• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:09
CEST 01:09
KST 08:09
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Siren's Call8[ASL22] Ro24 Preview: Summer's End9Serral wins HomeStory Cup 2915Serral wins Maestros of the Game 244ByuL, and the Limitations of Standard Play3
Community News
Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over2New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!36Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week6Weekly Cups (August 10-16): SHIN doubles2GSTL Returns in 2026!45
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (August 24-30): Patches' balance mod takes over SC4ALL II: SC2 Player Announcement 6/8 - Maru How would you feel about frequent/monthly balance patches for SC2? Weekly Cups (August 17-23): Zerg dominate the week Daily SC2 Player Grid - feedback wanted
Tourneys
PIG STY FESTIVAL 8.0! (13 - 23 August) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 GSTL Announcement IntoTheTV X SOOP SC2 League : Weekly & Monthly WORTEX 2026 - Hungarian SC2 Finals Budapest
Strategy
[G] Having the right mentality to improve
Custom Maps
Nexus Wars 2021 GUIDE [M] (2) Industrial Park
External Content
Mutation # 541 Binary Choice The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 540 Dodge This Mutation # 539 Thunder Dome
Brood War
General
ASL22 General Discussion XUN appreciation thread BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Pros React To: Calm's Big Brain Play Vs Mini New 3v3 BGH Ladder (and more) on ShieldBattery!
Tourneys
BSL LAN Party - Kraków 29-30 August - OPEN SIGNUPS [ASL22] Ro24 Group F Escore Tournament - Season 3 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Replay Review Process - What do you do? Game Theory for Starcraft Odyssey Mineral Stack Saturation Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Anyone here play Quakeworld back in the day? EVE Corporation
Dota 2
Browser Invoker Combo Trainer & Speedrun Simulator Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish TSM pausing esports and CLG Dead
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Power Rank TL Mafia Community Thread NeO.D_StephenKing vs This Guy From 1 Million Dance
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
MarineLorD Fan Club The Creator Fan Club The ShoWTimE Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Movie Discussion! Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023 NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Northern Ireland Global Starcraft
Blogs
Regacy Esports: The Bh…
regacyesports
Violent Games and Crime Rate…
TrAiDoS
LOCKPICKING NOOB
LUCKY_NOOB
Cathedral Of CS And NY pizza a…
FuDDx
Please support my new stand…
Peanutsc
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 6100 users

Liquidmania Qualifier #2 - Page 22

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 27 Next All
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 14:53 GMT
#1599
Also fuck you for not letting me leave.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 15:02 GMT
#1603
Well I suggest if you're town then bm is literally confirmed mafia and you should run with what you have.

Honestly I'm tired of fighting and I'm just going to afk my vote on you because I simply don't believe town onegu doesn't town read me after the lynches and how they went down and my super suboptimal play of keeping everyone that scum reads me alive forever to just scum read them back. A+ mafia strategy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 18:27 GMT
#1605
On January 22 2017 02:29 Onegu wrote:
Posting this right before deadline in case fucking scum are dumb and still believed me.

HF if you are the actual medic you are a fucking dumbass for claiming when you did and not right before deadline. You didnt think things through. If I am scum it doesnt matter you claim right before incase you arent shot. And if I am vt (which I am) I get killed and you are alive for mylo as I am guessing I get killed as can scum really chance that I am not saving you? Now you condemned yourself if you are the medic. No reason to not let it play out. I was going to unclaim right before deadline. You just let it play out. No reason to not let it play out. Fuck me HF, you gave us the loss not me. You can bitch that I fake claimed as town all you want but there was a 50% chance this was all VT and scum have to believe the claim, and there was no reason for you to cc when you did. It wasnt needed. And now you give us the loss 75% your fault 25% my fault. Really thought you were better than this...


I'm pretty sure this is you slipping I'm town in fact. You even put things like "if you are the medic" because you know I fake claim a lot. Then you realise that you fucked up and tried to backtrack to me being mafia.

You then say the loss is on me. All of this after saying you didn't have a read on me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:48 GMT
#1608
vivax was basically confirmed town why are you trying to say you'd shoot anyone but vivax???

please link me a game where someone claims a couple of hours before deadline at lylo when there is no need to and is ever shot because I have never in my life seen that happen, it's the most obvious fake claim in existence

the last time somebody fake claimed hours before deadline was sicklucker because he was mafia

let's look at it from this perspective, before you fake cc'd who did you think was mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:50 GMT
#1609
On January 23 2017 04:44 Onegu wrote:
@ BM really all you have to think about is this.

Does VT HF make a fake CC as town to get shot and not put himself in lylo?

Occams razor is he is scum. Made a CC to go head to head with me and thought he could get me lynched with claim vs claim.


???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

"go head to head"
"onegu rescinds claim"

that's a free fucking win right there if I just keep claiming I'm the medic
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:51 GMT
#1610
bm town read me, you voted with me and have been sheeping me all game and town reading me, vivax town read me

what's my plan ccing there?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:52 GMT
#1611
On January 23 2017 04:51 Holyflare wrote:
bm town read me, you voted with me and have been sheeping me all game and town reading me, vivax town read me

what's my plan ccing there?


not even true actually you've nothing read me and somehow you saying that you want to win the mvp and have no idea what alignment I am has turned into you throwing suspicions and scum reads in my direction non-stop.

so really, what you are doing is making a decision on my alignment and THEN attributing my posts as a narrative to fit that alignment instead of genuinely thinking things through and summing things up

that's what mafia does
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:54 GMT
#1612
and you're talking to bm all throughout like he's confirmed town without looking at his posts or doing any digging or reading, despite following me all game and appealing to his emotions to continue voting me

because you're mafia and have no actual points
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:55 GMT
#1613
I am actually going to fight this because now I feel like I NEED to stop onegu winning as mafia with this play.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:57 GMT
#1614
Onegu, you need to prove to BM that I do this fake claim as mafia by outlining where in my history of mafia games that I have fake claimed or fake cc'd anything. I guarantee you will find 0 because I do not stick my neck out as mafia like that and make things hazy in the balance. I play a solid game and just win it through yelling.

Fake ccing and fake claiming is my staple town play and you know it onegu. Literally the last lylo we played together we had this EXACTTTTTTTT same conversation and it was so blatantly obviously attributed to my town play.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 20:04 GMT
#1618
Why would you want the person that you have no idea what his alignment is and you keep regarding super highly as mafia be in lylo rather than yourself?

My reason is that I fucking hate this game and the perpetually afk people. What's yours?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 20:07 GMT
#1620
On January 23 2017 05:03 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2017 04:57 Holyflare wrote:
Onegu, you need to prove to BM that I do this fake claim as mafia by outlining where in my history of mafia games that I have fake claimed or fake cc'd anything. I guarantee you will find 0 because I do not stick my neck out as mafia like that and make things hazy in the balance. I play a solid game and just win it through yelling.

Fake ccing and fake claiming is my staple town play and you know it onegu. Literally the last lylo we played together we had this EXACTTTTTTTT same conversation and it was so blatantly obviously attributed to my town play.




you didnt fake claim or fake cc in GIF. What game are you talking about?


We had the entire conversation as how my mafia play is entirely conservative (with a lot of yelling, yes) but I don't ever stick my neck out, I don't make suboptimal plays like shooting LS at night in that game and I don't fake claim or fake cc ever. Mahrgell was pushing that me fake claiming blue night 1 was a mafia strategy and I point out that I've NEVER fake claimed as mafia and he got wrecked.

Now suddenly I make suboptimal plays as mafia by lynching LS instead of hapa, fake ccing, being tunneled as fuck but easily dropping stuff for no reasons.

yet you have no recollection of that game conversation?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 20:10 GMT
#1621
On January 23 2017 05:06 Onegu wrote:
I will say something its really fucking weird that BM is just letting me and you go back and forth and not saying anything here...

Not weird enough for me to unvote you but weird.


and you keep mentioning little things about bm

are you keeping options open for if he returns with a vote on you?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 20:13 GMT
#1622
there are about 20 things that I can list off in this game that I would absolutely never do as mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 20:18 GMT
#1623
I don't believe a town onegu would not remember that conversation in gif and also attribute the myriad of things I've done this game as town hf

I can't believe it. We've played far too many games together and it's incredibly obvious.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 22:59 GMT
#1649
I am also here. You should be able to get a clear picture from the last few pages that onegu is voting me out of necessity and not because he actually mafia reads me.

He's said he's keeping his vote on me for points but then during points he tries to appeal to you multiple times as if it's a scum read. It doesn't make sense.

There's a lot of things I've done this game that incredibly make me town and onegu knows this (i mentioned it in the last page) but he's insistent on not even going over it.

The rels kill n1 was increasingly likely a combination of medic dodge and because rels started to scum read onegu.

Onegu has fought for my life multiple times in this game but never actually town read me. His reason was simply that he's better at reading me later. Now that excuse has finally ended it has become no real read and he's doing it for points.

His fake claim leaving lots of time before deadline looks increasingly like a medic bait into him carrying as "confirmed" if nobody ccd. He was forced to drop it because i fake ccd but no doubt in my mind he continues it if i didn't.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 23:03 GMT
#1653
And that, ladies and gentleman, is why onegu is mafia. His play is so subpar that he can't even make up reasons to mafia read me

Thank you for literally doing the work for me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 23:05 GMT
#1655
Bm is sitting here asking for reasons to vote one or the other. Your reason is you want points regardless as if to psyche him out that you'd only make this play as town because your content just simply doesn't exist.

You reference multiple times that you have a reason to scum read me. Link them and I'll demolish them. If they're purely about the cc it's a totally good play to stop you fake claiming your way to victory as mafia too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 23:06 GMT
#1658
On January 23 2017 05:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2017 05:03 Onegu wrote:
On January 23 2017 04:57 Holyflare wrote:
Onegu, you need to prove to BM that I do this fake claim as mafia by outlining where in my history of mafia games that I have fake claimed or fake cc'd anything. I guarantee you will find 0 because I do not stick my neck out as mafia like that and make things hazy in the balance. I play a solid game and just win it through yelling.

Fake ccing and fake claiming is my staple town play and you know it onegu. Literally the last lylo we played together we had this EXACTTTTTTTT same conversation and it was so blatantly obviously attributed to my town play.




you didnt fake claim or fake cc in GIF. What game are you talking about?


We had the entire conversation as how my mafia play is entirely conservative (with a lot of yelling, yes) but I don't ever stick my neck out, I don't make suboptimal plays like shooting LS at night in that game and I don't fake claim or fake cc ever. Mahrgell was pushing that me fake claiming blue night 1 was a mafia strategy and I point out that I've NEVER fake claimed as mafia and he got wrecked.

Now suddenly I make suboptimal plays as mafia by lynching LS instead of hapa, fake ccing, being tunneled as fuck but easily dropping stuff for no reasons.

yet you have no recollection of that game conversation?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 23:08 GMT
#1660
My post is quite literally damning. Your only reason to scum read me is something you know I'd never do as mafia because we had this conversation 1 mafia game ago!!!
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 27 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 11h 52m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SpeCial 163
ProTech31
EnDerr 27
StarCraft: Brood War
Artosis 541
910 18
ajuk12(nOOB) 9
Dota 2
syndereN478
monkeys_forever178
NeuroSwarm139
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0175
Mew2King132
PPMD36
Other Games
Liquid`RaSZi1777
PiGStarcraft170
XaKoH 158
ROOTCatZ59
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV77
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta54
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota22169
Other Games
• imaqtpie1548
• Scarra1054
• Shiphtur194
Upcoming Events
GSL
11h 52m
OSC
13h 52m
PiGosaur Cup
1d
Kung Fu Cup
1d 11h
Replay Cast
2 days
The PondCast
2 days
IntoTheTV X SOOP
3 days
CranKy Ducklings
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
OSC
5 days
[ Show More ]
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
WardiTV Weekly
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 2026 LAN: Kraków
PiG Sty Festival 8.0
Light Tournament 2026

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 3
K-JUNGMAN
ASL Season 22
Super Anchor Qualifying S3
RSL Revival: Season 6
Big Dog Cup 2026 Div 1
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026
Esports World Cup 2026: LCQ
BLAST Bounty Summer 2026
BLAST Bounty Summer Qual
Stake Ranked Episode 3
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 AUTUMN (S22)
Escore Tournament S3: King of Kings
Acropolis #5
Acropolis #5 - TRS
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
Acropolis #5 - GSA
Acropolis #5 - GSB
HSC XXX
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
Calamity Invitational
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.