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Well my three scenarios are:
- Sharkie + Grack were both spies. Seeing no out from either scumreading each other or Swika, they let the first mission pass, waiting for the second to blame the newcomer as they felt it would be easier than to attack a vastly townread swika, or being forced to scumread each other. Grack now put sharkie in along with superbia, who can still be either town or spy but for simplicity it's always easier to assume only one spy was on a failed team, so it's usually a win win or eat least no loss scenario for spies to have 2 on a team.
- Only Grack was spy and decided that he would pass the first, and fail the second. Before it failed he 180° his read on me and townread sharkie instead to try and gather support from all the members of the first three player team + RtaniSoul. Mind you, his read switch happened after I was in an argument with sharkie and rtaniSoul so the timing makes sense as he saw an opening on me here. In this case his current team is all town with exception of superbia who is his infiltrate.
- Only sharkie is spy. Least likely in my opinion cause I don't believe that Gracks read switch on me was genuine and somewhere I mentioned that if he's town it was maybe borderline gamethrowing, but for sure game changing.
Gracks scenario is that I made an all town team when I was townread already. Even IF I didn't include myself for cred, what would have stopped me from trying to put in a spy? The worst that could happen was that it got rejected and swika put me into the next team anyways, they were ready to do that. So I'm not the guy pushing tinfoil in this case.
My question to Grack and sharkie now is: If this team failed, who would they think was spy?
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On February 11 2017 23:24 Grackaroni wrote:
If this team fails then the spy is super or sharkie.
So you put in two people you aren't even sure about? K
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I was expecting something along the lines of "it has to be superbia", but now you don't even sound sure that sharkie is actually resistance, which is in contrast to basically all your beliefs.
Also noted that you lazily call all arguments against you omgus. There is no rule that says that the first to accuse is more right or more resistance.
Fact of the matter is, you are pushing the notion I nominated an all town team when I knew Swika would include me into the next team.
Fact of the matter also is that RtaniSoul was helping sharkie back when you changed your read, and it wasn't the entire thread attacking him, it was mostly just me.
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On February 12 2017 00:52 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2017 00:40 Vivax wrote:
I was expecting something along the lines of "it has to be superbia", but now you don't even sound sure that sharkie is actually resistance, which is in contrast to basically all your beliefs.
Also noted that you lazily call all arguments against you omgus. There is no rule that says that the first to accuse is more right or more resistance.
Fact of the matter is, you are pushing the notion I nominated an all town team when I knew Swika would include me into the next team.
Fact of the matter also is that RtaniSoul was helping sharkie back when you changed your read, and it wasn't the entire thread attacking him, it was mostly just me. My belief is that Sharkie is more likely town than you. I'll call it OMGUS if the argument is literally "he was town reading me and then he accused me." Yeah I am - minus the last part because you aren't a fucking mind reader and they never suggested a team until after the first mission passed and you gained cred from selecting the pasing mission. You & Silver were both very confident that the scum was Sharkie and you were both connecting him with Artanisoul. I don't see why I wouldn't just let you guys fuck each other up rather than coming up with a theory that pissed all 3 of you off. Your read is worse than OMGUS because you try to make it look like it was some great opportunity for me to turn on you at that moment when it was actually the opposite.
Who needs to read minds when I can just read posts? I asked active players who they thought should go on a team, oh look:
On February 02 2017 18:30 Silverika wrote:
You could put yourself, Rtani, and us or yourself Rtani, and Super. I think you said you had unresolved issues with those two? Or maybe yourself, Grack, and us.
~SilverWolf77
And you would not let us fuck up each other when you're spy with sharkie, simples. And if he isn't you're trying to portray the first team as all town and get on further missions. Also simple, and already mentioned. You can stop repeating questions now.
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So yes you're still stating I made an all town team as spy knowing I'd be on the next mission.
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You'd be more credible stating I was spy with sharkie, but this? Just lol.
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Final words for postgame cred: My resistance picks.
Swika + RtaniSoul + SL + TW
I'm fairly sure that this passes.
Then you add me and the game is wrapped up. All troublesome choices like Grack/sharkie/super/emc are excluded.
This is the only team I'll ever approve.
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So pick one between SL + TW + me or Grack + sharkie/emc + superbia for spies.
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On February 12 2017 04:23 RtaniSoul wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2017 04:13 Vivax wrote:
Final words for postgame cred: My resistance picks.
Swika + RtaniSoul + SL + TW
I'm fairly sure that this passes.
Then you add me and the game is wrapped up. All troublesome choices like Grack/sharkie/super/emc are excluded.
This is the only team I'll ever approve. Why are you so sure on SL/TW being town?
Cause I'm so sure that the spies are spies
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And yes that's my only reasoning you're getting today cause for the rest, you can go back and fucking read what I already posted.
I don't want to put more work into this game, I feel like the idiot who's trying hard while 50 % just slack off and still don't acknowledge what you're doing.
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The entire game boils down to a simple question: Did I as spy nominate an all town as a means of getting included in the next when Swika looked sure that I would be on it?
If the answer is yes, scumread me and also go buy a tinfoil hat.
If the answer is no, townread me and scumread Grack or sharkie or both. That's where I'm at.
Until you answer this, any other questions are a waste of time. I want to make this game more straightforward.
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On February 12 2017 05:37 RtaniSoul wrote:
Vivax, I may not be asking these questions just to get a read on you but also because I could use the help actually reading them.
I admit I have the luxury of being this confident cause I know I cannot be spy. But that's why I'm pointing you towards that question.
Just let Gracks version of events seep in and ask yourself if that is really, really what I would do, as it's the opposite of the path of least resistance, no pun intended.
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Once you have the confidence that spies on team 1 are always Grack and/or Sharkie, you literally must be confident that SL and TW are resistance as the spies are perfectly content keeping them in the leprosy camp forever.
And SL doesn't have particularly refined post but you can see that he cares about the game, and draws the right conclusions. The last team was probably all town.
Same for TW. TW also started playing a more...obfuscated?passive style of town compared to when he started out here.
Then you add PoE with a sharkie grack emc super spy combination, and the reasons above are enough for you to trust SL and TW to be resistance.
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On February 12 2017 06:06 sharkie wrote:
SL carees about the game? Since when? All he did since the fail was to put a team with him in it and asking us to accept it based on "come on resistance players, just go yolo mode"
Do you think a townie wouldn't say this in his position?
On February 10 2017 05:53 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On February 10 2017 02:26 Tumblewood wrote:sl has 0 analysis on players beyond x is bad, dumb, emotional, etc idk how anything about his tone + Show Spoiler +which is basically the same no matter what makes him townie with that what yes i do. you just said a read I gave already. "vivax has never mantained this activity as scum" I literraly said that a few pages ago. I have said plenty of good things this game, people have just choose not to listen from early pretexts probably much incuraged by fucking scum
On February 10 2017 05:54 sicklucker wrote:
which in turn makes me not try very hard because whats the point?
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no you can crawl right back into the hole you came from
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On February 12 2017 06:29 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2017 06:27 sharkie wrote:On February 12 2017 06:25 Superbia wrote:
In a game where t1 is all town it's vivax/ec/tw Great, now you agree with me as well (on the spies). Vivax will use this to further think his me/grack/super theory is sound haha... Vivax' theory falls apart on the votes alone.
Last team was all town on the votes alone.
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On February 12 2017 06:31 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2017 06:31 Vivax wrote:On February 12 2017 06:29 Superbia wrote:On February 12 2017 06:27 sharkie wrote:On February 12 2017 06:25 Superbia wrote:
In a game where t1 is all town it's vivax/ec/tw Great, now you agree with me as well (on the spies). Vivax will use this to further think his me/grack/super theory is sound haha... Vivax' theory falls apart on the votes alone. Last team was all town on the votes alone. Then the first team was as well z_Z.
That means votes alone are good for nothing.
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On February 12 2017 06:32 Superbia wrote:
Dude how the hell do you explain grack and sharkie in a team and no fail vote?
You don't even read the fucking game why should I reply to you. I even made a nice list post
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Confirmed not reading or you would know that I depicted multiple scenarios, whereas you say I only see a Grack + sharkie scenario.
I wonder how RtaniSoul reads a superbia that doesn't even attempt to read the game
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On February 12 2017 06:35 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2017 06:35 Vivax wrote:
Confirmed not reading or you would know that I depicted multiple scenarios, whereas you say I only see a Grack + sharkie scenario.
I wonder how RtaniSoul reads a superbia that doesn't even attempt to read the game Too late I was first. :D
Yea sure call my theory bad first then actually go read what the theories are. very credible
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