EPT[M][N] I'm a Cop You Idiot Mafia -- Town's Revenge
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I say Palmar´s plan first day is good enough, we can´t risk 50/50 on a DT and we don´t really have much of a choice outside Palmar/LS. I think LS is mafia cc poorly, his posting does´t really make sense if he was a green trying to get a hit. I mean the whole idea about first day claiming from palmar is getting a medic on him and making mafia gamble. Rels looks green, already pointed out by ritoky. If i was the DT id be checking Damred. Just to let you know, I am the medic and Palmar is getting protected tonight. I am claiming because its unlikely mafia will gamble a hit on me now that | ||
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On February 10 2017 15:44 ritoky wrote: On the contrary, if he is mafia he is effectively reducing the game to a 1v1 between him and the cop assuming no saves; and essentially laying down a gauntlet saying "I will outplay you, force town to make the wrong call and lose instantly". The play he made cuts both ways. It places himself in a fulcrum position, which I think tickles what ego Palmar has in just the right spot. The problem is Palmer being mafia makes LS the real DT or green wich makes 0 sense to me given his posting. | ||
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On February 10 2017 16:09 ritoky wrote: What specific posts from LS make you significantly convinced? On February 10 2017 07:23 LightningStrike wrote: With that being said idk if it makes palmar scum or trying to bait a shot on him instead the real cop (me). On February 10 2017 07:27 LightningStrike wrote: Well it night 0 I going to check him. | ||
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On February 11 2017 09:48 ritoky wrote: k, so it is damdred or malongo. malongo, you claiming doctor and never rescinding? Theres no reason to confirm/deny at this point. Still reading the thread, I really hate that somehow both DTs checked rels. | ||
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On February 11 2017 10:10 ritoky wrote: Why not? Palmar and LS are binary, rels is confirmed green, I am never mafia. If you have a way to confirm yourself as town through claim then damdred becomes confirmed mafia who we can immediately lynch. I am green. Claiming doctor first day is as retarded as it sounds. | ||
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On February 11 2017 11:50 LightningStrike wrote: Why you hate the fact that I checked Rels? I don´t mind you "checking" a player, but somehow I expected a check on Damred. | ||
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On February 11 2017 10:10 ritoky wrote: Why not? Palmar and LS are binary, rels is confirmed green, I am never mafia. If you have a way to confirm yourself as town through claim then damdred becomes confirmed mafia who we can immediately lynch. I don`t get it: you are never mafia? I am inclined to believe you are town but that doesn`t make you confirmed town. | ||
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On February 11 2017 12:30 LightningStrike wrote: Why were you expecting a check on Damdred? Just curious. I wont answer then. | ||
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##Vote Palmar | ||
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On February 13 2017 04:17 Damdred wrote: That's an interesting swing from malongo. Puts Palmar one from lynch then moved to no lynch. Idk the whole sequence has me uneasy, like hints that he knows Palmar is red with his little hint hint thing but then instantly backs off because he could be the real dt. I'm fact the read progression doesn't make any sense, he starts at Palmar has to be the cop over ls because of his bad posts. Gates both checked rels and then bites Palmar and almost iinstantly unvotes. I can only see mafia motivation in that. I know you want to lynch Palmar today rels but I think the correct play is to lynch malongo today. Then finish the game with Palmar v ls. ##vote malongo And as for your early question rels I think it's 99%. And if mal is scum I think their is no doubt it's palmar. So join me on this one. It makes a lot of sense if you put me on green, I was voting with rels but I realized that 2 greens voting a player meant the mafia had the chance to lynch Palmar if he was town. In the same topic if Palmar was actually red there was 0 chance of getting another vote (LS, rels and me) because rittoky and you were never voting Palmar if you were town sided. From my point of view 1 of LS vs Palmar is mafia 1 of Damred vs ritoky is the other. Funny that you agree that the best play is no lynch today yet you are asking people to vote me. | ||
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On February 13 2017 05:53 ritoky wrote: Rather than options, who do you believe is mafia? I´m inclined to believe you are town and Damdred mafia based on posting. I don´t have a real case against him anyways other than playing an uncomitted low profile game. You have been way more proactive but that could be a good mafia play too. I´d say 60% 40% towards Damdred mafia. The DT war is either a) Palmar doing a good town play and LS down a poor job at countering or B) Palmar doing an even better mafia play and LS countering poorly. I was inclined to side with Palmar from the start for the simple reason that most of the time I´d choose to lose a game against a player that made a good play rather than killing that same player and losing because of my own paranoid ways. My only real concern in DT wars was the DT check went on the same player and Palmar came back with a later check wich is really fishy for me. I expected a check on different players for more info. Last but not least is some sort of meta I can read were LS is unlikely to make this play as mafia and Palmar is likely to make his, but I´m unsure at this point. I´d say its a coinflip for me a the moment. | ||
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On February 14 2017 21:18 Rels wrote: Malongo I need you today I´m here buddy, I`ve read the thread a few times and thinking. | ||
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2 confirmed greens : malongo, rels (at this point if I was mafia then LS is too because of failcheck => Palmar DT then Damdred mafia >< there are no three mafia). 1 mafia In LS vs Palmar 1 mafia 1 doc in ritoky vs Damdred Possible pairings Palmar-Damdred: unlikely unless Palmar is sacking his team. It doesn´t make much sense considering that lynching Damdred today would put us 5 vs1, night 4vs1, lynch LS 3vs1, night 2 vs 1 and the last 2 players lynch Palmar anyways. LS-Damred: the popular choice since the start. Palmar-ritoky: the pro mafia that fake claimed DT and doc. LS-ritoky not possible because Palmar.DT makes Damdred mafia. | ||
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On February 14 2017 21:50 Rels wrote: yo. First, agree that if we lynch someone today, it's one of the cops ? Second, if you disagree with me on Palmar tell me I´d actually lynch LS. Funny thing is, in case we disagree we could have a no lynch scenario. Then we get 6vs2 when mafia actually has to hit one of us. | ||
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On February 14 2017 20:53 Rels wrote: Yeah I want that. From our (malongo and I) pov it's really stupid to Lynch outside the cops. Cause we just lose the game if you're scum, or back to the same situation if you're town. Rels, this I don´t get. If Palmar is mafia and we lynch Damdred (assuming him mafia) we still win no? | ||
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On February 14 2017 22:13 Malongo wrote: Rels, this I don´t get. If Palmar is mafia and we lynch Damdred (assuming him mafia) we still win no? Ignore me I fail at basic math. | ||
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On February 14 2017 21:50 Rels wrote: yo. First, agree that if we lynch someone today, it's one of the cops ? Second, if you disagree with me on Palmar tell me Ok I agree, on the first part, lets lynch a cop because it fits the game tittle. No on the second part for now. Lets lynch LS and his poor DT counter. How sure are you about Palmar? | ||
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##Vote Lightining Strike | ||
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On February 14 2017 22:34 Rels wrote: lol if another townie votes LS we lose instantly if he's town yeah but the same goes if Palmar is. We are not going too fast. | ||
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On February 14 2017 22:36 Rels wrote: But I need to work, will be AFK for a few hours. PLEASE NOBODY ELSE VOTES LS IF YOURE TOWN EVEN IF YOURE 100% SURE YOU RE RIGHT. Let's talk more when I'm available Sure, we have plenty of time (like a day or so). | ||
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On February 14 2017 23:33 Palmar wrote: I know it's kind of pointless for me to try to convince you, specifically, Rels, as all I really need to do is convince ritoky (with malongo being right). But it just annoys me so much that I can't make everyone be right. I want everyone to be right, I don't want a contested shit-game lynch. I want glorious stomping of the mafia team with every townie on the right side of history. That is wrong, because if you are town we still need his vote to lynch LS, sir you are digging you own hole. | ||
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For now. I want to have all the cards before I fail miserably. | ||
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Just in case. | ||
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On February 15 2017 00:05 Palmar wrote: it's basically irrelevant malongo, I told you what damdred would vote. Even if you think I might be mafia why would he not vote scum that just claimed a red check on him. Yeah i get that, but ritoky is the other piece i`d like to get first. | ||
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On February 15 2017 00:10 Palmar wrote: Sure, but even then he can't hammer anyone but me, and if he's going to do that there's nothing you or I can do to stop him, because the "kill palmar" faction has the 2 mafia + rels already. In all honesty if it comes to me choosing a no lynch or you I would switch on you. So it all comes down to rels. | ||
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On February 15 2017 01:50 Palmar wrote: When did you eliminate "Palmar/malongo" Rels? Isn't that team still a possibility in theory? If im mafia => ls is (because he checked me green) => you are DT =>damred is mafia => 3 mafias in the game => False. That should be pretty obvious mr cop. | ||
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On February 15 2017 02:07 Damdred wrote: Ritoky has to vote Palmar to not out himself as mafia at this point in the hopes of going 1 v 1 against me. So if you are siding with me mal hammer Palmar and we can finish this. Sorry but that would be super risky, we agreed with my archon mode rels to take it slow. | ||
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On February 15 2017 02:13 Damdred wrote: It isn't risky though thats the joy of IML, we get to see a flip when we want and it doesnt matter we can talk me vs ritoky during the night time. Just do it and lets get on with it. Not happening. I came to think that my vote could be useless if ritoky is the real medic and votes Palmar. LOL. | ||
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On February 15 2017 02:29 Malongo wrote: Not happening. I came to think that my vote could be useless if ritoky is the real medic and votes Palmar. LOL. The opposite is also true, if ritoky is mafia he can`t vote Palmar and win the game (because if ritoky is red then Palmar is too) So recap LS/Damdred Palmar/Damdred Palmar/ritoky are the only posible choices. If Palmar town => LS/Damdred If Palmar mafia=> Palmar/ritoky or Palmar/Damdred with Damdred wifoming the voting. | ||
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On February 15 2017 02:41 Rels wrote: Leaving work, Malongo see you in ~1 hour, I'll make posts explaining my thoughts. It`s ok, we still have plenty of time. | ||
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On February 15 2017 02:05 LightningStrike wrote: I pretty sure I know where ritoky will vote. This is interesting. ¿Can you please share your thoughts? | ||
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On February 15 2017 02:51 LightningStrike wrote: Ritoky will vote me if he's scum because leaving me alive as the cop in that situation will be suicide as I can get another check off. But he could potentially vote you as town too. Why are you so convinced that Damdred is town? | ||
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On February 15 2017 03:05 LightningStrike wrote: There is a dumb meta tell between me and Damdred that Rels can back me up. Damdred scumreads me when he's scum and me being town. But it holds like 0 value in face of a claim war right? Why did you chose me over ritoky or Damdred last night? | ||
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you may as well put some nice music, i`m voting Palmar in 10 minutes | ||
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##Vote: Palmar | ||
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On February 15 2017 05:55 Rels wrote: Well scum auto loses now if we play properly. They should concede soon. BUT just in case they don't let's not fuck this up. LIGHTNINGSTRIKE: you check Damdred. DAMDRED: you protect LightningStrike. RITOKY: you protect LightninStrike. Tomorrow we lynch Damdred if the check is red, or ritoky if the check is green. Ritoky was playing really smart towards that failclaim if he is mafia, i`d say damdred is mafia like 70% of the time here. | ||
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On February 15 2017 05:58 ritoky wrote: I am super confused, but happy. Why would damdred vote his partner, that's just effectively conceding....w/e there's no real discussion to be had anymore. I am protecting LS, he will green check me or red check you, either way the game is over. I guess because he can`t really vote LS when Palmar put him red? | ||
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On February 15 2017 06:11 Rels wrote: actually you probably protected Damdred I don`t get why I read Damdred as mafia from the start. | ||
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On February 15 2017 06:12 ritoky wrote: Well that's the quality of the posts lacking, not the effort level. Plus I have been on the other side trying to scream people out of their LS reads before. It is a very dumb experience. To me, people just seem to arbitrarily take some tiny thing and make up their mind without ever reconsidering when it comes to him (and rsoul to a degree); even if they get burned they still do it again the following game. Also, good job playing as medic and calling me out. | ||
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On February 15 2017 06:32 LightningStrike wrote: Ritoky or Damdred please concede because my night action won't change. Its not like you can change it anyways, you already checked the other 2 people alive  | ||
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