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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 22 2017 11:55 GMT
#2315
On March 22 2017 20:53 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 20:44 Koshi wrote:
On March 22 2017 20:43 AMG wrote:
On March 22 2017 20:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why not Xatalos?

I guess i'm starting to buy into the inept scum team theory.

What is your proof? Except meta from a game you once played. Cuz that is fucking shit.


I'm not leaning on meta from a game played 2 years ago to justify my lack of scum reads.

I genuinely believed town was on the wrong track yesterday.

You forgot the proof.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 22 2017 12:57 GMT
#2331
On March 22 2017 21:16 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 20:43 Koshi wrote:
It comes down to:

Onegu is cancer.

Darthfoley has a good D2 filter. He stopped dirt shoveling. Had maybe 2 posts in which he was too sure Eden was mafia.
On March 22 2017 05:26 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn still hasn't given me any reason to his apparent reason for town reading Eden even after Calix and I have asked directly for an answer.

Idk why you're being obstinate with people that actually think you're town


On March 22 2017 05:28 darthfoley wrote:
Like Eden is very likely mafia. He's done nothing since pressure was put on him. How the fuck could we let him live today

Also was maybe dirt shoveling in the first post.

AMG is not solving the game and is putting paranoia in the thread.


How do those DF quotes show mafia motivations precisely? I do not see a gap between his read and his read confidence in those posts.

I don't know what mafia motivation is. But once mafia decides to bus, they tend to overcompensate. Here df might have overcompensated.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 22 2017 23:35 GMT
#2434
I just had the best day of my life. If I died, I would have died a happy man.
I'll catch up tomorrow. gn boys. RIP girl.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 23 2017 09:00 GMT
#2459
Meh I can't claim cop here. It's just not useful. The real cop needs to come out even if he has no checks and sits within df, Xatalos, Onegu, AMG. Or has 2 checks within these names.

I need to work hard today though. But I'll find time to play and figure this out. My head is so clouded though. First bad game in like 5 months. Or longer :/
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 23 2017 10:12 GMT
#2463
On March 23 2017 19:09 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I actually also need to reread stuff on disformation. I dont like the fact he does a lot of things (aka filters people and posts stuff on them) and always ends up back to "i need to filter X Y Z".

That's what he does from start to finish. Annoying to play at first but you just got to let him be and take the information. disformation is a pretty solid nickname.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 23 2017 10:13 GMT
#2464
Eden makes disformation solid town for at least today. 4 names. Got to start there.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 23 2017 11:13 GMT
#2474
Calix her reads during night are nothing special.
- Disformation is town
- Post about AMG and Onegu being potential scum. But not decisive.
On March 22 2017 21:23 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 21:20 Xatalos wrote:
On March 22 2017 21:14 Calix wrote:
Hello, allow me to ignore everything that's being discussed right now to say that if Oh-ne-gu is mafia, he's probably Godfather for his poorly-substantiated "Xatalos is the Cop who green-checked me" theory.

Someone point out if there are any holes in this theory of mine.


Would really like an explanation from him. It's an interesting idea though. Maybe he was hoping to be cleared by Cop and got over-excited and misunderstood because of that?


It's the scummiest thing he's done since his focus was on 'confirming' himself and not on the actual events going on in the thread or on finding mafia (since his ritoky/ rayn theory was debunked big-time and all he did was 'sheep' his town-reads onto Eden).

Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 21:19 Xatalos wrote:
On March 22 2017 21:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2017 20:46 Xatalos wrote:
Seems like disfo had about the same thoughts on AMG as I did.

But you just said "AMG even pushed against Eden lynch" which has been your main reason for scumreading hi -> try to save Eden. And you agree with disformation in "AMG didnt really look like he was trying to get his scumread lynched".

Those two are 100% mutually exclusive.


AMG didn't hard deflect away from Eden, but close enough. Enough to say that in hindsight his D2 play was probably the most scum-favoring.

I mean he did kind of try to get the lynch anywhere else if possible, but didn't hard push on his own. Latched onto my wagon very easily though.


AMG defending Eden so much isn't necessarily scum-indicative but the fact that he's yet to do any real scum-hunting in the 40-odd hours he's been in the game is concerning.

- And then Onegu as only real scumread in the night.
On March 22 2017 21:14 Calix wrote:
Hello, allow me to ignore everything that's being discussed right now to say that if Oh-ne-gu is mafia, he's probably Godfather for his poorly-substantiated "Xatalos is the Cop who green-checked me" theory.

Someone point out if there are any holes in this theory of mine.

I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 23 2017 11:20 GMT
#2475
Can somebody look up recent Onegu games? I can't cuz on teamliquiddota.
Preferably a mafia game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 23 2017 11:26 GMT
#2477
Last pages of darthfoley is setup talk and then Eden is mafia talk. Nothing else. If he isn't the cop he is mafia. He completely stopped playing the game after and during getting the Eden bus cred.
And I still didn't forget about that lie he told to put me under suspicion.

Far out the best bet on mafia. Far far.

##vote darthfoley
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 23 2017 11:26 GMT
#2479
Look at darthfoley his last 3 pages rayn. There is nothing.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 23 2017 11:29 GMT
#2480
Which is basically Onegu his filter but still..
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 23 2017 11:32 GMT
#2482
Ohhh. I also know again why I had Damdred as solid town, when somebody asked. I remembered it this morning.
ritoky had him as solid town. And I just saw that Eden voted for him.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 23 2017 11:32 GMT
#2483
good stuff
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 23 2017 11:36 GMT
#2485
On March 23 2017 20:11 AMG wrote:
I like DF for town. I get the feeling that his questioning is genuine, trying to figure things out.

On March 23 2017 20:12 AMG wrote:
His frustration with Rels comes off as super genuine.

This is super stupid reasoning.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 23 2017 11:40 GMT
#2486
He has too many townreads. And they are too "correct". Compilation time.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 23 2017 11:41 GMT
#2487
On March 21 2017 13:40 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2017 13:27 darthfoley wrote:
On March 21 2017 12:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Let's assume you're right. Now why does ritoky (who isn't even nearly the most townread person in the game) die?


I've thought of a few scenarios and maybe you can provide some insight

1. Kill ritoky because ritoky has historically good reads on someone/someones in the game. Is ritoky very stubborn? How does he go after people? There could be motivation to off a veteran player who has looked over stuff with fresh eyes.

2. I think it's more likely that ritoky symbolized a nice mix of everything mafia might try to hit during the night. Blue hunting, also not likely to be saved by medic, plus my previous point.

3. Scum is in a much better situation than the town thinks currently, and wants to provide the town with as little information as possible. Which is exactly what happened

4. Simplest yet improbable. Ritoky was right about Eden and his other reads (outside of me of course!) and mafia went for the direct kill to silence him. I find this incredibly short sighted and unlikely to be the sole reason because Eden (if eden is scum) and his partners have not attempted to discredit ritoky. Eden hasn't come back to the game. I just don't see the sole motivation being ritoky's Eden read like some have implied when Eden is (in this scenario) AFK scum.

5. Frame onto ritoky's scum reads. Plausible but probably not optimal considering Eden already had a lot of pressure on him


3 is what I'm worried about. I get the distinct feeling a few people are in kickback and relax mode, which is laughable since we haven't flipped a single scum yet. Process of elim thinking is making people lazy.

5 is always possible. I would not discount that this is what has happened.
I like you.

Would be funny if both are mafia. That initial post was so mafia orientated it hurt my soul.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 23 2017 11:45 GMT
#2488
Hmm. AMG only reads Eden, disinformation, Calix, TW and myself town early. I thought it were more people. meh.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 23 2017 11:47 GMT
#2490
Fuck I don't want to reread Xatalos.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 23 2017 11:49 GMT
#2494
On March 23 2017 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi why are you trolling me? You have to be the cop and no mafia is gonna cc anything here...

I am not cop though. Or I forgot to do all my checks.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 23 2017 11:50 GMT
#2496
Nope not cop
I had a good night of sleep.
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