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SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 08 2017 18:25 GMT
#902
ME-do you have any reads or anything on anyone?
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 08 2017 19:18 GMT
#916
On January 09 2017 04:12 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 03:33 Calix wrote:
On January 09 2017 03:30 beentheredonethat wrote:
Well guys. It's very simple. I didn't buy the claim of Doctor so I chose to counterclaim. If it was a fakeclaim => great, scum down! If not - Doc down. Awkward but that was supposed to happen N1 anyways.

So you can go all nuts like "noooes, btdt you scummer" and lynch into the Cop that I am - OR you can chill the fuck out and play this game calmly.


Are you seriously claiming that you counterclaimed a Medic as the Cop?

What the actual fuck was the play there?

errrr im not the cop im vanilla town


Get lynched.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 08 2017 19:21 GMT
#919
btdt is scum flailing

If he's town he needs a game ban after this for griefing and borderline game throwing.

I have asked ME for reads twice now and he's ignored me. I say we lynch him after btdt. B0ston after that.

If these 3 are the scumteam, I wouldn't be surprised.

SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 08 2017 19:59 GMT
#929
On January 09 2017 04:49 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 04:21 SilverWolf77 wrote:
btdt is scum flailing

If he's town he needs a game ban after this for griefing and borderline game throwing.

I have asked ME for reads twice now and he's ignored me. I say we lynch him after btdt. B0ston after that.

If these 3 are the scumteam, I wouldn't be surprised.


Why have you been pressuring me for a read ? I don't understand it. I'll give you my read, when I have one. Instead go read the thread and look at people who claimed they had a read and haven't given one. You are actually behaving exactly like squishy when it comes to asking people for reads.


Have you ever played forum mafia before? Asking for reads is a big part of the game and the fact that you don't like be asked and don't want to contribute to the game is either scum and/or someone who shouldn't be playing.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 08 2017 20:00 GMT
#930
Also, all you are doing is defending yourself which is also scummy.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 08 2017 20:58 GMT
#950
On January 09 2017 05:41 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 04:56 Calix wrote:
On January 09 2017 04:49 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:
On January 09 2017 04:21 SilverWolf77 wrote:
btdt is scum flailing

If he's town he needs a game ban after this for griefing and borderline game throwing.

I have asked ME for reads twice now and he's ignored me. I say we lynch him after btdt. B0ston after that.

If these 3 are the scumteam, I wouldn't be surprised.


Why have you been pressuring me for a read ? I don't understand it. I'll give you my read, when I have one. Instead go read the thread and look at people who claimed they had a read and haven't given one. You are actually behaving exactly like squishy when it comes to asking people for reads.


"Don't look at my scummy behaviour, go look for people who are doing this other scummy thing instead!"

Who falls under your criteria of "claims to have a read without giving one" exactly?

Also lol at "why are you pressuring me for reads" in a game about analysing players by what they write.


Well KSC hasn't given any reads. But I don't think he claimed anything, I skimmed through everyone's filters. Onegu actually said that he was going to defend SW as town ( and i thought he didn't ) but he actually did. So quite a bit of oversight from me.

Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 04:56 ika42 wrote:
On January 09 2017 04:49 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:
On January 09 2017 04:21 SilverWolf77 wrote:
btdt is scum flailing

If he's town he needs a game ban after this for griefing and borderline game throwing.

I have asked ME for reads twice now and he's ignored me. I say we lynch him after btdt. B0ston after that.

If these 3 are the scumteam, I wouldn't be surprised.


Why have you been pressuring me for a read ? I don't understand it. I'll give you my read, when I have one. Instead go read the thread and look at people who claimed they had a read and haven't given one. You are actually behaving exactly like squishy when it comes to asking people for reads.


or you can explain why the fuck you have no reads after the day 1 shit.

everyone else has given them in one form or another so dont dodge the question at hand


I didn't dodge the question, I just said I don't have concrete reads. And why is it necessary to have reads after the day 1 shit ? If anything it just confuses me. Like why did you not give an argument for why SW is town. or why did you match grack's stubbornness with your own.


Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 05:03 ika42 wrote:
On January 09 2017 04:58 Kmatt wrote:
So if we're all in agreement that BTDT is long overdue for being mounted on a fence post, who do you think among potential scum is up for the following vote? B0ston and ME are the obvious choices but like Calix said I can't help but think at least one of the mafia is actively mucking the thread up. Granted this guy has his work cut out for him at the moment.


I want ME dead. At best hes scum. at worst hes a town who needs to learn to play forum mafia.

I am being blunt on this issue too: if you cant get reads or dont like being pressure or stuff like that, then dont be here. This is a game of convincing and pressuring and talking. If you cant handle some heat, then you dont need to be in the kitchen.

I am being blunt on the issue, this game is for noobs. Thanks for the support.


Just because it's for noobs doesn't excuse not playing.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 08 2017 21:03 GMT
#951
On January 09 2017 05:26 beentheredonethat wrote:
Also guys calling for bans for griefing: I genuinely thought it's a good idea and had no idea that Grack was the actual doctor. Keep in mind he completely unnecessary claimed Doc at a point where it was just dumb (or scum-motivated!) to do so.

Which led me to the decision of counter-claiming because I thought:

1. If he's doctor, he's dead N1, so lynch D1 isn't bad
2. If he's not doctor, we got scum down

I took a risk. It did not pay off. You can, as I said, continue to tilt which is going to be absolutely great for scum, or you can try to get people to talk and continue to find scum. Your choice.


For your first point, there's no guarantee he'd be shot. He could be roleblocked and scum could shoot elsewhere looking for the other PR. You did their job for them by getting Grack killed if you are town which is crap play. No excuse since you aren't new to the game. It hurts town in every way.

For your second, you didn't even scum read him. You could easily say you don't believe the claim and see how he reacts or you could let the situation be resolved by:

a) nightkill confirming him as doctor-best move
b) finding out who he's targeting at night and if they are alive next day
c) seeing how long he lives himself



SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 08 2017 21:04 GMT
#952
Also, if you thought he was scum fakeclaiming, let the actual doc or another PR cc and get confirmed scum. Yeah, it outs a PR but it's worth it to kill confirmed scum.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 09 2017 00:00 GMT
#970
How long does a person have to be absent from the thread before they are replaced? It bothers me that Kelsier was so active and then just disappeared but it could be real life.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 09 2017 00:01 GMT
#971
If btdt flips town, I'm gonna wonder how Vivax was so certain they were both town.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 09 2017 00:31 GMT
#985
Did anyone else get roleblocked feedback?
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 09 2017 00:35 GMT
#989
On January 09 2017 09:31 reps)squishy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 09:26 darthfoley wrote:
On January 09 2017 09:22 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 09 2017 09:19 beentheredonethat wrote:
I got roleblocked. But noone is going to believe that anyways^^ so good night


I am now leaning btdt as town.
@Onegu: do you still stand by this statement?
On January 08 2017 14:07 Onegu wrote:
Just FYI 100% we lynch btdt tomorrow. Even though I give btdt a 30% chance of being scum. He has to be lynched. It is a terrible play as scum as scum could just shoot him. The only way it becomes a ok play is if they think the lynch would go from grack to a actual scum player. Even then its not great as btdt wasnt being looked at. I think it comes from town more often than not who thinks he will save the actual doctor from having to CC and then lynch scum and eat a bullet. Wanting to make the hero play. But this play needs to be punished. Plus a 30% chance to hit scum is fine.


you're gonna have to explain that one to me.

Why?

I cannot see him making that up if he were scum...


I can.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 09 2017 00:43 GMT
#997
On January 09 2017 09:40 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 09:38 ika42 wrote:
On January 09 2017 09:35 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:
On January 09 2017 09:30 ika42 wrote:
Cool silver is town

How do you know that ?


Have you been reading the game?

That is irrelevant, I ask how do you know SW is town, you just claimed it. Don't put it back on me, I say we lynch ika this night. Then you can lynch me the next night. Fuck this guy.


We are not lynching ika as long as I'm alive. I'll lynch you first.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 09 2017 00:46 GMT
#1000
On January 09 2017 09:37 darthfoley wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 09 2017 09:35 SilverWolf77 wrote:
On January 09 2017 09:31 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 09 2017 09:26 darthfoley wrote:
On January 09 2017 09:22 reps)squishy wrote:
On January 09 2017 09:19 beentheredonethat wrote:
I got roleblocked. But noone is going to believe that anyways^^ so good night


I am now leaning btdt as town.
@Onegu: do you still stand by this statement?
On January 08 2017 14:07 Onegu wrote:
Just FYI 100% we lynch btdt tomorrow. Even though I give btdt a 30% chance of being scum. He has to be lynched. It is a terrible play as scum as scum could just shoot him. The only way it becomes a ok play is if they think the lynch would go from grack to a actual scum player. Even then its not great as btdt wasnt being looked at. I think it comes from town more often than not who thinks he will save the actual doctor from having to CC and then lynch scum and eat a bullet. Wanting to make the hero play. But this play needs to be punished. Plus a 30% chance to hit scum is fine.


you're gonna have to explain that one to me.

Why?

I cannot see him making that up if he were scum...


I can.


Why?


Have you seen all the BS he's spewing? I'm the doc, no I'm the cop, no I'm a VT, no I'm the cop, no I'm a VT, no I was roleblocked. Scum could easily hold back a roleblock and then claim it, trying to look town with it.


SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 09 2017 00:49 GMT
#1002
#Vote: beentheredonethat
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 09 2017 00:53 GMT
#1005
One thing that bothers me is if we have a vig and they got their shot off, and the doc is dead, why is there only one kill?

Did scum also go for Vivax or did they mess up and not submit a kill? If scum is all new people or not active, that could be the case. I do find it odd that Vivax would be a scum kill given all of the people scumreading him but I guess it's possible they shot him as well.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 09 2017 01:18 GMT
#1013
It could be someone that knows Vivax and considers him a threat or it could be getting rid of a veteran player who was active in the thread.

Vivax did vote for ME and KelsierSC, suspected darthfoley, Squishy as well. I'd need to filter dive to see if there is anything else there.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 09 2017 19:48 GMT
#1047
I have to leave for a little bit but I think scum is in btdt, ME, B0ston, KelsierSC.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 09 2017 20:36 GMT
#1061
Btdt-if you are Town going to be lynched, you leave your last reads. Your reaction makes me think you are scum.

At dr but later I'll filter dive and do a Town to scum list.
SilverWolf77
Profile Joined January 2017
United States114 Posts
January 10 2017 04:40 GMT
#1075
Reps: Found Kelsier scummy early in the game for saying the 4th person who answered the questionaire was scummy and voting them. The later said Kelsier's read didn't make much sense just based off of that.I think Kelsier was just being humorous here and not scummy but Reps doesn't vote this either so null overall.

Agrees with me on Vivax defense of others he doesn't have a read on being scummy.I want to see if he does any of his own reasoning on any reads instead of sheeping me but the fact that he's reading the situation the same as me is a plus. It doesn't matter that we were wrong. It matters if he's thinking along the lines of a town thought process.

Says he believes Onegu's VT claim and questions him on his scumreads of Vivax and B0ston. OK, this is him trying to figure out Onegu which is good.

Doesn't like Grack not willing to explain his townread on Vivax. Also, doesn't like Grack trying to cause conflict and making the thread hard to read or get reads. Also, doesn't like that he won't explain his townread on Vivax. This is all reasoning I agree with but he said it before me so this isn't sheeping but coming up with his own reasoning. Good.

I don't like his sheeping btdt's case on B0ston however. He take's his vote off of his main scumread Grack to sheep onto btdt onto B0ston who he had previously had no read on. I think btdt's flip will help with B0ston and Reps read. I don't see either one of them as scum with him.

Also, don't like Reps saying if someone comes up with a good argument on Grack, he'll revote. Why wait for someone else to give you a reason to vote before doing so? Very wishy washy here.

Doesn't like btdt's sudden switch to Vivax after casing B0ston-I agree with not liking this so this is good for Reps.

Votes Grack after the claim, cc fiasco. So do a lot of people so meh.

I do like his further elaboration of why he thought Vivax defense of others was scummy. It was well thought out and easy to understand. His further explanation of Grack, B0ston, etc was fine but a little too much on theory. Still, fine though.

His suspicion on Onegu wasn't bad. It was his own original thinking and it made sense. He didn't like Onegu voting B0ston after B0ston voted him and his general lack of presence in the thread and commenting on irrelevant things. This isn't bad.

Leans town on btdt for the roleblock claim but later agrees with my saying it still could be scum and votes btdt. Meh.

Further explains his Onegu scumread which is o.k.

So overall, probably town, does sheep a little bit but overall has a town thought process on reads and does come up with some stuff of his own too.

I really needed to do this because Squishy was one I was having trouble figuring out.



















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