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SW, if you seem to think the team is Grack/Vivax/Boston, do you see any connections, other than that Grack wants us to think Vivax is town?
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Alright every time I go back to start reading 4 pages get tacked on the end (I'm on post 621 as of this reply) so I'm just going to take a moment to answer DF from earlier.
My shtick with Grace's nonsense wasn't that he had a feel/gut read on Vivax being town (as you said I had posted the same earlier), but that he claimed to have built this substantial case, hid it from the thread, had that stupid argument, postee his "evidence" of the read and only at the very end backtracked to say it was and gut read as null along. That's what got my goat, running circles only to conclude he made 90% of this case up.
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Let the record show that I totally called something silly happening. There's one issue I have with the doc counterclaim: Mafia is told the setup, and only 2 of 4 PRs are in play.
Let's say I'm scum. If I need a last resort to swing votes off of me, I would always claim a PR that isn't in play (so if this game has Doc/Vig I could claim Cop). By claiming a role that mafia is fully aware is in play, they leave that loophole open for a counterclaim. Between a 3 man mafia team and coaches, I just can't see such and not obvious detail be overlooked. Either scum!Grack and his team are morons or BTDT just verified the guy's claim.
Or am I missing some key detail here?
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On January 08 2017 07:23 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 07:18 Kmatt wrote:
Let the record show that I totally called something silly happening. There's one issue I have with the doc counterclaim: Mafia is told the setup, and only 2 of 4 PRs are in play.
Let's say I'm scum. If I need a last resort to swing votes off of me, I would always claim a PR that isn't in play (so if this game has Doc/Vig I could claim Cop). By claiming a role that mafia is fully aware is in play, they leave that loophole open for a counterclaim. Between a 3 man mafia team and coaches, I just can't see such and not obvious detail be overlooked. Either scum!Grack and his team are morons or BTDT just verified the guy's claim.
Or am I missing some key detail here? A good point. However I think you're overlooking that scum might want to draw out a PR before they die, especially a Protective (means nothing stops scum from killing who they want, after all). People were starting to be wary of a Boston lynch and votes were starting to go on Grack at the time.
Damn it that's also a possibilty. Curse you game theory.
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Yeah BTDT is getting the axe.
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Yeah we have an active PR in either a cop or vet, if you have something to say might as well get it out there.
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On January 08 2017 12:26 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 09:42 Kmatt wrote:
Yeah we have an active PR in either a cop or vet, if you have something to say might as well get it out there. its cop or vig....
Right Vig not Vet. Easy for me to mix up. When I think of "Veteran" I think of Gran Torino. Get off my lawn you dirty mafia and all that.
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On January 08 2017 13:02 ika42 wrote:
also kmatt is now town
What makes you say that?
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On January 08 2017 13:20 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 13:16 Kmatt wrote:On January 08 2017 13:02 ika42 wrote:
also kmatt is now town What makes you say that? you town slipped that it was vet or cop scums knwo setup
That was just my brain autocorrecting. You can see I was referring to both possible blues as "active" roles. I even explain it <10 posts up.
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On January 08 2017 12:40 Kmatt wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2017 12:26 ika42 wrote:On January 08 2017 09:42 Kmatt wrote:
Yeah we have an active PR in either a cop or vet, if you have something to say might as well get it out there. its cop or vig.... Right Vig not Vet. Easy for me to mix up. When I think of "Veteran" I think of Gran Torino. Get off my lawn you dirty mafia and all that.
Okay more like 20 close enough.
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So if we're all in agreement that BTDT is long overdue for being mounted on a fence post, who do you think among potential scum is up for the following vote? B0ston and ME are the obvious choices but like Calix said I can't help but think at least one of the mafia is actively mucking the thread up. Granted this guy has his work cut out for him at the moment.
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On January 09 2017 04:54 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 03:27 Calix wrote:On January 09 2017 03:20 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:On January 09 2017 02:35 Calix wrote:On January 09 2017 02:23 MichaelEhrmantraut wrote:I have something to add about B0ston. I don't know if this has been missed. On January 08 2017 07:12 B0stonSC wrote:
Well that seems rather sorted. is Instalynch a thing on this site? If you are town why would you want an instalynch when there's a CC ? I think that holds for a lot of other people too. And Grack was one of the most vocal people here. On January 08 2017 21:00 Calix wrote:
Although ME's large post was good tone-wise, his actions are questionable especially with his vote and wanting to "hold it until EOD" (before voting for Grack) which makes no sense for town to do (it literally makes you harder to read - a non-town trait). There is no reason to do that just for a vote at the end of a large wagon on a counterclaimed person and the fact that he leaves it until the very end of the day means that he doesn't have to explain why he preferred Grack > BTDT or give us much information re: votes/ people he wants dead.
I wanted to hold it until EOD because i was reading through the posts, and to me Grack didn't look scum. I couldn't come up with anything conclusive about anyone else. And since you can't abstain here, I just voted. As such my one vote wasn't going to make any difference except give away information at that point. Wait wtf. Why are you concerned about "giving away information" with your votes if you're town?! That's mafia rationale. I don't agree with your assessment. I would've readily abstained if I was given the choice. You focus on the part that suits your argument the most. You literally say in your post "my vote wasn't going to make a difference except give away information". I'm asking you what motivation town has to hide information regarding votes because I do not see one at all. It is irrelevant whether you technically abstained by not voting or not because that still denies town information which you said was your motivation for abstaining. It doesn't make sense for VT or blue because scum cannot discern roles from how people vote so that leaves one possibility which is mafia. I had a misconception about the night phase, I thought we are not allowed to post during the night phase ( in an RL game you can't talk during night ...), so I thought that applied to this forum too. So, I thought why would you give away information just before night, because the topic would be locked up, until the next day phase.
Due to pressing ceremonial concerns I will refrain from passing judgement on that account.
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Well now that we have the option
##vote beentheredonethat
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On January 09 2017 09:31 reps)squishy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 09:26 darthfoley wrote:On January 09 2017 09:22 reps)squishy wrote:On January 09 2017 09:19 beentheredonethat wrote:
I got roleblocked. But noone is going to believe that anyways^^ so good night I am now leaning btdt as town. @Onegu: do you still stand by this statement? On January 08 2017 14:07 Onegu wrote:
Just FYI 100% we lynch btdt tomorrow. Even though I give btdt a 30% chance of being scum. He has to be lynched. It is a terrible play as scum as scum could just shoot him. The only way it becomes a ok play is if they think the lynch would go from grack to a actual scum player. Even then its not great as btdt wasnt being looked at. I think it comes from town more often than not who thinks he will save the actual doctor from having to CC and then lynch scum and eat a bullet. Wanting to make the hero play. But this play needs to be punished. Plus a 30% chance to hit scum is fine. you're gonna have to explain that one to me. Why? I cannot see him making that up if he were scum...
He's full of shit. I'm the vig and I blew my load on Vivax. Thought I was being clever but apparently all his shpeal about not surviving the night was true for more than one reason.
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On January 09 2017 09:43 ika42 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 09:36 Kmatt wrote:On January 09 2017 09:31 reps)squishy wrote:On January 09 2017 09:26 darthfoley wrote:On January 09 2017 09:22 reps)squishy wrote:On January 09 2017 09:19 beentheredonethat wrote:
I got roleblocked. But noone is going to believe that anyways^^ so good night I am now leaning btdt as town. @Onegu: do you still stand by this statement? On January 08 2017 14:07 Onegu wrote:
Just FYI 100% we lynch btdt tomorrow. Even though I give btdt a 30% chance of being scum. He has to be lynched. It is a terrible play as scum as scum could just shoot him. The only way it becomes a ok play is if they think the lynch would go from grack to a actual scum player. Even then its not great as btdt wasnt being looked at. I think it comes from town more often than not who thinks he will save the actual doctor from having to CC and then lynch scum and eat a bullet. Wanting to make the hero play. But this play needs to be punished. Plus a 30% chance to hit scum is fine. you're gonna have to explain that one to me. Why? I cannot see him making that up if he were scum... He's full of shit. I'm the vig and I blew my load on Vivax. Thought I was being clever but apparently all his shpeal about not surviving the night was true for more than one reason. How come you didnt shoot beentjeredonethat?
We were all gonna vote him anyway. Seems like a waste of a shot.
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It was a double tap. Even with a town!Viv I thought that it would be unlikely that they go for him.
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It was a gamble. If I hit scum!Vivax we pull a double kill. If I whiff and kill a town alongside mafia we're doubly in the hole. With the double whiff from both parties we basically broke even since now the game is as if I was a VT. The alternative is, as you said, take the easy shot and play the game out normal. I went for the jackpot and came back empty handed.
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On January 09 2017 10:38 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2017 10:29 Kmatt wrote:
It was a gamble. If I hit scum!Vivax we pull a double kill. If I whiff and kill a town alongside mafia we're doubly in the hole. With the double whiff from both parties we basically broke even since now the game is as if I was a VT. The alternative is, as you said, take the easy shot and play the game out normal. I went for the jackpot and came back empty handed. Lesson learned, let's hope
But muh sick plays.
Real talk though if I ever get to be a vig again you had better believe I'm going to go for a flashy kill out of nowhere. You can't give me that kind of power and not expect MOM GET THE CAMERA
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I'm going through filters now and it just occurred to me that KSC made his last post on the 6th. If he doesn't make three posts within this cycle he gets modkilled IIRC. I can't say how long the line for Subway is but you need to pick your topping and get the hell in this thread.
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