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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 14:52 GMT
#1762
No that is literally impossible.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 15:16 GMT
#1788
On March 18 2017 07:15 Xatalos wrote:
Eden's case isn't actually horrible. It's true that Calix jumped to scumreading disfo a bit quickly/strongly and stuck with it until it no longer had steam. The reason for dropping it wasn't the best either... "at least he's doing something now" after listing various other reasons to scumread him, which weren't really addressed? Or were they somewhere?

I could be biased because Eden praised my townieness so greatly.

I'll be around closer to the deadline, but probably not very much for the next 15-20 hours or so.

Shows guilt

On March 19 2017 00:51 Xatalos wrote:
Foley seems OK'ish for now, I guess? He talks a lot in a focused manner (focused on doing useful things). Kind of jumps to quick snap judgments. His reads aren't too far from my own, just a couple of people in different places. Pretty... null / slight town lean? Not really the best D1 lynch IMO

Not sure if I like this read on Foley. Too generic. Should actually check if his reads really line up with those of darth.

On March 19 2017 00:55 Xatalos wrote:
Eden seemed kind of OK? At least his Calix case actually made me reconsider Calix - no matter if it's right or wrong, at least he seems to do things and not just lurk by.

So much bad in this sentence.
1) Soft defense on Eden for no reason.
2) And who says "I considered scumreading Calix due to this case, it doesn't matter if the case is wrong"? He doesn't say it like that. But he acknowledges the fact it could very well be wrong.
3) So twice he hides behind Eden case to scumread Calix.... Feels like what he did to me and rayn.

On March 19 2017 01:04 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2017 00:54 Calix wrote:
On March 19 2017 00:41 Xatalos wrote:
On March 18 2017 22:12 Damdred wrote:
Xata or anyone who on the mal wagon makes you super skeptical?


rayn isn't even on his wagon, but he's pushed Mal nonetheless, and with very weak reasons IMO (which is more typical of his scumplay). Still not sure about disfo, and not completely sure about Calix either. Mainly it's because there hasn't been any meaningful opposition, but just scattered votes all around. That rarely leads to a correct lunch.


Yeah, about that.

On March 18 2017 07:15 Xatalos wrote:
Eden's case isn't actually horrible. It's true that Calix jumped to scumreading disfo a bit quickly/strongly and stuck with it until it no longer had steam. The reason for dropping it wasn't the best either... "at least he's doing something now" after listing various other reasons to scumread him, which weren't really addressed? Or were they somewhere?

I could be biased because Eden praised my townieness so greatly.

I'll be around closer to the deadline, but probably not very much for the next 15-20 hours or so.


I'm confused as to why you think it's suspect for me to have pushed disformation 'a bit quickly/ strongly and stuck with it' when you agreed with all of my points and spent more time talking about it than I did? My point here being that since you acted in a similar way, it doesn't make sense for you to then agree with Eden when he calls out the same behaviour in me.

And I still don't get how Eden calling you top town influences your response to his case.

In general, I think Eden has not been talked about as much as I was expecting him to be.

@Damdred, can you expand on your Eden read?


Well, it's not like I think you're sure scum like he implied or anything. Just that his reasoning kind of made sense to me. You did jump to scumread him very quickly, and a bit too strongly considering the reasoning (tone) maybe... and kind of left the wagon to roll until it died? And abandoned the wagon just like that even though your other points weren't really addressed, just the confusion part that I was mostly suspicious of? Dunno. I can see the scum motivation in that. But then again, you've been pretty active and contributing very, so I don't have any motivation to pursue the matter.

When confronted by Calix he is very apologetic. While he should try to figure out if the case is either correct or false.Xatalos, why feul the Eden case and incriminate Calix but then don't do anything yourself when Calix confronts you?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 15:19 GMT
#1794
On March 22 2017 00:13 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2017 00:10 Calix wrote:
Another day, another shit-fight between rayn and Xatalos. Good to see I haven't missed anything

Why did you think i am mafia for his fucking shit-tier case?


Saying "you made a good point" =/= "I think rayn is mafia"

Please read and stop clogging up the fucking chat. I can't wait for you to get shanked N2 so I don't have to waste my time skimming over pages and pages and PAGES of pointless bickering -_-

Eeuhm. At least rayn is shitfighting against his scumread who is not being lynched at all by town. So it is completely warranted. FYI you and your buddy UN are way worse. You fill pages for nothing. Pls don't act so high and mighty
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 15:21 GMT
#1796
On March 22 2017 00:16 Damdred wrote:
Now adam opinion time, I know you added onto DF post about the Ritoky probabilities of why he was killed. Did anything in that post bother you exactly?

Yes. But I let the other guy reply.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 15:22 GMT
#1798
On March 22 2017 00:19 Koshi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 00:13 Calix wrote:
On March 22 2017 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2017 00:10 Calix wrote:
Another day, another shit-fight between rayn and Xatalos. Good to see I haven't missed anything

Why did you think i am mafia for his fucking shit-tier case?


Saying "you made a good point" =/= "I think rayn is mafia"

Please read and stop clogging up the fucking chat. I can't wait for you to get shanked N2 so I don't have to waste my time skimming over pages and pages and PAGES of pointless bickering -_-

Eeuhm. At least rayn is shitfighting against his scumread who is not being lynched at all by town. So it is completely warranted. FYI you and your buddy UN are way worse. You fill pages for nothing. Pls don't act so high and mighty

Calix. Are you 1.000% certain Xatalos is town?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 15:23 GMT
#1803
On March 22 2017 00:10 Calix wrote:
Another day, another shit-fight between rayn and Xatalos. Good to see I haven't missed anything

I don't understand this comment. You see 3 people (rayn, AGM, Koshi) starting to want to vote Xatalos. And you come in with that shit. Why?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 15:25 GMT
#1808
##unvote
##vote Xatalos


Bad boys 4 life
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 15:27 GMT
#1810
On March 22 2017 00:25 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 00:19 Koshi wrote:
On March 22 2017 00:13 Calix wrote:
On March 22 2017 00:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 22 2017 00:10 Calix wrote:
Another day, another shit-fight between rayn and Xatalos. Good to see I haven't missed anything

Why did you think i am mafia for his fucking shit-tier case?


Saying "you made a good point" =/= "I think rayn is mafia"

Please read and stop clogging up the fucking chat. I can't wait for you to get shanked N2 so I don't have to waste my time skimming over pages and pages and PAGES of pointless bickering -_-

Eeuhm. At least rayn is shitfighting against his scumread who is not being lynched at all by town. So it is completely warranted. FYI you and your buddy UN are way worse. You fill pages for nothing. Pls don't act so high and mighty


We're not buddies. He's a fucking creep, of course I don't like him.

I don't know whether Xatalos is 100% town because while there are good points against him, he's a lot different from when I was scum with him.

Are the points rayn makes not applicable to scum Xatalos? Why?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 15:29 GMT
#1813
On March 22 2017 00:22 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 00:21 Koshi wrote:
On March 22 2017 00:16 Damdred wrote:
Now adam opinion time, I know you added onto DF post about the Ritoky probabilities of why he was killed. Did anything in that post bother you exactly?

Yes. But I let the other guy reply.


You can answer to koshi, i kinda want to see if we are bothered by the same thing.

His most probably solutions is mafia mindset orientated. His less probably solution is occams razor.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 15:29 GMT
#1814
On March 22 2017 00:27 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 00:25 Koshi wrote:
##unvote
##vote Xatalos


Bad boys 4 life


Hmm... why?

Are you reading my posts?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 15:32 GMT
#1816
I just read 3 of your pages and showed mafia mindset in each one of them. And without commenting on them you ask me why? I even asked you a question in there.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 15:32 GMT
#1818
Are you tilting?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 15:55 GMT
#1836
No Calix can never be mafia rayn.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 15:58 GMT
#1841
On March 22 2017 00:56 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Both vote for me instead of Eden. I need a couple of hours to figure this shit out.

Why in the name of all that is holy would you risk your own life as JK? Or claim in the first place, if I might ask? I would never do either of those actions as a blue, and you're very willing to abandon your role usage for some thread clout.

Why would he do it as mafia?

Why ask this question?
And why are you ignoring my 3 posts I made on you?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 15:59 GMT
#1842
On March 22 2017 00:58 Calix wrote:
Koshi, question. What convinced you about Xatalos? You say you don't believe he is scum then you make that wall post. And that would be fine by itself. But then you post from Xat pg 11 (?) and say "either town or mafia riding my ass" which sounds like a town read (?) and then you vote. I don't understand the full thought process.

No. He is town for sharing my thought process or mafia trying to steer me in the wrong direction by parroting me.
Which he also did with Eden when he scumread you. Go read my third post.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 16:01 GMT
#1843
I don't understand. I gave 1 big post on why Xatalos is town. I made 3 posts why he is mafia. Why do you solely focus on the town post?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 16:01 GMT
#1844
Explain to me why my 3 posts were incorrect?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 16:03 GMT
#1846
On March 22 2017 01:02 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 00:58 Koshi wrote:
On March 22 2017 00:56 Xatalos wrote:
On March 22 2017 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Both vote for me instead of Eden. I need a couple of hours to figure this shit out.

Why in the name of all that is holy would you risk your own life as JK? Or claim in the first place, if I might ask? I would never do either of those actions as a blue, and you're very willing to abandon your role usage for some thread clout.

Why would he do it as mafia?

Why ask this question?
And why are you ignoring my 3 posts I made on you?


Sorry, I was keeping up with the thread on my phone in short bursts earlier. Didn't read your posts in detail. I'll get to them eventually. Could you maybe summarize your case? Because like a couple of pages ago I was your top town, now top scum. The change is really radical.

As scum his actions would make a lot of sense. Gain some credibility by fakeclaiming (especially in a vanilla setup), direct the lynch away from himself/Eden, maybe get 1-2 mislynches before getting caught. If it's not a vanilla setup, he could alternatively catch the blues before going down.

As town..... just why would he abandon his crucial role with ease and even want people to vote for him vs me? As scum he would certainly want that, since it'd be easier to win him vs me than Eden vs me.

You were never my top town. You were lock town. Now you are lock mafia.
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 16:05 GMT
#1848
On March 22 2017 01:02 Xatalos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 22 2017 00:58 Koshi wrote:
On March 22 2017 00:56 Xatalos wrote:
On March 22 2017 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Both vote for me instead of Eden. I need a couple of hours to figure this shit out.

Why in the name of all that is holy would you risk your own life as JK? Or claim in the first place, if I might ask? I would never do either of those actions as a blue, and you're very willing to abandon your role usage for some thread clout.

Why would he do it as mafia?

Why ask this question?
And why are you ignoring my 3 posts I made on you?


Sorry, I was keeping up with the thread on my phone in short bursts earlier. Didn't read your posts in detail. I'll get to them eventually. Could you maybe summarize your case? Because like a couple of pages ago I was your top town, now top scum. The change is really radical.

As scum his actions would make a lot of sense. Gain some credibility by fakeclaiming (especially in a vanilla setup), direct the lynch away from himself/Eden, maybe get 1-2 mislynches before getting caught. If it's not a vanilla setup, he could alternatively catch the blues before going down.

As town..... just why would he abandon his crucial role with ease and even want people to vote for him vs me? As scum he would certainly want that, since it'd be easier to win him vs me than Eden vs me.

I already explained to you that there is no way rayn fucking fakeclaims to save his partner Eden. This is not fucking lylo and he can ALWAYS be counter to be CONFIRMED mafia.

Why would he be THIS FUCKING DESPERATE AS MAFIA?
I had a good night of sleep.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
March 21 2017 16:07 GMT
#1852
Like.. If there is no other blue role in this game we get 2 free mafia with this claim. Why the fuck would he do that?????????
I had a good night of sleep.
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