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On March 21 2017 19:56 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2017 19:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 21 2017 19:17 disformation wrote:
@rayn do you have an opinion on agm yet? Yes. Trying to filter dive on phone is so annoying. Read AMG. Basically a massive hipster. Black sheep. Has new points for chat. Expresses paranoia over wagons. However I don't see a real/sustained effort to move the wagon away from Eden (which I read as scummy). Not even voting. Tone slightly off on Damdred interactions like he's talking down to Damdred. Don't know why he dislikes Xatalos (is he sheepish Rayn's reasoning?). That's all I can remember.
from something he said about koshi i am assuming he is like an oldschooler and knows like koshi, damdy, etc.. so he could be dissappoint of damdy? agreeing with you on the other points.
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On March 21 2017 20:43 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2017 17:47 disformation wrote:
eden/agm/df
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(not 100% on df though) I like this team. What is your read on Onegu?
1eg is still fairly nullish. i think i had some small tone related things that made lean sliiiightly townish, but I fear it is nothing scum!1eg couldn't fake.
typical oneg things like:
On March 21 2017 04:18 Onegu wrote:
The fact that Koshi isnt shouting from the rooftops that I am scum has me highly doubtful about him.
The fact Rayn isnt bitching about me more has me worried.
Calix doing so makes her town.
Xata is town.
Everyone else I have little to comment on.
oneg centric reads.
and his dbs thing here:
On March 19 2017 02:42 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 00:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 18 2017 00:51 Koshi wrote:On March 18 2017 00:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 18 2017 00:35 Koshi wrote:@rayn. I am liking Damdred atm. This is a good post. On March 17 2017 22:40 Damdred wrote:
I think mal posts are suspect and I think he ignored my post about who the scum were on dis and my wagons at the time having an easy time. Id put him in the scummy category.
Tumble is interesting I think, chides me for trying to form a town circle when that's exactly what I do early every game and I'm almost always right. I think it's just super weird way to go about it especially without explaining why I'm wrong on the vets I wanted to town read. Bottom of null for me.
As for your question xata, he just has no deviation from his story idk if I see scum doing it without trying to backtrack meh.
Also where did deep go, just kinda peace out once people stopped suspecting him and hasn't been back. Not saying lunch able just worrying. I don't. The last part makes no sense and is not a reason to "doubt" anyone. The Tumble read is also bad (as you pointed it out now). There is nothing weird in saying "these people are too good to be read town early on for their posting". There is nothing wrong in that. There is nothing interesting in that, it doesn't mean anything since Tumble just pointed out (in case he is town - which i am quite sure he is) what he believes to be true, and it makes sense. No. I understand the doubting on the DBS read. DBS is more likely town than mafia, way more likely. But if he is mafia, he had it pretty easy so far. But there is no reason to doubt a townread on him atm. You jsut don't "doubt" something unless they do something scummy (which is not something DBS has done). Especially coming from Damdred who has a tendency to afk for large amount of times in games lately. It's just bs to even imply DBS could be mafia for that because it's never something that is associated with one's alignment. UGG Rayn that huge post on why he did scummy things and basically pointed out why he was scum but wasnt because of reasons was scummy... DBS called himself scum in a post. Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 08:18 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:On March 17 2017 08:10 Calix wrote:On March 17 2017 08:09 DeepBlueSea89 wrote:On March 17 2017 08:06 Damdred wrote:
Ok so since dis going to go for a bit.
I think xata and cal are both town right now.
Deepblue is moving towards scummy territory with the fearless read of koshi being town for no real reason I guess? Probable scum post. Why? It just seemed like an easy jump and the thought process felt shallow. Here's how I see it: 1. Scum typically lurk (at least more often than not) and I've scumread people in the past who answer irrelevant fluff questions without participating in the major discussion in the thread at the time especially early on in the game. 2. Koshi asked me a question. 3. I ignore everything else (the discussion between Xatalos and Damdred for instance) and respond to that pretty much instantly. 4. This shows I was reading the thread and refreshing it fairly often even if I'm not commenting. That's more often than not something scum do although there were extenuating circumstances here. 5. Koshi picked up on it and asked why I was lurking. That showed me he was on the lookout for possible scum even outside the major thread of discussion. So, I think he's probably town. It's not solid but that's the best read I have this early on. 6. Damdred I think missed the subtext entirely. He just threw out a shallow read "oh, he's appeasing someone who engaged him so he could be scum." It's just an easy read on someone he thinks would be an easy target. He doesn't really wonder why I townread Koshi or even straight up ask me. Why are you townreading Damdred? Like this post is just wrong to me and feels scummy. Then says he has said nothing scummy? BLEH.
oneg also really likes playing scum, so i would kinda expect something more fancy here.
like a video where he scum slips. =D
i wish i could learn more from his rayn/koshi call outs. but i fear i am not familiar with that dynamic.
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yeah eden showing up and posting something would be grand.
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so yeah if i am wrong with adam or df it might be oneg?
for some reason i just dont see eden/oneg/agm... prolly just cause that feels too lame xD
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On March 21 2017 20:52 AMG wrote:
Actually, on that Koshi, you think I subbed into this game, saw myself and both my teammates were borderline terminal, ....and chucked town reads at both of them?
hhhhhmmmmmrmrmmmmm... its fairly wifom, but i dont hate it.
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i will dub thee gma, the returned btw.
you were a wandering knight who just returned from a great quest and saw the kingdom in great disarray upon your return.
the quest is if you will try to restore order or fan the flames for personal gain and glory
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EBWOP:
i will dub thee gma, the returned btw.
you were a wandering knight who just returned from a great quest and saw the kingdom in great disarray upon your return.
the question now is if you will try to restore order or fan the flames for personal gain and glory
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On March 21 2017 21:26 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2017 20:52 AMG wrote:
Actually, on that Koshi, you think I subbed into this game, saw myself and both my teammates were borderline terminal, ....and chucked town reads at both of them? No. I asked about the replacement because of that  My team is df/Eden/disformation. But I couldn't ask disformation about disformation.
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On March 21 2017 21:24 Calix wrote:Also Dork, would love to see you ISO me sometime Have yet to see proper analysis on me from you.
aight will do later. unfortunatly stuck on phone again.
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the fuck did you guys 10+ pages of thread while I wasnt looking.
guess ill make myself a tea and find out.
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why are ppl unvoting me when i wasnt even around? usually it works the other way around.
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Oh. I was hoping that a scummer would try to get me lynched over eden and make it easy for me. will still have to look at the ppl who where voting me later. dont think any of them where that into it. can't remember why df was voting me.
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On March 22 2017 00:16 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 07:15 Xatalos wrote:
Eden's case isn't actually horrible. It's true that Calix jumped to scumreading disfo a bit quickly/strongly and stuck with it until it no longer had steam. The reason for dropping it wasn't the best either... "at least he's doing something now" after listing various other reasons to scumread him, which weren't really addressed? Or were they somewhere?
I could be biased because Eden praised my townieness so greatly.
I'll be around closer to the deadline, but probably not very much for the next 15-20 hours or so. Shows guilt Show nested quote +On March 19 2017 00:51 Xatalos wrote:
Foley seems OK'ish for now, I guess? He talks a lot in a focused manner (focused on doing useful things). Kind of jumps to quick snap judgments. His reads aren't too far from my own, just a couple of people in different places. Pretty... null / slight town lean? Not really the best D1 lynch IMO Not sure if I like this read on Foley. Too generic. Should actually check if his reads really line up with those of darth. Show nested quote +On March 19 2017 00:55 Xatalos wrote:
Eden seemed kind of OK? At least his Calix case actually made me reconsider Calix - no matter if it's right or wrong, at least he seems to do things and not just lurk by. So much bad in this sentence. 1) Soft defense on Eden for no reason. 2) And who says "I considered scumreading Calix due to this case, it doesn't matter if the case is wrong"? He doesn't say it like that. But he acknowledges the fact it could very well be wrong. 3) So twice he hides behind Eden case to scumread Calix.... Feels like what he did to me and rayn. Show nested quote +On March 19 2017 01:04 Xatalos wrote:On March 19 2017 00:54 Calix wrote:On March 19 2017 00:41 Xatalos wrote:On March 18 2017 22:12 Damdred wrote:
Xata or anyone who on the mal wagon makes you super skeptical? rayn isn't even on his wagon, but he's pushed Mal nonetheless, and with very weak reasons IMO (which is more typical of his scumplay). Still not sure about disfo, and not completely sure about Calix either. Mainly it's because there hasn't been any meaningful opposition, but just scattered votes all around. That rarely leads to a correct lunch. Yeah, about that. On March 18 2017 07:15 Xatalos wrote:
Eden's case isn't actually horrible. It's true that Calix jumped to scumreading disfo a bit quickly/strongly and stuck with it until it no longer had steam. The reason for dropping it wasn't the best either... "at least he's doing something now" after listing various other reasons to scumread him, which weren't really addressed? Or were they somewhere?
I could be biased because Eden praised my townieness so greatly.
I'll be around closer to the deadline, but probably not very much for the next 15-20 hours or so. I'm confused as to why you think it's suspect for me to have pushed disformation 'a bit quickly/ strongly and stuck with it' when you agreed with all of my points and spent more time talking about it than I did? My point here being that since you acted in a similar way, it doesn't make sense for you to then agree with Eden when he calls out the same behaviour in me. And I still don't get how Eden calling you top town influences your response to his case. In general, I think Eden has not been talked about as much as I was expecting him to be. @Damdred, can you expand on your Eden read? Well, it's not like I think you're sure scum like he implied or anything. Just that his reasoning kind of made sense to me. You did jump to scumread him very quickly, and a bit too strongly considering the reasoning (tone) maybe... and kind of left the wagon to roll until it died? And abandoned the wagon just like that even though your other points weren't really addressed, just the confusion part that I was mostly suspicious of? Dunno. I can see the scum motivation in that. But then again, you've been pretty active and contributing very, so I don't have any motivation to pursue the matter. When confronted by Calix he is very apologetic. While he should try to figure out if the case is either correct or false.Xatalos, why feul the Eden case and incriminate Calix but then don't do anything yourself when Calix confronts you?
did you check eden's filter for eden on xatalos. it was also in my stuff on xata.
if eden is scum eden might have town spewed xata.
i agree that that the interactions from xatas side didnt look good though.
(bolded by the author)
On March 18 2017 04:57 Eden1892 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 18 2017 04:23 darthfoley wrote:
I'd like your overall reads when you have them Eden I don't have a lot yet and I'm sure outside of Calix, none of it is interesting. Top town is Xatalos followed shortly by rayn and Koshi. Top scum is Calix. Damdred has said a lot without a lot jumping out at me one way or another. I don't recall having this much difficulty discerning any feeling about his alignment when he's one of the more active posters in the thread before. Not really sure what to make of it yet, and to be fair to him, my relative disconnectedness from this game compared to past ones on here is probably to blame. I think disformation is lock town if I'm right about Calix. Pretty sure Calix is scum and spewed disfo town. Loved this post by disfo as well: Show nested quote +On March 17 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come. 1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read 2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads 3) "look how much work i already did" if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place I don't get the Malongo wagon having so many votes. He's a giant blank right now and it's weird that a wagon on a straight null poster got so much traction so quick. Makes me think that there were multiple mafia driving the early discussion and managed to get attention centered on a townie with weak/no thread presence. The alternative is that Malongo is mafia and his team can't do anything to stop the town, in which case this game is easy and I'm not worried anyway. That's about all I got that I think matters right now.
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like. i would be more inclined to believe xata and eden were a team if the interactions were poor in both directions.
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and i still think eden is very likely scum
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like where the hell is eden?
though i have to admit this line of thinking didnt work very well on mal -.-
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random things
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if i remember correctly calix generally isnt a big fan of meta, so i am a bit worried she seems to use a bunch of meta today.
On March 22 2017 00:33 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 00:27 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2017 00:25 Calix wrote:On March 22 2017 00:19 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2017 00:13 Calix wrote:On March 22 2017 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 00:10 Calix wrote:Another day, another shit-fight between rayn and Xatalos. Good to see I haven't missed anything  Why did you think i am mafia for his fucking shit-tier case? Saying "you made a good point" =/= "I think rayn is mafia" Please read and stop clogging up the fucking chat. I can't wait for you to get shanked N2 so I don't have to waste my time skimming over pages and pages and PAGES of pointless bickering -_- Eeuhm. At least rayn is shitfighting against his scumread who is not being lynched at all by town. So it is completely warranted. FYI you and your buddy UN are way worse. You fill pages for nothing. Pls don't act so high and mighty We're not buddies. He's a fucking creep, of course I don't like him. I don't know whether Xatalos is 100% town because while there are good points against him, he's a lot different from when I was scum with him. Are the points rayn makes not applicable to scum Xatalos? Why? He seems more stubborn and isn't hedging the shit out of everything he says. Like maybe I am biased because I knew he was mafia then but I am pretty sure his typing style is different this game. Meaning town. rayn keeps saying he isn't like his town games but that's not the same as saying they're like his scum games. This is extremely meta-based for a town read. I don't know if rayn made this point but because of that, his agreeability and going with whatever pinged me so that was why I was a bit suspicious of Xatalos, when I argued with him, but eh.
On March 22 2017 01:02 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 00:58 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2017 00:56 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Both vote for me instead of Eden. I need a couple of hours to figure this shit out. Why in the name of all that is holy would you risk your own life as JK? Or claim in the first place, if I might ask? I would never do either of those actions as a blue, and you're very willing to abandon your role usage for some thread clout. Why would he do it as mafia? Why ask this question? And why are you ignoring my 3 posts I made on you? Sorry, I was keeping up with the thread on my phone in short bursts earlier. Didn't read your posts in detail. I'll get to them eventually. Could you maybe summarize your case? Because like a couple of pages ago I was your top town, now top scum. The change is really radical. As scum his actions would make a lot of sense. Gain some credibility by fakeclaiming (especially in a vanilla setup), direct the lynch away from himself/Eden, maybe get 1-2 mislynches before getting caught. If it's not a vanilla setup, he could alternatively catch the blues before going down. As town..... just why would he abandon his crucial role with ease and even want people to vote for him vs me? As scum he would certainly want that, since it'd be easier to win him vs me than Eden vs me.
didnt xata have some super "good" blue-read-thing with 1eg? not sure if he explained that at some point. not sure if someone asked that already
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On March 22 2017 03:43 Tumblewood wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 03:41 disformation wrote:
like where the hell is eden?
though i have to admit this line of thinking didnt work very well on mal -.- ah yes, the old "bring up a point and then discard it" (eden would show up as either alignment)
aight. either try and get me lynched if you think i am scum or do something else productive.
wasting your vote and/or random shade throwing on me wont help you progress the game.
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On March 22 2017 03:49 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 03:46 disformation wrote:random things
: if i remember correctly calix generally isnt a big fan of meta, so i am a bit worried she seems to use a bunch of meta today. On March 22 2017 00:33 Calix wrote:On March 22 2017 00:27 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2017 00:25 Calix wrote:On March 22 2017 00:19 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2017 00:13 Calix wrote:On March 22 2017 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:On March 22 2017 00:10 Calix wrote:Another day, another shit-fight between rayn and Xatalos. Good to see I haven't missed anything Why did you think i am mafia for his fucking shit-tier case? Saying "you made a good point" =/= "I think rayn is mafia" Please read and stop clogging up the fucking chat. I can't wait for you to get shanked N2 so I don't have to waste my time skimming over pages and pages and PAGES of pointless bickering -_- Eeuhm. At least rayn is shitfighting against his scumread who is not being lynched at all by town. So it is completely warranted. FYI you and your buddy UN are way worse. You fill pages for nothing. Pls don't act so high and mighty We're not buddies. He's a fucking creep, of course I don't like him. I don't know whether Xatalos is 100% town because while there are good points against him, he's a lot different from when I was scum with him. Are the points rayn makes not applicable to scum Xatalos? Why? He seems more stubborn and isn't hedging the shit out of everything he says. Like maybe I am biased because I knew he was mafia then but I am pretty sure his typing style is different this game. Meaning town. rayn keeps saying he isn't like his town games but that's not the same as saying they're like his scum games. This is extremely meta-based for a town read. I don't know if rayn made this point but because of that, his agreeability and going with whatever pinged me so that was why I was a bit suspicious of Xatalos, when I argued with him, but eh.
On March 22 2017 01:02 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 00:58 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2017 00:56 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Both vote for me instead of Eden. I need a couple of hours to figure this shit out. Why in the name of all that is holy would you risk your own life as JK? Or claim in the first place, if I might ask? I would never do either of those actions as a blue, and you're very willing to abandon your role usage for some thread clout. Why would he do it as mafia? Why ask this question? And why are you ignoring my 3 posts I made on you? Sorry, I was keeping up with the thread on my phone in short bursts earlier. Didn't read your posts in detail. I'll get to them eventually. Could you maybe summarize your case? Because like a couple of pages ago I was your top town, now top scum. The change is really radical. As scum his actions would make a lot of sense. Gain some credibility by fakeclaiming (especially in a vanilla setup), direct the lynch away from himself/Eden, maybe get 1-2 mislynches before getting caught. If it's not a vanilla setup, he could alternatively catch the blues before going down. As town..... just why would he abandon his crucial role with ease and even want people to vote for him vs me? As scum he would certainly want that, since it'd be easier to win him vs me than Eden vs me. didnt xata have some super "good" blue-read-thing with 1eg? not sure if he explained that at some point. not sure if someone asked that already Super good? It turned out to be a misunderstanding.
ah. lemme look at some time stamps. because i think you also brought it up before it turned out to be a misunderstanding.
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On March 22 2017 03:54 Xatalos wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2017 03:51 disformation wrote:On March 22 2017 03:49 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 03:46 disformation wrote:random things
: if i remember correctly calix generally isnt a big fan of meta, so i am a bit worried she seems to use a bunch of meta today. On March 22 2017 00:33 Calix wrote:On March 22 2017 00:27 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2017 00:25 Calix wrote:On March 22 2017 00:19 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2017 00:13 Calix wrote:On March 22 2017 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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Why did you think i am mafia for his fucking shit-tier case? Saying "you made a good point" =/= "I think rayn is mafia" Please read and stop clogging up the fucking chat. I can't wait for you to get shanked N2 so I don't have to waste my time skimming over pages and pages and PAGES of pointless bickering -_- Eeuhm. At least rayn is shitfighting against his scumread who is not being lynched at all by town. So it is completely warranted. FYI you and your buddy UN are way worse. You fill pages for nothing. Pls don't act so high and mighty We're not buddies. He's a fucking creep, of course I don't like him. I don't know whether Xatalos is 100% town because while there are good points against him, he's a lot different from when I was scum with him. Are the points rayn makes not applicable to scum Xatalos? Why? He seems more stubborn and isn't hedging the shit out of everything he says. Like maybe I am biased because I knew he was mafia then but I am pretty sure his typing style is different this game. Meaning town. rayn keeps saying he isn't like his town games but that's not the same as saying they're like his scum games. This is extremely meta-based for a town read. I don't know if rayn made this point but because of that, his agreeability and going with whatever pinged me so that was why I was a bit suspicious of Xatalos, when I argued with him, but eh.
On March 22 2017 01:02 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 00:58 Koshi wrote:On March 22 2017 00:56 Xatalos wrote:On March 22 2017 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Both vote for me instead of Eden. I need a couple of hours to figure this shit out. Why in the name of all that is holy would you risk your own life as JK? Or claim in the first place, if I might ask? I would never do either of those actions as a blue, and you're very willing to abandon your role usage for some thread clout. Why would he do it as mafia? Why ask this question? And why are you ignoring my 3 posts I made on you? Sorry, I was keeping up with the thread on my phone in short bursts earlier. Didn't read your posts in detail. I'll get to them eventually. Could you maybe summarize your case? Because like a couple of pages ago I was your top town, now top scum. The change is really radical. As scum his actions would make a lot of sense. Gain some credibility by fakeclaiming (especially in a vanilla setup), direct the lynch away from himself/Eden, maybe get 1-2 mislynches before getting caught. If it's not a vanilla setup, he could alternatively catch the blues before going down. As town..... just why would he abandon his crucial role with ease and even want people to vote for him vs me? As scum he would certainly want that, since it'd be easier to win him vs me than Eden vs me. didnt xata have some super "good" blue-read-thing with 1eg? not sure if he explained that at some point. not sure if someone asked that already Super good? It turned out to be a misunderstanding. ah. lemme look at some time stamps. because i think you also brought it up before it turned out to be a misunderstanding. We had an exchange where I misunderstood what he was talking about. I thought he talked about Eden's post "the setup isn't all vanilla btw" since that was the only claim-like post in the thread. He apparently thought I had claimed Cop though.....? Still not sure.
ah yeah you were asked about that stuff already and answered that. sokay.
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