it is different than the last time.

Koshi please don't say such things they feel scummy


How is that post scummy?

"I will do [whatever]" is always scummy. Don't promise, do.

this is btw one of the worst entrance sequences I have ever seen
- btdt calls koshi scum for making a promise
- (even though koshi basically promised to be lazy and he does that every game)
- btdt says it's worth a push (1 step removed from a promise)
- btdt does not push koshi
but I will give him the benefit of the doubt on being scum for now


If anything, Tumble's post is a TLDR of Calix's train of thought/posts/points that were spread out during that time. Which if he was mafia, could easily be faked if need be.
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
Shapelog
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April 06 2017 16:18 GMT
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On April 07 2017 01:11 Koshi wrote:
It is confirmed. I will also have to ignore Shape.

Confirmed what? Tumble's Alignment?

Yeah no, a TLDR of a another users points that could be true in a mindmeld or him being mafia and copy and pasting is not confirmed.

Also I can make you noticed me senpai
"Subsequently clicking post is like launching a doomsday's worth of nukes' equivalent in dopamine." -RB
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