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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 18 2017 15:01 GMT
#641
Hi onegu have you read any of the game yet?

Also just as an aside the votes are pretty spread out which sort of bothers me. Have all these one voters with no real care about pushing their cases. And nothing else. Mal is leading the lynch but most of the game doesn't care that much and really rayn who probably had the biggest voice in the thread (you such a good yeller sir) doesn't seem to care though granted he thinks both oof is are scum.

Idk it seems super easy at this point just to lynch mal with no real opposition which could be a weak scum team I guess it one that has a town up for lynch . Third option is just sagging mal but I don't we it. I have tr on abasically the whole wagon though..
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 18 2017 15:05 GMT
#642
On March 17 2017 07:27 Koshi wrote:
Hi all. Tempted to do entirely nothing the first 96 hours. I am in a limbo.



Who was it that convinced him to play? That person = Scum
Try TL Mafia!!!
Onegu
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States9699 Posts
March 18 2017 15:05 GMT
#643
On March 19 2017 00:01 Damdred wrote:
Hi onegu have you read any of the game yet?

Also just as an aside the votes are pretty spread out which sort of bothers me. Have all these one voters with no real care about pushing their cases. And nothing else. Mal is leading the lynch but most of the game doesn't care that much and really rayn who probably had the biggest voice in the thread (you such a good yeller sir) doesn't seem to care though granted he thinks both oof is are scum.

Idk it seems super easy at this point just to lynch mal with no real opposition which could be a weak scum team I guess it one that has a town up for lynch . Third option is just sagging mal but I don't we it. I have tr on abasically the whole wagon though..



Im on the second page of the game and reading...
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Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 18 2017 15:13 GMT
#644
On March 19 2017 00:01 Damdred wrote:
Hi onegu have you read any of the game yet?

Also just as an aside the votes are pretty spread out which sort of bothers me. Have all these one voters with no real care about pushing their cases. And nothing else. Mal is leading the lynch but most of the game doesn't care that much and really rayn who probably had the biggest voice in the thread (you such a good yeller sir) doesn't seem to care though granted he thinks both oof is are scum.

Idk it seems super easy at this point just to lynch mal with no real opposition which could be a weak scum team I guess it one that has a town up for lynch . Third option is just sagging mal but I don't we it. I have tr on abasically the whole wagon though..


+1

The number of people with 'meh' or single votes is very high but I still think he's a better lynch than the others unless we decide to go full #yolo and lynch Rels or some shit. I'd rather take my chances with the inactive guy with a meh filter who people have actually talked about over being paranoid and potentially mislynching someone who is more townie when they'll make themselves more obvious later, if that makes sense.

I am kinda hoping that Onegu will have some fresh insights, break us out of this "everyone is townie" slump we're in.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 18 2017 15:41 GMT
#645
Like I have only problems with df on this wagon.

1) Comes into the thread and blasts calix early and never really retracts from that. But is voting with 2/3 of his scum reads on his other scum read without really questioning the validity of the wagon I the people on the wagon.

2) Has very little talking points on mal in his filter that would indicate a scum read. I'm fact it seems likely basis for the read is actually rayns read. (Just as an aside I kinda said the same things about mal right after he posted but df kinda ignores this and scum reads me but puts rayn super high in his town list. I know he scum reads me for cordial interactions with calix which isbadreasoning but meh).

3) In his filter calix is his biggest read but just sheep's rayn instead of trying to push his read.

Like idk just kind of a weird filter and his vote on mal seems a bit... opportunistic at this point.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 18 2017 15:41 GMT
#646
On March 18 2017 22:12 Damdred wrote:
Xata or anyone who on the mal wagon makes you super skeptical?


rayn isn't even on his wagon, but he's pushed Mal nonetheless, and with very weak reasons IMO (which is more typical of his scumplay). Still not sure about disfo, and not completely sure about Calix either. Mainly it's because there hasn't been any meaningful opposition, but just scattered votes all around. That rarely leads to a correct lunch.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 18 2017 15:42 GMT
#647
On March 19 2017 00:41 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 22:12 Damdred wrote:
Xata or anyone who on the mal wagon makes you super skeptical?


rayn isn't even on his wagon, but he's pushed Mal nonetheless, and with very weak reasons IMO (which is more typical of his scumplay). Still not sure about disfo, and not completely sure about Calix either. Mainly it's because there hasn't been any meaningful opposition, but just scattered votes all around. That rarely leads to a correct lunch.


So we are kinda on the same page. Ok can you tea my last post and give opinions about df
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 18 2017 15:44 GMT
#648
On March 19 2017 00:41 Damdred wrote:
Like I have only problems with df on this wagon.

1) Comes into the thread and blasts calix early and never really retracts from that. But is voting with 2/3 of his scum reads on his other scum read without really questioning the validity of the wagon I the people on the wagon.

2) Has very little talking points on mal in his filter that would indicate a scum read. I'm fact it seems likely basis for the read is actually rayns read. (Just as an aside I kinda said the same things about mal right after he posted but df kinda ignores this and scum reads me but puts rayn super high in his town list. I know he scum reads me for cordial interactions with calix which isbadreasoning but meh).

3) In his filter calix is his biggest read but just sheep's rayn instead of trying to push his read.

Like idk just kind of a weird filter and his vote on mal seems a bit... opportunistic at this point.


Hmm. I still have yet to evaluate foley with any confidence. Kind of been under my radar most of the time.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
March 18 2017 15:48 GMT
#649
I also don't like eden, and I am with xata thatch don't lol all the weak things rayn has pushed+disinterested that his lynch isn't leading now. Idk I understand the I think both are scum and idc mindset
But seems to passive for rayn.

Eden tone ply method I attack seems off so far to me, butbi new to check on a few things.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 18 2017 15:49 GMT
#650
been mulling over tw vs mal, but its a bit bleh.
mal posting 0 reads looks more like scum giving up and not wanting to give town more info to me.

liked damdreds idea about looking at the ppl on the wagon. but i am pretty much cool with everyone on it. maybe should look at df's filter again.
On March 19 2017 00:41 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 22:12 Damdred wrote:
Xata or anyone who on the mal wagon makes you super skeptical?


rayn isn't even on his wagon, but he's pushed Mal nonetheless, and with very weak reasons IMO (which is more typical of his scumplay). Still not sure about disfo, and not completely sure about Calix either. Mainly it's because there hasn't been any meaningful opposition, but just scattered votes all around. That rarely leads to a correct lunch.

not sure if i remember correct, but werent you on a scumteam with calix somewhat recently? i think damdred mentioned that calix doesnt look like in her last scum game. agree/disagree?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 18 2017 15:50 GMT
#651
On March 19 2017 00:41 Damdred wrote:
Like I have only problems with df on this wagon.

1) Comes into the thread and blasts calix early and never really retracts from that. But is voting with 2/3 of his scum reads on his other scum read without really questioning the validity of the wagon I the people on the wagon.

2) Has very little talking points on mal in his filter that would indicate a scum read. I'm fact it seems likely basis for the read is actually rayns read. (Just as an aside I kinda said the same things about mal right after he posted but df kinda ignores this and scum reads me but puts rayn super high in his town list. I know he scum reads me for cordial interactions with calix which isbadreasoning but meh).

3) In his filter calix is his biggest read but just sheep's rayn instead of trying to push his read.

Like idk just kind of a weird filter and his vote on mal seems a bit... opportunistic at this point.


1. It was his most sustained push and most of it was shitty meta so not brilliant, no. He hasn't done anything like that as of late even though he has several scum-reads/ question marks in his reads list.

2. Don't think sheeping raynpelikoneet's reasoning is notable. I think his logic for Damdred/ Calix is bad. Pretty sure he's making an assumption about how I would read you just because I said "lol I always scum-read Damdred"

But yeah, when you put it that way, I can see what you mean with the odd focus.
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 18 2017 15:51 GMT
#652
Foley seems OK'ish for now, I guess? He talks a lot in a focused manner (focused on doing useful things). Kind of jumps to quick snap judgments. His reads aren't too far from my own, just a couple of people in different places. Pretty... null / slight town lean? Not really the best D1 lynch IMO
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 18 2017 15:51 GMT
#653
On March 19 2017 00:41 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 22:12 Damdred wrote:
Xata or anyone who on the mal wagon makes you super skeptical?


rayn isn't even on his wagon, but he's pushed Mal nonetheless, and with very weak reasons IMO (which is more typical of his scumplay). Still not sure about disfo, and not completely sure about Calix either. Mainly it's because there hasn't been any meaningful opposition, but just scattered votes all around. That rarely leads to a correct lunch.

i think rayn's preferred lynch has been damdred for quite some time now?
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 18 2017 15:54 GMT
#654
On March 19 2017 00:41 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 22:12 Damdred wrote:
Xata or anyone who on the mal wagon makes you super skeptical?


rayn isn't even on his wagon, but he's pushed Mal nonetheless, and with very weak reasons IMO (which is more typical of his scumplay). Still not sure about disfo, and not completely sure about Calix either. Mainly it's because there hasn't been any meaningful opposition, but just scattered votes all around. That rarely leads to a correct lunch.


Yeah, about that.

On March 18 2017 07:15 Xatalos wrote:
Eden's case isn't actually horrible. It's true that Calix jumped to scumreading disfo a bit quickly/strongly and stuck with it until it no longer had steam. The reason for dropping it wasn't the best either... "at least he's doing something now" after listing various other reasons to scumread him, which weren't really addressed? Or were they somewhere?

I could be biased because Eden praised my townieness so greatly.

I'll be around closer to the deadline, but probably not very much for the next 15-20 hours or so.


I'm confused as to why you think it's suspect for me to have pushed disformation 'a bit quickly/ strongly and stuck with it' when you agreed with all of my points and spent more time talking about it than I did? My point here being that since you acted in a similar way, it doesn't make sense for you to then agree with Eden when he calls out the same behaviour in me.

And I still don't get how Eden calling you top town influences your response to his case.

In general, I think Eden has not been talked about as much as I was expecting him to be.

@Damdred, can you expand on your Eden read?
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 18 2017 15:55 GMT
#655
Eden seemed kind of OK? At least his Calix case actually made me reconsider Calix - no matter if it's right or wrong, at least he seems to do things and not just lurk by.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 18 2017 15:56 GMT
#656
On March 19 2017 00:49 disformation wrote:
been mulling over tw vs mal, but its a bit bleh.
mal posting 0 reads looks more like scum giving up and not wanting to give town more info to me.

liked damdreds idea about looking at the ppl on the wagon. but i am pretty much cool with everyone on it. maybe should look at df's filter again.
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2017 00:41 Xatalos wrote:
On March 18 2017 22:12 Damdred wrote:
Xata or anyone who on the mal wagon makes you super skeptical?


rayn isn't even on his wagon, but he's pushed Mal nonetheless, and with very weak reasons IMO (which is more typical of his scumplay). Still not sure about disfo, and not completely sure about Calix either. Mainly it's because there hasn't been any meaningful opposition, but just scattered votes all around. That rarely leads to a correct lunch.

not sure if i remember correct, but werent you on a scumteam with calix somewhat recently? i think damdred mentioned that calix doesnt look like in her last scum game. agree/disagree?


I probably was... but my memory is hazy. I'll need to recheck that game to answer.
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Xatalos
Profile Joined January 2011
Finland9675 Posts
March 18 2017 15:57 GMT
#657
On March 19 2017 00:51 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2017 00:41 Xatalos wrote:
On March 18 2017 22:12 Damdred wrote:
Xata or anyone who on the mal wagon makes you super skeptical?


rayn isn't even on his wagon, but he's pushed Mal nonetheless, and with very weak reasons IMO (which is more typical of his scumplay). Still not sure about disfo, and not completely sure about Calix either. Mainly it's because there hasn't been any meaningful opposition, but just scattered votes all around. That rarely leads to a correct lunch.

i think rayn's preferred lynch has been damdred for quite some time now?


Maybe, but he doesn't seem to care if it's Mal instead?
"The opportunity to secure ourselves against defeat lies in our own hands, but the opportunity of defeating the enemy is provided by the enemy himself." - Sun Tzu
Calix
Profile Joined August 2016
3379 Posts
March 18 2017 15:59 GMT
#658
Yeah, it was that Newbie game where we hardcore bussed Lunatic D1 and then we bumbled along, failing to kill the TPRs, before I turned into a whiny bitch and asked to concede
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 18 2017 15:59 GMT
#659
On March 19 2017 00:57 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2017 00:51 disformation wrote:
On March 19 2017 00:41 Xatalos wrote:
On March 18 2017 22:12 Damdred wrote:
Xata or anyone who on the mal wagon makes you super skeptical?


rayn isn't even on his wagon, but he's pushed Mal nonetheless, and with very weak reasons IMO (which is more typical of his scumplay). Still not sure about disfo, and not completely sure about Calix either. Mainly it's because there hasn't been any meaningful opposition, but just scattered votes all around. That rarely leads to a correct lunch.

i think rayn's preferred lynch has been damdred for quite some time now?


Maybe, but he doesn't seem to care if it's Mal instead?

On March 18 2017 03:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Well idc.
Damdred and Malongo are mafia.

On March 18 2017 08:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2017 08:00 Koshi wrote:
Pff. I am going to bed. Alcohol seems to keep going up.
Tomorrow big day for me. Wish me luck.

we murder damdred or malongo. and it'sa gnnna be awesome.

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 18 2017 16:02 GMT
#660
I am getting more certain Batman called out 3 mafia.
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