On January 21 2017 22:28 Holyflare wrote:
BM why are you telling people off for voting not slam when:

a) slam is already dead
b) you also didn't vote slam later?

You also said here:

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but here your mafia are damdred and onegu:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517873-liquidmania-qualifier-2?page=71#1414

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so why was that a problem and why didn't you try and consolidate with town?

bm plz respond

Holyflare

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January 21 2017 18:54 GMT

#1535

because then they have to go against vivax the guy with the dumb tell and me who would wreck them if it was bm

or

because you're mafia?

many choices

Holyflare

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January 21 2017 23:43 GMT

#1536

onegu don't afk your vote and fuck off get back here and talk

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 00:55 GMT

#1543

LOTS OF people have thought u were scum and I white knighted u all game now ur gonna turn around and try to act like I didn't suspect alakaslam?

but you didn't end up voting him?

nor did you consolidate on a wagon in a majority game

speaking of white knighting me, why exactly did you do that? If your answer is you town read me for my play then why exactly has that so suddenly changed because I've asked you one question about your vote?

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 00:55 GMT

#1544

I have seen onegu do things that I've thought hey that's exactly what I thought

please link me those specific instances because I'm very curious

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 01:46 GMT

#1545

here's where I'm currently at, I've liked what bm has been saying all game and we've been kind of buddy buddy and he's been a voice of reason, the things I don't like is his refusal to talk to me/go through hapa yesterday and his lack of consolidation and his calling out people for not voting slam while voting off slam and even calling out onegu for voting for bm's scum read...?

please explain above bm it's important

thing with onegu is he's been voting with me which is good and always admirable but he's also hard defended me a lot day 1/2 while not actually town reading me which is insanely questionable... then there's the medic claim a couple of hours before deadline which he expected to get shot for???? like wtf who would do that? and now he's suddenly snap voting me instead of actually looking into what i've been doing, I feel like it's a bit of a low tier play especially when his whole stuff is he'd play harder as mafia with hapa in the game i've definitely heard that somewhere but I can't remember where

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 01:46 GMT

#1546

i need to clear a few things up first so bm please answer that question I linked instead of just voting me

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 09:57 GMT

#1559

On January 22 2017 13:29 Bill Murray wrote:
ugh u have some good points as to why onegu is mafia
the thing is for me its not time to answer questions
its time to talk about X is my read, no real need to say why, unless youre the one being read as scum
for me, hes claiming a role, and youre not answering my asking you for your roleclaim
you say im not answering you, well it's a 2 way street
and 1 of us looks to be about to be lynched ... not me

Vt obviously? I just said I was fake claiming to onegu.

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 09:59 GMT

#1560

On January 22 2017 13:30 Bill Murray wrote:
basically whoever is town needs me to vote with them
onegu is voting you
im gonna vote him because i can see him being a doctor/medic

You realise he said he was fake claiming and claimed vt at the start of the game right lol? Are you trying to dumb tell yourself as confirmed? :D

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 10:10 GMT

#1563

Ok here's why I'm town:

1. I did actual scum hunting the entire game looking for inconsistencies and evaluated them at each point.

2. I was super into lynching damdred for his mistake but was extremely quick to back off it when I saw that it could have been just a mistake.

3. I went after hapa, one of the best town players on this site, day 1 and when it came to lynch time I commandeered my own lynch to lynch something that made perfect sense to me (ls being mafia) instead of just lynching the good player who was mafia reading me.

4. I spent the entirety of the night trying to figure out the game and have a conversation with vivax and hapa while pointing out things I didn't like from everyone.

5. The thread was dead and I've spent all game trying to resurrect it and get you guys active and talk insted of making it stale.

6. I went after hapa again day 2 instead of easy lynches like damdred, onegu and slam (well yeh he was mafia but whatever).

7. I put in more activity at n1 than the last 3 of my scum games combined.

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 10:12 GMT

#1564

Things that don't make sense for me as mafia:

1. Shooting rels over hapa/vivax both of who were sfum reading me.

2. Switching off the better town player in the game because I wanted to lynch ls on inconsistencies.

3. Being this active even though my partner would have to have been slam and inactive?

4. Backing down on things and thinking it through and pushing logical things instead of hounding on crap points.

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 10:14 GMT

#1565

On January 22 2017 19:05 Onegu wrote:

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I claim VT at the start of every game that doesnt mean shit...

Are you claiming a role? If you're not then that doesn't mean anything to bm. Does he know you claim vt at the start of the game? Is he reading to know you haven't claimed? Many questions.

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 10:17 GMT

#1566

BM, here's the problem I have with you. It looks like you've been with me at every point, said what I've said and then when it comes down to voting mafia (slam) you've made a post about how you won't explain your reasoning for scum reading onegu and damdred. Can you explain that now?

Then you come in at lylo and say instead of agreeing with me you'll be voting me. That's super opportune. Is your sole reason to go against yourself to have an excuse to vote me?

Holyflare

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January 22 2017 10:23 GMT

#1567

I fucking hate lylo jesus christ.