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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 10 2017 13:33 GMT
#158
On February 10 2017 20:34 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2017 20:19 Vivax wrote:
On February 10 2017 20:13 LightningStrike wrote:
On February 10 2017 15:17 Malongo wrote:
Well that escalated quickly.

I say Palmar´s plan first day is good enough, we can´t risk 50/50 on a DT and we don´t really have much of a choice outside Palmar/LS.

I think LS is mafia cc poorly, his posting does´t really make sense if he was a green trying to get a hit. I mean the whole idea about first day claiming from palmar is getting a medic on him and making mafia gamble.

Rels looks green, already pointed out by ritoky.

If i was the DT id be checking Damred.

Just to let you know, I am the medic and Palmar is getting protected tonight.
I am claiming because its unlikely mafia will gamble a hit on me now that


If I was scum why would I risk counter claiming Palmar at all considering it is terrible for scum to go for the 1 for 1 trade which favors town?


Palmar tutored mafia why they have to CC, that's the why. If mafia don't CC you have the doc on the cop instantly, 2 mafia claiming VT, and 3 actual VTs

I didn't read that post before I CC'd O_o


look at me! I'm adorable and cute and wrong! heh, such lightningstrike, classic! woopsiedaisy!
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 10 2017 15:47 GMT
#159
guys pls
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 10 2017 15:51 GMT
#160
On February 10 2017 08:18 ritoky wrote:
from my perspective the cop check should always be on vivax or malongo.

palmar and ls have made themselves binary.
rels, palmar, and damdred all have a good read on me and 1 of them is guaranteed not mafia.
i have a soul read on damdred that is probably at least still partially functional.
i am confident i can read rels quite well

so that leaves vivax and malongo.

This does feel like a fairly random post, although I could see mafia being too self-aware to literally suggest that they're not checked. The worst thing that can happen to mafia is that I check the non-cc partner tonight.

Like it's not a good post by any stretch of the imagination, but does mafia have the balls to straight up say "yo, don't check me palmar".

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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 10 2017 15:51 GMT
#161
what I'm trying to say is that if anything I think ritoky is more likely to be town based on that one post. But who knows
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 10 2017 15:59 GMT
#162
Nice, new page good time to post optimal play guides:

@Doc: Do not claim your role until lylo (don't claim in mylo). I'm going to assume Malongo is a troll, not a retard. If he is genuinely doc and mafia believes him, he basically reduced our chance of winning from super likely to very unlikely.

Also @Doc, tread carefully with wifom. TL players are retarded and like to go for homeruns. I know it's going to be tempting to not protect me (or LS, if you're bad at life) tonight, but you really, really should protect me. It's optimal play for mafia to shoot into the 4 people that might be doc (aka, not me or the 2 scummers), because they should be assuming that I'm protected, which is the reason I claimed in the first place.

Yes, if you play optimally, your protection is "wasted" because mafia will shoot into town, BUT, I've seen mafia go for broke often in this setup (basically gamble the doc will try a big play, and just straight up shoot the cop). I am going to super mad if I die tonight.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 10 2017 16:02 GMT
#163
Oh and one more thing, because it's optimal play for Doc to claim in lylo, let's say malongo tries to claim in lylo "I was actually doc, look I claimed on n0", then that claim will hold no additional value over someone who plays correctly until d2. Like if this is some ridiculous stunt by a mafia malongo, don't let it sway you. Fine if he is still unclaimed on d2 of course he is the doc, but mafia will usually, if not always, cc doc on day 2 if the doc is alive.

Essentially, treat his claim as if it never happened, from now and until the end of the game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 10 2017 16:02 GMT
#164
what I'm saying is that if someone ccs malongo on day 2 for doc, malongo should have no advantage.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 10 2017 16:03 GMT
#165
@LS can you be around at the deadline?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 11 2017 00:29 GMT
#198
Hi I checked Rels he came back green
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 11 2017 17:17 GMT
#213
not going to be at computer at all today

we no lynch today, it's the only option
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 12 2017 10:52 GMT
#220
complaining about me not posting on weekends as if that's a valid topic for discussion.

I'll catch up tomorrow, we sleep anyway.

And no, it's not optimal for me to not worry about the last mafia because it only takes one person to fuck it up. I'm going to make goddamn sure that we get this game right.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 12 2017 11:01 GMT
#221
##vote no-lynch
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 13 2017 14:44 GMT
#254
Gonna catch up on the game now.

I checked Rels because of this:

On February 10 2017 07:25 Rels wrote:
yeah a cc war already
if I had to decide with 0 info Palmar would be the one I lynch. More his type to do this kind of play than LS


n0 doesn't have a lot of information, so I decided to check a guy I both know is a good player and also gave himself an out to support LS, who is mafia (I know he's not confirmed scum to you all, but he is to me).

I actually was gonna check someone else but changed my mind because I felt like I was being paranoid. Not gonna reveal who until day 2. But you will understand my reasoning once I tell you.

With regards to the other mafia, I'm currently thinking it's Damdred. Like I have a reason to think everyone else might be town.

Rels is confirmed town (checked by me).
LS is confirmed mafia

Malongo could be smart mafia, but he basically has erred on my side throughout the game. It's a really weird play to do if he's mafia. I'll explain why:

If Malongo is mafia, and keeps siding with me, that means I have 2 people on my side in a 3v2 situation tomorrow. LS is obviously going to be on another side, so that means ritoky/rels/damdred (2/3 will be alive, assuming mafia doesn't shoot themselves and doesn't risk shooting me because we have a doctor alive).

So he's then either betting on 2 townies being wrong (siding with LS and lynching me) and winning the game outright, or he's betting on us lynching damdred, and then himself winning 2v1 lylo with 2/4 of me, ritoky, rels and damdred alive with him. And if they don't hit the doctor tonight, town auto wins.

So it makes no sense for mafia to side with town. This means that Malongo is likely to be town, because no mafia is going to take a 66% chance to just.... auto lose.

This leaves ritoky and damdred. I think it's quite clear atm that I would prefer lynching damdred of the two. ritoky's effort and activity level is way higher, and for now that's good enough for me.

I am 100% counting on doctor protection tonight. like please don't fuck this up mr. doctor. If I die, we can lose this game.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 13 2017 14:45 GMT
#255
Rels should do more with being confirmed. I'm blaming this on him if we lose.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 13 2017 14:45 GMT
#256
Like 100% blaming on him.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 13 2017 14:47 GMT
#257
Like if it isn't clear, I think the team is most likely:

LS + Damdred.

The far out options are LS + Malongo or LS + ritoky.

For LS + Malongo, I have to assume they can't do math and for LS + ritoky, the person who seems to be most interested in the game is mafia, which is always bad.

It's like a fairly straightforward read right now, but I'm gonna spend time reading ritoky and malongo again just to make sure. Also, unless we have a dumb shit for a doctor I'm going to have a red/green on one of rit/malongo/damdred tomorrow which will make things even easier.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 13 2017 14:48 GMT
#258
to be honest I don't know how big of a stretch assuming malongo and ls can't do math is
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 13 2017 14:57 GMT
#259
I'm just realizing this is an IML game.

Holy fucking shit lol. I was put at l-1 during the day by malongo...

And then Damdred made some complete bullshit post I think?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 13 2017 19:37 GMT
#260
So we're not talking?

no?

well...
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
February 13 2017 22:01 GMT
#269
Red on Damdred

##vote Damdred

Don't care which one we kill first.
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