EPTI don't like this post much. It basically feels like forced/fake aggro. Pushing a pool of players with any reason, no matter how (in)significant, just to push them.
IS completely untrue unless he explains how i am doing wht he says i am.
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
IS completely untrue unless he explains how i am doing wht he says i am. | ||
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Calix
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On March 18 2017 02:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes, but he called me possible mafia after that. I don't think that's relevant. I found that a really townie post. Not much more to say about it. I'm not expecting you to agree with my logic though. I just tend to pick up on individual posts. Going back to your earlier point, you're correct that I need to revise my reads. Having 3/4 of the scummers among Malongo/ Eden/ Rels/ Onegu is extremely unlikely which means I'm being too lenient with my town-reads. But I would still lynch among those four right now since none of them have town potential atm. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Things like "feels like forced/fake aggro", "just to push people for pushing them", "scummy tone", "this post is scummy", it doesn't make any sense" etc etc.. Those things do not mean anything unless you explain HOW the person is acting in such a way. Which is something Xatalos does not. Sure he comes to a "different" conclusion in the end but it still doesn't make any sense unexplained and i would like him to explain it. Because when not explained it's all just fluff. In a same way i could say "Calix is mafia because of scummy tone and one of her posts is scummy". Those can be scum traits but unless i tell people why, what's the point? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 18 2017 02:34 Calix wrote: I don't think that's relevant. I found that a really townie post. Not much more to say about it. I'm not expecting you to agree with my logic though. I just tend to pick up on individual posts. Going back to your earlier point, you're correct that I need to revise my reads. Having 3/4 of the scummers among Malongo/ Eden/ Rels/ Onegu is extremely unlikely which means I'm being too lenient with my town-reads. But I would still lynch among those four right now since none of them have town potential atm. Then at least vote for Malongo. | ||
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darthfoley
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Calix
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So I don't see how Damdred asking a dumb question alone makes him mafia. You've made your point but it lacks that "this is how it helps mafia" point for me to find it persuasive. And I don't see how Xatalos saying that is mafia by itself either. Being wrong isn't a scum tell unless it's done to push some kind of agenda and I don't see that. | ||
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Tumblewood
United States3709 Posts
On March 18 2017 02:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: Because Tumble, you stated that: - Vets are too hard to read at this point - People who rayn is calling scum i think are town How do you come to conclsuion i am leaning town? magic + Show Spoiler + the EXTREMELY ELABORATE thought process is basically that. "oh, hm rayn's pushing for info. that seems pretty reasonable, he might be town" also I stated vets were too hard to read when we were 4 hours into the game | ||
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Calix
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Sure. ##vote Malongo | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On March 18 2017 02:38 Calix wrote: Eh, I don't agree. I feel like you sometimes conflate illogical posts/ actions with them being scummy when town are also illogical, say stupid shit, don't read properly, have preconceived biases, etc. So I don't see how Damdred asking a dumb question alone makes him mafia. You've made your point but it lacks that "this is how it helps mafia" point for me to find it persuasive. And I don't see how Xatalos saying that is mafia by itself either. Being wrong isn't a scum tell unless it's done to push some kind of agenda and I don't see that. I have never said Damdred asked a dumb question. I said Damdred asked a question that he should already know the answer to (in regards of what it makes of disformation's alignment). The question can never achieve anything because he should be able to make a judgement call on disfo's alignment even without the question. If i asked you "How old are you? Plz answer this is an alignment indigative question." that's basically the same thing Damdred did (except Damdred's question was worse because the possible answers he "gave out" were all wrong). Nothing you say can possibly help me figure out your alignment in case i am town. On March 18 2017 02:39 Tumblewood wrote: magic + Show Spoiler + the EXTREMELY ELABORATE thought process is basically that. "oh, hm rayn's pushing for info. that seems pretty reasonable, he might be town" also I stated vets were too hard to read when we were 4 hours into the game okay, makes sense. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
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On March 18 2017 02:38 Calix wrote: And I don't see how Xatalos saying that is mafia by itself either. Being wrong isn't a scum tell unless it's done to push some kind of agenda and I don't see that. The reason i thought Xatalos is mafia was because i felt like he should have understood i am actually playing the game when he was telling people i am trolling. Furthermore he tried to discredit me by "everyone is calling rayn scum/null" which wasn't the case at all, i couldn't find a reason other than "don't listen to him". I also couldn't understand what he was doing with disformation early on, and i now understand it better. Which lessens my scumread on him. I don't think he is town, he can very easily be scum, but he is definitely not even near to someone i would want to lynch atm. Damdred and Malongo are almost definitely scum both so we should lynch into them. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Calix
3379 Posts
I think I get your point but I don't get how it makes him mafia and I'm not sure that I'm going to. To save you the bother of explaining yourself yet again, I will keep your posts in mind when I filter-dive later. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On March 18 2017 02:50 Calix wrote: So he asked a meaningless question which didn't advance the conversation then? I think I get your point but I don't get how it makes him mafia and I'm not sure that I'm going to. To save you the bother of explaining yourself yet again, I will keep your posts in mind when I filter-dive later. ^^this was about Damdred | ||
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Damdred
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Idk why you can't see the correlation and why what I said about deep is an accurate thing. Premature probably, but true none the less. | ||
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Calix
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
"I think Koshi is a good town player and town in this game. Now you, Calix, would you say Koshi is bad town or scum? Because you must think one or the other. You should know the right answer and btw i am not calling you scum here." What would you think about this? If i made a post like this what would you think? | ||
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Damdred
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Everyone else has a reason I don't want to Lynch today. I kinda expect one mafia in my town reads but I hope not. | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On March 18 2017 02:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: I get what you're saying: Did you read this: What would you think about this? If i made a post like this what would you think? I would think that it's logically fallacious and worth investigating. I wouldn't necessarily think it was scum. How are you reading Damdred's responses to this topic overall, with that in mind? Can you see some coherent town narrative? Inconsistent explanations? Incredibly scummy, pls lynch?  | ||
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Calix
3379 Posts
On March 18 2017 02:55 Damdred wrote: At least 2 mafia in mal, onegu, rels, df, Eden. Everyone else has a reason I don't want to Lynch today. I kinda expect one mafia in my town reads but I hope not. Since DF has posted a fair amount, can you expand on your read here? | ||
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