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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 18 2017 19:41 GMT
#1220
either way it's irrelevant what you think of me because we're lynching slam
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 18 2017 19:56 GMT
#1222
Read his actual filter and saw the reference to 3 mafia more times than he linked. The way he elaborated upon the me/you/damdred mafia team because of what he thought my stance on damdred was, had some thought process behind it. Then his obstinate disregard for everything but eventually actually talking it through. And his want of more people to talk to other than just me and you.

I was stubborn yeh but in my world someone literally just did that 3 mafia slip in the last game (like 1 week ago!!) so I didn't check to see if vivax had posted in there/said something about it until this morning (he didn't) and his wanting to be on not ls and berating us felt very very similar to haunted mansion. The difference being I didn't call him out on his bluff this game.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 18 2017 19:59 GMT
#1223
Also I think the nk is highly suboptimal but I have a theory and I'll see where it goes.

+ Show Spoiler +
sookrtfoottlpawputaawi
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 18 2017 20:24 GMT
#1226
I'm not argumentative!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 18 2017 22:21 GMT
#1227
this game became entirely boring
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 19 2017 07:09 GMT
#1232
It's a sad state of the game where a guy doesn't even defend himself and still can't reach a majority.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 19 2017 09:34 GMT
#1245
On January 19 2017 16:15 Alakaslam wrote:
Arrival in LAX! :D

I <3 California

Hapa as far as I remember I was basically like 1. I have no time and 2. Anyone but HF/Hapa.

I expected one of you to get shot and as that didn't happen, one of you is very likely scum as only one of you would be willing to risk the other in the game afaik.

Then as I went to vote Damdred or HF the choice didn't matter as once the truck got rolling I lost reception entirely for the rest of the day.

The whole time I was in Nebraska, reading or loading a page was so taxing on my phone's battery and my patience both, that I was posting much and reading little.

But now California :D

This is what I joined for


Couple of things really.

1. Why does the nk implicate that one of us is mafia when there's the possibility of a medic?

2. What do you mean "only one of you is willing to risk the other in the game"?

3. Why do you say you don't want to vote me or hapa but then vote me at deadline?

4. Why do you say you are going to find your own scum read but then disappear and haven't even read.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 19 2017 16:18 GMT
#1257
On January 20 2017 00:59 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 00:09 Vivax wrote:
Why are you so sure that HF is town?



Im not but I think hapa looks worse than HF at this point. And I would lynch hapa over HF here. I also doubt they are a scum team together. There was enough lynch bait in this game they didnt need to do so...


But that's what I don't get that both you and slam keep perpetuating, why does there have to be a choice between me/hapa?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 19 2017 16:19 GMT
#1258
And why do you keep not town reading me but effectively calling me town?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 19 2017 19:08 GMT
#1302
On January 20 2017 02:22 Hapahauli wrote:
HF because he has a lot of activity but isn't pushing the game anywhere. The only thing I remember him really "leading" this game is his vote on Damdred early day 1. Other than that, he followed Vivax on his Damdred pressure, followed me on my pressure of Vivax, followed me again on my pressure on Slam with this:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 12:29 Holyflare wrote:
On January 18 2017 12:26 Hapahauli wrote:
First post was 30 minutes out from deadline.

Next two posts were 15-10 or so.

Anyway here are the series of posts he has at deadline. Keep in mind the first post (particularly the underlined/bolded part) as you read the rest of it.
On January 18 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
I have caught up and. Prices something earlier, that coupled with recent events makes Rels town.

I will invite-

However, if HF flips green we have to lynch Hapa. I think this is just a terrible idea day1.

But ultimately, I'd rather lose HF than Hapa. HF is not the best player here, he is the other of the greats.

I will not lynch him today. If you all do that fine, I will find who I think is scum.

On January 18 2017 01:03 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 18 2017 00:59 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
I have caught up and. Prices something earlier, that coupled with recent events makes Rels town.

I will invite-

However, if HF flips green we have to lynch Hapa. I think this is just a terrible idea day1.

But ultimately, I'd rather lose HF than Hapa. HF is not the best player here, he is the other of the greats.

I will not lynch him today. If you all do that fine, I will find who I think is scum.


That's nonsense. If HF flips green it doesn't automatically point you to another lynch.

Pretty selfish of you to act that way, too. Maybe remember others like to play this game more seriously than you do?

This is actually serious play. It's selfish to work within my own means rather than just sheep? Please tell me why; it would take far less effort to go "whoooo let's lynch HF"

Like isn't that what I'd usually do anyway? Your reaction is confusing me big time:

On January 18 2017 01:06 Alakaslam wrote:
The reason is that if Hapa is scum and he is lynching Holyflare, he will dominate. End of story.

But we would have to wait for him to survive night

I just realized this is more wifom then I had thought. Vivax is right.

Dammit I hate this situation so bad

On January 18 2017 01:08 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:05 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:03 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 18 2017 00:59 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 00:58 Alakaslam wrote:
I have caught up and. Prices something earlier, that coupled with recent events makes Rels town.

I will invite-

However, if HF flips green we have to lynch Hapa. I think this is just a terrible idea day1.

But ultimately, I'd rather lose HF than Hapa. HF is not the best player here, he is the other of the greats.

I will not lynch him today. If you all do that fine, I will find who I think is scum.


That's nonsense. If HF flips green it doesn't automatically point you to another lynch.

Pretty selfish of you to act that way, too. Maybe remember others like to play this game more seriously than you do?

This is actually serious play. It's selfish to work within my own means rather than just sheep? Please tell me why; it would take far less effort to go "whoooo let's lynch HF"

Like isn't that what I'd usually do anyway? Your reaction is confusing me big time:


It's selfish to risk a no lynch, is what I mean. You can scumhunt on your own disregarding our opinions all you like but please slam, don't let us slide into a no lynch. What you wrote sounds like you will waste your vote if it suits you.

Aaand I forgot it was this type.

If HF is the only wagon, and needs a vote to be lynched, I will hammer.

On January 18 2017 01:12 Alakaslam wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:09 Vivax wrote:
On January 18 2017 01:06 Alakaslam wrote:
The reason is that if Hapa is scum and he is lynching Holyflare, he will dominate. End of story.

But we would have to wait for him to survive night

I just realized this is more wifom then I had thought. Vivax is right.

Dammit I hate this situation so bad


What do you think of Damdred? I think both him and HF have an equal shot at flipping mafia but I have to make compromises if we want to lynch, so right now I don't have a preference for HF, but others do.

TBH I struggle to read Damdred. He was most active during a time when I was inactive, then left the site on my return.

I mostly read by meta tbh.the capability I have for logic other than on-the-spot is pretty time consuming, and I just don't have it.

On January 18 2017 01:13 Alakaslam wrote:
I would far rather lynch Damdred but in majority I have to compromise to get a lynch.


He makes a bunch of posts, he's clearly active. Does it look to you like he's trying to find mafia (as he said he would early on)? He just waffles around, posts a bunch, does nothing, and arrives at the conclusion that he'd support a Damdred lynch despite having misgivings on Damdred.

That's not scumhunting.


Well that's different. You only linked 2 posts before, pretty much the same as onegu but more waffle. Would lynch.


He's also being really, really thick about certain things, and I don't think OMGUS explains all of that away.

Lastly, I think Rels really hit the nail on the head here:
Show nested quote +
On January 19 2017 01:26 Rels wrote:
leaving work. I've said what I think. Only thing new is that HF seems prone to try and shitfight while claiming he wanna end the fight. Maybe.
See you tomorrow if I'm alive


Each is probably individually excusable. All together points to mafia HF IMO.


U fooking wut m8? Could that be gross misrepresentation I see over thar?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 19 2017 19:11 GMT
#1306
Why are you saying I'm not pushing anything when I literally spent the entirety of day 1 pushing things hapa? That's the most full of crap post I've seen in a long time.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 19 2017 19:14 GMT
#1309
On January 20 2017 03:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 03:39 Hapahauli wrote:
What do you mean by "damage control mode?"

Also, "he was the most likely alternative" doesn't mean very much. You thought he was mafia? You thought he was a non-HF candidate that could plausibly be lynched?

I felt he was the most likely alternative to HF. He was a non-HF candidate that could be lynched. I don't see a definitions difference:

And, I believe others are better readers than I. Let me just lay your own words before you; that sometimes town needs to be willing to sheep so that experienced players can pull their lynches off.

Sure, you have the most experience here and you wanted to kill HF, but I wasn't ready for that and I think we will see that pay off. Because that would not be optimal.

To get in my head a little, you have to remember that I recognize my own relative inability to read until I get a really good one. If I don't have the epic read yet, I will look and act passively scummy.


Who the fuck says this?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 19 2017 19:19 GMT
#1313
On January 20 2017 04:13 Hapahauli wrote:
Yes, only when you were forced in a position where you *had* to do something.

My point is that you have no initiative.


Is this a joke? Push damdred, go to bed, wake up push hapa. At what point did I have to be forced to do something? There was no break between your bs posts and me pushing them.

You call it omgus yet the entirety of my push on you had legitimate reasons. And, now, what's the most hilarious of them all is that AT NIGHT you have now completely 180d on damdred!!!! So, what I called you out for that you now agree was correct or at least a better point of view by virtue of you changing your damdred read has somehow been diminished to just omgus!

Answer me hapa. What's different between slam afking and not defending himself in the space of time from night to this morning that was different about damdred? You only gave damdred 4 hours at best.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 19 2017 19:20 GMT
#1314
And by the way. I take back my town read of you. The more I think about a hapa mind the more I dislike that you can even call me mafia after literally saving your life.

Unlucky.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 19 2017 19:24 GMT
#1316
On January 20 2017 04:18 Alakaslam wrote:
(What is your point HF?)


Do you super strong town read me day 1?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 19 2017 19:32 GMT
#1320
I wasn't around when onegu was and slam was the latest post on the page, what's next?

Also how did rels post the martyr thing first? That's a lie. I called out his posts and added him to The List™ and then rels did so afterwards.

Nice try though. I'm biding my time on onegu.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 19 2017 19:32 GMT
#1321
On January 20 2017 04:31 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2017 04:20 Holyflare wrote:
And by the way. I take back my town read of you. The more I think about a hapa mind the more I dislike that you can even call me mafia after literally saving your life.

Unlucky.


You already explained in your filter why the bolded doesn't make any sense.


? What
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 19 2017 19:33 GMT
#1322
The rels thing is an actual lie by the way. I see your shit throwing and I raise you facts
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 19 2017 19:35 GMT
#1323
Sure I'm just sitting around now not doing much but I can't force activity out of inactive people. And I'm lazy.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30774 Posts
January 19 2017 19:37 GMT
#1325
On January 18 2017 23:32 Rels wrote:
This is the scummiest sequence of posts in the thread:
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 18 2017 01:14 Onegu wrote:
I am here. I dont want to lynch HF. I really dont want to. Dont lynch HF.

On January 18 2017 01:14 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 01:13 Alakaslam wrote:
I would far rather lynch Damdred but in majority I have to compromise to get a lynch.



Would lynch Damdred over HF

On January 18 2017 01:48 Onegu wrote:
Sigh who are we lynching? I dont want to lynch HF. But I will hammer if I have to but really really dont want to.

On January 18 2017 02:11 Onegu wrote:
Would let you lynch me over HF. I think he is a coin flip at best and the chance that he is town and wins it for me would give him mvp and me the second most points for saving him. Im willing to risk it.

On January 18 2017 02:12 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:12 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:11 Onegu wrote:
Would let you lynch me over HF. I think he is a coin flip at best and the chance that he is town and wins it for me would give him mvp and me the second most points for saving him. Im willing to risk it.

this follows what u said earlier that in mylo hf would nail mafia and i agree but i dont want to lose u because i have a town read on you so why cant we find someone other than EITHER of u



I would prefer this.

On January 18 2017 02:24 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:23 Damdred wrote:
Ls vote on hf is so bad and is scrum indicative of him I think, lure she do for no reason



This isnt English

On January 18 2017 02:25 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:24 Holyflare wrote:
##unvote
##vote ls


maybe a bit late but I read hapa's scum games :D



Ok I can do this

##Unvote

##Vote: LightningStrike

On January 18 2017 02:25 Onegu wrote:
Yeah hammer plz

On January 18 2017 02:27 Onegu wrote:
Yeah not lynching vivax...


Onegu was there. Non contributing. Posting stuff that doesn't make sense on HF since he doesn't townread him, based on "IF HF IS TOWN ITS A BAD LYNCH". Not having a read on anyone else save me. The "Lynch me over HF" is bad too. It comes at a timing where it's very unlikely he's lynched. Seems forced.
His explanation is BS too:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 06:01 Onegu wrote:
The martyr post. You are wrong. It was just posted right before that Rels would lynch me if not HF. It was in response to that post that I would rather be lynched than HF.

On January 18 2017 02:05 Rels wrote:
The only other lynch I could do is Onegu. But I prefer HF


So his main scumread (me) posts that he wants to switch to him, and he's OK with him ? + the martyr post comes after that:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:06 Bill Murray wrote:
i dont want to lynch onegu i think hes town

And this:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2017 02:09 Bill Murray wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:08 Holyflare wrote:
On January 18 2017 02:06 Hapahauli wrote:
HF, that case is entirely bullshit, because you assume this is a normal game. It's not. Up until this morning, it's been an unproductive snoozefest where no one has been able to do much of anything, let alone look townie or find mafia.

What do you make of my push on you? You obviously disagree with it as either alignment. But is the push likely to come from town me or mafia me?


I have no idea because I don't know what a staple town you or mafia you is. I'm going by what I imagine a player that has been lynched 0-1 times as town would play and I know you're capable of wall of flashy text. I think all your reasons for voting people are surface level and say nothing.

It has minimal pages but there's a LOT of content to go on.

agreed and agreed

personally, guys, i dont want to lynch HF right now

he is playing better and more townie than some (damdred, ls, alakaslam) to name 3

+ HF pushing Hapa.
So it makes it even mor eunlikely that Onegu is the lynch.


Almost 24 hours after me to be exact.
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