There's no one left here.

I am the Doctor

This claim is very easily counter claimable and well worth it if I am scum. If there is no counter claim then for all intents and purposes I should be confirmed.

Swika town reads all of the people that agree with them and scum reads those that do not. At the rate we are going we will mow through the town.

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 21:08 GMT

#680

SW & ika

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 21:14 GMT

#690

On January 08 2017 06:13 Calix wrote:

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TPR claim with 3 hours left in the day? Fan-fucking-tastic.

Unless someone counterclaims then I'm moving my vote to Vivax. I prefer him over KSC.

I didn't know how active people were going to be at the end. Votes are stickier in newbie games.

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 21:15 GMT

#695

This blame for this one is not falling on me lol.

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 21:16 GMT

#698

On January 08 2017 06:16 ika42 wrote:

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Your scum buddies told you to claim doc?

I mean if your town we have confirmed scum in the ohter.

He's not though, unfortunately.

But he will be lynched after.

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 21:17 GMT

#699

But I do think that if he doesn't unclaim he should be the day 2 lynch.

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 21:25 GMT

#712

On January 08 2017 06:23 Calix wrote:
Why the fuck would a VT counter-claim Medic? That's extremely anti-town given that the Medic would likely die at night.

It happens very frequently.

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 21:26 GMT

#718

On January 08 2017 06:26 darthfoley wrote:
So Grack has to be real doc or mafia, no?

Yes. I am not VT.

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 21:26 GMT

#722

On January 08 2017 06:26 ika42 wrote:

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I want to see a game where it has happened here on this site

Look up any game with Raynpelikoneet.

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 21:27 GMT

#723

On January 08 2017 06:26 Calix wrote:

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Are you thinking this is the case here then?

I'm super confused as to how people's first reactions to a cc situation is "both of them are town"

I believe so, yes.

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 21:32 GMT

#730

On January 08 2017 06:31 beentheredonethat wrote:
I will not be around at deadline as it is 01:00AM in the morning for me. Already saying this.

These guys will 100% lynch you tomorrow if you don't un-claim. And I think rightfully so.

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 21:37 GMT

#737

On January 08 2017 06:35 Kmatt wrote:
Alright every time I go back to start reading 4 pages get tacked on the end (I'm on post 621 as of this reply) so I'm just going to take a moment to answer DF from earlier.

My shtick with Grace's nonsense wasn't that he had a feel/gut read on Vivax being town (as you said I had posted the same earlier), but that he claimed to have built this substantial case, hid it from the thread, had that stupid argument, postee his "evidence" of the read and only at the very end backtracked to say it was and gut read as null along. That's what got my goat, running circles only to conclude he made 90% of this case up.

Where did I claim that I had a substantial case for Vivax being town?

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 21:42 GMT

#747

On January 08 2017 06:39 beentheredonethat wrote:

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No, I will be dead 100% in the night since I'm the doc and I will be shot.

Brilliant.

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 21:50 GMT

#758

I don't think there was anything wrong with the timing of my claim. I believe I was in the vote lead with Silverwolf and ika both voting me. That probably wasn't going to end well for me.

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 21:52 GMT

#760

On January 08 2017 06:52 ika42 wrote:

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On January 08 2017 06:46 Calix wrote:

On January 08 2017 06:45 ika42 wrote:

On January 08 2017 06:43 Calix wrote:

On January 08 2017 06:40 Vivax wrote:

On January 08 2017 06:38 Calix wrote:

On January 08 2017 06:34 Vivax wrote:

On January 08 2017 06:31 Calix wrote:
I think ika/ SW and myself are having the same culture shock tbh.

Fake ccs are extremely rare on our site.

I would trust BTDT to do such a thing cause he's 1) In two games, 2) His play is pretty f*ing weird this game and I don't know if he's a tilting town or rolled scum and sees no hope of winning or something.

I'm just ignoring the claims cause Grack imo is simply town, claim or not, and mafia will sort it out for us at night cause they'd be stupid not to kill a doctor.

As with most discussion around claims for lynching, it's mostly useless. I prefer sticking to the old plan and lynching Kelsier for his initial comment on the game and not being around as someone who is capable of caring as town.

No. One of them has to die because they'll cause too much disruption re: WIFOM.

Scum has RBer so they'll just claim that's why they were left alive and time will be wasted on discussing whether they're town or scum fake-claiming and blah blah blah.

I'd rather clear shit up right now.

Yes and spend the next two days on autopilot, and worst case they both flip town and town accomplished nothing besides mislynching the doctor while mafia can focus on picking off targets for their play and not their role.

In all bluntess: Your plan sucks

Obviously we wouldn't just focus on those two for two days, that's burning time.

But there is no way that both of them can be allowed to live and disrupt discussion. Optimal play is to lynch the guy who got cc'd. That much is clear to me.

If he's the real medic then we'll go from there and I'll try to keep the weird "woo VTs cc all the time" argument that you guys seem to be using in mind but as it stands, I cannot fathom how fucking bad a play that is for VT to do.

Oh trust me, if both are VTs (or even one of them and other is doc) there will be an uproar coming from me post game.

You know it's bad when I actually agree with you, lol.

bad is the understatemnt. Silverwolf would be wanting somoens head on a platter if its the case

I wouldn't want to be that guy.

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 21:53 GMT

#761

Silverwolf/ika/Calix post game flaming session. Sounds pleasant.

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 21:54 GMT

#762

I'll leave a list of reads at the end of the lynch. The scum reads will be much weaker than the town reads.

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 21:58 GMT

#766

On January 08 2017 06:58 Vivax wrote:

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You sound like some bloated up politician just to jump on the most common pile. That makes this post pretty scummy.

Agreed on that post.

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 22:01 GMT

#770

On January 08 2017 07:00 Vivax wrote:
Hmm dunno I feel like I'm at a crossroads. Scumread squishy for that post or not, that's the question

You should probably be able to figure it out later. I had him in my town list previously.

Grackaroni

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January 07 2017 22:07 GMT

#775

On January 08 2017 07:04 darthfoley wrote:

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Why do you think btdt is town cc?

Because they usually are. And he seemed townie to me earlier.

By not un-claiming though he is messing things up massively. Getting two townies lynched is not worth "saving the doctor from revealing himself."