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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 04 2017 01:45 GMT
#17
On February 04 2017 07:47 Holyflare wrote:
Didn't fecking invite me

sry
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 17 2017 04:52 GMT
#36
/obs
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raynpelikoneet
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February 17 2017 10:54 GMT
#44
I can replace VayneAuthority if this starts within this week.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 17 2017 13:48 GMT
#49
I think you're missing something Koshi.
+ Show Spoiler +
On March 19 2014 08:18 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 19 2014 08:11 Koshi wrote:
On March 19 2014 08:09 DarthPunk wrote:
On March 19 2014 08:07 Koshi wrote:
On March 19 2014 08:04 Koshi wrote:
On March 19 2014 08:01 Coagulation wrote:
rayn ur bad and should feel bad

rayn mostly pretty spot on early game. So, just play along = thx.

when I said play along I meant cooperate.

It feels like Rayn is the Sheriff and Koshi is the Deputy.

rayn always gets to be the greater role.
Koshi also pretty cool guy.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 17 2017 14:02 GMT
#51
Do you have some koshiiswillsmith.txt or how did you dig up those quotes so quick?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 17 2017 14:13 GMT
#54
So basically a koshiiswillsmith.txt
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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February 17 2017 14:27 GMT
#56
well in case iamp missed it /in
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 19 2017 00:43 GMT
#70
Regfan!!! ^^
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2017 06:38 GMT
#85
Good morning pplzz!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2017 10:08 GMT
#88
Koshi are you my ally this game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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February 20 2017 10:31 GMT
#90
Good.
I found two evul liar. Idk if they are scummers though.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2017 11:20 GMT
#92
But where is Palmar? It's not even weekend.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2017 13:00 GMT
#98
Btw fyi i am working a early morning shift this week so i cannot be online at the deadline. So i basically have to make my decisions at last three to four hrs before deadline.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2017 13:09 GMT
#102
And we dont have 25% chance of lynching red by random. And i like my educated guess more than 25% anyways.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2017 13:11 GMT
#103
Ebwop: oh well, yes YOU would. But it doesnt make any sense to propose a random lynch where you exclude yourself. :p
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2017 13:20 GMT
#105
Idk what "will we be friends" means here? Im not gonna be an ass, i like everyone in this game. I wouldnt have joined otherwise. If i think youre scum though i will call you scum, you can be sure of that. ^^

I dont think Malongo's comment is alignment indicative at all tbh.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2017 13:40 GMT
#107
Not really. Koshi might be town if he keeps up with the attitude he is having.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2017 14:20 GMT
#114
All the four of us can be town for now.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2017 14:25 GMT
#116
??
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2017 15:41 GMT
#152
I feel like sicklucker is tryharding wrong.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2017 16:28 GMT
#156
Now you can just get BM, sicklucker and maybe Vivax on board. Palmar probably will follow regardless of his affiliation because even if he is town he'll think it's funny. :D
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2017 16:47 GMT
#161
He thinks i should have shut down smth that i think is town-town most likely. But he doesnt know Koshi cannot be shut down, so i just didnt care that much.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 20 2017 17:07 GMT
#163
Because its not productive.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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February 21 2017 02:34 GMT
#213
Okay guys, especially Palmar, let's put some meaning behind the words:
On February 21 2017 06:34 Palmar wrote:
Vivax just made up an entire argument guys, gotta go lynch him.

Can you elaborate more on what he made up that makes you think he is mafia? Sure he completely left out the next post of yours when making a "case" on you. Sure he completely twisted Malongo's words into talking about policy when that's not what he was talking about. Sure Malongo never said rayn would be mafia for treating it as all town (Koshi+Damdred). How does that make him mafia? I mean - you have seen Vivax play before, right?

I believe Vivax believes in what he is saying instead of jsut making shit up (which is what he would be doing in case he was mafia). I believe saying this:
You're also starting to annoy me cause you don't get a point across at all, but pretend that you have one.

..if you are scum and know you're just making shit up doesn't make any single bit of sense since this game actually has smart people in it - people who will most likely tell you that you're making up an argument or something.

That being said i think Koshi and Malongo are town too. Damdred sounds town, same with FF to some extent. Palmar can also be town too because while i don't really know what he is trying to do with Vivax - or where to get, he is doing something he looks like he believes into.

Maybe i am wrong in something? Otherwise this is too easy. Well from the people above FF looks the least town just because i have probably never seen him post this much in a game before during D1 (lol).





But sicklucker is mafia. Apparently you didn't realize that when i first posted about him. The hard part is to explain why, because probably noone will understand that.

Let me tell you a story. When sicklucker joins a game he creates a magical sicklucker land on the side. When a game starts sicklucker starts posting from the sicklucker land where important things are very different than the things in the normal people land. sicklucker knows that but sicklucker doesn't care. Only time when sicklucker cares is when sicklucker is mafia -- that's when he tries to post from normal people land but reminds all the other people he is in fact in sicklucker land. I have seen this many times. I have seen it in Office mini mafia, i have seen it in Millioaire Cell mafia, i have seen it in Battle of the Drams. The only time i was wrong with this read early on was in Palmar's Storm game and i was really confused when rsoultin after dying told me that sicklucker is not in their team. He happend to be SK.

Basically what he does is he tries to look like he is not caring about the game while still "caring" (as he gets read as scum a lot of times as town for the following ->) when as town he just does his own shit early on and doesn't really care what other people think.

+ Show Spoiler +
As a note sicklucker; I am not trying to say you are bad, you just do your stuff your own way. I laughed when i read the last resistance game and everyone was scumreading you and when you got to a leader position my first thought was "well that's ironic because i think SL is the first one in this game to propose an all town team..."


So, i am pretty confident in this read. Maybe Damdred will get what i am trying to say here. Hopefully.

##vote sicklucker
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 02:38 GMT
#214
Actually i'll take back the townread on FF.
Idk if he can actually believe...
On February 21 2017 01:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
Why is it your job to shut down town town? Frown.

On February 21 2017 09:52 Fecalfeast wrote:
So palmar shits out the most obscene accusation and nobody is around to comment is it a bad time for europe?

...in these above posts. The first one i would be willing to let slide but i am not sure, when coupled with the second one, if he is even trying to process what he reads.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 03:27 GMT
#217
Ofc his fake quote is half-a-joke since Vivax hasn't made a post like that in this game and the quote is dated yesterday so it cant be from any other game either. That's what i meant, you just see a fake quote and make a generic question about it without trying to understand what Palmar could possibly mean by it. I am not saying it necessarily makes you mafia, but being "unsmart" in a sense that (as i said) looks to me like you're not really even trying to get into the meaning behind the words and just taking the easy route in throwing questions when you see something "worth questioning" (i put that into ""'s since when people actually try to think they should find possible answers into why other people make the posts they do). And that definitely comes more often from scum than it does from town - granted, as i said, i don't know for sure what that means regarding you.

I am saying sicklucker cares about the game in the wrong way for him to be town. For example these posts:
On February 21 2017 00:30 sicklucker wrote:
in before sicklucker is mafia for not wanted to join a circle jerk 1 min into a game

On February 21 2017 00:35 sicklucker wrote:
im a horrible conversation starter. thats all im sure of

... don't make any sense coming from him as town. The posts they refer to are fine, but there is some weird need for him to clarify why he is making psots that are perfectly fine for him to make. He never has that need as town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 03:29 GMT
#219
EBWOP:
And not doing that definitely comes more often from scum than it does from town
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 05:38 GMT
#224
On February 21 2017 12:35 sicklucker wrote:
also read liquidmania qualifier #1 just sayin

I did. Before i wrote my post in the first place.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 15:38 GMT
#238
On February 21 2017 12:34 sicklucker wrote:
im not saying your general read here is bad ryan. but your jumping the gun a little. I dont think im the kind of guy your going to have a very high percentage of reading in less then 24 hours. but at the same time you will have a very high accuracy rating in a few days. so maybe dont lynch me yet just saying

I literally just proved i am in my case on you.
Actually regarding Millionaire game i might wanna link the obs QT since i was obsing the game and not playing.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 15:52 GMT
#244
Probably not. From 1,75 hrs from now until 22-23 cest i gotta be somewhere and i gotta sleep at last 23:30 cest. Palmar can be mafia though, i have a super conflicting read on him atm. I'd rather just murder sicklucker who is scum.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 15:53 GMT
#246
On February 22 2017 00:51 Palmar wrote:
Vivax is mafia

On February 22 2017 00:51 Palmar wrote:
I am telling you boys, we have to get this one done. It's time to murder him.

Dude you gotta do more than this if you want to convince me...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 15:56 GMT
#249
You lied too when you said i am scum so it's 1-1 between you and him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 15:57 GMT
#250
Like why can't you just be clear and fucking show what you are talking about since noone has even any clue what you're talking about?!?!?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 16:10 GMT
#253
Well it sure seems like Malongo isn't getting anywhere with his (or anyone's) posting based on his vote.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 16:31 GMT
#262
It's nice you have a 100000% mafia and someone who is mafia too, and who you are voting for over the 100000% mafia guy, and then someone else is "probably town".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 16:32 GMT
#263
Did you forget about your buddy sicklucker?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 16:59 GMT
#281
Damdred why exactly do you townread Palmar? What is his case on Vivax?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 18:09 GMT
#304
Koshi its sl and damdred or palmar. Can be basic sl bus strategy.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 18:11 GMT
#305
Super easy to bus because damdred is not getting lynched and plammer looks terrible if vivax gets lynched. And if sl is lynched damdred looks better. Also see how damdred suddenly backed off from sl scumread.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 18:12 GMT
#306
...when plammer pushes vivax and it can gain steam.
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raynpelikoneet
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February 21 2017 18:38 GMT
#310
Vivax can you just vote for sicklucker please. I can be blamed if he is town which he is not.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 18:54 GMT
#311
FF what are my points on Damdred?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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February 21 2017 21:12 GMT
#323
He is though.
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raynpelikoneet
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February 21 2017 21:18 GMT
#324
Ima go to bed soon. Plz dont lynch vivax. He is not mafia. Plz not lynch BM. Thats retarded. Plz lynch sicklucker. He is mafia and plammer will need to step out of his gnot-so-god-mode or he is scum too.

Plz dont be retarded.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 21:51 GMT
#340
Oh boy. SL + damdred. Ezpz.
Koshi plz dont get sidetracked.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 21 2017 21:53 GMT
#341
On February 22 2017 06:43 Koshi wrote:
Anyway I am going to bed early as well. Tomorrow soccer. Great CL night today.

Wow we are lost.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 22 2017 09:25 GMT
#470
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raynpelikoneet
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February 23 2017 03:39 GMT
#496
##vote Palmar
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 06:29 GMT
#497
I am a bit annoyed i cant be around during the deadlines or even close. I am gonna reread tonight and tomorrow, but it seems like Palmar seriously thinks i am mafia and there is no way Palmar as town doesnt put his vote on me or try to lynch me on D1 if he really thinks i am mafia.

So he has to be mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 10:48 GMT
#499
If thats supposed to be a cop claim noone CC!!!
I will explain when i am home in 2hrs.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 10:50 GMT
#500
Palmar are you claiming to be a cop?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 14:23 GMT
#504
Here is the thing.

Here is how Palmar's read progresses:
Before D1 end:
On February 22 2017 01:28 Palmar wrote:
Now Koshi is a true patriot, and a townsman.

We have three in my team. Me, Koshi and Malongo. I also think Fecalfeast might be in my team but I am not sure.

We will come for these baddies.

rayn is 10000000% mafia.

Vivax is too

But don't mind me, I'm just being right over here in my corner.

On February 22 2017 01:32 Palmar wrote:
So game looks like this.

Town:

Palmar
Koshi
Malongo
Damdred


Maybe town
sicklucker
fecalfeast

illegal emigrant
BIll Murray

scum
rayn
vivax

On February 22 2017 01:34 Palmar wrote:
solved bitches

I don't mind killing rayn first, he's annoying when he's mafia.


The problem here is when Palmar is town and he thinks i am mafia he will 100% vote for me and try to convince everyone else to vote for me because he values lynching me when he thinks i am mafia. There is literally 0% chance Palmar actually thinks i am mafia and doesn't vote for me.


Here is what happens after the lynch:
On February 23 2017 00:26 Palmar wrote:
Like it completely baffles me, even if these folks didn't want to kill dishonest Vivax, why didn't they just do as you did and get rid of the emigrant?

At least that would have been arguably a successful day.

But no, instead you let scumrayn trick all your tiny brains into killing sicklucker, and now rayn has run off to his hole to hide.

Sad.

I have the best brain folks, trust it.

So either Palmar wanted his #2 lynch to be someone who he doesnt think is scum, or he doesn't actually think i (or Vivax) am mafia. Now how does this make sense? Go back to his filter on D1 and read the posts. Literally every single post where there is a mafia"read" says either "Vivax is mafia" or "rayn is mafia".

Now at this point there is maybe 0.1% chance Palmar is actually just trolling on his read on me, but that cannot be true since he is again calling me scum (when i have not made a single post that could affect the read after N1 start).

TLDR;
- Palmar's read on me doesn't go along with his actions in the thread
- Even if you don't know his play well enough, everything he says is like "i am writing this in a trolling manner so i can backpedal it later on if i need to, i was just trolling".
- He's been just as fucking unproductive than BM has been in this game while actually being here and "playing". Does ANY of you think that Palmar, as town, when a person he thinks in town is getting the most votes aka being lynched, plays like he did on EOD? Never ever, never!!!

Now i am gonna get my stuff ready for the trip and then i am gonna read again and find the second mafia dude. Of and for a possible cop, do not claim even if Palmar sticks with the claim, he is super fucking obvious scum and you don't have to. Even if he somehow manages to get me lynched instead of him do not claim. You'll get another check. Except if you have a red check you can claim because we 100% win the game right there.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 15:52 GMT
#512
On February 24 2017 00:33 Fecalfeast wrote:

Couple questions tho,
You say there's a 0.1% chance palmar is trolling. If the chance is that low why even mention it? Obviously if he's mafia he'll say he was trolling or at least act like it.

If town palmar would lynch you 100% if he thinks you're mafia, what value is there in a mafia palmar not trying to lynch you? Some kind of careless slipup/not thinking like a town?

Because of someone might say "he is trolling". If you continue reading after that you'll know why this isn't an option.

Probably the latter. I don't know for sure, i however do know how he works as town and what he'll do and what not. If you wanna see a similar case go read this (well you probably know this particular scenario since you hosted the game). Same thing there:
- Palmar as town hates D1 claimers (and fakeclaimers - and ALWAYS lynches them) and when he has no good case of his own sheeps a person who he thinks is strong and town.
- Palmar says he wants to sheep me
- Suddenly on D1 end Palmar doesn't want to sheep me anymore and switches his vote onto some completely random dude AND switches OFF from a guy who first claimed and then retreacted from the claim when the heat off off them.

Same thing. I have absolutely no idea why he did that, but it always makes him mafia when he plays against his "principles". Always.

On February 24 2017 00:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2017 00:30 Palmar wrote:
You'll get another check.

lel, fake news, only cop can be 1 shot.

gottem boys

This is true.

Yeah i forgot that. Doesn't change the fact that Palmar is mafia. Cop should still probably not claim (unless red on someone not Palmar) since D3 the checks give more confirmed townies let there be a CC or not. If they even are in the game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 15:55 GMT
#513
If Palmar flips town in this game you can by all means lynch me on D3.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 15:57 GMT
#516
On February 24 2017 00:55 Palmar wrote:
I charge you guilty with tryna lynch town patriot sicklucker, even when he spoke pretty towny and it's clear the case on him was bullshit?

And if you thought that was true you would have done something about it on D1.
And that's why you are mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 15:57 GMT
#519
On February 24 2017 00:56 Palmar wrote:
Cop should always claim day 2 assuming he checked n1, which he should have. There is no point in waiting and risking being shot. Regardless of the check being green or red there is no benefit in waiting.

booo...
If you have a green check you always claim at the last second of N2.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 15:59 GMT
#520
+ based on your posting on right now you were so sure i am mafia (after i made my case on SL) if you were a cop you 100% check Vivax over me, because you don't need to copcheck me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 16:00 GMT
#521
LIKE YOURE TRYING TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE "RAYN CLAIMED MAFIA TO ME" AND THEN YOU ARE SAYING RIGHT AFTER "WELL I CHECKED HIM JUST TO BE SURE".
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 16:02 GMT
#522
Okay Palamr we will 1v1 this.
If my case on SL was so bullshit, why didn't you point out how it was so bullshit?
1) Because you are mafia and didn't really care as long as a tonwie gets lynched
2) Other, why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 16:20 GMT
#523
On February 22 2017 07:22 Damdred wrote:
I would consider lunch in vivax but idk so kinda comes off a bit town in the exchange about it being me v him.

What did you mean by this Damdred?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 16:22 GMT
#524
Fecalfeast you know one of me/Palmar is scum by default.
Who do you think is the other scum and why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 16:23 GMT
#525
Nevermind you're not scum so there is that.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 16:29 GMT
#528
On February 24 2017 01:27 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2017 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 24 2017 00:56 Palmar wrote:
Cop should always claim day 2 assuming he checked n1, which he should have. There is no point in waiting and risking being shot. Regardless of the check being green or red there is no benefit in waiting.

booo...
If you have a green check you always claim at the last second of N2.

no lol

And this is because?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 16:33 GMT
#532
The only solutions i can find for Palmar basically playing like this is:

Scum QT:
1) "This is boring, two games in a row???? I am just gonna troll the shit out of the game Damdred."
2) (there is nothing in the scum qt except iamp telling scum is Palmar and BM and Palmar didn't bother)
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 16:34 GMT
#533
On February 24 2017 01:30 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2017 01:29 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 24 2017 01:27 Palmar wrote:
On February 24 2017 00:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 24 2017 00:56 Palmar wrote:
Cop should always claim day 2 assuming he checked n1, which he should have. There is no point in waiting and risking being shot. Regardless of the check being green or red there is no benefit in waiting.

booo...
If you have a green check you always claim at the last second of N2.

no lol

And this is because?

Going for the best scum strategy, obvs

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 16:54 GMT
#537
On February 24 2017 01:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
I don't know anything really.

Ofc you know because he is claiming to be a cop who has a red check on me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 17:58 GMT
#543
Mr. Plammer, how would you respond to the news on this important day?

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 18:10 GMT
#545
On February 24 2017 00:56 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2017 00:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 24 2017 00:33 Fecalfeast wrote:

Couple questions tho,
You say there's a 0.1% chance palmar is trolling. If the chance is that low why even mention it? Obviously if he's mafia he'll say he was trolling or at least act like it.

If town palmar would lynch you 100% if he thinks you're mafia, what value is there in a mafia palmar not trying to lynch you? Some kind of careless slipup/not thinking like a town?

Because of someone might say "he is trolling". If you continue reading after that you'll know why this isn't an option.

Probably the latter. I don't know for sure, i however do know how he works as town and what he'll do and what not. If you wanna see a similar case go read this (well you probably know this particular scenario since you hosted the game). Same thing there:
- Palmar as town hates D1 claimers (and fakeclaimers - and ALWAYS lynches them) and when he has no good case of his own sheeps a person who he thinks is strong and town.
- Palmar says he wants to sheep me
- Suddenly on D1 end Palmar doesn't want to sheep me anymore and switches his vote onto some completely random dude AND switches OFF from a guy who first claimed and then retreacted from the claim when the heat off off them.

Same thing. I have absolutely no idea why he did that, but it always makes him mafia when he plays against his "principles". Always.

On February 24 2017 00:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
On February 24 2017 00:30 Palmar wrote:
You'll get another check.

lel, fake news, only cop can be 1 shot.

gottem boys

This is true.

Yeah i forgot that. Doesn't change the fact that Palmar is mafia. Cop should still probably not claim (unless red on someone not Palmar) since D3 the checks give more confirmed townies let there be a CC or not. If they even are in the game.


lyinpelikoneet!

Cop should always claim day 2 assuming he checked n1, which he should have. There is no point in waiting and risking being shot. Regardless of the check being green or red there is no benefit in waiting.

That's why i claimed and now you die.

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 18:14 GMT
#549
For the record Vivax my case on Palmar has nothing to do with him being a cop or not since i could not prove it anyways so it's jsut dumb to make a case like "i know i am green so he is mafia lying". But he literally claimed a cop in the post i just quoted. Maybe you should start reading properly ok?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 18:31 GMT
#554
I literally voted for him before he said anything about anything on D2. Do you think i - as mafia - tend to vote for people because i somehow magically believe they are going to imply they are a cop? (I wish i would, i would be super good scumplayer if i did!)
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 18:33 GMT
#556
You still have no clue what he is doing don't you FF?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 18:36 GMT
#557
Anyways, all of you need to make your choice.
You can ask me anything if you want to, you will not get anything out of Palmar anyways.

So make your choice and try to find the other scum instead of participating on this nonsense Palmar is putting up with. At least it'll help me tell you who is scum - you'll know my alignment for sure by the EOD regardless of what happens anyways.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 18:39 GMT
#558
I wanna talk with Damdred because it's going to be either him on Bill Murray.
If we lynch Palmar today it won't matter since we can lynch them both but sadly i cannot trust on that based on what i have read (lol) this phase so far. Also i'd like to be right before D2 ends. So don't you fucking dare to ignore me Damdred if you are town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 19:51 GMT
#565
Holy gucking shit you two cant be serious!?!?!?!?
And at least one of you has yo be town....
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 21:45 GMT
#568
Nah. Vivax is scum too.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 23 2017 21:50 GMT
#569
On February 24 2017 04:11 Vivax wrote:
In a world where Palmar is town this is actually brilliant cause he's taking away claim space from scum doing it in the future. And if he's mafia it's also brilliant cause if it works, he can claim a role for himself.

im sorry if you are town but:
1) if palmar is town he gets lynched after rayn
2) if palmar is scum he gets lynched after rayn

In both cases that is the worst scenario. As town he just lost the game. Wow, such "brilliant"!!! As mafia, well he got 1-1. Not "a role for himself".... he will get lynched after me anyways.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 24 2017 08:23 GMT
#596
So here we are with Vivax who apparently thinks Palmar can be fakeclaiming as town to get a townie lynched. And thats in his opinion BRILLIANT.

Malongo seems to be thinking the same.

Then we have bill murray who says "if palmar is claiming for reals i think rayn is scum and palmar town, if palmar is fakeclaiming i think rayn is scum and palmar town. But both are null."

Then we have damdred who nowadays afks the shit out of every game.

I am sorry FF, i cant be bothered with a game where 5 out of 7 ppl are mafia. so do what the fuck ever you guys want to, idk why i even thought playing this game was a good idea...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2017 13:40 GMT
#793
Why couldnt you just explain your Vivax read Palmar? btw Malongo, cut the crap with me being disruptive. I was trying to get what i thought was true across and you are grouping me up with someone who was a fucking troll and should be mafia for being a fucking troll because he is better than that.

Btw you all lynched me for being redchecked by someone who you didnt even believe was a cop?!?!?!? How retarded is that?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2017 13:43 GMT
#794
I mean that literally has to be the reason why anyone voted for me because that was the only acceptable readon (redcheck). I was trying to play the game and when people had 0 logic then i stopped because i had better things to do.

Sorry sicklucker. I was bad and not around at the eod. Id prolly voted Palmar if i was.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2017 14:02 GMT
#795
On February 28 2017 19:30 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 19:25 Koshi wrote:
Yeah that meta post was so incredible shit that I just ignored it. I thought he was joking or something. Trying to gauge reactions.

Meh. Fefe I could have lynched if people helped me, Vivax lynch I was 100% against.
1) because I thought he was townie.
2) I thought you were full of shit.


2) is never true

But yes, we all played like retards. Maybe malongo was ok, but even then not great.

I didnt play like a retard, neither did koshi or aicklucker.
Dont blame other people for what you did. Both of koshi and sl were logically more sound than malongo was, as was i. Truth 100%.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2017 14:25 GMT
#796
I had fun reading your posts though so thanks for that
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
February 28 2017 15:25 GMT
#797
Iamperfection when are you hosting the next one?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 01 2017 16:50 GMT
#815
On March 01 2017 01:22 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 23:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On February 28 2017 19:30 Palmar wrote:
On February 28 2017 19:25 Koshi wrote:
Yeah that meta post was so incredible shit that I just ignored it. I thought he was joking or something. Trying to gauge reactions.

Meh. Fefe I could have lynched if people helped me, Vivax lynch I was 100% against.
1) because I thought he was townie.
2) I thought you were full of shit.


2) is never true

But yes, we all played like retards. Maybe malongo was ok, but even then not great.

I didnt play like a retard, neither did koshi or aicklucker.
Dont blame other people for what you did. Both of koshi and sl were logically more sound than malongo was, as was i. Truth 100%.

you tried to lynch townies on day 1 and 2, and promptly got yourself lynched in the process. Nothing about your logic or play was sound. sl got himself lynched, which makes everything about his logic pointless because the main priority of townies in mafia is don't get lynched.

That's not to say I was any better, I tried to lynch townies on days 2 and 3 with more information, and failed to push the only good case on mafia on day 1 because I'm bad.

That's kind of the point, we were all terrible.

Good job making people think you have a red check and when they get lynched based only on that making it look like it's the persons fault. I am sorry i should have totally figured out one of the best players on TL has to be town when they troll throughout the game claim a red check on me (regardless of if you actually did that or not it doesn't matter since what matters is how people absorb it - which in this case was to believe it).

But yeah you are right, i was bad on D1. I was probably bad on D2 too since i couldn't counter the case of "rayn is mafia because Palamr has a red check on him but we don't actually believe Palmar is necessarily the cop". I should probably take some logic classes for that. ^^
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 01 2017 16:58 GMT
#816
btw next time you see a votecount like this:
On February 25 2017 09:31 iamperfection wrote:
Vote Count - Day 2



Palmar(1): raynpelikoneet
raynpelikoneet(2): Palmar, Vivax,
Malongo(2): FecalFeast, Bill Murray
FecalFeast(1): Malongo

Not Voting: (1) Damdred,

It looks like Malongo will be Power Bombed at the moment.

if you see a mistake please notify us

Day 1 ends in at 01:30 GMT (+00:00).

..one hour before the day ends that means both of the leading wagons are town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-02 13:43:55
March 02 2017 13:42 GMT
#818
On March 02 2017 04:07 Malongo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 28 2017 22:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Why couldnt you just explain your Vivax read Palmar? btw Malongo, cut the crap with me being disruptive. I was trying to get what i thought was true across and you are grouping me up with someone who was a fucking troll and should be mafia for being a fucking troll because he is better than that.

Btw you all lynched me for being redchecked by someone who you didnt even believe was a cop?!?!?!? How retarded is that?

Dude you weren`t disruptive because you were trying to get what you wanted, I was trying to get what I wanted too. You were disruptive because you concentrated town discussion around you and your reads. I guess 25% is not that bad afterall.

I did not concentrate town discussion on me, that is something Palmar did. Concentrating town discussion around your reads is what this game is about no?

But yeah, disregard what i said earlier about the lynch. I somohow was under impression something that didnt happen happened. My last post stands though - when there are two "wagons" like that at the end of the day both of the wagons will always be town unless it would have been exactly me and you who are mafia. And even then we would be voting for each other since doing anything else is anti-mafia (and you cannot really be blamed for "i voted the other dude because i know i am town"). The only solution is that we are both town and either don't think the other one is mafia or that we don't care if we get lynched (which is not what i would ever do to my teammates as mafia - and i don't think you would either).

But yeah, whenever Palmar plays like this i will always think he is mafia because he should be better than that. Being wrong is one thing that happens to all of us, but refusing to explain his reads even when asked and acting trollingly all game long is, yes, disruptive and at best not helpful. If he would just explain his Vivax read properly when asked the game could have gone quite differently. Being right doesn't mean shit if you cannot convince the others. Ironically enough i based my reads after D1 onto Palmar being mafia so i went super wrong. I already thought Vivax is scum but then i couldn't believe he can be scum with Palmar who was more scummy to me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 02 2017 15:28 GMT
#821
On March 03 2017 00:18 Palmar wrote:
technically you were more scummy than me, as evidenced by which one of us got lynched.

Technically yes, you are right.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 02 2017 16:05 GMT
#822
I am going to play the next one if Regfan is playing.
Regfan i am also playing a game in MS atm. Let me know somewhere if there is a game there you're playing. I'd like to play a mafia game with you.
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