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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2017 20:44 GMT
#2099
On March 22 2017 03:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Xatalos is mafia. Calix is mafia.
Scared. So scared. Koshi knows this.

rayn you better take a step back. I am 99% sure Calix is never mafia in this game. It is even extremely obvious to me.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2017 20:48 GMT
#2107
On March 22 2017 05:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
i really really am ready to ruin the game to just make her feel so fucking bad rn.....

TAKE A FUCKING STEP BACK WTF?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2017 20:49 GMT
#2108
On March 22 2017 05:47 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 05:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
so you can go back to your fucking retarded MS or whatever if you want to but never call me some fucking scrub who cant play mafia, because you will never win.


Sure thing, scrub.


stfu and stop posting. Go away.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2017 21:02 GMT
#2116
On March 22 2017 05:52 disformation wrote:
koshi i had a point for you earlier about xata:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 03:35 disformation wrote:
On March 22 2017 00:16 Koshi wrote:
On March 18 2017 07:15 Xatalos wrote:
Eden's case isn't actually horrible. It's true that Calix jumped to scumreading disfo a bit quickly/strongly and stuck with it until it no longer had steam. The reason for dropping it wasn't the best either... "at least he's doing something now" after listing various other reasons to scumread him, which weren't really addressed? Or were they somewhere?

I could be biased because Eden praised my townieness so greatly.

I'll be around closer to the deadline, but probably not very much for the next 15-20 hours or so.

Shows guilt

On March 19 2017 00:51 Xatalos wrote:
Foley seems OK'ish for now, I guess? He talks a lot in a focused manner (focused on doing useful things). Kind of jumps to quick snap judgments. His reads aren't too far from my own, just a couple of people in different places. Pretty... null / slight town lean? Not really the best D1 lynch IMO

Not sure if I like this read on Foley. Too generic. Should actually check if his reads really line up with those of darth.

On March 19 2017 00:55 Xatalos wrote:
Eden seemed kind of OK? At least his Calix case actually made me reconsider Calix - no matter if it's right or wrong, at least he seems to do things and not just lurk by.

So much bad in this sentence.
1) Soft defense on Eden for no reason.
2) And who says "I considered scumreading Calix due to this case, it doesn't matter if the case is wrong"? He doesn't say it like that. But he acknowledges the fact it could very well be wrong.
3) So twice he hides behind Eden case to scumread Calix.... Feels like what he did to me and rayn.

On March 19 2017 01:04 Xatalos wrote:
On March 19 2017 00:54 Calix wrote:
On March 19 2017 00:41 Xatalos wrote:
On March 18 2017 22:12 Damdred wrote:
Xata or anyone who on the mal wagon makes you super skeptical?


rayn isn't even on his wagon, but he's pushed Mal nonetheless, and with very weak reasons IMO (which is more typical of his scumplay). Still not sure about disfo, and not completely sure about Calix either. Mainly it's because there hasn't been any meaningful opposition, but just scattered votes all around. That rarely leads to a correct lunch.


Yeah, about that.

On March 18 2017 07:15 Xatalos wrote:
Eden's case isn't actually horrible. It's true that Calix jumped to scumreading disfo a bit quickly/strongly and stuck with it until it no longer had steam. The reason for dropping it wasn't the best either... "at least he's doing something now" after listing various other reasons to scumread him, which weren't really addressed? Or were they somewhere?

I could be biased because Eden praised my townieness so greatly.

I'll be around closer to the deadline, but probably not very much for the next 15-20 hours or so.


I'm confused as to why you think it's suspect for me to have pushed disformation 'a bit quickly/ strongly and stuck with it' when you agreed with all of my points and spent more time talking about it than I did? My point here being that since you acted in a similar way, it doesn't make sense for you to then agree with Eden when he calls out the same behaviour in me.

And I still don't get how Eden calling you top town influences your response to his case.

In general, I think Eden has not been talked about as much as I was expecting him to be.

@Damdred, can you expand on your Eden read?


Well, it's not like I think you're sure scum like he implied or anything. Just that his reasoning kind of made sense to me. You did jump to scumread him very quickly, and a bit too strongly considering the reasoning (tone) maybe... and kind of left the wagon to roll until it died? And abandoned the wagon just like that even though your other points weren't really addressed, just the confusion part that I was mostly suspicious of? Dunno. I can see the scum motivation in that. But then again, you've been pretty active and contributing very, so I don't have any motivation to pursue the matter.

When confronted by Calix he is very apologetic. While he should try to figure out if the case is either correct or false.Xatalos, why feul the Eden case and incriminate Calix but then don't do anything yourself when Calix confronts you?

did you check eden's filter for eden on xatalos. it was also in my stuff on xata.
if eden is scum eden might have town spewed xata.
i agree that that the interactions from xatas side didnt look good though.
(bolded by the author)
On March 18 2017 04:57 Eden1892 wrote:
On March 18 2017 04:23 darthfoley wrote:
I'd like your overall reads when you have them Eden

I don't have a lot yet and I'm sure outside of Calix, none of it is interesting.

Top town is Xatalos followed shortly by rayn and Koshi.
Top scum is Calix.

Damdred has said a lot without a lot jumping out at me one way or another. I don't recall having this much difficulty discerning any feeling about his alignment when he's one of the more active posters in the thread before. Not really sure what to make of it yet, and to be fair to him, my relative disconnectedness from this game compared to past ones on here is probably to blame.

I think disformation is lock town if I'm right about Calix. Pretty sure Calix is scum and spewed disfo town. Loved this post by disfo as well:
On March 17 2017 18:05 disformation wrote:
On March 17 2017 17:58 Calix wrote:
Explain scum motivation for calling multiple people town this early on and stating that I do not want to lynch them today. I'd like to see the inevitable bullshit which is sure to come.

1) Push someone weak so you have a scum read
2) get lazy and give the rest lazy town reads
3) "look how much work i already did"

if shit happens you can still easily backtrack, since its early and the trs where fairly weak in the first place


I don't get the Malongo wagon having so many votes. He's a giant blank right now and it's weird that a wagon on a straight null poster got so much traction so quick. Makes me think that there were multiple mafia driving the early discussion and managed to get attention centered on a townie with weak/no thread presence. The alternative is that Malongo is mafia and his team can't do anything to stop the town, in which case this game is easy and I'm not worried anyway.

That's about all I got that I think matters right now.

If anybody is spewed town there it is you. He gives 0 reasons why Xatalos is town. While he uses the fact you are town to incriminate Calix.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2017 21:05 GMT
#2117
Hmm the Eden lynch is set in stone. TW/rayn/Damdred/Calix are lock town then. If 1 is mafia this is over. I can live with that.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2017 21:08 GMT
#2120
On March 22 2017 06:07 Tumblewood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 06:05 Koshi wrote:
Hmm the Eden lynch is set in stone. TW/rayn/Damdred/Calix are lock town then. If 1 is mafia this is over. I can live with that.

why Damdred? I agree on all other counts but what from Damdred makes you so confident?

call it a gut read I got after scumreading him at the start of the game.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2017 21:12 GMT
#2124
Like if Eden is town we are getting outplayed quite badly. Xatalos is going to be lock scum then. But the others are hiding. Darthfoley. AMG. Onegu. disformation.

Well if the other blue is in the last 4 it is fine I guess. 33% + 50% to win
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2017 21:16 GMT
#2129
I am currently busy with money stuff. Going to start playing on the stock market. And with playing I mean I am going to buy a shitton of 1 stock that should be a safe bet. (max -10% on short term and potential +20% on longer term) But most likely will just do nothing too crazy and will net me 2% each year except the fucking 0,3% I get due to banks are fucking criminals.

So if anybody has great advice I can use it.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2017 21:18 GMT
#2130
I'll explain myself better. I take a risk on Damdred and TW but I cba to fucking even doubts to reads anymore if Eden flips town. It is your own fucking fault they become untouchable.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2017 21:19 GMT
#2133
"doubt those reads"

Anyway I am busy. Cya after flip.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2017 21:19 GMT
#2135
On March 22 2017 06:19 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 06:18 Koshi wrote:
I'll explain myself better. I take a risk on Damdred and TW but I cba to fucking even doubts to reads anymore if Eden flips town. It is your own fucking fault they become untouchable.

no, yours.

Nope. Not mine.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2017 21:22 GMT
#2139
On March 22 2017 06:20 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 06:16 Koshi wrote:
I am currently busy with money stuff. Going to start playing on the stock market. And with playing I mean I am going to buy a shitton of 1 stock that should be a safe bet. (max -10% on short term and potential +20% on longer term) But most likely will just do nothing too crazy and will net me 2% each year except the fucking 0,3% I get due to banks are fucking criminals.

So if anybody has great advice I can use it.


There isn't any downside to some diversification though (except just a bit more effort spent / transaction fees). But risks reduce greatly. Dividends are also great consistent income source so I'd recommend companies that pay growing dividends.

True. But I am not taking risks for money. I am going to buy a stock of a company that can't go bankrupt. A very old company that is just going to exist for ages. And where the stock is a lot lower than on it's highest point.

Like... I don't think I can lose money if I have time. But I can win money depending on what the stock does.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2017 21:27 GMT
#2146
##unvote
##vote Eden1892

We pray to jeebus.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2017 22:26 GMT
#2216
Well we deserved this flip. It was a good day.

I am back to lynching Onegu/Xatalos/AGM/df atm.
Liked what I saw from Eden on disformation. He might be town.
We still can fear read Tumble/Damdred but I feel content now in a world they are town.
Eden flipped goon so VT setup is possible. But unless it is confirmed rayn is conf town. And who are we kidding rayn is town and/or clinically insane.
Calix conf town.

Anyway. We did well. I am proud.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 21 2017 22:39 GMT
#2225
For tomorrow.

Did Onegu check in so many times to change his vote?
Did AGM force the Eden is town idea more in the thread than Xatalos is mafia?
Did darthfoley come in at the perfect time to gain max cred on voting Eden?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 22 2017 11:39 GMT
#2300
goddamnit I lost my fucking post...
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 22 2017 11:43 GMT
#2305
It comes down to:

Onegu is cancer.

Darthfoley has a good D2 filter. He stopped dirt shoveling. Had maybe 2 posts in which he was too sure Eden was mafia.
On March 22 2017 05:26 darthfoley wrote:
Rayn still hasn't given me any reason to his apparent reason for town reading Eden even after Calix and I have asked directly for an answer.

Idk why you're being obstinate with people that actually think you're town


On March 22 2017 05:28 darthfoley wrote:
Like Eden is very likely mafia. He's done nothing since pressure was put on him. How the fuck could we let him live today

Also was maybe dirt shoveling in the first post.

AMG is not solving the game and is putting paranoia in the thread.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 22 2017 11:44 GMT
#2307
On March 22 2017 20:43 AMG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 20:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why not Xatalos?

I guess i'm starting to buy into the inept scum team theory.

What is your proof? Except meta from a game you once played. Cuz that is fucking shit.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 22 2017 11:46 GMT
#2310
On March 22 2017 20:46 Xatalos wrote:
Seems like disfo had about the same thoughts on AMG as I did.

I had the thought first though.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38797 Posts
March 22 2017 11:54 GMT
#2314
I think the cop always claims his check 1 sec before resolution. Then if he is alive claims his next check tomorrow. With some luck it is auto win
I had a good night of sleep.
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