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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 11:41 GMT
#159
This went dumb real quick.

Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 11:53 GMT
#162
On April 06 2017 20:51 Koshi wrote:
##vote Calix
I don't understand her.


Then ask away.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 11:55 GMT
#164
On April 06 2017 20:54 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 20:53 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:51 Koshi wrote:
##vote Calix
I don't understand her.


Then ask away.

Nha. I am fine.


lmao
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 12:05 GMT
#167
On April 06 2017 21:02 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.

Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol.

Am I dumb or scummy?


Since we established where the problem was, dumb
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 12:23 GMT
#172
On April 06 2017 21:15 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 21:05 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 21:02 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.

Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol.

Am I dumb or scummy?


Since we established where the problem was, dumb

But what changed your stance on me then? I mean you said you find me scummy and I thought it's because I say "pushworthy" while not voting Koshi. What made you dropping that?


I thought we already covered that I was talking about your play-style.

You said "I didn't want to vote on something push-worthy 3 hours into the game" and that you weren't sure how to question his initial posts so I did not see the point of questioning you further when that would distract you from scum-hunting Koshi.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 12:26 GMT
#173
On April 06 2017 21:22 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 21:20 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 21:19 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 21:02 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:50 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:27 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:23 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:51 Calix wrote:
So you're arguing that Koshi announcing his play-style this game is indicative of a lazy mafia?

Possible but it's not for that post, I don't think. He did the same thing in HR iirc.

It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I.

I do it in every game I play. For years. I do it in scumgames because I do it in towngames.

Assuming you're town, why would you be content in sitting down the first 36 hours and just read?

Why wouldn't I be? I am a happy person.

Well you're content with it when you're scum of course. Just reading no working is fine.

But then I might get lynched! Because I am afk the last 12 hours.

You get the point, don't pretend you don't.

I did. But I found it a very weak answer. But it is fine. You are more likely town over Calix.


When you said you would only post like, 20-30 times today, did you also decide to make them 20-30 posts of one-liners with no explanations?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 12:51 GMT
#175
On April 06 2017 21:45 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 21:26 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 21:22 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 21:20 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 21:19 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 21:02 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:50 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:27 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:23 Koshi wrote:
On April 06 2017 19:53 beentheredonethat wrote:
[quote]
It's worth a push, I think. He's around since a few hours so at least he's checking in regularly, yet he's not doing anything. Which might be perfectly fine because work day, but then again I'm not supposed to find excuses for Koshi being lazy, am I.

I do it in every game I play. For years. I do it in scumgames because I do it in towngames.

Assuming you're town, why would you be content in sitting down the first 36 hours and just read?

Why wouldn't I be? I am a happy person.

Well you're content with it when you're scum of course. Just reading no working is fine.

But then I might get lynched! Because I am afk the last 12 hours.

You get the point, don't pretend you don't.

I did. But I found it a very weak answer. But it is fine. You are more likely town over Calix.


When you said you would only post like, 20-30 times today, did you also decide to make them 20-30 posts of one-liners with no explanations?

Am I forced to make 20 posts when I say I am going to make 20 posts?


Your point being?

When you say "I will post X times", I'm going to assume that you'll be posting X fucking times.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 12:53 GMT
#176
Especially when the content of your posts leaves much to be desired in terms of...well anything, really.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 12:56 GMT
#179
If you don't explain your working to the rest of the class then there's no progress, my dude.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 13:03 GMT
#183
On April 06 2017 22:02 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 21:56 Calix wrote:
If you don't explain your working to the rest of the class then there's no progress, my dude.

I might be the smartest kid in school, but I am no teachers pet.


Boring.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 13:08 GMT
#186
It's actually better to read people by what/ how they do something, what not they think.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 13:21 GMT
#190
On April 06 2017 22:15 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 22:08 Calix wrote:
It's actually better to read people by what/ how they do something, what not they think.

What a stupid statement to make. "better". Is it like that it is better to have 1.000.000.001€ than to have 1.000.000.000€?
If there is somebody who sees what I see. That person is going to be more likely town over mafia. Now sadly I already said too much and mafia might go look to replicate what I saw, but still, the original point stands. And it is a very good way to townread somebody.

Go away Calix.
Your play is not good in this conversation.
Not in your conversation with btdt.
Not in your conversation with rayn.


What are you doing?


Why don't you fuck off? I'm playing the game and you're whining about theory. Literally no mafia plays like that.

If you have a point then say it instead of waiting for someone else to do it. You do not have to 'hide' your reasoning for mind-melds to happen.

If you don't want to say the point then stop clogging up the chat. Pick one and stick with it.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 13:30 GMT
#193
On April 06 2017 22:28 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 21:23 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 21:15 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 21:05 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 21:02 beentheredonethat wrote:
On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.

Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol.

Am I dumb or scummy?


Since we established where the problem was, dumb

But what changed your stance on me then? I mean you said you find me scummy and I thought it's because I say "pushworthy" while not voting Koshi. What made you dropping that?


I thought we already covered that I was talking about your play-style.

You said "I didn't want to vote on something push-worthy 3 hours into the game" and that you weren't sure how to question his initial posts so I did not see the point of questioning you further when that would distract you from scum-hunting Koshi.

That's a good one


Hm?

Speaking of Koshi, what did you make of his latest posts?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 13:47 GMT
#198
On April 06 2017 22:37 Shapelog wrote:
Alright, here where I stand with the conversation between Calix and BTDT.

For Calix side, the following makes me think they are more town then scum when I look at this part.
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 20:41 Calix wrote:
This went dumb real quick.

Has that cleared everything up? I don't fancy a repeat of disfo/ Xatalos/ Damdred/ Calix where a misunderstanding gets dragged out to epic proportions, lol.

I personally think that if Calix was scum, they would of not posted this. It would make sense for Scum!Calix to keep on BTDT as to have a excuse to post, and also because of the what apparently happen with a misunderstanding last game. I do acknowledge that Calix could be backing off here as scum due to a lack of footing on BTDT, but I expect that they would keep on for later credit of being active D1 or even for being on BTDT/Ryan later on if either got into negative light.

Moreover, BTDT was more in the mood of keeping the fight going on. Which would allow scum!calix to hide in what would prob. develop into a shitfight with BTDT for getting pass d1.

However, I personally do not see anything I really like in calix's points. Some I dont really understand the way calix talks (I.E. calix posts kinda feel a bit circlejerking? If that makes sense, prob doesnt). Also, I do feel as there should be more from calix if they are town and though something about BTDT is scummy. I don't get the stance of "waiting to question you" at all either.

But doesn't feel like calix is at the stage of mafia discrediting that is usually happening at this stage of the game hmmm.

I will say that I would rank calix a bit above null into the town lean range b/c while I do not understand calix overall stance, I think the clear out looks more town then mafia in my eyes.

Flipsid3, I think BTDT also displayed similar actions regarding koshi's meta point and not voting calix. His posts dont feel like he is being pressured in my eyes, and seems more of him trying to figure out calixs point while being mad at calix logic. One could state that he is being pretty agressive in a way, but I just chop it up to him as taking a stance at figuring out the game. Don't really have a issue with him right now.

More towny then Calix and working his way up to a town lean


What don't you like about the way I talk? lol

I felt like I was being clear when I was talking to BTDT about his actions re: Koshi and then his interpretation of my posts.

On BTDT, I don't follow how him being aggressive is scummy (as you seem to view it). And some of your points are vague (is the second sentence of BTDT's point -> town-lean? for one) but I think the analysis is good otherwise.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 14:20 GMT
#203
On April 06 2017 23:16 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 22:46 Shapelog wrote:
Also Koshi,

On April 06 2017 21:54 Koshi wrote:
I disagree. btdt is town. You are more likely not.
Progress was made.


What did you see in the vs. other than not understanding her?

The post you use to call Calix town, I disagree, for me that post came too much out of the blue and I do not understand why she wanted to stop the shitfight there. I like btdt more atm because he kept going after Calix called for a truce.

I also dont see what Calix has achieved so far. 3 bad conversations without direction. Too much sucking up to rayn. Too agressive in her tone.

I think she is mafia.


Being aggressive isn't AI.

Because it was clear that there was a misunderstanding in the chat and that continuing the fight with that in play = unproductive.

"too much sucking up to rayn"

What game are you even playing?

To sum up your 'points', ending a conversation, a NAI point and a misrepresentation of my interactions with rayn.

Legit.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 14:23 GMT
#206
On April 06 2017 23:21 Koshi wrote:
Sucking up to rayn was obvious


If repeatedly asking "how is SL not making sense mafia?" and criticising Rayn for that read is 'sucking up' then calling your argument retarded is a compliment of the ages.

Pls explain.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 14:25 GMT
#208
On April 06 2017 23:24 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 23:23 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 23:21 Koshi wrote:
Sucking up to rayn was obvious


If repeatedly asking "how is SL not making sense mafia?" and criticising Rayn for that read is 'sucking up' then calling your argument retarded is a compliment of the ages.

Pls explain.

Exactly


That's not 'sucking up' in any world.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 14:29 GMT
#213
On April 06 2017 23:26 Koshi wrote:
I like to think town!Calix explains it once and then calls rayn out for the moron he is. Or calls him mafia.

You did something in between to stay on his good side. Well not even in between. Something different.


Oh goodie, you play a town game with me once and now you assume you know everything about my town play. The worst kind of player.

I wanted his thought process for why SL's point bullshit = mafia-indicative because as it stands, his current jump from "doesn't make sense" to "it's mafia" isn't transparent.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 14:32 GMT
#216
On April 06 2017 23:30 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2017 23:29 Calix wrote:
On April 06 2017 23:26 Koshi wrote:
I like to think town!Calix explains it once and then calls rayn out for the moron he is. Or calls him mafia.

You did something in between to stay on his good side. Well not even in between. Something different.


Oh goodie, you play a town game with me once and now you assume you know everything about my town play. The worst kind of player.

I wanted his thought process for why SL's point bullshit = mafia-indicative because as it stands, his current jump from "doesn't make sense" to "it's mafia" isn't transparent.

Maybe I am mafia. Do not forget that option!


Being an obnoxious dick about meta isn't limited to townies, my dude.
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
April 06 2017 14:36 GMT
#219
I'm pretty sure my first town-game on this site was me yelling obtusely at everyone for not having me as the most obvious town ever despite doing next-to-no "scum-hunting" until I died P:
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