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I am going to assume that Onegu is mafia btw.
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He is way more obnoxious as town. Makes terrible posts. And pisses me off every game. This game he makes ok-ish posts, and never sticks out his neck.
Does anybody reads him town for a really good reason? Which is not "he looks harmless"
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On March 21 2017 20:52 AMG wrote:
Actually, on that Koshi, you think I subbed into this game, saw myself and both my teammates were borderline terminal, ....and chucked town reads at both of them?
No. I asked about the replacement because of that 
My team is df/Eden/disformation. But I couldn't ask disformation about disformation.
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On March 21 2017 20:59 AMG wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2017 20:56 Calix wrote:
It's really weird to think that most of the people in this game are like, late 20s-30s. Dont remind me. 30 in December.
30 in May
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On March 21 2017 21:03 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2017 20:43 Koshi wrote:On March 21 2017 17:47 disformation wrote:
eden/agm/df
/game
(not 100% on df though) I like this team. What is your read on Onegu? 1eg is still fairly nullish. i think i had some small tone related things that made lean sliiiightly townish, but I fear it is nothing scum!1eg couldn't fake. typical oneg things like: Show nested quote +On March 21 2017 04:18 Onegu wrote:
The fact that Koshi isnt shouting from the rooftops that I am scum has me highly doubtful about him.
The fact Rayn isnt bitching about me more has me worried.
Calix doing so makes her town.
Xata is town.
Everyone else I have little to comment on. oneg centric reads. and his dbs thing here: Show nested quote +On March 19 2017 02:42 Onegu wrote:On March 18 2017 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 18 2017 00:51 Koshi wrote:On March 18 2017 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 18 2017 00:35 Koshi wrote:@rayn. I am liking Damdred atm. This is a good post. On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.
Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.
As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.
Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying. I don't. The last part makes no sense and is not a reason to "doubt" anyone. The Tumble read is also bad (as you pointed it out now). There is nothing weird in saying "these people are too good to be read town early on for their posting". There is nothing wrong in that. There is nothing interesting in that, it doesn't mean anything since Tumble just pointed out (in case he is town - which i am quite sure he is) what he believes to be true, and it makes sense. No. I understand the doubting on the DBS read. DBS is more likely town than mafia, way more likely. But if he is mafia, he had it pretty easy so far. But there is no reason to doubt a townread on him atm. You jsut don't "doubt" something unless they do something scummy (which is not something DBS has done). Especially coming from Damdred who has a tendency to afk for large amount of times in games lately. It's just bs to even imply DBS could be mafia for that because it's never something that is associated with one's alignment. UGG Rayn that huge post on why he did scummy things and basically pointed out why he was scum but wasnt because of reasons was scummy... DBS called himself scum in a post. On March 17 2017 08:18 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:On March 17 2017 08:10 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 08:09 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:On March 17 2017 08:06 Damdred wrote:
Ok so since dis going to go for a bit.
I think xata and cal are both town right now.
Deepblue is moving towards scummy territory with the fearless read of koshi being town for no real reason I guess? Probable scum post. Why? It just seemed like an easy jump and the thought process felt shallow. Here's how I see it: 1. Scum typically lurk (at least more often than not) and I've scumread people in the past who answer irrelevant fluff questions without participating in the major discussion in the thread at the time especially early on in the game. 2. Koshi asked me a question. 3. I ignore everything else (the discussion between Xatalos and Damdred for instance) and respond to that pretty much instantly. 4. This shows I was reading the thread and refreshing it fairly often even if I'm not commenting. That's more often than not something scum do although there were extenuating circumstances here. 5. Koshi picked up on it and asked why I was lurking. That showed me he was on the lookout for possible scum even outside the major thread of discussion. So, I think he's probably town. It's not solid but that's the best read I have this early on. 6. Damdred I think missed the subtext entirely. He just threw out a shallow read "oh, he's appeasing someone who engaged him so he could be scum." It's just an easy read on someone he thinks would be an easy target. He doesn't really wonder why I townread Koshi or even straight up ask me. Why are you townreading Damdred? Like this post is just wrong to me and feels scummy. Then says he has said nothing scummy? BLEH. oneg also really likes playing scum, so i would kinda expect something more fancy here. like a video where he scum slips. =D i wish i could learn more from his rayn/koshi call outs. but i fear i am not familiar with that dynamic.
The egocentric reads are a point in Onegu his favor. But he knows how to look good as mafia so meh.
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His filter is so fucking clean. Holy shit.
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The only thing I don't like is the blue comment. I can see scum Onegu say that because the mafia team didn't go for his kill. Bit of revenge.
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I would sheep you as a farewell present but I don't believe it.
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On March 21 2017 22:40 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2017 20:45 Koshi wrote:
He is way more obnoxious as town. Makes terrible posts. And pisses me off every game. This game he makes ok-ish posts, and never sticks out his neck.
Does anybody reads him town for a really good reason? Which is not "he looks harmless" I'm glad you hold me in such high esteem! So you're basically scum reading me for making better posts than when I'm town... sounds legit
Nha that was about Onegu.
I have 0 problems with your posting in the past. I don't even remember being pissed off once about you, but knowing me, it probably happened.
But it is cool that you self meta yourself as mafia.
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On March 21 2017 22:49 Onegu wrote:
Would like to point out after I point out rayn and koshi not scum reading me they scum read me.
Good to see you are fully caught up. Why are you voting Eden?
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Well if Eden flips town I am going to be supersad.
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On March 21 2017 23:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote: Xatalos
Well i am voting for mafia.
I am willing to move to darthfoley.
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Come on.... Why Xatalos......... I don't want that at all.
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Ok. I am going to read random Xatalos pages.
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page 13 or something:
On March 20 2017 17:41 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 17:35 disformation wrote:
i also really hope xata isnt advocating a rayn lynch today, cause i will not do that without a good cc.
could be town paranoia though I don't think he's a good lynch today for purely game-mechanical reasons - if he's scum, he's a dead man walking in the long run anyway, so better focus elsewhere for now.
I'm not really sure if you're scum. Eden is probably a better bet right now. Consider my vote a placeholder.Rels could be a decent counter-wagon to Eden as well... Maybe. He's so inactive that it probably wouldn't give much though.
I don't like the fact he describes his vote as an a "placeholder". You vote for mafia and you know why that person is mafia.
On March 20 2017 21:30 Xatalos wrote:
I get kind of the same feelings on disfo as on Malongo. Could be scum, could not be. Eden is probably the better lynch ultimately.... Not really sure if there is any viable alternative.. Would perhaps be better to find an alternative wagon better than disfo.
Will be interesting to see what AMG brings to the table.
Weak. There are no scum xcept the un cced JK?
On March 20 2017 21:35 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 21:31 Calix wrote:
You have any ideas for 'alternative wagons', Xatalos? That's the problem.... everyone else has some reason to be town pretty much, leaving just Eden/disfo/AMG with high chances of being scum. And AMG hasn't really done anything yet so it's a big null.
Really good question by Calix. Perfect. Eden/disfo/AGM... Does he believe this or is it copying the general opinion?
We will go find out.
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Looking at that again those 3 names are really bad. Eden as placeholder / disformation is the same as malongo / and AMG hasn't done anything and is null
How are that your 3 biggest scumreads on D2 Xatalos?
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On March 20 2017 05:19 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 05:16 Koshi wrote:
K finally home. Somebody catch me up / talk to me. Opinions on rayn?
On March 20 2017 05:38 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 05:37 Koshi wrote:On March 20 2017 02:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:Instead of looking into the people who compleined about the votes on Malongo (when noone was doing anything) you should try to look at the people who call me scum for not even voting for Malongo and because i somehow "pushed Malongo to be lynched" (aka Xatalos). That's some fucking twisted shit right there. Mafia 101 of "how to call someone scum without any reasons at all". They are not calling you scum for that alone. It's because you don't care who out of Damdred/Malango got lynched and just said: "fuck it, they are both 100% mafia". And you are the only one in the game that feels that. :D
On March 20 2017 06:18 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 05:46 Koshi wrote:On March 20 2017 03:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's like your whole play at the EOD is basically "rayn and Tumble are mafia whatever Malongo's alignment is". This is probably a misrepresentation. Kind of. I did think any of rayn/Tumble/Malongo could be scum, but I didn't say they all were or that flips among them wouldn't affect my reads on the rest of them.
On March 20 2017 06:20 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 06:17 Koshi wrote:On March 19 2017 04:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 19 2017 04:03 Xatalos wrote:On March 19 2017 03:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well then i don't have to say anything anymore today. Did you have something else against Damdred other than that (debatably meaningful) question he asked at game start? Enlighten me. Normally Damdred has some good reads (or at least really townie thought processes on reads). I don't see any of it here. Like he usually feels happy(?) that he finds townreads and here it's just some random lists of some people and asking if people disagree... It's just... unsmart. This is a good indicator why rayn is mafia. When he is town and he really found mafia. He keeps repeating his list of why that person is mafia. And when that person shows face aganin, he adds it to the list. But in this game, his list doesn't grow, it just stays the same while his mafia target keeps doing things. Yeah, he hasn't really added anything after Damdred's opening question thingy.... And with Malongo too, he pretty much just took one post from him and called him scum for that forever. He did add new things to suspect me for though. But none of his reasons were ever good.
On March 20 2017 06:21 Xatalos wrote:
Notable also that rayn's suspect list stayed the through the whole D1 (me/Damdred/Malongo). Even now it's mostly the same, after Malongo flipped town.
On March 20 2017 06:25 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2017 06:22 Calix wrote:On March 20 2017 06:21 Xatalos wrote:
Notable also that rayn's suspect list stayed the through the whole D1 (me/Damdred/Malongo). Even now it's mostly the same, after Malongo flipped town. This is actually a good point. And you didn't even need meta for that  rayn is perfectly capable of appearing "townish enough" as scum so I'm just especially careful with him usually. Only after he's done something like pushed a scum to death or such will I be convinced that he's town deep inside  (been fooled by him more than a couple of times)
Either he is town and saw what I saw. Or he is mafia and riding my ass.
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Give me a number from 6 to 10. Going to get coffee and do some work.
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On March 21 2017 23:26 Tumblewood wrote:
you might be right but, even if you think it is, it's not quite a slam dunk case. it's just a decent one
The question is atm. Did we fall for the mafia trap with Eden. It kinda just felt right, I also would have voted Eden instantly D2 if it wasn't I felt my vote was better on rayn.
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Xatalos being blue makes no sense with how he read rayn. How he talked about an all VT set up etc... He would have focussed more on a counterclaim and not tried to get rayn lynched with "logic"
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