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On January 12 2017 02:58 reps)squishy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 02:44 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 02:42 reps)squishy wrote:On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:Scum list: Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much. His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway. I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow. + Show Spoiler + While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.
Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.
I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though still reading filters atm any questions i'm around I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it. Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read. Ok then what are your reads that you believe atm? With any certainty 1gu because of my prior points.
That's your only read? lol
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On January 12 2017 03:03 reps)squishy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 02:47 Calix wrote:On January 12 2017 02:42 reps)squishy wrote:On January 12 2017 01:45 Damdred wrote:Scum list: Rep is probably the scum here, early he attacks grack for strange reasonings really. Uses a bit of fear mongering to (can't let a vet scum run lose etc) justify his voting at that point. Questions people why they are voting for his own scum read at one point. His read on kel is extremely flimsy at best and seems to be keeping his options open depending on which way the thread sentiment is riding. In fact most of his filter feels that way where hes able to go with sentiment at a drop of a hat without to much. His scum reads are also on the easy side to an extent, not much else in the way of reads in his filter. The onegu post is interesting but really its picking on onegu for something (activity) which he doesn't think is alignment indicative apparently but makes it so towards other people. Just sort of weird he would probably make the case onegu posts were not substantive but thats sort of meh since it seems the lynch was decided for 72 hours as I read in depth anyway. I think ME could be scum because of some of the things I said earlier (look in my filter at taht portion) but I have a really really bad reason for thinking they could be town and honestly it probably just makes them town for a shitty reason. But not really worth talking about, not worth lynch tommorow. + Show Spoiler + While people have pointed at me for thinking btdt was a bad lynch I do stand beside that idea that he was a bad lynch, but I do understand why he had to be policy lynched for his bad play. It doesn't mean that he was a sure fire scum lynch and I think Onegu made note of that on a reread. Its probably the right play in any case after i read but just stinks.
Just as an aside I think its probably the stupidest thing in the world to cc doc as scum d1 when there is a possible vigilante in play. You would be smoked instantly an da 1-1 trade is always a loss for scum and a win for town in that situation. Sure they get the protection out of the game but more than likely they never really get a protect off anyway.
I just can never see scum making that trade, a red check d2 or later or a cc later than that yeah. I can see that sac especially if a vig is already off the table but nope never beyond that. Just my thoughts though still reading filters atm any questions i'm around I felt like Grack did not want to progress the thread, to me that is a tall tale sign of being scummy. I ask people why they have scum leads on people when they do not explain why they have those leads; "I think reps) is scummy) does not cut it. You are right that my read on Kel was flimsy, but I never tried pushing it. Yes, I pointed out 1gu's activity which I don't think is AI. That is correct. If someone is going to have low activity, I would like them to have quality>quantity. But, I feel onegu has poor activity and quality of posts. Yes, there was a policy lynch going on, does not mean we need to waste 72hrs and not find another read. Would it not make sense to try pushing your KSC read to see if you could find something more substantial? You keep repeating the quality > quantity mantra and it's starting to ping me since you say that more than you actually do that. If you think that doing nothing (especially during D2) is suspicious then did anyone else strike you as trying to 'skate by' or what? My KSC read was not good. I don't like it, there is a back up and using KSC's trolly idaf so much that I don't vote against the back up is a stretch. With the quality vs quantity, I think I am personally. I try not to make pointless one liners if I am not going to have too much time. I made a case against 1gu and he ignored it. His first post D2 is "is btdt dead yet?" Anyway first day of classes, I have to find my building catch up with everyone soon.
What do you mean with 'backup'?
I wasn't asking you to reiterate. I was saying that you've already told me this half a dozen times before.
Do you think outright ignoring a case is more likely to come from town or scum? You state things but do not conclude much.
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Jesus Christ, what the fuck did I walk back into?
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On January 12 2017 08:01 Damdred wrote:
I have no clue dude just tilted for no reason.
Calix what do you think of squishy scum reads currently?
I'm more concerned about the fact that he might have just forced us into D3 LYLO with hostconfirm bullshit :/
Don't really have an opinion.
Onegu's has been explained to death, nothing new to add here.
Point about ME sheeping BTDT and DF buddying me might be good but I'd need to see some evidence before making a judgment.
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On January 12 2017 08:04 Damdred wrote:
Well lets try to play a bit really,
Darth what do you think the scum team is curently?
Asking about scum teams when we do not have a single scum flip is retarded.
In fact, I think most of your questions suck and don't actually do anything to help push things forward.
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On January 12 2017 08:12 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 08:07 Calix wrote:On January 12 2017 08:04 Damdred wrote:
Well lets try to play a bit really,
Darth what do you think the scum team is curently? Asking about scum teams when we do not have a single scum flip is retarded. In fact, I think most of your questions suck and don't actually do anything to help push things forward. Yeah well i'm trying to get something started and get up to date reads from people instad of talking about the crap thats happening so yeah. You can think my questions suck but oh well.
I don't get how you can get any relevant information from the questions you've asked since they're very...vague, I guess? And don't seem to be going anywhere.
But I'll bite. What have you gained from what you've asked so far?
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On January 12 2017 08:16 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 08:11 Onegu wrote:On January 12 2017 08:09 darthfoley wrote:On January 12 2017 08:04 Damdred wrote:
Well lets try to play a bit really,
Darth what do you think the scum team is curently? I generally don't like to think of teams/association until red flips because you can tunnel yourself unnecessarily. Right now I'm most confident that B0ston is mafia, followed by Onegu. I'm not sure what I think of you tbh. I'll have to devote time to your filter. I also want to see what B0ston makes of other people Right because I bussed my partner early day 1 and never got off of him and am planning to vote him tomorrow which I have already stated... I just said I wasn't claiming you two were on a team. Rereading your filter makes me think you're not scum together. Anyone know how onegu plays scum? Does he buss a lot/early in/etc.?
Nobody has time for that shit. Just read the Onegu/ Boston interactions if you want to find out if they're SvS.
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On January 12 2017 08:22 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 08:15 Calix wrote:On January 12 2017 08:12 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 08:07 Calix wrote:On January 12 2017 08:04 Damdred wrote:
Well lets try to play a bit really,
Darth what do you think the scum team is curently? Asking about scum teams when we do not have a single scum flip is retarded. In fact, I think most of your questions suck and don't actually do anything to help push things forward. Yeah well i'm trying to get something started and get up to date reads from people instad of talking about the crap thats happening so yeah. You can think my questions suck but oh well. I don't get how you can get any relevant information from the questions you've asked since they're very...vague, I guess? And don't seem to be going anywhere. But I'll bite. What have you gained from what you've asked so far? Actually got squishy to name scum reads instead of just harping on about onegu so far, DF especially doesn't make sense from his filter as he has nothing in it that would indicate a scum read currently. Nothing to much about ME either, and his attitude towards both in the thread really doesn't scream I think you are scum. Darth replies looked ok and really reasonable coming from town. especially his williness to not force reads, he hasn't had a lot of experience s scum and lots of inexperienced scum try to shoehorn reads to make it seem like they are doing a lot. So i've gotten some decent stuff so far to add to my thoughts.
Your DF line is your most convincing argument here since that did look like a legit change in read from you.
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On January 12 2017 08:29 Damdred wrote:
Which the shoe horning reads to make it look like you are doing things kmatt is a good fit for that. His reads post that has a lot of nulls with easy town reads for no reason.
I could see a squishy, kmat and boston "team" as in each are interesting.
Like if you look at Kmat somewhat scum read on boston (associative I know) it seems a bit TMI (most of his reads feel this way with the ease though). It just is interesting right now.
He has claimed Vig, lol. Are you counterclaiming him?
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Also not impressed that your scum-team are all the new, inactive people who are not going to have many associative tells since they hardly ever post unless prompted to.
Which is another reason why trying to find the entire scum team this game is a terrible idea. If you're wrong on even one then the scummers can just get a ML on them.
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On January 12 2017 08:37 Damdred wrote:
I just don't believe it tbh, I think its a really bad shot if he is a vig and there is no real change in his filter that goes from town reading or leaning vivax to wanting to kill him.
It is weird, yes, but that's overruled by the whole "not counterclaimed" thing. But whatever.
On January 12 2017 08:39 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 08:32 Calix wrote:
Also not impressed that your scum-team are all the new, inactive people who are not going to have many associative tells since they hardly ever post unless prompted to.
Which is another reason why trying to find the entire scum team this game is a terrible idea. If you're wrong on even one then the scummers can just get a ML on them. I don't know why you think i'm sold on that 100% i've clearly shown multiple times i never settle for a scum read and let the people proove themselves to me one way or another.
I didn't say that you were 100% convinced on that.
I'm more of a "find one scum at a time until one flips" person.
Dumb question, but is it common for people on this site to try and draw associations in LYLO/ MYLO with no scum flips? I actually don't know what optimal strategy for these kind of things are, lol.
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I'm not seeing anything that suggests buddying, just insinuations and jokey comments that don't explicitly state "I town-read Calix"
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On January 12 2017 08:46 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 08:43 Calix wrote:On January 12 2017 08:37 Damdred wrote:
I just don't believe it tbh, I think its a really bad shot if he is a vig and there is no real change in his filter that goes from town reading or leaning vivax to wanting to kill him. It is weird, yes, but that's overruled by the whole "not counterclaimed" thing. But whatever. On January 12 2017 08:39 Damdred wrote:On January 12 2017 08:32 Calix wrote:
Also not impressed that your scum-team are all the new, inactive people who are not going to have many associative tells since they hardly ever post unless prompted to.
Which is another reason why trying to find the entire scum team this game is a terrible idea. If you're wrong on even one then the scummers can just get a ML on them. I don't know why you think i'm sold on that 100% i've clearly shown multiple times i never settle for a scum read and let the people proove themselves to me one way or another. I didn't say that you were 100% convinced on that. I'm more of a "find one scum at a time until one flips" person. Dumb question, but is it common for people on this site to try and draw associations in LYLO/ MYLO with no scum flips? I actually don't know what optimal strategy for these kind of things are, lol. Yeah but if we have a vig with a shot ready better for them nto to claim it and shoot, and the vet to only claim if they have to and try to draw a shot. Like I just think the whole claim is bad even if its not counterclaimed, he even kinda alludes to it. And if he did stack with mafia vivax had to be onto at least one of the scum team I think. As for that in lylo mylo its jsut better to start the game fresh tbh (maybe we will be wrong and me will turn out scum who turned suicidal maybe? kinda? no?  ). I generally don't like associative reads unless they do have common connectors really.
Yes shooting someone who he didn't claim a scum-read on is terrible play but unless you're saying that he's scum fake-claiming then I don't see the point of discussing it.
Am assuming the worst. I'm not used to dealing with MYLO/ LYLO at all and I dislike the prospect of being thrust into one on Day fucking Three.
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On January 12 2017 08:48 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 08:47 Calix wrote:
I'm not seeing anything that suggests buddying, just insinuations and jokey comments that don't explicitly state "I town-read Calix" well at least we agreed on something this thread so far.
Heh.
Well I don't have a solid read on you and I'm not even sure if you're properly caught up given gems like "wonder what ika thinks of SW" or "the uncc'd vig is mafia" 
But for real, I get a bad feeling about you. Your tone just feels flat. I'd have to check the games we played in but I am pretty sure that you were more confident and sure of yourself than you are here. I'm not even sure if I'm onto something or if I'm reading too much into it because you've been here like a day and you're a pretty good player so you wouldn't have to do much to avoid being lynched if you were mafia.
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On January 12 2017 08:59 Damdred wrote:
idk Boston is a good shot to, his reasoning aroudn the grack lynch was really weird. He was town reading Grack but never really stopped to consider that it was btdt fake claiming and just voted his town read. Really weird.
Thanks for reminding me, I was gonna ask what your thoughts on Boston are as I don't recall you filtering him.
His filter's dreadful and the tone of his posts read like he feels hunted and the main reason I was doubting myself was because BTDT made that horrendous case against him. But since BTDT was town and Boston has not done anything to redeem himself then he is likely mafia.
I would have to reread though to see if there's any town motivation for the things he's done.
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On January 12 2017 09:06 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2017 10:08 SilverWolf77 wrote:
What do people say to Calix, darthfoley, Onegu scumteam?
If you mean this. I am not sure tbh, why leave the vig alive in what is 100% mylo at this point?
This is a good point.
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On January 12 2017 09:07 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 09:05 Calix wrote:On January 12 2017 08:59 Damdred wrote:
idk Boston is a good shot to, his reasoning aroudn the grack lynch was really weird. He was town reading Grack but never really stopped to consider that it was btdt fake claiming and just voted his town read. Really weird. Thanks for reminding me, I was gonna ask what your thoughts on Boston are as I don't recall you filtering him. His filter's dreadful and the tone of his posts read like he feels hunted and the main reason I was doubting myself was because BTDT made that horrendous case against him. But since BTDT was town and Boston has not done anything to redeem himself then he is likely mafia. I would have to reread though to see if there's any town motivation for the things he's done. I don't see a lot of town motivation really especially for his votes, he clearly states town read but never questions the other person who claimed. Seems like it was a run away train for grack lynch and he just hopped on for easy lynch without calling himself out at that point since btdt was next up anyway.
I agree that he has been following thread consensus with his reads. I recall that he scum-read ME so seeing how he reacts to ME flipping town will be informative, I think.
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On January 12 2017 09:08 reps)squishy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 12 2017 08:47 Damdred wrote:
Also squishy is that all really alignment indicative? Sheeping isn't necessarily just something mafia or town does right? It is NAI on its own. But if you connect the dots that he does not lead or push his own reads; it makes me feel weird. Since you are not seeing eye to eye with me it may just be my gut telling me then. But I feel he is trying to fly below the radar, and be another number in these townie lynches, rather than make his own arguments and risk being questioned.
We still talking about DF here? Dude has like, eight pages of filter so I am curious as to why you think he's trying to lay low with that in mind.
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Onegu could be mafia but I don't recall anything strongly mafia-indicative in his filter. With regards to D2, I didn't really like his BTDT posts (in terms of explaining too much) but that's not enough for a vote imo.
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On January 12 2017 09:27 Damdred wrote:
For the record currently I am voting B0ston I think he needs a bit of attention and how he acted aroudn the grack lynch and the game in general is indicative of scum.
This. Boston > coin-flip any day.
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