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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 14:23 GMT
#282
Vivax what's your read on HF atm?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 14:34 GMT
#286
On January 16 2017 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
LS what if damdred never posts again?

[image loading]

You gonna be useless till then?

I trying to ask Vivax his read on you while I wait for him.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 14:35 GMT
#288
On January 16 2017 23:23 LightningStrike wrote:
Vivax what's your read on HF atm?

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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 15:08 GMT
#297
On January 16 2017 23:39 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 23:34 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 23:30 Holyflare wrote:
LS what if damdred never posts again?

You gonna be useless till then?

I trying to ask Vivax his read on you while I wait for him.


Null, anything else? It's kind of not much to talk about so I was reluctant to answer.

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On January 16 2017 23:18 Rels wrote:
On January 16 2017 23:10 Vivax wrote:
Rels do you still think that Damdred could be mafia for his bad reasons on LS? If so, why?

not really. I want him to talk about it.


Why did you stop thinking that?

Okay why is it null? Just curious that's all.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 16:07 GMT
#317
On January 17 2017 00:57 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 23:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Maybe I just a sucker to Damdred since I haven't played with him for a while and I really missed playing with him.


I missed you to baby boy.

Hey what you think of Hapa vs HF from last night or at least clairify this post a little bit more:
On January 16 2017 09:47 Damdred wrote:
Eh if like to talk some actually hf.

I don't like hapa post for a couple reasons. One I don't want to talk about as you kinda covered it.

But he soft defended me and I hate soft defends. Like I think its a great mafia thing to do asbit leaves his options open which he does.

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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 16:09 GMT
#319
Also Idk why think Slam thinks Hapa is confirmed town already when he clearly isn't.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 16:15 GMT
#330
On January 17 2017 01:11 Damdred wrote:
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On January 17 2017 01:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Idk why think Slam thinks Hapa is confirmed town already when he clearly isn't.


LS what are your reads?

Town
Damdred: Meta and actions suggest more likely town than scum.
Vivax: He had good pressure on Hapa and then later pressuring Rels.
Null:
HF: Easily could do those stuff from both alignment.
Rels: Need more posts from him to get better read on him.
Slam: Need him to explain his Hapa read a bit more.
Onegu: Only made 2 posts need more posts from him period.
Hapa: Would be my scum in the fight between him and HF didn't like the way he had shut down HF's push on you. But is okay but still questionable.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 16:17 GMT
#332
Could move Hapa more of a scumread than null but only a slight lean though.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 17:01 GMT
#368
On January 17 2017 01:59 Holyflare wrote:
Uh who was saying ls doesn't post links to filters as mafia? Cos he does in one of his games

Damdred but he probably didn't see my last scum game lol.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 17:18 GMT
#390
Damdred:
On January 17 2017 01:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 00:57 Damdred wrote:
On January 16 2017 23:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Maybe I just a sucker to Damdred since I haven't played with him for a while and I really missed playing with him.


I missed you to baby boy.

Hey what you think of Hapa vs HF from last night or at least clairify this post a little bit more:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 09:47 Damdred wrote:
Eh if like to talk some actually hf.

I don't like hapa post for a couple reasons. One I don't want to talk about as you kinda covered it.

But he soft defended me and I hate soft defends. Like I think its a great mafia thing to do asbit leaves his options open which he does.


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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 17:27 GMT
#401
On January 17 2017 02:23 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 02:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Damdred:
On January 17 2017 01:07 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:57 Damdred wrote:
On January 16 2017 23:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Maybe I just a sucker to Damdred since I haven't played with him for a while and I really missed playing with him.


I missed you to baby boy.

Hey what you think of Hapa vs HF from last night or at least clairify this post a little bit more:
On January 16 2017 09:47 Damdred wrote:
Eh if like to talk some actually hf.

I don't like hapa post for a couple reasons. One I don't want to talk about as you kinda covered it.

But he soft defended me and I hate soft defends. Like I think its a great mafia thing to do asbit leaves his options open which he does.




I don't know yet, I think there is a good shot HF is town. I have hapa as null right now but his pressure on me and his last post about town reads and not having much to scum read has me thinking maybe i had it right the first time.

So far its a pretty hard game tbh. I still stand by my sudden change of opinon on hapas post though.

Fair enough.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 16 2017 17:31 GMT
#402
On January 17 2017 02:22 Alakaslam wrote:
Wait

See LS you pointed out in Damdred something I don't like.

Not scummy per se, mind you, I just don't like it:

Soft defending is scummy.

Oh really? I thought attacking everyone you see was scummy. Or attacking no one at all.

See scum have all the options in the world. Cause ultimately, the best play as scum is to be townie. So

Lol

Both of the bolded can be considered scummy depending on context and or what else they done with it.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 17 2017 00:48 GMT
#480
On January 17 2017 05:14 Holyflare wrote:
I'm really, really, really not a fan of LS since he's done shit all and then went on and on about how he NEEDED damdred's read on me/hapa to do anything and then just said fair enough and did absolutely nothing when damdred did post something relevant

then I hate that damdred/rels KEEP making these lazy meta ls reads that aren't even true and then when presented with new information that should update their reads they don't even bother looking into it or fact checking it and damdred is playing lazzyyyy

then I hate onegu's "catch up" but I don't know if that's extreme bias because I despise a million times over people that do page by page catch ups instead of just a summary but regardless his catch up that he's done so far is shit

then there's Hapa who is seemingly calling out Onegu/damdred and even voting Damdred for EXACTLY what he was criticised of doing (having no reads, not pushing much) but Hapa doesn't acknowledge that LS has said that Damdred has never hard town read LS as mafia damdred:

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On January 16 2017 23:04 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 23:01 Rels wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:55 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:50 Vivax wrote:
On January 16 2017 22:46 LightningStrike wrote:
Oh and also another game where you were his scummate Rels: Season of the Witch:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/494436-season-of-the-witch-2?user=Damdred
Granted he tried to fake a red check on me at EoD to lynch me but failed.


the plot thickens

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/488082-tl-mafia-lxxi-gaiden?user=Damdred Another gem filter that I had linked there about me vs Damdred(I wasn't scum).

this is actually great info. Did Damdred ever hard townread you when he was scum and you were town ?

Nope.


which I think I hate by far the most

I said fair enough because I already stated my position on Hapa:
On January 17 2017 01:15 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:11 Damdred wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Idk why think Slam thinks Hapa is confirmed town already when he clearly isn't.


LS what are your reads?

Town
Damdred: Meta and actions suggest more likely town than scum.
Vivax: He had good pressure on Hapa and then later pressuring Rels.
Null:
HF: Easily could do those stuff from both alignment.
Rels: Need more posts from him to get better read on him.
Slam: Need him to explain his Hapa read a bit more.
Onegu: Only made 2 posts need more posts from him period.
Hapa: Would be my scum in the fight between him and HF didn't like the way he had shut down HF's push on you. But is okay but still questionable

So he kinda agrees with me there so not much needed to discuss.
Also I don't think we should lynch BM because his lynch would give absolutely no information on anything at all regardless of his alignment. Rather lynch into the active slots more or less.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 17 2017 15:34 GMT
#632
Just woke up and caught up. Decent case on HF by both Hapa and Vivax about the Damdred/Me stuff regarding HF which is kind of odd tbh. I honestly can't read him to well I will admit that but I will vote him since other people are voting him.
##Vote: Holyflare
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 17 2017 15:36 GMT
#634
Also another problem I had with HF was he was a bit nitpicky with Damdred for a bit which I did say which might actually be more of a scum tell here.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 17 2017 15:37 GMT
#636
Also welcome BM just catch yourself up.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 17 2017 15:39 GMT
#637
Tbh why am I getting deja vu about BM being similar to btdt in my last game?
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 17 2017 15:44 GMT
#638
On January 18 2017 00:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Tbh why am I getting deja vu about BM being similar to btdt in my last game?

Mainly on the timing of entering the thread close to EoD >.<
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 17 2017 15:57 GMT
#647
On January 18 2017 00:52 Vivax wrote:
No lynching is catastrophical by the way. This game you will have to vote even if you don't believe that the possible wagon is the right one. Basically if you allow a no lynch to happen it's extremely anti town.

^
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
January 17 2017 16:40 GMT
#704
On January 18 2017 01:36 Bill Murray wrote:
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On January 17 2017 01:03 Holyflare wrote:
Ok we're definitely in a different game if you think hapa is conf town. Your read on me is also totally different to last game. Last game you gave me advice and picked an alignment whereas this game you're leaving me open to interpretation.

What's different about this game and that?



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On January 17 2017 01:03 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro

OK. Hapa being sheepable and conftown is not true. He spent the majority of his time talking about stuff that didn't advance the game further. His stuff where he calls people town or scum are obvious surface things that do'nt make people town or scum

say this game is an ocean wave

game meta /\ thread sentiment

rels and HF both are on the wrong side of the wave here - theyre on the game meta side - when thread sentiment towards Hapa being conftown was swelling in most readership/jury/VT/whatever

thats likely why they both garnered wagons

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On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

i wouldnt call you sheepable but i do read both you and vivax as town [as per your read]

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On January 17 2017 01:07 Hapahauli wrote:
Waitwaitwaitwait dont' leave now.

Why are you reading me as town? Because that's the opposite conclusion that everyone else has reached. I've had a pretty awkward start to Day 1 so far, and the "Hapa conf town" thing is as if you didn't read the thread and already know my alignment.

"the best offense is a good defense"

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On January 17 2017 01:12 Damdred wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:11 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:10 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

Because for once, you are someone who has used reason over emotion here.

What do you mean by "for once" ?

I mean for the first time I have observed on this site since my returning.


Hi slam, brown is the color of the earth and something we all must cherish and love.

Is the color green as important as brown to you? as it is the color of life and growth?

it's the color of money. cha-ching.

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On January 17 2017 01:15 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:11 Damdred wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Idk why think Slam thinks Hapa is confirmed town already when he clearly isn't.


LS what are your reads?

Town
Damdred: Meta and actions suggest more likely town than scum.
Vivax: He had good pressure on Hapa and then later pressuring Rels.
Null:
HF: Easily could do those stuff from both alignment.
Rels: Need more posts from him to get better read on him.
Slam: Need him to explain his Hapa read a bit more.
Onegu: Only made 2 posts need more posts from him period.
Hapa: Would be my scum in the fight between him and HF didn't like the way he had shut down HF's push on you. But is okay but still questionable.

are you trolling? i feel like youre pushing hapa just to be pushing hapa

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On January 17 2017 01:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Could move Hapa more of a scumread than null but only a slight lean though.

what? can you rephrase this?

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On January 17 2017 01:20 Rels wrote:
Slam, your reason to call Hapa conf town is horrible. It doesn't make sense. Even in the weird way you post. Actually, especially with the weird way you post. Someone using logic doesn't mean they're town. That's actually the opposite

can you ellaborate on this? thanks

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On January 17 2017 01:23 Rels wrote:
Vivax you are fucking dumb. Reread everything. Then if it's not clear I'll do a post by post defense where I'll explain exactly what's my LS read. But that is so useless that I don't want to waste time doing that. The basic is that I ddin't find LS scummy when I read that Damred post, then I found LS scummy when I finished reading the thread. The end.

hey now drop the ad hominem

Rephrase: Was my biggest potential scumread at that time even though i had him null you could move him to scum on my list at that time.
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