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On January 07 2017 08:36 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 08:31 darthfoley wrote:
@Calix Like do you really expect every player who goes AFK for a period of time to provide a reason why? If so, I can wait for the impending doom for btdt and Onegu lol I don't know what you're referring to here since I explicitly said that I didn't care about AFKing on its own. Who exactly do you want lynched if not Boston or what have you?
Well I think ME has done everything you're accusing B0ston of, but worse. I like reps' questions but I dont remember him having any concrete reads yet, which concerns me.
I'm also waiting for Onegu/Kelsier/btdt to catch up and/post anything. I don't know why people are town reading Kelsier, he's a scum read for me at the moment
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On January 07 2017 09:08 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 15:11 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 10:52 Calix wrote:
I am too tired to bang my head against the wall since it's 2am.
I won't be very active until late afternoon/ evening or so but that doesn't matter. My low-activity play is ten times better than most people's normal play.
Goodnight! Great excuse for OMGUS (omg u suck) later on if you're scum! that last letter doesnt mean suck... It means scum...
Wait actually? My life is a lie
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On January 07 2017 09:36 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 01:57 Calix wrote:On January 07 2017 01:54 Vivax wrote:On January 07 2017 01:52 Calix wrote:On January 07 2017 01:48 Vivax wrote:
So far you and Ika both asked such loaded questions that already imply I did something I did not. Obviously you're not going to get a nice answer to "Do you always beat your wife" type of questions. Your point? If you ask shitty questions you get shitty answers If you think playing 20 questions sucks then I'll let you do something else. I'd rather take a nap or something than have a lengthy discussion tbh lol. Calix why are you backing down? I find it odd your not being aggressive on this front and instead dropping this
Also a good point
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On January 07 2017 09:39 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 09:38 darthfoley wrote:On January 07 2017 09:36 ika42 wrote:On January 07 2017 01:57 Calix wrote:On January 07 2017 01:54 Vivax wrote:On January 07 2017 01:52 Calix wrote:On January 07 2017 01:48 Vivax wrote:
So far you and Ika both asked such loaded questions that already imply I did something I did not. Obviously you're not going to get a nice answer to "Do you always beat your wife" type of questions. Your point? If you ask shitty questions you get shitty answers If you think playing 20 questions sucks then I'll let you do something else. I'd rather take a nap or something than have a lengthy discussion tbh lol. Calix why are you backing down? I find it odd your not being aggressive on this front and instead dropping this Also a good point Do yuo have anything that you want me to look into while i catch up? Am i still a null-scum read or such? have you posted a read list on players? if so could you make the post number and ill reference it as i catch up?
Town leans: SW, Calix, you
Scum leans: ME, Kelsier
I'm waiting for certain people to come into the thread and interact before I feel more confident in what I think
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On January 07 2017 08:53 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 08:48 darthfoley wrote:On January 07 2017 08:36 Calix wrote:On January 07 2017 08:31 darthfoley wrote:
@Calix Like do you really expect every player who goes AFK for a period of time to provide a reason why? If so, I can wait for the impending doom for btdt and Onegu lol I don't know what you're referring to here since I explicitly said that I didn't care about AFKing on its own. Who exactly do you want lynched if not Boston or what have you? Well I think ME has done everything you're accusing B0ston of, but worse. I like reps' questions but I dont remember him having any concrete reads yet, which concerns me. I'm also waiting for Onegu/Kelsier/btdt to catch up and/post anything. I don't know why people are town reading Kelsier, he's a scum read for me at the moment Yeah and I have a scum-lean on ME although I don't get how he can do worse when he just exists. Actually read my posts so I don't have to repeat myself. I'm tired. Oh? For what reason?
Regarding Kelsier
I find the beginning of this post particularly awkward
On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:
so how you reading ika atm? Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still. yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town.i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow. I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh. Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment.
It's a little too much explanation for a town read. Maybe this is unfair of me but he mentions how he should be on tomorrow (today) but I don't think he's posted once today. Real life can be a complicated though so idk.
I also feel like he jumped on Vivax's questioning of me in scum fashion.
On January 06 2017 20:14 KelsierSC wrote:Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 17:30 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 16:25 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 16:14 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 15:48 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 15:42 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 15:39 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 15:30 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 15:21 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 14:13 Vivax wrote:
Is there anyone here who actually didn't play mafia before, or just very very little?
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This read looks forced. I mean, you will say it isn't a read I know, but we both know it kind of is. And to me it just looks like you were looking for someone to make look guilty easily to fulfill Calix demand.
Fend yourself, Foley. Forced how? Of course it's a read, but it's a D1 read 3 hours in. Forgive me if i'm not wow'd by someone asking nebulous or irrelevant questions about self meta that could easily be bullshitted. His play since is more trolly than I prefer, except regarding the point on Calix's scum play which is actually useful. Why not 1gu then? I've never seen Onegu play a non trolly game. It's within his meta either way, especially D1 lol But you have seen ikas meta yes? No, I don't know the guy Idk why you are eager to suspect someone for not being super serious at the beginning of the game, when clearly you don't even know how he usually plays. So that's why I'm saying your read is forced, it looked like you found something worth smearing for the sake of itself cause calix asked you to dig something up. She asked me if I had picked up on anything else and that was the only thing I had found worth mentioning. I think it's hardly accurate to say that I'm trying to smear the dude. It's refreshing to assess someone's motives without knowing meta. You're less likely to talk yourself out of gut reads. No idea why you find that problematic. You're acting like I'm on a crusade against the guy lol. It's always easy to call out someone for being trolly or not contributive. And I don't see how that applies to him in particular. Even for yourself it's such a weak argument that you call it not a real read. So I find it unusual that asked whether you saw something worth picking up, you do it over something that you didn't feel strongly about, and for something that is imo NAI (not alignment indicative for who doesn't know) at this stage. So one possibility is you were simply being casual as town and throwing that out there even though for your play it will have little impact as you don't want to pursue that further. Then again that would mean that your answer to Calix "did you see something worthwhile" still wasn't answered and that you didn't find an avenue for finding scum there. Or you are scum with the pressure that comes to post something looking useful well knowing that as long as you post something that you don't have to commit to, you're fine. And that post also falls in this category, too. Now from this ambiguity why do I think that it makes you more likely mafia? Scum that doesn't have a trolly town meta by default will be under pressure to look useful. Your filter apart from one or two posts seems like you are trying to look useful. That post isn't something I believe you think to be useful. Otherwise tell me why you believe it's useful. Achieves something for yourself besides satisfying a request that you would grant only to enhance your standing with the town, which is mafia play. I like this approach from vivax. Got Darth in the boat and he's still flopping around. [b]Darth i'm not looking for a list post from you at this point but do you have something more significant to contribute.[/]
He tells me what he's not looking for which is a weird thing to say, while also trying to pressure me by saying in need to contribute something "more significant." Not only is that nebulous and vague, it's also really obvious. Everyone has to contribute meaningful things, and I think it's odd that he would accuse me of not doing that; I have been contributing more than most here. It almost seems like it should be a criticism leveled at someone like B0ston.
The only other thing in his filter is that he doesn't like my "attitude" because of one post where I sounded defensive. That's like, your opinion man. Defensiveness is NAI imo so it's not a great point regardless. He also doesn't actually commit to any sort of read of me which is scummy considering the amount of attention he gives me
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On January 07 2017 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 12:47 Onegu wrote:
She is town because she was the first to call Boston out. And then the back and forth with Vivax doesnt come from scum. Never Never Never. More so in a newbie game as someone who never played with most of the people in this game. Let me just point out that this does not satisfy the requirements set forth, that you have now failed to meet the burden of proof, and you are dodging the question entirely.
Grack can you focus on something else right now. I'm not particularly interested in another two pages of shit flinging, regardless of whose fault it is lol. Did you read my semi-case on KSC?
I don't agree with the people saying stubborn and/or sarcastic Grack is scum!Grack. For everyone who said earlier that mafia try to blend in, you're apparently scum reading Grack for the opposite now.
Rather interesting how one thing Grack said got blown out of proportion and now there's like 4 people pressuring him. It seems really opportunistic to me, particularly after Ika or SW started the pressure
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On January 07 2017 09:58 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 08:53 Calix wrote:On January 07 2017 08:48 darthfoley wrote:On January 07 2017 08:36 Calix wrote:On January 07 2017 08:31 darthfoley wrote:
@Calix Like do you really expect every player who goes AFK for a period of time to provide a reason why? If so, I can wait for the impending doom for btdt and Onegu lol I don't know what you're referring to here since I explicitly said that I didn't care about AFKing on its own. Who exactly do you want lynched if not Boston or what have you? Well I think ME has done everything you're accusing B0ston of, but worse. I like reps' questions but I dont remember him having any concrete reads yet, which concerns me. I'm also waiting for Onegu/Kelsier/btdt to catch up and/post anything. I don't know why people are town reading Kelsier, he's a scum read for me at the moment Yeah and I have a scum-lean on ME although I don't get how he can do worse when he just exists. Actually read my posts so I don't have to repeat myself. I'm tired. Oh? For what reason? Regarding Kelsier I find the beginning of this post particularly awkward Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 10:59 KelsierSC wrote:On January 06 2017 10:57 SilverWolf77 wrote:On January 06 2017 10:55 KelsierSC wrote:
so how you reading ika atm? Slight townread based on posting the questions to get us talking and his activity and interest in the game so far. But he may be just copying his town meta so I'm keeping an eye on him still. yeh...like if i was you that is what I would be thinking if I was town.i have to go into work tomorrow unfortunately but only for like 1hr so should be on tomorrow. I know it seems like i've just been jerking off in the thread, and whilst this is true I think Calix, silver and ika are probably town and everyone else is kind of blegh. Grak is mafia though, im pretty happy with my vote at the moment. It's a little too much explanation for a town read. Maybe this is unfair of me but he mentions how he should be on tomorrow (today) but I don't think he's posted once today. Real life can be a complicated though so idk. I also feel like he jumped on Vivax's questioning of me in scum fashion. Show nested quote +On January 06 2017 20:14 KelsierSC wrote:On January 06 2017 17:30 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 16:25 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 16:14 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 15:48 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 15:42 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 15:39 darthfoley wrote:On January 06 2017 15:30 Vivax wrote:On January 06 2017 15:21 darthfoley wrote:
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Forced how? Of course it's a read, but it's a D1 read 3 hours in. Forgive me if i'm not wow'd by someone asking nebulous or irrelevant questions about self meta that could easily be bullshitted.
His play since is more trolly than I prefer, except regarding the point on Calix's scum play which is actually useful.
Why not 1gu then? I've never seen Onegu play a non trolly game. It's within his meta either way, especially D1 lol But you have seen ikas meta yes? No, I don't know the guy Idk why you are eager to suspect someone for not being super serious at the beginning of the game, when clearly you don't even know how he usually plays. So that's why I'm saying your read is forced, it looked like you found something worth smearing for the sake of itself cause calix asked you to dig something up. She asked me if I had picked up on anything else and that was the only thing I had found worth mentioning. I think it's hardly accurate to say that I'm trying to smear the dude. It's refreshing to assess someone's motives without knowing meta. You're less likely to talk yourself out of gut reads. No idea why you find that problematic. You're acting like I'm on a crusade against the guy lol. It's always easy to call out someone for being trolly or not contributive. And I don't see how that applies to him in particular. Even for yourself it's such a weak argument that you call it not a real read. So I find it unusual that asked whether you saw something worth picking up, you do it over something that you didn't feel strongly about, and for something that is imo NAI (not alignment indicative for who doesn't know) at this stage. So one possibility is you were simply being casual as town and throwing that out there even though for your play it will have little impact as you don't want to pursue that further. Then again that would mean that your answer to Calix "did you see something worthwhile" still wasn't answered and that you didn't find an avenue for finding scum there. Or you are scum with the pressure that comes to post something looking useful well knowing that as long as you post something that you don't have to commit to, you're fine. And that post also falls in this category, too. Now from this ambiguity why do I think that it makes you more likely mafia? Scum that doesn't have a trolly town meta by default will be under pressure to look useful. Your filter apart from one or two posts seems like you are trying to look useful. That post isn't something I believe you think to be useful. Otherwise tell me why you believe it's useful. Achieves something for yourself besides satisfying a request that you would grant only to enhance your standing with the town, which is mafia play. I like this approach from vivax. Got Darth in the boat and he's still flopping around. [b]Darth i'm not looking for a list post from you at this point but do you have something more significant to contribute.[/] He tells me what he's not looking for which is a weird thing to say, while also trying to pressure me by saying in need to contribute something "more significant." Not only is that nebulous and vague, it's also really obvious. Everyone has to contribute meaningful things, and I think it's odd that he would accuse me of not doing that; I have been contributing more than most here. It almost seems like it should be a criticism leveled at someone like B0ston. The only other thing in his filter is that he doesn't like my "attitude" because of one post where I sounded defensive. That's like, your opinion man. Defensiveness is NAI imo so it's not a great point regardless. He also doesn't actually commit to any sort of read of me which is scummy considering the amount of attention he gives me
Those who are town reading KSC, why?
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Earth to anyone who hasn't posted in forever...
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Are we really talking about teams pre flip D1?
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deadline in 4 hours peoples
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On January 07 2017 20:59 cakepie wrote:Vote Count Grackaroni (3) : KelsierSC, Kmatt, reps)squishy B0stonSC (2) : Calix, Onegu KelsierSC (2) : ika42, darthfoley Vivax (1) : SilverWolf77 Not voting (5) : B0stonSC, beentheredonethat, Grackaroni, MichaelEhrmantraut, Vivax Currently, Grackaroni is set to be lynched!
The day phase will end at Sunday, Jan 08 12:00am GMT (GMT+00:00), about 12 hours from this post.
remain as you are reading this.
Remember, voting is mandatory! Place your votes in the voting thread.
If you see any vote out of place, let us know!
Why does the deadline say it'll end at 7pm EST but the count down is T-4 hours? Am I dumb?
In ~4 hours it'll be 4pm EST?
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Where the hell did Vivax go? He disappeared as soon as he was pressured
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On January 08 2017 02:56 SilverWolf77 wrote:
I'm dismayed that so few people are actually here and playing or that people are here and then they leave for extended periods of time. It makes the game very difficult to play. Can everyone else who hasn't, give their top three scumreads or who they would be o.k. lynching today?
KSC/Vivax/ME are probably my top three scum
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Also think I'm okay with sheeping you and Calix on boston if it comes to that
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On January 08 2017 03:22 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 03:16 Vivax wrote:
Sorry, back with a hungover, had my postponed bday party yesterday.
I don't think we should lynch Grack today, but I'm going to take a look at the arguments against him. It's because I annoyed a bunch of people.
Basically. Who do you want to lynch grack?
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On January 08 2017 03:11 Calix wrote:
It looks like all the active people have similar opinions so consolidation shouldn't be a problem.
That makes me paranoid, not satisfied
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On January 08 2017 03:30 beentheredonethat wrote:Hello everyone. I'm here. I have not read the game as I even didn't /confirm, however hosts weren't eager to wait for me. As I was pissed over things going on over in Host Mafia, I pretty much didn't visit TL over the course of the last 24 hours or so, only went online from mobile for a bit. So. This is my very first time in playing two games at once so I want to apologize in advance if I suck. I will catch up on the game in the next few hours, I'm at home in front of my desktop and I'm going to do my best to contribute. 
How does this happen two games in a row lol
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On January 08 2017 03:53 Vivax wrote:ME is someone of those who might as well not have signed up as clearly he doesn't like playing this game. Will have to be policied at some point cause he's not a source of information. Boston has this thing bugging me: Show nested quote +On January 07 2017 07:32 B0stonSC wrote:
Okay, so after catching up, I have a few things to respond on.
First, as to why I am not more active, is that I have not a whole lot of time to play mafia during the week, so what I am doing is catching up, responding to everything I feel needs a response, giving my reads, then getting back off. You may flame me for this, but unless it's the weekend this will be how I play. I do have a life you know, but mafia is a lot of fun (which is why I wanted to play it).
As to why I voted Onegu (asked three times, by my count), he has made a claim (with the first post of the game) and then posted a non informative post. That's all he has done. I wanted to see what happens if he gets a bit of pressure on him, but after this amount of time I feel that he is just inactive.
On to my reads, Kmatt feels very much a scummy player to me becuase he is posting quite a bit now, but it doesn't feel like he is accomplishing anything. DarthFoley seems waaaay too defensive, so that seems odd, but I'll keep looking at him so I can get a more solid read. Vivax and MichaelEhrmantraut seem a bit off. Nothing suspicious, but just a bit not quite correct to me. This is more of a gut read than anything else, so I'll be doing a reread (probably today) for just them to see what's up. Now it's weekend and he should be playing according to himself.
Kelsier did the same thing and no one seems to care besides me
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On January 08 2017 04:10 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 04:06 Calix wrote:On January 08 2017 04:02 Vivax wrote:
Been tempted a few times to put the thought out there that we might be dealing with an active, disruptive mafia (Calix), but then that thought shouldn't be pursued too early, especially by me or I end up tinfoiling the entire game.
So it's a thought on hold maybe I'll find something positive to take from her posts at some point. For now she doesn't look sheepable to me.
I think for today I would be content with a PL on ME, otherwise I still have my eyes on Kelsier and DF mostly as I might have been onto something at the start of the day, but today I feel like shit and am lazy to go dig for something and make a case, to be completely honest. What makes you think that? It would be good if you could expand on your reads at some point. Kelsier for not seeming to care at this point and his negative comment about the game at the beginning. It's the sort of thing I saw Palmar going after people for and successfully catching mafia with it. So I think it could be a nice heuristic for catching mafia. Foley for what I posted about him. Doesn't need expanding as it's in my filter.As for you, I said I don't want to pursue that thought for now as you are still one of the most active players if not the most active player.
Well I'm glad you haven't bothered to reread my filter or rethink your opinion of me after latching into my first gut read. Real town motivation there.
I think your re entry to the thread after getting pressure then deflecting/disappearing is scummy. Except you agree with me on KSC. Hmmm
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