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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 08:49 GMT
#274
On March 17 2017 08:48 Calix wrote:
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On March 17 2017 08:45 Koshi wrote:
disformation hasn't made a really bad post yet. Damdred made 2.


Who needs one really bad post when you can have a generally crappy overall filter?

Kinda surprised you haven't picked up on how incredibly defensive disformation was tbqh. His opening posts were blendy, then he segued into a hard-to-follow discussion, then reacted poorly to my 'questioning' and then fucked off.

I don't see how Damdred is comparable.

I have a huge problem with this post, as none of that makes me scum and calix knows this. context: she was a cohost in my last town game where I was super defensive and reacting bad to pressure a lot. I actually nuked myself in the end.

I kinda like that she put '' around the questioning, because the whole line of that was posting something about me that was not true and then scumreading me, when I call her out on that.
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On March 17 2017 07:43 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:42 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:37 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.

What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion

who? eden or xata?

dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum.
xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset.


That's a lot of words for "his claim is NAI" fam.

Why is Xat's response more likely scum than town?

Where did I say that Xat's response is more likely scum?
I said I read his filter with a "why could he be scum" mindset, to see where damdred could be coming from. -.-


You said earlier that the only thing you found was the smiley thing so when you made the Xat comment, I assumed that was a scum-read.

But since you're not claiming that, you might as well explain what you DID get from his filter.

On March 17 2017 07:46 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:44 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:43 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:42 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:37 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.

What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion

who? eden or xata?

dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum.
xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset.


That's a lot of words for "his claim is NAI" fam.

Why is Xat's response more likely scum than town?

Where did I say that Xat's response is more likely scum?
I said I read his filter with a "why could he be scum" mindset, to see where damdred could be coming from. -.-


You said earlier that the only thing you found was the smiley thing so when you made the Xat comment, I assumed that was a scum-read.

But since you're not claiming that, you might as well explain what you DID get from his filter.

wtf that smiley thing was damdy and I already explained what i got from the filter.


Your tone seems hostile here which is uncalled for since all I did was ask if you had anything from your Xatalos filter-dive. I don't see how that warrants your 'wtf'


Can you guys explain your TR on her? Cause I think her push on me is a scum push and otherwise she only has posted a bunch, most of which ended in her calling everyone town or going nowhere.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 08:51 GMT
#275
Not a fan how DF mentions this:
On March 17 2017 09:22 darthfoley wrote:
actually nvm the op doesn't include letters regarding the setups. so maybe town points for trying to clarify what Eden meant?

but then goes on to ignore xata/damdy/me
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 08:57 GMT
#276
On March 17 2017 14:56 raynpelikoneet wrote:
It's an early morning in Gotham City. The deep green sea sleeps silently. If you listen to it closely you can hear the sounds of reason and knowledge from it. Not everyone sleeps though. There are criminals on the loose and the batcave has been fully functional during the night. Batman is sitting in the coffee table. Robin is sitting in the toilet taking a shit. Alfred walks in with a pot of hot delicious coffee.

Alfred: "Sir, a rough night, huh?"
Batman: "Yes. We got a lead to the TV-station. There was the Who wants to be a millionaire show."
Alfred: "Mhm..."
Batman: "You know, the host gave a question. There is a formation of numbers, 1,2,3,4. What number comes next? Then we saw the possible answers. 7, 22, 19, 107."
Alfred: "But... those are all wrong?"
Batman: "Exactly. There is no point in a question where all the answers possible are wrong! That's when we ran to the stage."
Alfred: "Well I'll be DAMD...."

At this point Alfred gets interrupted by Robin walking into the room..

Robin (shouts): "Haha yes, and he was all RED when he left the stage!"
Batman (smiles and nods): "Well you know... If it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it's
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[image loading]


Alfred pours more coffee to the cups. Batman drinks his coffee black. Robin puts about seven tablespoons of sugar into his coffee. Both Alfred and Batman look at each other and shake their heads simultaneously.... Then Alfred continues;

Alfred: "Sir, did you have a chance to look at today's newspaper?"
Batman: "No, what was special about it?"
Alfred: "There is a nice new blog!"

Alfred hands the paper to Batman. Batman opens page 254 and reads;

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The ship of Jesters | Blog

Thö FInland män is tydei wierd. Normally Finland män laiks to kou tu sauna. Pat tydei nat. Hii kous tu sauna and ven juu throu paket of water onte roks tis is not vat Finland män das. Tydei hii throus water onte vool änd oolso throus te paket autof te windou. Is wierd. Meibi hii häd a potl ov vodka? Meibi hii vants tu kou tu sauna vit siikret vrends? Meibi vit mister M? Pat mister M is not intrested tudei. Tudei M vants to vander in thö forest änd took nonsens. Vits is veri wierd kos läst taim M vas veri intrested in throuving water onte roks. Hii vas in ouppen sauna kvalifaier änd very mats lavd throuving water vrom te pekinin. Nau veri samting els. Ai tink hii got strooperries vor diner. Veri laikli.


Alfred interrupts here...

Alfred: "Sir! It's the sign. They're sending it from the Plammer tower again! You need to get going!"

Batman *sighs*: "Again... Oh well let's go Robin!"

They both rush up and run to the batmobile.
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[image loading]

dada dada dada dada dada dada dada dada......

Am I reading this right? Malongo is the Joker? I am the Penguin (based on the fact that you ppl seem to think going to bed at 00:00 when I have work next day makes me scum somehow)?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 08:58 GMT
#278
so. work.
day might be slow. so i should have more time later.

todo:
1) last attempt at explaining the xata thing
2) read damdy filter



am voting calix btw
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 09:03 GMT
#279
On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
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On March 17 2017 17:49 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:48 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:45 Koshi wrote:
disformation hasn't made a really bad post yet. Damdred made 2.


Who needs one really bad post when you can have a generally crappy overall filter?

Kinda surprised you haven't picked up on how incredibly defensive disformation was tbqh. His opening posts were blendy, then he segued into a hard-to-follow discussion, then reacted poorly to my 'questioning' and then fucked off.

I don't see how Damdred is comparable.

I have a huge problem with this post, as none of that makes me scum and calix knows this. context: she was a cohost in my last town game where I was super defensive and reacting bad to pressure a lot. I actually nuked myself in the end.

I kinda like that she put '' around the questioning, because the whole line of that was posting something about me that was not true and then scumreading me, when I call her out on that.
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On March 17 2017 07:43 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:42 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:37 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.

What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion

who? eden or xata?

dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum.
xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset.


That's a lot of words for "his claim is NAI" fam.

Why is Xat's response more likely scum than town?

Where did I say that Xat's response is more likely scum?
I said I read his filter with a "why could he be scum" mindset, to see where damdred could be coming from. -.-


You said earlier that the only thing you found was the smiley thing so when you made the Xat comment, I assumed that was a scum-read.

But since you're not claiming that, you might as well explain what you DID get from his filter.

On March 17 2017 07:46 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:44 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:43 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:42 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:37 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.

What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion

who? eden or xata?

dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum.
xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset.


That's a lot of words for "his claim is NAI" fam.

Why is Xat's response more likely scum than town?

Where did I say that Xat's response is more likely scum?
I said I read his filter with a "why could he be scum" mindset, to see where damdred could be coming from. -.-


You said earlier that the only thing you found was the smiley thing so when you made the Xat comment, I assumed that was a scum-read.

But since you're not claiming that, you might as well explain what you DID get from his filter.

wtf that smiley thing was damdy and I already explained what i got from the filter.


Your tone seems hostile here which is uncalled for since all I did was ask if you had anything from your Xatalos filter-dive. I don't see how that warrants your 'wtf'


Can you guys explain your TR on her? Cause I think her push on me is a scum push and otherwise she only has posted a bunch, most of which ended in her calling everyone town or going nowhere.


Using a game where I already knew your alignment is retarded, especially as I am more used to seeing you in obs QT and not in-game. I also don't see how this makes you town as opposed to it being NAI.

I don't want an answer to that btw. Just stop bitching/ OMGUSing and actually contribute something. This would literally address half of my case against you which is that you're responding to people but not doing anything.

FWIW I picked up on you because it initially felt like you were blending, then when I was reading the chat, you stuck out to me due to your tone compared to everyone else and I pushed there. Simple stuff.

"most of which ended in her calling everyone town"

Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.

btdt did the same thing (seeing that i am very defensive / don't react to pressure very well as host/cohost and then using it against me as scum) so i dont think it is retarded at all. shitty pushes on me generally come from scum more often that from town.

i thought your case against me was that you dont like my tone? where do you say that your problem is me not contributing anything?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 09:05 GMT
#280
On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.

1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read
2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads
3) "look how much work i already did"

if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 09:05 GMT
#281
but yeah work, cu laters
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 09:07 GMT
#282
Brings me to another point: for me being fairly NAI which you admitted here:
On March 17 2017 08:01 Calix wrote:
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On March 17 2017 07:58 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:56 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:54 disformation wrote:
*sigh*
Like xata had like 3 posts at this time, so the only reason (imo) damdy could have had to SR xata would have been in the reaction about the setup stuff. which is possible to come from scum. i personally went bleh.
which is why went like "well its better than smilies, but still crap" (which is why i didnt do anything about it)

in the opposite direction is the question whether damdies "push" on xata could be a scum push, but upon his explanation and no vote being in the voting thread I think its more likely damdy wanted to get some discussion/shit started.


Okay, I'm starting to think you're mafia from your reactions here.

Nothing to do with what you're saying, really, it's more that you sound very tense and defensive and like you have a massive stick up your arse for no real reason once people started engaging with you.

It's a different vibe from what I get from Damdred and Xatalos who seem more chill and willing to get shit done.

##vote disformation

#selfmeta:
read any of my games. they are found in my profile. =D


Sure, it's possible I am just misreading you based on something that's NAI for you...but I feel like the chat was more chill and then you disrupted that vibe and you're on the defense a lot.

So I'm more inclined to think you're mafia until you actually do something, lol.

You seem pretty bend on calling me scum, without room for consideration.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 10:50 GMT
#300
On March 17 2017 18:09 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 18:03 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 17:49 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:48 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:45 Koshi wrote:
disformation hasn't made a really bad post yet. Damdred made 2.


Who needs one really bad post when you can have a generally crappy overall filter?

Kinda surprised you haven't picked up on how incredibly defensive disformation was tbqh. His opening posts were blendy, then he segued into a hard-to-follow discussion, then reacted poorly to my 'questioning' and then fucked off.

I don't see how Damdred is comparable.

I have a huge problem with this post, as none of that makes me scum and calix knows this. context: she was a cohost in my last town game where I was super defensive and reacting bad to pressure a lot. I actually nuked myself in the end.

I kinda like that she put '' around the questioning, because the whole line of that was posting something about me that was not true and then scumreading me, when I call her out on that.
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 17 2017 07:43 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:42 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:37 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.

What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion

who? eden or xata?

dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum.
xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset.


That's a lot of words for "his claim is NAI" fam.

Why is Xat's response more likely scum than town?

Where did I say that Xat's response is more likely scum?
I said I read his filter with a "why could he be scum" mindset, to see where damdred could be coming from. -.-


You said earlier that the only thing you found was the smiley thing so when you made the Xat comment, I assumed that was a scum-read.

But since you're not claiming that, you might as well explain what you DID get from his filter.

On March 17 2017 07:46 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:44 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:43 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:42 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:37 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:34 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:28 Damdred wrote:
What Eden did though is wifom right up his alley, soon kind of ignores it and will wait patiently for him to come back and interact with.

What do you think of it though dis? Scum? Bad town? Obviously you have an opinion

who? eden or xata?

dont think i have played with eden before. opening is 50/50. tries to give the thread something to work with and gtfos. it is mechanical/setup talk though, so easy to do as scum.
xata biting immediately is only something i found after reading his posts like 3 times with a "why could he be scum" mindset.


That's a lot of words for "his claim is NAI" fam.

Why is Xat's response more likely scum than town?

Where did I say that Xat's response is more likely scum?
I said I read his filter with a "why could he be scum" mindset, to see where damdred could be coming from. -.-


You said earlier that the only thing you found was the smiley thing so when you made the Xat comment, I assumed that was a scum-read.

But since you're not claiming that, you might as well explain what you DID get from his filter.

wtf that smiley thing was damdy and I already explained what i got from the filter.


Your tone seems hostile here which is uncalled for since all I did was ask if you had anything from your Xatalos filter-dive. I don't see how that warrants your 'wtf'


Can you guys explain your TR on her? Cause I think her push on me is a scum push and otherwise she only has posted a bunch, most of which ended in her calling everyone town or going nowhere.


Using a game where I already knew your alignment is retarded, especially as I am more used to seeing you in obs QT and not in-game. I also don't see how this makes you town as opposed to it being NAI.

I don't want an answer to that btw. Just stop bitching/ OMGUSing and actually contribute something. This would literally address half of my case against you which is that you're responding to people but not doing anything.

FWIW I picked up on you because it initially felt like you were blending, then when I was reading the chat, you stuck out to me due to your tone compared to everyone else and I pushed there. Simple stuff.

"most of which ended in her calling everyone town"

Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.

btdt did the same thing (seeing that i am very defensive / don't react to pressure very well as host/cohost and then using it against me as scum) so i dont think it is retarded at all. shitty pushes on me generally come from scum more often that from town.

i thought your case against me was that you dont like my tone? where do you say that your problem is me not contributing anything?


K but I'm not pushing you to make you tilt. If you read, you'll see that I am literally asking you to contribute. Nice try at avoiding my request, can't answer it?

I said early on that you 'were on the defense a lot'. Looking at that now, I guess that doesn't really convey my "you're not contributing much of your own" point though.

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Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.


Are you scum-reading DF, for example? Do you have any opinions on Xatalos and Damdred? Damdred's train? Malongo not voting on the main trains? raynpelikoneet's latest post??? Like come on, this is basic-bitch-tier.

Seriously, you have 2 pages of filter and you have yet to do anything game-solving. Amazing. Meanwhile I - the supposed ""mafia"" - am running circles around your bitch arse.

yes DF is a scum lean, based on what i posted.
rayn is okay. more used to him being outspoken and direct and stuff, but he has been pointing out things he likes and dislikes. would like him to confirm/deny if I got his last post right though. damdred is like very high on my todo list for today. (yes you have read that correctly <3)
On March 17 2017 18:12 Calix wrote:
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On March 17 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.

1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read
2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads
3) "look how much work i already did"

if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place


You've never been mislynched and you know I know this yet you're trying to claim that you're 'weak'.

Calling bullshit. I was 100% the first person to scum-read you and the only person who really agrees with me is Xatalos.

The rest of your reasons are painting my actions in a scummy light with no backing. Try again.

So you saying my game has been "stronk" so far? Not sure what your other stuff relates to my other points. An example of the "look at how much work I already did" would be that post:
On March 17 2017 10:20 Calix wrote:
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On March 17 2017 10:14 darthfoley wrote:
On March 17 2017 10:09 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 10:07 darthfoley wrote:
On March 17 2017 09:19 Malongo wrote:
On March 17 2017 09:15 darthfoley wrote:
Salutations friends! May the odds be ever in our favor because we have such wonderful mods!

I hate that quote.
##vote darthfoley


Reading the thread enough to vote, but not posting anything of substance.

#LurkModeInitiated


Is Raynpelikoneet also scummy to you? If not, why?


About as null as possible. The few times I have played with rayn, he's been NK N0/1, so maybe this trolling style is a way of furthering himself in the game.

You equated his playstyle with Koshi's in the scum QT last game, and I can kinda see the similarities: brash, in your face, takes charge etc. He's also quite good at it, so I don't really understand the scum!rayn motivation to trolling early on, unless he just doesn't give a shit for some reason. I always feel like mafia is in the best position if they control the topic of conversation, which he hasn't even tried to do. He's also not helping town at all, so although I have some theorycraft of optimal mafia play, he's super null


I also see it as null, just mildly annoying. It would be an extremely lame scum tactic but that's about it.

You seem to remember the scum Skype chat better than I do. I can't remember what I said in that, lol.

Also I'm pretty sure I am already hitting three pages with this post. I should probably go to bed soon and stop spamming.

On March 17 2017 18:13 Calix wrote:
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On March 17 2017 18:07 disformation wrote:
Brings me to another point: for me being fairly NAI which you admitted here:
On March 17 2017 08:01 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:58 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:56 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:54 disformation wrote:
*sigh*
Like xata had like 3 posts at this time, so the only reason (imo) damdy could have had to SR xata would have been in the reaction about the setup stuff. which is possible to come from scum. i personally went bleh.
which is why went like "well its better than smilies, but still crap" (which is why i didnt do anything about it)

in the opposite direction is the question whether damdies "push" on xata could be a scum push, but upon his explanation and no vote being in the voting thread I think its more likely damdy wanted to get some discussion/shit started.


Okay, I'm starting to think you're mafia from your reactions here.

Nothing to do with what you're saying, really, it's more that you sound very tense and defensive and like you have a massive stick up your arse for no real reason once people started engaging with you.

It's a different vibe from what I get from Damdred and Xatalos who seem more chill and willing to get shit done.

##vote disformation

#selfmeta:
read any of my games. they are found in my profile. =D


Sure, it's possible I am just misreading you based on something that's NAI for you...but I feel like the chat was more chill and then you disrupted that vibe and you're on the defense a lot.

So I'm more inclined to think you're mafia until you actually do something, lol.

You seem pretty bend on calling me scum, without room for consideration.


I've said about three times now that I am willing to reconsider if you ACTUALLY DO SOMETHING.

You keep painting me as scum...instead of doing the something.

Given this, I really don't see how this makes sense from town POV.

well sry for calling your scummy push on me scummy (not really).


On March 17 2017 18:29 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 11:50 Onegu wrote:
I think there is a problem with my role PM...

It says VT.

Must be some sort of mistake for me to roll VT again.

I think hosts are just trolling me.

##unvote
##Vote Onegu

Obvious mafia & best lynch.

wut? isnt that super standard/NAI D1 oneg play?


lunch time, will continue after that.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 11:40 GMT
#301
On March 17 2017 18:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 18:07 disformation wrote:
Brings me to another point: for me being fairly NAI which you admitted here:
On March 17 2017 08:01 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:58 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:56 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:54 disformation wrote:
*sigh*
Like xata had like 3 posts at this time, so the only reason (imo) damdy could have had to SR xata would have been in the reaction about the setup stuff. which is possible to come from scum. i personally went bleh.
which is why went like "well its better than smilies, but still crap" (which is why i didnt do anything about it)

in the opposite direction is the question whether damdies "push" on xata could be a scum push, but upon his explanation and no vote being in the voting thread I think its more likely damdy wanted to get some discussion/shit started.


Okay, I'm starting to think you're mafia from your reactions here.

Nothing to do with what you're saying, really, it's more that you sound very tense and defensive and like you have a massive stick up your arse for no real reason once people started engaging with you.

It's a different vibe from what I get from Damdred and Xatalos who seem more chill and willing to get shit done.

##vote disformation

#selfmeta:
read any of my games. they are found in my profile. =D


Sure, it's possible I am just misreading you based on something that's NAI for you...but I feel like the chat was more chill and then you disrupted that vibe and you're on the defense a lot.

So I'm more inclined to think you're mafia until you actually do something, lol.

You seem pretty bend on calling me scum, without room for consideration.

Hmm not true. She is leaving you outs but you are not taking them. Which is very bad for you. Like... she is clearly trying to make you say something good, but you are not. Which makes her top town, and you very mafia. Town defends and attacks, mafia just defends.

##unvote
##vote disformation

Kinda disagree, but might be biased. But I guess I don't need to be worried by you soft defending me anymore.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 11:52 GMT
#302
Okay last attempt to explain that xata thing.
I'll try to make it as clear as possible:
1. I read this post:
On March 17 2017 07:15 Damdred wrote:
Hello my sexy people.

I have miiiiiissed some of you very much.

As for my favorite alignment it would be scum, there is just more of a challenge with a good list of winning with scum than if your town and can coast in the same situation.

As for right now xata is scum.

##vote xatalos

And ask myself:
"Why is damdy scumreading Xata, did I miss something?"
2. I read Xatas posts
"uh nothing?"
3. I read Xatas posts
"uh still nothing?"
4. I read Xatas posts and go like "okay there has to be something?"
Only possibility for that is that something in Xatas reaction to the setup stuff is fishy. But I am like "this is super bleh, lets see what damdred tells Calix as she asked him this:"
On March 17 2017 07:16 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:15 Damdred wrote:
Hello my sexy people.

I have miiiiiissed some of you very much.

As for my favorite alignment it would be scum, there is just more of a challenge with a good list of winning with scum than if your town and can coast in the same situation.

As for right now xata is scum.

##vote xatalos


Nice to see you too

What makes you think that? He hasn't even brought out the hedges...yet

5. damdy replies:
On March 17 2017 07:21 Damdred wrote:
And we are at a junction where it is me or xata, it's obvious he's scum look at him using smiley face

6. i am like:
"wow thats even worse than what I got".
On March 17 2017 07:25 disformation wrote:
Was expecting something better tbh.
Like something about Eden baiting with setup talk and xata instantly being like "so to make it official: you are either bsing or are one of these blue roles?"

Note that I don't even attribute a single bit of scumminess to this, as I know that I just pulled that out of thin air in looking for a possible explanation for damdreds vote.
7. everyone blows up in my face
8. I think about whether damdy could be scum for his vote.
9. damdy posts:
On March 17 2017 07:29 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 07:27 Xatalos wrote:
I'm not really following the conversation here.



I think dinformation is taking out votes seriously even though there is a voting thread.

10. I go *facepalm*
11. ppl keep asking me to explain that shit, even though I think I did
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 12:13 GMT
#303
Skimming some filters. Didn't like TW. Throws out some easy townreads (Malongo, Claix, DeepBlue) complains about the towncircle and doesn't comment on any of the wagons and/or the xata/damdy/me thing.
So scum lean very similar to DF.
Think DF is a tiny bit more scummy.
oneg/eden/rels are perfectly null.
rayn is a weak ass town lean. maybe better phrased as something between null and town.
koshi I got some weird vibes of these posts:
On March 17 2017 08:45 Koshi wrote:
disformation hasn't made a really bad post yet. Damdred made 2.

On March 17 2017 08:55 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 08:48 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 08:45 Koshi wrote:
disformation hasn't made a really bad post yet. Damdred made 2.


Who needs one really bad post when you can have a generally crappy overall filter?

Kinda surprised you haven't picked up on how incredibly defensive disformation was tbqh. His opening posts were blendy, then he segued into a hard-to-follow discussion, then reacted poorly to my 'questioning' and then fucked off.

I don't see how Damdred is comparable.

Yes. Disformation his filter is crappy. But is he mafia?

Hard to explain. I just think town koshi would be roasting me more. xD
but then we got:
On March 17 2017 18:42 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 18:07 disformation wrote:
Brings me to another point: for me being fairly NAI which you admitted here:
On March 17 2017 08:01 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:58 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:56 Calix wrote:
On March 17 2017 07:54 disformation wrote:
*sigh*
Like xata had like 3 posts at this time, so the only reason (imo) damdy could have had to SR xata would have been in the reaction about the setup stuff. which is possible to come from scum. i personally went bleh.
which is why went like "well its better than smilies, but still crap" (which is why i didnt do anything about it)

in the opposite direction is the question whether damdies "push" on xata could be a scum push, but upon his explanation and no vote being in the voting thread I think its more likely damdy wanted to get some discussion/shit started.


Okay, I'm starting to think you're mafia from your reactions here.

Nothing to do with what you're saying, really, it's more that you sound very tense and defensive and like you have a massive stick up your arse for no real reason once people started engaging with you.

It's a different vibe from what I get from Damdred and Xatalos who seem more chill and willing to get shit done.

##vote disformation

#selfmeta:
read any of my games. they are found in my profile. =D


Sure, it's possible I am just misreading you based on something that's NAI for you...but I feel like the chat was more chill and then you disrupted that vibe and you're on the defense a lot.

So I'm more inclined to think you're mafia until you actually do something, lol.

You seem pretty bend on calling me scum, without room for consideration.

Hmm not true. She is leaving you outs but you are not taking them. Which is very bad for you. Like... she is clearly trying to make you say something good, but you are not. Which makes her top town, and you very mafia. Town defends and attacks, mafia just defends.

##unvote
##vote disformation

which sounds much more like something I expect from town!koshi.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 12:16 GMT
#304
though i'd like koshi to explain why he switched from damdred to oneg like that.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 12:20 GMT
#306
back to working.
random thought on xata though:
i dont think it would make sense for both xata and calix to be scum and go ham on me like that.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 12:23 GMT
#309
On March 17 2017 21:19 Xatalos wrote:
Hmm.... so you just pulled my "reaction" to Eden out of thin air? >.> Why?

And how is Damdred's reasoning worse than.... nothing pulled out of thin air? (granted, Damdred was joking, but you clearly thought he was serious back then)

because I wanted to see if I can find the reason why damdred was scumreading you, as I thought he was serious, as you pointed out.
Since that would have possibly allowed me insight into your and/or damdies alignment.
So I was like really looking forward to see what damdy found... then he goes like "lol he posted a smiley, clearly scum" and I go "wat? I was expecting something real good, even my bleh stuff is better than _that_"
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 12:31 GMT
#312
Ugh dunno. Like probably something got lost in me not getting that damdred was joking and then being super disappointed he had no super awesome read on you.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 12:34 GMT
#313
On March 17 2017 21:23 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 21:20 disformation wrote:
back to working.
random thought on xata though:
i dont think it would make sense for both xata and calix to be scum and go ham on me like that.


Question.

You have similar reads to myself. Has this factored into your analysis and if not, why?

Some of them are weirdly similar. Your TW read is almost identical to mine.

You are right, I actually liked your last list (minus me on it :p). Also basically everyone in the game besides me (which includes my town reads) seems to call you super town.
Fair chance i'm just in omgus land.
lemme think about a bit more after getting more work done.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 12:44 GMT
#315
On March 17 2017 21:37 Xatalos wrote:
Mehh.... I'll keep my vote on you for the time being. I was hoping for some sort of logical explanation, but I guess it was just scum posting without genuine thought behind it (or town with a serious thought/communication meltdown - looking a bit more possible after all this.....).

Question: after me who would be your preferred lynch?
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 12:45 GMT
#316
Or ignoring me. or however you want to phrase it xD
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 17 2017 13:48 GMT
#319
On March 17 2017 21:55 Xatalos wrote:
I'll look more closely once I'm home. Tentatively Tumble could be OK since the only impression I got of him was null/negative even though he posted some posts.

Fair enough.
Looking at Calix again I think this one explains one of the problems I had with her push on me:
On March 17 2017 18:09 Calix wrote:
I said early on that you 'were on the defense a lot'. Looking at that now, I guess that doesn't really convey my "you're not contributing much of your own" point though.

Together with the facts that a lot of ppl townread her and we share a lot of reads, I am getting fairly waffly.

meh. dunno. like not that sure anymore if she is scum pushing me or town pushing me. guess I would lynch a bunch of ppl before her. df, tw the three questions marks, maybe mal.
On March 17 2017 17:51 disformation wrote:
Not a fan how DF mentions this:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2017 09:22 darthfoley wrote:
actually nvm the op doesn't include letters regarding the setups. so maybe town points for trying to clarify what Eden meant?

but then goes on to ignore xata/damdy/me

##vote: darthfoley
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