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Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 00:43 GMT
#161
Eh I'm partial to people defending me tbh. I think it's it's non point though both ways as I have no reason to lie about mistaking something.

Maybe hapa could be scum but I sont think it makes him scum here.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 00:47 GMT
#163
Eh if like to talk some actually hf.

I don't like hapa post for a couple reasons. One I don't want to talk about as you kinda covered it.

But he soft defended me and I hate soft defends. Like I think its a great mafia thing to do asbit leaves his options open which he does.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 01:14 GMT
#166
Ok fine with family time so I can make an actual good response.

Vivax was pretty t owny from his first few posts (to this point). That was why the fight originally felt a bit strange and off to me, it seemed like hapa was going after vivax for no real reason except to have things to do

I didn't question the unvotw because I felt like vivax was only getting more towny aas it went. (Vivax only real meh moment was his read on you). So it felt like at the time hapa just realized vivax was making sense to me.

I think outside that hapa should tell us how he reads vivax now. And how he actually reads the interchange between hf and myself.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 15:57 GMT
#306
On January 16 2017 23:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Maybe I just a sucker to Damdred since I haven't played with him for a while and I really missed playing with him.


I missed you to baby boy.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 16:07 GMT
#316
On January 17 2017 01:02 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 05:39 Damdred wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:16 Damdred wrote:
Here is the thing hapa I already have a pretty solid read on me currently. And that he is probably town at this point moving forward.

How did I get here? Why thank you for asking!

You see it starts with me having bad reasons that are correct. LS makes a meta point about my play and how I react to him, ( ie of I legit push him as scum and he flips town im scum as I read him like 100%). Town point.

States things that are clear as day at points even jokes. Town point (really lacks much of this as scum).

And seems to be able to give ok if not lower thought process on current events. So he's just town.

And that went on longer than I wanted


Okay.

Is this a case you would make on other townies, or is there something meta-specific here about LS? How confident is this read, scale of 1 to 10?



It's something meta specific to ls. He's incredibly lazy, isn't really confrontational and lays super low as scum.

He can get past these of his partner is someone he lives and pushed his buttons and rides him hard.

I would give it an 7-8 atm. Probably halfway through the day I can lock in depending. But some nice meta things on ls.


Damdred, update me on this. Right now, I'm seeing the bolded from LS.


I actually see differently after I looked at his filter and read the thread. Yeah hes not super in tune yet with his reads being present but hes going out of his way to find examples of previous games where certain situations have occured.

Mainly dealing with me, but I think its a good sign that he is doing things like that. I think it shows the opposite of being lazy, not many people would bother to comb throughg ames to find examples of what hes talking about.

Wouldn't lynch today at all, but i think hes pretty towny currently.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 16:11 GMT
#322
On January 17 2017 01:09 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Idk why think Slam thinks Hapa is confirmed town already when he clearly isn't.


LS what are your reads?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 16:12 GMT
#326
On January 17 2017 01:11 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:10 Rels wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:07 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:03 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 16 2017 21:39 Rels wrote:
Slam any feelings about the game ?

Ya!

HF is looking like a badass by running around discrediting people till he lynches them, and if they was town it's their fault for being bad, if scum it is because he is badass

Hapa running around being high tier, and generally sheepable and conftown IMSO.

Damdred and LS saying stuff that I think people putting too much stock in, u coming in here and being generally wise but also making too much of HF and Hapa, with regard to H8 HF just because he sez stuff that is aggro


How am I sheepable when the only public read I've stuck with is a town read on Vivax?

Because for once, you are someone who has used reason over emotion here.

What do you mean by "for once" ?

I mean for the first time I have observed on this site since my returning.


Hi slam, brown is the color of the earth and something we all must cherish and love.

Is the color green as important as brown to you? as it is the color of life and growth?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 16:14 GMT
#328
On January 17 2017 01:12 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:07 Damdred wrote:
On January 17 2017 01:02 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:39 Damdred wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:25 Hapahauli wrote:
On January 16 2017 05:16 Damdred wrote:
Here is the thing hapa I already have a pretty solid read on me currently. And that he is probably town at this point moving forward.

How did I get here? Why thank you for asking!

You see it starts with me having bad reasons that are correct. LS makes a meta point about my play and how I react to him, ( ie of I legit push him as scum and he flips town im scum as I read him like 100%). Town point.

States things that are clear as day at points even jokes. Town point (really lacks much of this as scum).

And seems to be able to give ok if not lower thought process on current events. So he's just town.

And that went on longer than I wanted


Okay.

Is this a case you would make on other townies, or is there something meta-specific here about LS? How confident is this read, scale of 1 to 10?



It's something meta specific to ls. He's incredibly lazy, isn't really confrontational and lays super low as scum.

He can get past these of his partner is someone he lives and pushed his buttons and rides him hard.

I would give it an 7-8 atm. Probably halfway through the day I can lock in depending. But some nice meta things on ls.


Damdred, update me on this. Right now, I'm seeing the bolded from LS.


I actually see differently after I looked at his filter and read the thread. Yeah hes not super in tune yet with his reads being present but hes going out of his way to find examples of previous games where certain situations have occured.

Mainly dealing with me, but I think its a good sign that he is doing things like that. I think it shows the opposite of being lazy, not many people would bother to comb throughg ames to find examples of what hes talking about.

Wouldn't lynch today at all, but i think hes pretty towny currently.


I think many people would. Is that just a standard for LS?


Yep LS digs up meta hes probably town, he just says it does nothing probably scum.

Overall LS has a hard time breaking meta besides some random anger outbursts at points meh. And hes more helpful as town.

Really its kinda a crappy read but its sort of just right.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 16:51 GMT
#358
On January 17 2017 01:38 Hapahauli wrote:
I need an explanation for some of your posts last night Damdred.

1)
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 09:43 Damdred wrote:
Eh I'm partial to people defending me tbh. I think it's it's non point though both ways as I have no reason to lie about mistaking something.

Maybe hapa could be scum but I sont think it makes him scum here.

2)
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 09:47 Damdred wrote:
Eh if like to talk some actually hf.

I don't like hapa post for a couple reasons. One I don't want to talk about as you kinda covered it.

But he soft defended me and I hate soft defends. Like I think its a great mafia thing to do asbit leaves his options open which he does.

3)
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2017 10:14 Damdred wrote:
Ok fine with family time so I can make an actual good response.

Vivax was pretty t owny from his first few posts (to this point). That was why the fight originally felt a bit strange and off to me, it seemed like hapa was going after vivax for no real reason except to have things to do

I didn't question the unvotw because I felt like vivax was only getting more towny aas it went. (Vivax only real meh moment was his read on you). So it felt like at the time hapa just realized vivax was making sense to me.

I think outside that hapa should tell us how he reads vivax now. And how he actually reads the interchange between hf and myself.


You make all three of these posts last night basically back to back to back.
- In post 1, you say you are "partial" to people defending you, which implies that you liked my defense of you. You ultimately conclude that my posting was at the very least non-alignment indicative.
- In post 2, merely 4 minutes later, this you call me mafia for the same reasons as in post 1.
- In post 3, 20 minutes later, you talk about me a ton, but waffle between calling my actions scummy and calling them excusable.

I don't understand this train of thought at all.


Yeah I am partial to people defending me, I have a soft spot. But I reread your post and it wasn't really a defense in your conclusions it was more of a "soft" defense of me as you concluded I still could be scum. And I was like meh I don't like this so much after all, then I talk about my feelings in post three.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 17:03 GMT
#372
On January 17 2017 01:55 Hapahauli wrote:
I don't know where you stand on anything Damdred, except for LS.


Sure you do if you read what I say

Town:

LS
Vivax
HF

Gut feeling:
Slam

not in any order

Null leaning:

Happa
Rels
Onegu
BM

I probably could move hapa to town if i really squinted but i'd rather him squirm under the ire of the storm.

Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 17:04 GMT
#373
On January 17 2017 02:02 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:56 Rels wrote:
Hapa I might be tunneled. But again all of these questions seem pointless to me. They look good but won't add anything meaningful. Not the Vivax one, but the other two


What I'm ultimately trying to get at with Damdred, is that I feel he's been a non-entity this game. The contributions he has made have not been of his own volition, but have been from his responses to people questioning him.

The only thing he's been vocal about is a read on lightning strike (which he made in response to my various lines of questioning during the game). Other than that, his read on me last night sort of morphs and changes with whatever HolyFlare was posting at the time.

The question on you was because I was looking into Vivax's case, which still doesn't make much sense to me.


This just isn't true at all.

I volunteered my read on LS, which nobody questioned before Rels did granted.

Gave my opinion of Vivax v Hapa multiple times. answered questions about it then.

Gave my opinion to HF about some things i didn't like about hapa.

Went to bed, now i'm here
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 17:07 GMT
#376
If you think i'm scum for what yoru saying the voting thread is right over there. So stop beating around the bush and throwing shade to see who picks it up.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 17:08 GMT
#378
On January 17 2017 02:01 Rels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:59 Holyflare wrote:
Uh who was saying ls doesn't post links to filters as mafia? Cos he does in one of his games

Damdred. But I reread LS last game and he only linked filters when he was asked, and stricly the things that were asked. In this game what's different is that he went looking for 2 more games after he had already answered the question.


Thsi is kind of the point I was making when I said town LS is helpful where scum LS isn't really helpful and doesn't go the extra mile but meh.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 17:09 GMT
#379
On January 17 2017 02:07 Holyflare wrote:
Don't you think it was merely a typo? :D


^_-.

(theres another explanation but I like the joke better)
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 17:12 GMT
#386
I think slam is town though just for gut reasons though.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 17:21 GMT
#392
On January 17 2017 02:18 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 02:11 Hapahauli wrote:
Honestly, I have reasons to think every active poster is town, and I'm trying to look for any lead I can. I guess it is "shade throwing" to an outside eye. I'm just usually at a point where I have more concrete reads at this point in the game, and I just don't have them.

The closest thing I have to a scumread is Slam, but I'm very wary of the lynchbait factor there.

See so many people here would call this scummy. Because it "lacks commitment and scum have trouble scumreading people because they know you are town"

But sometimes you just dont have anything but townreads for a time. And jumping on people leads to ML which should be avoided if possible.

But no because D1 is always a coin flip you have to scumread anyone or why the hell couod you be town? Lol

But d1 is in fact a coin flip usually, so...


I also like this post from slam.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 17:23 GMT
#396
On January 17 2017 02:18 LightningStrike wrote:
Damdred:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 01:07 LightningStrike wrote:
On January 17 2017 00:57 Damdred wrote:
On January 16 2017 23:20 LightningStrike wrote:
Maybe I just a sucker to Damdred since I haven't played with him for a while and I really missed playing with him.


I missed you to baby boy.

Hey what you think of Hapa vs HF from last night or at least clairify this post a little bit more:
On January 16 2017 09:47 Damdred wrote:
Eh if like to talk some actually hf.

I don't like hapa post for a couple reasons. One I don't want to talk about as you kinda covered it.

But he soft defended me and I hate soft defends. Like I think its a great mafia thing to do asbit leaves his options open which he does.




I don't know yet, I think there is a good shot HF is town. I have hapa as null right now but his pressure on me and his last post about town reads and not having much to scum read has me thinking maybe i had it right the first time.

So far its a pretty hard game tbh. I still stand by my sudden change of opinon on hapas post though.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 20:38 GMT
#445
Well as long as my death is peaceful.

Honestly i probably just won't be here for lynch tomorrow so if we majority on me before I leave I kind of just have to accept it now. I basically have frmo now until 9 pm eastern to do things then i might dissapear until after lynch.

Sadly not to have sex with my wife for 17 hours straight :'(. I'll try to find something thats interesting to me but its just not to interesting yet in thread i guess.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 20:58 GMT
#448
On January 17 2017 05:46 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 05:38 Damdred wrote:
Well as long as my death is peaceful.

Honestly i probably just won't be here for lynch tomorrow so if we majority on me before I leave I kind of just have to accept it now. I basically have frmo now until 9 pm eastern to do things then i might dissapear until after lynch.

Sadly not to have sex with my wife for 17 hours straight :'(. I'll try to find something thats interesting to me but its just not to interesting yet in thread i guess.


Wasn't it Rels with the 17 hours of sex excuse?

Back on topic: It seems you understand why you're being scumread, so you surely also understand that if you completely changed your attitude now and started looking for more scumhunt-y content to talk about, it would be hard for most to buy it as it would be an obvious reaction to the accusations.

Buuuut, really? Not even a tiny bit of suspicion on anyone?


Well I have said suspicion on hapa at this point, there was some discussiona bout it earlier. If I had to say who I would lynch between would be between BM/Onegu/Rels/Hapa though.

honestly I feel like I could be lynched we have roughly 19ish hours left, we could policy lynch BM I guess. I could see being lynched here as I think a few people have pretty towny things about them.

As for looking more now its kinda meh but if i'm lycnhed woudl rather have some kind of thoughts in the game I guess?
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
January 16 2017 20:59 GMT
#449
On January 17 2017 05:54 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 17 2017 05:38 Damdred wrote:
Well as long as my death is peaceful.

Honestly i probably just won't be here for lynch tomorrow so if we majority on me before I leave I kind of just have to accept it now. I basically have frmo now until 9 pm eastern to do things then i might dissapear until after lynch.

Sadly not to have sex with my wife for 17 hours straight :'(. I'll try to find something thats interesting to me but its just not to interesting yet in thread i guess.


You don't have any time at all whatsoever between now and lynch?


Hapa you not read my post tsk tsk tsk
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