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RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 13 2017 18:32 GMT
#1888
Basically mafia wants to townread their buddies but knows they're spies so they'll oversell the town arguments on their buddies and undersell the town arguments for townies.

It's obviously never quite as simple as that but yeah.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 13 2017 18:40 GMT
#1891
On February 14 2017 03:36 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2017 03:34 sharkie wrote:
On February 14 2017 03:29 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 14 2017 03:25 sharkie wrote:
On February 14 2017 03:22 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 14 2017 03:18 sharkie wrote:
On February 14 2017 03:16 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 14 2017 03:15 Vivax wrote:
On February 14 2017 03:11 RtaniSoul wrote:
If the spy team is one of the plausible combinations you may send me an mvp award.


I think it's Grack/sharkie/Emc given how superbia acted lately, which I liked

That doesn't make sense. You think he randomly decided to take my/sharkie's side when he could've kept the thread split in two and have him be on the townread side? I doubt it.


He's been spouting such nonsense since 4 player team nomination began. First, the team was sharkie/rt, now it is grack/sharkie.
When will you realise that vivax has spouted a lot of nonsense this game and furthermore is the only player who has switched player allegiances so often.

This is really not a mafia trait.


what is mafia trait then?

Static reads, floaty uncommitting reads, read strength and arguments not matching up


First of all, none of these traits fit to grack/vivax/me.
His read strength and arguments definitely did not match up when he accused you


You will need to walk people through with quotations if you want to convince them when they have known how I play for years.

Btw RtaniSoul I'm not sure who you refer to when you say it makes no sense.

I don't see a grack/sharkie team ever.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 13 2017 18:48 GMT
#1894
It makes me sad that no one actually responded to my WoT
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 13 2017 18:51 GMT
#1898
On February 14 2017 03:49 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2017 03:48 RtaniSoul wrote:
It makes me sad that no one actually responded to my WoT


Putting me and ec and someone in team 1 & 2 in a team is a joke and you should feel bad for even suggesting it.

The vote thing has been accounted for. Without communication it is still possible it happened.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 13 2017 22:03 GMT
#1908
I would've felt a lot better if Vivax voted for and LS voted against :/
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 13 2017 22:06 GMT
#1912
They couldn't talk about conceding with each other you dolt. How would we even hear about it now?
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 13 2017 22:06 GMT
#1913
Unless you're trying to concede right now, in which case please go right ahead
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 13 2017 22:10 GMT
#1920
On February 14 2017 07:07 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2017 07:06 RtaniSoul wrote:
Unless you're trying to concede right now, in which case please go right ahead


You really think I would put forward and all town team as scum and then vote pass on it? :p

It's what I did last resistance game in hopes of getting mad cred for it when it didn't go through
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 14 2017 08:44 GMT
#1994
On February 14 2017 17:15 Superbia wrote:
Perhaps the tw/rtsoul/x world is real

How can you even be entertaining us being a spy at this point? Where is this coming from?
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 14 2017 09:42 GMT
#1999
On February 14 2017 18:06 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2017 17:44 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 14 2017 17:15 Superbia wrote:
Perhaps the tw/rtsoul/x world is real

How can you even be entertaining us being a spy at this point? Where is this coming from?


This mission probably failing.

Honestly I think Vivax is pretty town. And SL just seems lazy. I feel like the mafia in this team would be between you and silver.

So... you think Vivax and SL look townier than Silver or myself?
[image loading]
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 14 2017 09:52 GMT
#2001
On February 14 2017 18:49 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2017 18:42 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 14 2017 18:06 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2017 17:44 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 14 2017 17:15 Superbia wrote:
Perhaps the tw/rtsoul/x world is real

How can you even be entertaining us being a spy at this point? Where is this coming from?


This mission probably failing.

Honestly I think Vivax is pretty town. And SL just seems lazy. I feel like the mafia in this team would be between you and silver.

So... you think Vivax and SL look townier than Silver or myself?
[image loading]


You have had many reads this game that were absolutely opposite to mine:
- TW
- SL early
- Sharkie

Probably more. Coupled with the fact that you have been tunnelled on me being mafia from d1 with seemingly no real re-evaluation.

So because my reads differ, I must be mafia. Wow, good reasoning there buddy.

As for my read on you, it hasn't changed much because you haven't done much for large swathes of the game. The main reason you aren't a scumread at this point is that EC is practically confirmed mafia and the votes make it unlikely. There really isn't much that you've posted that I remember to get the impression that you're resistance.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 14 2017 09:57 GMT
#2003
On February 14 2017 18:55 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2017 18:52 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 14 2017 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2017 18:42 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 14 2017 18:06 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2017 17:44 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 14 2017 17:15 Superbia wrote:
Perhaps the tw/rtsoul/x world is real

How can you even be entertaining us being a spy at this point? Where is this coming from?


This mission probably failing.

Honestly I think Vivax is pretty town. And SL just seems lazy. I feel like the mafia in this team would be between you and silver.

So... you think Vivax and SL look townier than Silver or myself?
[image loading]


You have had many reads this game that were absolutely opposite to mine:
- TW
- SL early
- Sharkie

Probably more. Coupled with the fact that you have been tunnelled on me being mafia from d1 with seemingly no real re-evaluation.

So because my reads differ, I must be mafia. Wow, good reasoning there buddy.

As for my read on you, it hasn't changed much because you haven't done much for large swathes of the game. The main reason you aren't a scumread at this point is that EC is practically confirmed mafia and the votes make it unlikely. There really isn't much that you've posted that I remember to get the impression that you're resistance.


What a load of shit. I still get the mafia treatment from you. This is one of my main issues (in this game in general). I should be pretty town yet everyone still treats me as mafia.

My d1 was incredibly town and I likely pointed out 2/3 mafia. I was incredibly town when the team that was going to fail got voted through.

Your crocodile tears might be taken more seriously if you weren't living by your signature this game. I haven't seen you do anything you're not capable of doing as a spy.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 14 2017 10:10 GMT
#2008
On February 14 2017 19:00 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2017 18:57 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 14 2017 18:55 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2017 18:52 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 14 2017 18:49 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2017 18:42 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 14 2017 18:06 Superbia wrote:
On February 14 2017 17:44 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 14 2017 17:15 Superbia wrote:
Perhaps the tw/rtsoul/x world is real

How can you even be entertaining us being a spy at this point? Where is this coming from?


This mission probably failing.

Honestly I think Vivax is pretty town. And SL just seems lazy. I feel like the mafia in this team would be between you and silver.

So... you think Vivax and SL look townier than Silver or myself?
[image loading]


You have had many reads this game that were absolutely opposite to mine:
- TW
- SL early
- Sharkie

Probably more. Coupled with the fact that you have been tunnelled on me being mafia from d1 with seemingly no real re-evaluation.

So because my reads differ, I must be mafia. Wow, good reasoning there buddy.

As for my read on you, it hasn't changed much because you haven't done much for large swathes of the game. The main reason you aren't a scumread at this point is that EC is practically confirmed mafia and the votes make it unlikely. There really isn't much that you've posted that I remember to get the impression that you're resistance.


What a load of shit. I still get the mafia treatment from you. This is one of my main issues (in this game in general). I should be pretty town yet everyone still treats me as mafia.

My d1 was incredibly town and I likely pointed out 2/3 mafia. I was incredibly town when the team that was going to fail got voted through.

Your crocodile tears might be taken more seriously if you weren't living by your signature this game. I haven't seen you do anything you're not capable of doing as a spy.


You do realize my meta has changed mainly because of real life changes, right?

Look at the game as a whole instead of saying "you haven't done anything that can't be done as scum". Am I likely to be mafia? What team can I be in? And the only team I can be in is vivax/superbia/ec.

Then evaluate if that is the team this game and move on.

quite a lot of effort went into the initial analysis, and naturally we were hoping to get a good result with the current team; when we get the chance, of course that will happen. we owe that to everyone when considering our own team to put up, assuming that this game is as it seems and the mission will fail

what exactly do you not understand about our read on tumble/ls?
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 14 2017 10:11 GMT
#2011
On February 14 2017 19:04 Superbia wrote:
What did TW do that is outside of his mafia range that made you townread him d1-d4?

It was a toneread, and we didn't townread him entirely throughout d1-d4. We operate off tonereads early game.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 14 2017 10:12 GMT
#2012
On February 14 2017 19:11 Superbia wrote:
TW's slot was super mafia, and all LS has done is "I'm town and I voted pass".

That's like, your opinion, man.
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 14 2017 10:16 GMT
#2019
On February 14 2017 19:11 Superbia wrote:
TW's slot was super mafia, and all LS has done is "I'm town and I voted pass".


so correct me if i'm wrong; your saying that you don't understand our read is actually that you didn't agree with it?

we've already discussed tumble with you because we didn't agree with you, and i personally did not find your response to match how strong your read was

as for ls now, i don't know. tonally i find it kinda town but i'm reluctant to go with that gut feel when i know that i have a soft spot - maybe even a blind spot - for ls, and lex also thought that ls was pretty quick with his reads...i forget who mentioned that first; maybe it was you. i think it was

sorry, he got frustrated and went out walking, and i've been doing reading for class so if i'm not really plugged in to the conversation at present, that's why
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 14 2017 10:21 GMT
#2022
On February 14 2017 19:15 Superbia wrote:
Because people seem to be incredibly content to keep reading me mafia. Even after "thinking" I proposed AND voted on an all-town team, people still seemed to think I'm mafia.

Nothing wrong there.


i can understand the frustration. as either alignment really. lol >< my first resistance game (voice) i was in vivax's spot and new i was town, but everyone just assumed i was scum because the first mission passed without ever questioning it. admittedly that may be one of the reasons i really don't care for resistance. played this game cause of lex

but i digress...my issue with you (not 100% on what lex said, the week started and this was his show again lol ><) is not that i'm certain you're scum/spy/whatever in the slightest. it's that i can't get a resistance read off you. i don't trust you. i'm not sure what it would take me to get there, if you are resistance, but working out how we see the game may help. and again, i realize i'm a bit disconnected so please don't get annoyed if i ask you things you've already spoken about
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 14 2017 10:21 GMT
#2024
On February 14 2017 19:20 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2017 19:16 Superbia wrote:
Vivax seems to be the only one who's actually evaluating me as possible town, which is why I'm just willing to ride or die with him until the end of game.


Surprise surprise!!!
Vivax says Super = resistance -> conclusion: super thinks vivax = resistance
RTani says Super = not sure/leaning towards spy -> conclusion: super thinks rt = spy

Hahaha


if you're resistance this is not helping
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 14 2017 10:22 GMT
#2026
On February 14 2017 19:21 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2017 19:16 RtaniSoul wrote:
On February 14 2017 19:11 Superbia wrote:
TW's slot was super mafia, and all LS has done is "I'm town and I voted pass".


so correct me if i'm wrong; your saying that you don't understand our read is actually that you didn't agree with it?

we've already discussed tumble with you because we didn't agree with you, and i personally did not find your response to match how strong your read was

as for ls now, i don't know. tonally i find it kinda town but i'm reluctant to go with that gut feel when i know that i have a soft spot - maybe even a blind spot - for ls, and lex also thought that ls was pretty quick with his reads...i forget who mentioned that first; maybe it was you. i think it was

sorry, he got frustrated and went out walking, and i've been doing reading for class so if i'm not really plugged in to the conversation at present, that's why


Okay, so: I'm considering you guys because:

1. There's probably mafia on this team.
2. We've had a lot of disagreements read-wise.
3. You seem to be content in keeping me status-quo mafia throughout the game.


agreed on points 1 and 2

what makes you think point 3?
RtaniSoul
Profile Joined December 2015
552 Posts
February 14 2017 10:24 GMT
#2028
On February 14 2017 19:22 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2017 19:20 sharkie wrote:
On February 14 2017 19:16 Superbia wrote:
Vivax seems to be the only one who's actually evaluating me as possible town, which is why I'm just willing to ride or die with him until the end of game.


Surprise surprise!!!
Vivax says Super = resistance -> conclusion: super thinks vivax = resistance
RTani says Super = not sure/leaning towards spy -> conclusion: super thinks rt = spy

Hahaha


Changing reads is a town-trait.


that's not what he's saying anyway super. he's on his people read others as they read them kick, which is 1) not helpful to keep pointing out and 2) a blatant oversimplification of most of our reads which i personally do not appreciate
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