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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 19:56 GMT
#549
eden is slightly confusing me in a "the me of this morning would like/agree/post the same stuff" way.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 20:09 GMT
#555
On March 18 2017 05:05 Calix wrote:
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On March 18 2017 04:56 disformation wrote:
eden is slightly confusing me in a "the me of this morning would like/agree/post the same stuff" way.


Hm?

just feels weird reading him post stuff very similar to what I was posting earlier today. deja vu like. not sure what to make of it. hes also ignoring other stuff you did like the interactions with rayn.
def. liked his overall reads post more than that.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 20:19 GMT
#563
On March 18 2017 05:13 Calix wrote:
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On March 18 2017 05:09 disformation wrote:
On March 18 2017 05:05 Calix wrote:
On March 18 2017 04:56 disformation wrote:
eden is slightly confusing me in a "the me of this morning would like/agree/post the same stuff" way.


Hm?

just feels weird reading him post stuff very similar to what I was posting earlier today. deja vu like. not sure what to make of it. hes also ignoring other stuff you did like the interactions with rayn.
def. liked his overall reads post more than that.


Wouldn't that count as him mind-melding with you, thus a town-read in your eyes then?

I think his case against me is fundamentally flawed since he assumes that townies have a Specific Way of playing as town but I don't think it's mafia-motivated. Way too much focus on the context and you can see how he thinks.

Which means we have quite a problem on our hands re: too many townie-looking people. It's extremely unlikely, statistically speaking, that Rels/ Onegu are two of the mafia so I think we're dealing with a vet or two as mafia.

TBH I never 100% understood that mindmeld stuff. The thing is: if I still was scumreading you, there would be a case for that, but I think I was a bit omgus inflicted earlier today and liked your interactions with rayn for example.

but yeah unless it is straight up rels/1eg/malongo, which would be fairly lulz, we kinda have a little problem on our hand.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 20:30 GMT
#565
On March 18 2017 05:24 Calix wrote:
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On March 18 2017 05:19 disformation wrote:
On March 18 2017 05:13 Calix wrote:
On March 18 2017 05:09 disformation wrote:
On March 18 2017 05:05 Calix wrote:
On March 18 2017 04:56 disformation wrote:
eden is slightly confusing me in a "the me of this morning would like/agree/post the same stuff" way.


Hm?

just feels weird reading him post stuff very similar to what I was posting earlier today. deja vu like. not sure what to make of it. hes also ignoring other stuff you did like the interactions with rayn.
def. liked his overall reads post more than that.


Wouldn't that count as him mind-melding with you, thus a town-read in your eyes then?

I think his case against me is fundamentally flawed since he assumes that townies have a Specific Way of playing as town but I don't think it's mafia-motivated. Way too much focus on the context and you can see how he thinks.

Which means we have quite a problem on our hands re: too many townie-looking people. It's extremely unlikely, statistically speaking, that Rels/ Onegu are two of the mafia so I think we're dealing with a vet or two as mafia.

TBH I never 100% understood that mindmeld stuff. The thing is: if I still was scumreading you, there would be a case for that, but I think I was a bit omgus inflicted earlier today and liked your interactions with rayn for example.

but yeah unless it is straight up rels/1eg/malongo, which would be fairly lulz, we kinda have a little problem on our hand.


I think I might have to reconsider the validity of mind-melding after this game. I've had too many moments where people have agreed with me and vice versa already.

Well since three people think my early interactions with you were problematic then the logical conclusion is that I fucked up there, probably with misunderstanding you re: what Eden pointed out. But that's my cross to bear.

And you say it's a problem, but I prefer the term 'challenge'. Difficult game state, not being insta-town-read/ N1'd, playing with the pros...I am actually pretty hyped for this game.

I like that attitude. More difficult games also are more rewarding than easy or dead games. Regardless of the outcome imo.

i probably should have gone to bed directly and not stayed up that extra hour to play the game yesterday. would probably have made the game more readable at least.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 20:35 GMT
#566
so some random thoughts about what/who I might have missed. not sure if ill completely sort it out today, but dunno some ideas what i could have been missing / want to reconsider tomorrow:
a) rayn and koshi are right on damdred after all
b) tw got cut too much slack
c) its someone i am not considering at all atm
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 20:37 GMT
#567
dunno. feel like tomorrow would be a good time to read through all filters again. hope deepblue did some posting till then.

have that hope for 1eg and rels as well... just feels not very realistic xD
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 20:54 GMT
#571
mh, i like you noting that tw sounds pessimistic. some ppl think thats more likely to come from scum.
i kinda like that tw is kinda stubborn about his TvT read. think would be more profitable for scum to make up some stuff about it being a scum vs town thing and then trying to ml both. unless you are scum with tw ofc. xD
otherwise it is a bit meh. like you said very little content and scumhunting. would really like for him to explain his malongo town lean. tone is also slightly more town like. nice mix between not giving a damn and being fairly chill, like with his rayn read and the tvt thing.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 20:57 GMT
#573
damdred is also in a kinda weird spot.
i liked edens observation that damdy is fairly meh. as i said earlier the points of rayn and koshi are not huge to me, but they kinda add up.
a town!damdy for me is that when he is able to explain his reads very well in very few sentences. which is kinda present in the posts i liked from him.

maybe i am cutting him too much slack? damdy is also very good as scum and i dont have much experience with scum!dred, so my tell could be crap?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 20:59 GMT
#574
that being said, simply being meh is also very well in damdy's town range. xD
so hard to tell from that.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 21:00 GMT
#575
mh df is kinda a town lean on tone.
wouldnt mind him clarifying his reads / stating where he is currently at outside of malongo
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 21:07 GMT
#582
On March 18 2017 06:04 Damdred wrote:
I think that tell isn't the best, I'm extremely aware of my meta and try to change and manipulate it as best as I can as scum to try to get better and ice on people.

But let's be honest here, the game is pretty difficult outside a few things.

As for little things adding up on me I don't really think any of it adds up to a decent case at all. Like Rayns main point I've explained 50 times already by the misunderstanding between myself and disformation.

yeah dunno. gut read says you are not scum.
if i had to put it into points i think you are like 4/6 in town favour. so town lean or whatever.
but i feel like i am missing someone and something.

dunno. getting tired.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 21:09 GMT
#584
yeah dunno. like tw is not slam dunk scum. by far. but i would feel way better if he was like trying to figure out the game. xD
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 21:23 GMT
#590
oh. just randomly remembered something about mindmelds.
there was a glorious game where town!sicklucker had a mindmeld with scum!rels.
just sayin'
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 18 2017 11:26 GMT
#632
Mh. Seems I didn't miss too much.
A pity deepblue is replacing out.

not a fan of neither malongo nor tw.

malongo 0 reads/game solving content.
tw basically rocking 0 scumreads and voting someone to vote someone of the first/weakest thing he was able to find.

On March 18 2017 13:50 Tumblewood wrote:
ya eden is town. this post especially seems like a smart thing someone would do
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On March 18 2017 00:17 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.

What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion

who? eden or xata?

dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum.
xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset.

Why are you taking my claim at face value, disfo?

but also her tone is generally impatient. the vibes are good

wait. eden is a her?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 18 2017 15:49 GMT
#650
been mulling over tw vs mal, but its a bit bleh.
mal posting 0 reads looks more like scum giving up and not wanting to give town more info to me.

liked damdreds idea about looking at the ppl on the wagon. but i am pretty much cool with everyone on it. maybe should look at df's filter again.
On March 19 2017 00:41 Xatalos wrote:
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On March 18 2017 22:12 Damdred wrote:
Xata or anyone who on the mal wagon makes you super skeptical?


rayn isn't even on his wagon, but he's pushed Mal nonetheless, and with very weak reasons IMO (which is more typical of his scumplay). Still not sure about disfo, and not completely sure about Calix either. Mainly it's because there hasn't been any meaningful opposition, but just scattered votes all around. That rarely leads to a correct lunch.

not sure if i remember correct, but werent you on a scumteam with calix somewhat recently? i think damdred mentioned that calix doesnt look like in her last scum game. agree/disagree?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 18 2017 15:51 GMT
#653
On March 19 2017 00:41 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 22:12 Damdred wrote:
Xata or anyone who on the mal wagon makes you super skeptical?


rayn isn't even on his wagon, but he's pushed Mal nonetheless, and with very weak reasons IMO (which is more typical of his scumplay). Still not sure about disfo, and not completely sure about Calix either. Mainly it's because there hasn't been any meaningful opposition, but just scattered votes all around. That rarely leads to a correct lunch.

i think rayn's preferred lynch has been damdred for quite some time now?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 18 2017 15:59 GMT
#659
On March 19 2017 00:57 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2017 00:51 disformation wrote:
On March 19 2017 00:41 Xatalos wrote:
On March 18 2017 22:12 Damdred wrote:
Xata or anyone who on the mal wagon makes you super skeptical?


rayn isn't even on his wagon, but he's pushed Mal nonetheless, and with very weak reasons IMO (which is more typical of his scumplay). Still not sure about disfo, and not completely sure about Calix either. Mainly it's because there hasn't been any meaningful opposition, but just scattered votes all around. That rarely leads to a correct lunch.

i think rayn's preferred lynch has been damdred for quite some time now?


Maybe, but he doesn't seem to care if it's Mal instead?

On March 18 2017 03:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well idc.
Damdred and Malongo are mafia.

On March 18 2017 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On March 18 2017 08:00 Koshi wrote:
Pff. I am going to bed. Alcohol seems to keep going up.
Tomorrow big day for me. Wish me luck.

we murder damdred or malongo. and it'sa gnnna be awesome.

disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 18 2017 17:18 GMT
#677
nah, i like df's tone way too much to lynch him over mal/tw.
On March 19 2017 01:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Eden1892 why am i one of your top town's since so far i have made a case that is in your opinion terrible and another case on a player you don't think is mafia, and a third on on your top town?

nice find, would like to hear a post about that as well.

@rayn what do you currently think about tw?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 18 2017 17:22 GMT
#678
wait. about that rayn on eden quote just now:
just to make sure: eden had mal as null, implying not really liking rayn's case.
while the one saying that he didnt like rayn's case was xata.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 18 2017 17:33 GMT
#685
On March 19 2017 02:26 Onegu wrote:
##Unvote

##Vote:DBS


Gut feels. ^

Uh. Is that including the part where dbs is replacing out? Oo
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