• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 21:15
CEST 03:15
KST 10:15
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt2: All Star10Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists16[ASL21] Ro16 Preview Pt1: Fresh Flow9[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash10[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0
Community News
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers13Maestros of the Game 2 announced62026 GSL Tour plans announced14Weekly Cups (April 6-12): herO doubles, "Villains" prevail1MaNa leaves Team Liquid24
StarCraft 2
General
Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - The Finalists Maestros of the Game 2 announced MaNa leaves Team Liquid 2026 GSL Tour plans announced Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool
Tourneys
2026 GSL Season 1 Qualifiers GSL CK: More events planned pending crowdfunding RSL Revival: Season 5 - Qualifiers and Main Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[D]RTS in all its shapes and glory <3 [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Frigid Storage
External Content
Mutation # 522 Flip My Base The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 521 Memorable Boss Mutation # 520 Moving Fees
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Any progamer "explanation" videos like this one? Data needed BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ ASL21 Strategy, Pimpest Plays Discussions
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro16 Group D [ASL21] Ro16 Group C [ASL21] Ro16 Group B [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Any training maps people recommend? Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Dawn of War IV Nintendo Switch Thread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books Movie Discussion!
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion McBoner: A hockey love story Cricket [SPORT]
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Sexual Health Of Gamers
TrAiDoS
lurker extra damage testi…
StaticNine
Broowar part 2
qwaykee
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1357 users

Liquidmania Qualifier #2 - Page 22

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 27 Next All
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 14:53 GMT
#1599
Also fuck you for not letting me leave.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 15:02 GMT
#1603
Well I suggest if you're town then bm is literally confirmed mafia and you should run with what you have.

Honestly I'm tired of fighting and I'm just going to afk my vote on you because I simply don't believe town onegu doesn't town read me after the lynches and how they went down and my super suboptimal play of keeping everyone that scum reads me alive forever to just scum read them back. A+ mafia strategy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 18:27 GMT
#1605
On January 22 2017 02:29 Onegu wrote:
Posting this right before deadline in case fucking scum are dumb and still believed me.

HF if you are the actual medic you are a fucking dumbass for claiming when you did and not right before deadline. You didnt think things through. If I am scum it doesnt matter you claim right before incase you arent shot. And if I am vt (which I am) I get killed and you are alive for mylo as I am guessing I get killed as can scum really chance that I am not saving you? Now you condemned yourself if you are the medic. No reason to not let it play out. I was going to unclaim right before deadline. You just let it play out. No reason to not let it play out. Fuck me HF, you gave us the loss not me. You can bitch that I fake claimed as town all you want but there was a 50% chance this was all VT and scum have to believe the claim, and there was no reason for you to cc when you did. It wasnt needed. And now you give us the loss 75% your fault 25% my fault. Really thought you were better than this...


I'm pretty sure this is you slipping I'm town in fact. You even put things like "if you are the medic" because you know I fake claim a lot. Then you realise that you fucked up and tried to backtrack to me being mafia.

You then say the loss is on me. All of this after saying you didn't have a read on me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:48 GMT
#1608
vivax was basically confirmed town why are you trying to say you'd shoot anyone but vivax???

please link me a game where someone claims a couple of hours before deadline at lylo when there is no need to and is ever shot because I have never in my life seen that happen, it's the most obvious fake claim in existence

the last time somebody fake claimed hours before deadline was sicklucker because he was mafia

let's look at it from this perspective, before you fake cc'd who did you think was mafia?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:50 GMT
#1609
On January 23 2017 04:44 Onegu wrote:
@ BM really all you have to think about is this.

Does VT HF make a fake CC as town to get shot and not put himself in lylo?

Occams razor is he is scum. Made a CC to go head to head with me and thought he could get me lynched with claim vs claim.


???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

"go head to head"
"onegu rescinds claim"

that's a free fucking win right there if I just keep claiming I'm the medic
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:51 GMT
#1610
bm town read me, you voted with me and have been sheeping me all game and town reading me, vivax town read me

what's my plan ccing there?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:52 GMT
#1611
On January 23 2017 04:51 Holyflare wrote:
bm town read me, you voted with me and have been sheeping me all game and town reading me, vivax town read me

what's my plan ccing there?


not even true actually you've nothing read me and somehow you saying that you want to win the mvp and have no idea what alignment I am has turned into you throwing suspicions and scum reads in my direction non-stop.

so really, what you are doing is making a decision on my alignment and THEN attributing my posts as a narrative to fit that alignment instead of genuinely thinking things through and summing things up

that's what mafia does
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:54 GMT
#1612
and you're talking to bm all throughout like he's confirmed town without looking at his posts or doing any digging or reading, despite following me all game and appealing to his emotions to continue voting me

because you're mafia and have no actual points
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:55 GMT
#1613
I am actually going to fight this because now I feel like I NEED to stop onegu winning as mafia with this play.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 19:57 GMT
#1614
Onegu, you need to prove to BM that I do this fake claim as mafia by outlining where in my history of mafia games that I have fake claimed or fake cc'd anything. I guarantee you will find 0 because I do not stick my neck out as mafia like that and make things hazy in the balance. I play a solid game and just win it through yelling.

Fake ccing and fake claiming is my staple town play and you know it onegu. Literally the last lylo we played together we had this EXACTTTTTTTT same conversation and it was so blatantly obviously attributed to my town play.

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 20:04 GMT
#1618
Why would you want the person that you have no idea what his alignment is and you keep regarding super highly as mafia be in lylo rather than yourself?

My reason is that I fucking hate this game and the perpetually afk people. What's yours?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 20:07 GMT
#1620
On January 23 2017 05:03 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2017 04:57 Holyflare wrote:
Onegu, you need to prove to BM that I do this fake claim as mafia by outlining where in my history of mafia games that I have fake claimed or fake cc'd anything. I guarantee you will find 0 because I do not stick my neck out as mafia like that and make things hazy in the balance. I play a solid game and just win it through yelling.

Fake ccing and fake claiming is my staple town play and you know it onegu. Literally the last lylo we played together we had this EXACTTTTTTTT same conversation and it was so blatantly obviously attributed to my town play.




you didnt fake claim or fake cc in GIF. What game are you talking about?


We had the entire conversation as how my mafia play is entirely conservative (with a lot of yelling, yes) but I don't ever stick my neck out, I don't make suboptimal plays like shooting LS at night in that game and I don't fake claim or fake cc ever. Mahrgell was pushing that me fake claiming blue night 1 was a mafia strategy and I point out that I've NEVER fake claimed as mafia and he got wrecked.

Now suddenly I make suboptimal plays as mafia by lynching LS instead of hapa, fake ccing, being tunneled as fuck but easily dropping stuff for no reasons.

yet you have no recollection of that game conversation?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 20:10 GMT
#1621
On January 23 2017 05:06 Onegu wrote:
I will say something its really fucking weird that BM is just letting me and you go back and forth and not saying anything here...

Not weird enough for me to unvote you but weird.


and you keep mentioning little things about bm

are you keeping options open for if he returns with a vote on you?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 20:13 GMT
#1622
there are about 20 things that I can list off in this game that I would absolutely never do as mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 20:18 GMT
#1623
I don't believe a town onegu would not remember that conversation in gif and also attribute the myriad of things I've done this game as town hf

I can't believe it. We've played far too many games together and it's incredibly obvious.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 22:59 GMT
#1649
I am also here. You should be able to get a clear picture from the last few pages that onegu is voting me out of necessity and not because he actually mafia reads me.

He's said he's keeping his vote on me for points but then during points he tries to appeal to you multiple times as if it's a scum read. It doesn't make sense.

There's a lot of things I've done this game that incredibly make me town and onegu knows this (i mentioned it in the last page) but he's insistent on not even going over it.

The rels kill n1 was increasingly likely a combination of medic dodge and because rels started to scum read onegu.

Onegu has fought for my life multiple times in this game but never actually town read me. His reason was simply that he's better at reading me later. Now that excuse has finally ended it has become no real read and he's doing it for points.

His fake claim leaving lots of time before deadline looks increasingly like a medic bait into him carrying as "confirmed" if nobody ccd. He was forced to drop it because i fake ccd but no doubt in my mind he continues it if i didn't.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 23:03 GMT
#1653
And that, ladies and gentleman, is why onegu is mafia. His play is so subpar that he can't even make up reasons to mafia read me

Thank you for literally doing the work for me.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 23:05 GMT
#1655
Bm is sitting here asking for reasons to vote one or the other. Your reason is you want points regardless as if to psyche him out that you'd only make this play as town because your content just simply doesn't exist.

You reference multiple times that you have a reason to scum read me. Link them and I'll demolish them. If they're purely about the cc it's a totally good play to stop you fake claiming your way to victory as mafia too.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 23:06 GMT
#1658
On January 23 2017 05:07 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2017 05:03 Onegu wrote:
On January 23 2017 04:57 Holyflare wrote:
Onegu, you need to prove to BM that I do this fake claim as mafia by outlining where in my history of mafia games that I have fake claimed or fake cc'd anything. I guarantee you will find 0 because I do not stick my neck out as mafia like that and make things hazy in the balance. I play a solid game and just win it through yelling.

Fake ccing and fake claiming is my staple town play and you know it onegu. Literally the last lylo we played together we had this EXACTTTTTTTT same conversation and it was so blatantly obviously attributed to my town play.




you didnt fake claim or fake cc in GIF. What game are you talking about?


We had the entire conversation as how my mafia play is entirely conservative (with a lot of yelling, yes) but I don't ever stick my neck out, I don't make suboptimal plays like shooting LS at night in that game and I don't fake claim or fake cc ever. Mahrgell was pushing that me fake claiming blue night 1 was a mafia strategy and I point out that I've NEVER fake claimed as mafia and he got wrecked.

Now suddenly I make suboptimal plays as mafia by lynching LS instead of hapa, fake ccing, being tunneled as fuck but easily dropping stuff for no reasons.

yet you have no recollection of that game conversation?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
January 22 2017 23:08 GMT
#1660
My post is quite literally damning. Your only reason to scum read me is something you know I'd never do as mafia because we had this conversation 1 mafia game ago!!!
Prev 1 20 21 22 23 24 27 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
PiGosaur Cup
00:00
#78
PiGStarcraft544
CranKy Ducklings10
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft544
ProTech123
MaxPax 83
ROOTCatZ 55
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 15286
GuemChi 4256
Artosis 732
NaDa 23
Dota 2
monkeys_forever605
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King33
Other Games
summit1g11657
tarik_tv5580
C9.Mang0609
hungrybox410
shahzam409
Trikslyr170
WinterStarcraft164
Maynarde125
ViBE74
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1866
BasetradeTV287
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 56
• CranKy Ducklings SOOP3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 11
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
RSL Revival
8h 45m
Replay Cast
22h 45m
The PondCast
1d 8h
KCM Race Survival
1d 8h
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
1d 9h
Gerald vs TBD
Clem vs TBD
ByuN vs TBD
Rogue vs MaxPax
ShoWTimE vs TBD
OSC
1d 13h
CranKy Ducklings
1d 22h
Escore
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
3 days
[ Show More ]
Universe Titan Cup
3 days
Rogue vs Percival
Ladder Legends
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
BSL
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Map Contest Tou…
4 days
Ladder Legends
4 days
BSL
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
Soma vs TBD
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
TBD vs YSC
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-04-20
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
ASL Season 21
CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
IPSL Spring 2026
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
WardiTV TLMC #16
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S2: W4
Acropolis #4
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Maestros of the Game 2
2026 GSL S2
RSL Revival: Season 5
2026 GSL S1
XSE Pro League 2026
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.