Well I suggest if you're town then bm is literally confirmed mafia and you should run with what you have.

Honestly I'm tired of fighting and I'm just going to afk my vote on you because I simply don't believe town onegu doesn't town read me after the lynches and how they went down and my super suboptimal play of keeping everyone that scum reads me alive forever to just scum read them back. A+ mafia strategy.

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 18:27 GMT

#1605

On January 22 2017 02:29 Onegu wrote:
Posting this right before deadline in case fucking scum are dumb and still believed me.

HF if you are the actual medic you are a fucking dumbass for claiming when you did and not right before deadline. You didnt think things through. If I am scum it doesnt matter you claim right before incase you arent shot. And if I am vt (which I am) I get killed and you are alive for mylo as I am guessing I get killed as can scum really chance that I am not saving you? Now you condemned yourself if you are the medic. No reason to not let it play out. I was going to unclaim right before deadline. You just let it play out. No reason to not let it play out. Fuck me HF, you gave us the loss not me. You can bitch that I fake claimed as town all you want but there was a 50% chance this was all VT and scum have to believe the claim, and there was no reason for you to cc when you did. It wasnt needed. And now you give us the loss 75% your fault 25% my fault. Really thought you were better than this...

I'm pretty sure this is you slipping I'm town in fact. You even put things like "if you are the medic" because you know I fake claim a lot. Then you realise that you fucked up and tried to backtrack to me being mafia.

You then say the loss is on me. All of this after saying you didn't have a read on me.

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 19:48 GMT

#1608

vivax was basically confirmed town why are you trying to say you'd shoot anyone but vivax???

please link me a game where someone claims a couple of hours before deadline at lylo when there is no need to and is ever shot because I have never in my life seen that happen, it's the most obvious fake claim in existence

the last time somebody fake claimed hours before deadline was sicklucker because he was mafia

let's look at it from this perspective, before you fake cc'd who did you think was mafia?

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 19:50 GMT

#1609

On January 23 2017 04:44 Onegu wrote:
@ BM really all you have to think about is this.

Does VT HF make a fake CC as town to get shot and not put himself in lylo?

Occams razor is he is scum. Made a CC to go head to head with me and thought he could get me lynched with claim vs claim.

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

"go head to head"
"onegu rescinds claim"

that's a free fucking win right there if I just keep claiming I'm the medic

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 19:51 GMT

#1610

bm town read me, you voted with me and have been sheeping me all game and town reading me, vivax town read me

what's my plan ccing there?

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 19:52 GMT

#1611

On January 23 2017 04:51 Holyflare wrote:
bm town read me, you voted with me and have been sheeping me all game and town reading me, vivax town read me

what's my plan ccing there?

not even true actually you've nothing read me and somehow you saying that you want to win the mvp and have no idea what alignment I am has turned into you throwing suspicions and scum reads in my direction non-stop.

so really, what you are doing is making a decision on my alignment and THEN attributing my posts as a narrative to fit that alignment instead of genuinely thinking things through and summing things up

that's what mafia does

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 19:54 GMT

#1612

and you're talking to bm all throughout like he's confirmed town without looking at his posts or doing any digging or reading, despite following me all game and appealing to his emotions to continue voting me

because you're mafia and have no actual points

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 19:55 GMT

#1613

I am actually going to fight this because now I feel like I NEED to stop onegu winning as mafia with this play.

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 19:57 GMT

#1614

Onegu, you need to prove to BM that I do this fake claim as mafia by outlining where in my history of mafia games that I have fake claimed or fake cc'd anything. I guarantee you will find 0 because I do not stick my neck out as mafia like that and make things hazy in the balance. I play a solid game and just win it through yelling.

Fake ccing and fake claiming is my staple town play and you know it onegu. Literally the last lylo we played together we had this EXACTTTTTTTT same conversation and it was so blatantly obviously attributed to my town play.

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 20:04 GMT

#1618

Why would you want the person that you have no idea what his alignment is and you keep regarding super highly as mafia be in lylo rather than yourself?

My reason is that I fucking hate this game and the perpetually afk people. What's yours?

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 20:07 GMT

#1620

On January 23 2017 05:03 Onegu wrote:

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you didnt fake claim or fake cc in GIF. What game are you talking about?

We had the entire conversation as how my mafia play is entirely conservative (with a lot of yelling, yes) but I don't ever stick my neck out, I don't make suboptimal plays like shooting LS at night in that game and I don't fake claim or fake cc ever. Mahrgell was pushing that me fake claiming blue night 1 was a mafia strategy and I point out that I've NEVER fake claimed as mafia and he got wrecked.

Now suddenly I make suboptimal plays as mafia by lynching LS instead of hapa, fake ccing, being tunneled as fuck but easily dropping stuff for no reasons.

yet you have no recollection of that game conversation?

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 20:10 GMT

#1621

On January 23 2017 05:06 Onegu wrote:
I will say something its really fucking weird that BM is just letting me and you go back and forth and not saying anything here...

Not weird enough for me to unvote you but weird.

and you keep mentioning little things about bm

are you keeping options open for if he returns with a vote on you?

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 20:13 GMT

#1622

there are about 20 things that I can list off in this game that I would absolutely never do as mafia

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 20:18 GMT

#1623

I don't believe a town onegu would not remember that conversation in gif and also attribute the myriad of things I've done this game as town hf

I can't believe it. We've played far too many games together and it's incredibly obvious.

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 22:59 GMT

#1649

I am also here. You should be able to get a clear picture from the last few pages that onegu is voting me out of necessity and not because he actually mafia reads me.

He's said he's keeping his vote on me for points but then during points he tries to appeal to you multiple times as if it's a scum read. It doesn't make sense.

There's a lot of things I've done this game that incredibly make me town and onegu knows this (i mentioned it in the last page) but he's insistent on not even going over it.

The rels kill n1 was increasingly likely a combination of medic dodge and because rels started to scum read onegu.

Onegu has fought for my life multiple times in this game but never actually town read me. His reason was simply that he's better at reading me later. Now that excuse has finally ended it has become no real read and he's doing it for points.

His fake claim leaving lots of time before deadline looks increasingly like a medic bait into him carrying as "confirmed" if nobody ccd. He was forced to drop it because i fake ccd but no doubt in my mind he continues it if i didn't.

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 23:03 GMT

#1653

And that, ladies and gentleman, is why onegu is mafia. His play is so subpar that he can't even make up reasons to mafia read me

Thank you for literally doing the work for me.

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 23:05 GMT

#1655

Bm is sitting here asking for reasons to vote one or the other. Your reason is you want points regardless as if to psyche him out that you'd only make this play as town because your content just simply doesn't exist.

You reference multiple times that you have a reason to scum read me. Link them and I'll demolish them. If they're purely about the cc it's a totally good play to stop you fake claiming your way to victory as mafia too.

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 23:06 GMT

#1658

On January 23 2017 05:07 Holyflare wrote:

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Holyflare

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January 22 2017 23:08 GMT

#1660

My post is quite literally damning. Your only reason to scum read me is something you know I'd never do as mafia because we had this conversation 1 mafia game ago!!!