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On December 16 2016 01:35 iamperfection wrote: Game will pause on christmas if we play during it. As on no posting and 24 hours added to that cycle OK that is super cool. (= | ||
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On December 20 2016 00:15 Kmatt wrote: Wait what? Are you just sarcastically scumbaiting or do we not like LS? If you're asking for a night kill aren't you assuming he's town? Or is it that you think he's a bad town and will get himself lynched if left alive? On December 20 2016 00:22 Kmatt wrote: My assumption is that he thinks you're a bad town and wants you gone before you waste a lynch vote. On December 20 2016 00:31 Kmatt wrote: I'm willing to bet that was sarcasm. SL any input here? I'd rather not have to speak on your behalf when we're in this thread together. You assume SL might be seriously talking about LS being bad town, then you assume it was sarcasm ? And you're pressuring SL on that but you think it was townie ? | ||
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On December 20 2016 07:59 disformation wrote: Alright fair enough. With majority lynch in mind, we probably have to consolidate on ExO_ regardless. Unless he comes back with some really good stuff. While we are at good stuff: @Rels: Hey, psst. Yeah, you. You look like the type. Got any of those: + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://previews.123rf.com/images/johanspeed2/johanspeed21007/johanspeed2100700020/7332635-Isolated-Reeds-on-shore-in-swamp-wetland-Stock-Photo-reeds.jpg) I got some wine if you're interested. I'm not caught up but I don't see why we have to consolidate right now when there are more than 24 hours left in the day. | ||
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And at the same time he's not really pushing Koshi/Kmatt, just explaining his logic over and over. This is maybe the 6th post on the subject: On December 20 2016 02:31 ExO_ wrote: Why is disinfo not-suspicious? My logic is this: Koshi/Kmatt think I'm scum Disinfo immediately tries to deflect the thread away from kmatt's scum reading of me Therefore if Koshi/Kmatt are really town, who really think I'm scum, they should at least be questioning disinfo | ||
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On December 20 2016 08:25 Kmatt wrote: Oh here we go again He was making a joke. I'm getting sick of having to explain it to people and want SL to do it. That is all. So you never consider SL sentence to be serious ? And you stated openly in the thread multiple times that you think that SL is making a joke and that oyu think it is townie, there is no pressure on SL anymore since he knows what you find townie. | ||
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On December 20 2016 03:28 Alakaslam wrote: When did SL get this pass to scumclaim? Why is that kind of shit tolerated what What is his meta now? I don't like these back to back useless questions. | ||
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On December 20 2016 08:49 Kmatt wrote: No, SL was obviously not serious about trying to get LS nightkilled. I find harmless banter at the start of the game to be more town behavior. As of now, with how absent he's been from discussion I have a null read on him. There hasn't really been pressure because we've been talking about different things. I'd like to hear some thoughts from him and something constructive from LS. You never played with LS ? I remember one game of yours where you were scum with NocturneMage, was it your only one ? | ||
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On December 20 2016 08:55 Koshi wrote: Rels if you have time can you look at disformation. I am going to bed now but he is mafia but made some townie posts. But the problem is that good but not great mafia players make a couple good looking posts to avoid the lynch. I still have a few pages to read but I don't have a read on him. Most of what he's being scumread for is stuff that he's being scumread for every game. There were a few things that bothered me but were weak: his first post where he talks about a lot of different things, it looks like a prepared post; and the "HF had a good point on me being scum" thing which is weird. | ||
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On December 20 2016 04:19 disformation wrote: Probably not. :D Liked this post: ???? why is this townie | ||
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Actually it makes up for like half of his filter: On December 20 2016 01:44 ExO_ wrote: Disinfo didn't immediately agree with you, he disregarded your case by saying im not a morning person. Are you reading the same thread as I am? On December 20 2016 01:54 ExO_ wrote: I don't think disinfo is scum, I'm saying you guys not finding him suspicious if you think I'm scum, is suspicious. On December 20 2016 02:08 ExO_ wrote: [/b][/b]If you think I'm a scum: Kmatt comes into the thread and votes me. Disinfo basically brushes off the case saying I'm not a morning person and tries to redirect the conversation elsewhere. If you think I'm scum, why are you both ignoring disinfo doing this? Either you (and kmatt) don't really think I'm scum, or are ignoring disinfo here for some reason I cannot fathom. your turn Why aren't you scum reading him if you think I'm scum? On December 20 2016 02:15 ExO_ wrote: What if they aren't mafia? I don't like being called mafia at all. Especially for bullshit reasons. Literally look at the end of the most recent game I played. If you think this is getting "tilted" then I get tilted easily I guess. I don't understand why I'm not allowed to be tilted, especially when I say one sentence and am immediately voted and teamed by 2 people. Either way it's far too early in the thread for me to lock into both of them being mafia. So I can't just brush them off entirely. THAT would be a scummy thing to do. On December 20 2016 02:27 ExO_ wrote: I don't agree with your assessment of why Koshi "voted" me. Let Koshi speak for Koshi. I wasn't angry at Kmatt for playing the game, I was angry at being immediately OMGUSed, and I don't think it makes any sense for Koshi to vote me based on that. They should be suspicious of disinformation because he brushed off anything kmatt was trying to say about me being scum and tried to move the conversation elsewhere. If I'm scum, and disinfo is immediately trying to move the conversation elsewhere, it should be suspicious. What I'm implying is by not even saying anything about disinfo they are acting suspiciously, and looks scum-indicative to me. I know I'm town. So in order for me to find disinfo suspicious I have to think that he's ignoring what kmatt said about me not because he thinks its bad (which is the obvious conclusion in my mind) but becuase he's mafia just wanting to skirt by. That's not impossible I guess, but I don't think its nearly enough to scum read him for. On December 20 2016 02:31 ExO_ wrote: Why is disinfo not-suspicious? My logic is this: Koshi/Kmatt think I'm scum Disinfo immediately tries to deflect the thread away from kmatt's scum reading of me Therefore if Koshi/Kmatt are really town, who really think I'm scum, they should at least be questioning disinfo On December 20 2016 02:39 ExO_ wrote: At the time when I first posted, disinfo hadn't mentioned anything about finding me scummy. My initial reasoning for why they should find disinfo scummy stems from his initial post, not his posting after that. When you are asking me to explain my reasoning I can't just retroactively add in information to my posts that I didn't have at the time. And come off your high horse. "there's always room for improvement" blah blah blah. Shit like that just pisses me off | ||
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TOWN LS Koshi/HF SL/Kmatt disfo/Slam Exo SCUM | ||
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On December 20 2016 13:00 ExO_ wrote: Just got home from work. Jesus Christ though, this is just like touhou mafia. Scum read on day 1 for bullshit. 'll tell you this much: I'm VT. Every time I've claimed VT on TL mafia forums I have been VT, check for yourself if you don't believe me. Yeah yeah, I'm helping scum blue hunt blah blah blah (though we don't even know if there is a blue in this game) but I feel like this is the best way I can help town. Day 1 is always a shit show. And what you're getting from me is my thoughts as I get them in my head. I'm not carefully thinking them through about how it would make me look, I'm just laying them out. If you want to come up with some bullshit justification for why that makes me scum, then fine. I get tilted and I know it. I also know that it puts me into a great position to look at the thread and gauge the reactions to the scum read of me, and use that information to figure out who might be scum. But I'm not gonna lie right now it's hard to want to do that. And @rels idk what you were reading, but HF repeatedly asked me about the disinfo thing. It's why I went back to it multiple times to explain to him what he didn't seem to understand. Regardless I was tilted and operating from the assumption that kmatt/Koshi would be scum together. They might not be, but I felt like I was getting gang banged right of the gate by them and I was tunneled on them. I don't know what else you want from me. I've never been a player (esp on day 1) that's been good at diving filters and pointing out inconsistencies, scum-meta reads, etc...I've always been better at fighting to show others I am town. You might not like it, but that's the player I am. If everyone has already decided that somehow my play this game makes me scum and/or is going to be patronizing assholes (a la HF) then I don't know what else I can do. But if people are actually willing to work with me then I can show that I'm town. Yep, he repeatedly pressured you on that thought and you kept saying the same things over and over. If you're town I understand your frustration after being lynched day 1 last game. But again, you have no attempt to scumhunt in this big post, only emotional BS. If you wanna work with people, let's talk. Who would you lynch right now ? | ||
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On December 20 2016 18:05 Koshi wrote: I reread Exo and the first 10 pages of the game and nothing Exo did is showing any mafia mindset. I think the case on him boils down to "odd town play". The case Rels makes on Exo, I don't know if that makes him mafia, it is a very odd play for mafia to constantly push such a deep idea while defending. I am reading Exo more like odd town than cornered mafia. So currently I still don't like disinformation, sicklucker, Alakaslam & Rels. I might really not like Rels. Why ? | ||
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On December 20 2016 18:19 Koshi wrote: If you are asking why I don't like you. I don't know yet. But my feels say you are potential mafia. That is what I'm asking about and this doesn't statisfy me. Why is SL anything other than null ? | ||
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Why are you voting him then ? On December 20 2016 18:25 Koshi wrote: Because I like you are here I shall read the latest pages as well. Maybe my feels are off. (wouldn't hope on it) Because that literally never happened in the history of TL mafia. ... right ? p: | ||
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On December 20 2016 04:05 disformation wrote: *sigh* okay, appears I am playing shit tier level currently. have another shit tier post on exo then: basically I can see him reacting badly to a SR on him (as either alignment), because I am prone to doing that, too (as either alignment). So I am thinking NAI here. His "I dont give a fuck" attitude towards koshi is rather town than scum imo. The thing that confused me for that most part is that he suddenly brought me up. Yeah Im super biased, deal with it. Cause it does either make no sense or is a super bad deflection attempt. Maybe both? Problem is that town likes to do things that dont do much sense. Another thing that ULTRA confuses me is this (note these two posts are back to back): Does he believe they are mafia or not? Which is why I asked him to explain his reads again. So his filter makes 0 sense to me, but not making sense is not necessarily scum indicative. So I would love for him to come back and post some actual reads. TBH I am in a super weird spot on ExO_. like he does not make much sense, but I am not finding him too scummy. yet, I dont really have legit scum reads, so he looks like the best bet. I think this post is hard to do as scum, and even more in disfo's position, when he's been attacked for being on the side on not taking position. | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote: Rels is too unsure in the wrong places. Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot. Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote. (I did this at 2AM but whatever.) What does that mean ? What am I unsure wrongly about ? | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:05 Koshi wrote: I disagree. That post is extremely easy to make as scum. He made shitpost after shitpost, didn't do jack shit the entire time this was being discussed "live", and then at some later point in time he makes a recap post on Exo. Really not impressed by that. There are 2 things speaking in disformation his favor: 1) he was quite quickly poe'ed on the right people. 2) his tone is consistently terrible. He made a recap post that resulted at NO conclusion, when he was under pressured for being waffled. This is NOT easy to make as scum, not the recap part, the not taking position part. | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:06 Koshi wrote: Ty slam. This is really good. Ty. You're beginning to annoy me | ||
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Nope. But if they're partners though everything I've just said doesn't hold weight actually. | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote: some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing. I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator. Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through like what could I even mean wat | ||
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Yep it is, and you will STOP yelling at me | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:25 Koshi wrote: And the conclusion is "exo could be scum maybe" Like what the fuck are you even doing Rels? fuck it IS true. He said he has no opinion but at the same time that exo is the best lynch | ||
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On December 20 2016 07:59 disformation wrote: Alright fair enough. With majority lynch in mind, we probably have to consolidate on ExO_ regardless. Unless he comes back with some really good stuff. While we are at good stuff: @Rels: Hey, psst. Yeah, you. You look like the type. Got any of those: + Show Spoiler + This is bad since he has no read on ExO but is OK to lynch him multiple posts | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:32 Holyflare wrote: Also exo's appeal to emotion is not doing it for me. There should be a wall of text on disformation there instead. Disformation has done everything exo should be calling him mafia for, the confirmation bias should be extremely strong. But appealing to emotion instead.... Yep it was only emotional stuff in it | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:15 Alakaslam wrote: some of your stances on disformation, some of your ideas regarding who would be scum why, that kind of thing. I find it odd though, what could I have meant? I find that I am really unclear, even in IRL with people. That probably explains lots of people's confusion with me on here. I am just a really bad communicator. Like I would assume people would get what I meant from what I said, that they'd see the subtleties I intended rather than others. So I wouldn't think the subtleties through like what could I even mean Now that the thing on disfo is settled, please expand on the bolded. | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:38 disformation wrote: If you paid attention ExO_ is in my poe... I have a problem with that. Your whole "recap" post on him was looking like you were gonna say he's a null read or something like that. There is a disconnect with your reasonning and ExO being your main scumread. | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:40 disformation wrote: Since when do I have scumreads this game? You JUST JUSTIFIED YOURSELF saying he's in your POE | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:42 disformation wrote: Like my "conclusion" on ExO_ was litterally: he is pretty nully cause I cant make sense of him, but at the same time he looks the worst of all players. that is not really a scumread Then replace "main scumread" by "main lynch candidate". | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:43 Alakaslam wrote: ^^ ok See vote thread Goodnight people On December 20 2016 19:35 Rels wrote: Now that the thing on disfo is settled, please expand on the bolded. | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:46 Alakaslam wrote: Expand on it? I read your stuff earlier today and I found it to be unnatural That's a read of sorts. It's how some of us work, less concrete you might say. I have a direct opposite experience with playing with saitamaofonepunch p: | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:47 disformation wrote: Ah yes. More like "I am not sure about the guy, but still can lynch if i/we dont come up with something that convices me more." I can understand that, that's what I thought was townie in your big post on exo. But after that, you being so OK with exo being lynched when he's a nullread and not looking for more scum is suspicious | ||
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On December 20 2016 19:53 Koshi wrote: You started 3 posts in this game (2 on disformation, 1 on Exo with major waffles). It is odd. I "started" 3 posts ? | ||
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On December 20 2016 20:12 Koshi wrote: These things. Mafia has a though time thinking things through as a townie would. The first step figuring things out is easy for a townie, it instant happens in his brain, then the second step is thinking further and proving your initial gutfeeling. You are not doing that, you are stuck on step 1 and making boring as fuck posts about that. BS. The posts you quoted are actually all great indicators of my thought process. I don't understand your logic on me. You know you don't read me well, I usually (always ?) fool you as scum, and you usually scumread me early game as town. Why are you so focus on me in this game ? It's nothing like last game, in which you gave me time to do stuff. | ||
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On December 20 2016 21:33 Koshi wrote: I am also pretty suspicious that sicklucker is bullshitting about this mindmeld thing. I feel like his posts don't add up chronologically. SL does not play like that. SL as scum does not lie about stuff like that. Why do you not know that SL as scum do not lie about stuff like that ? | ||
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On December 20 2016 21:54 Holyflare wrote: I just want to lynch into sl/exo/disfo and most likely win. I think exo's appeal to emotion into 0 reads is bs and opportunistic and he should be voted. I think SL's posts are terrible and his mindmeld bs is either made up or just makes rels town. I don't like his berating of koshi despite saying that koshi is doing what he does every game. I think disfo is extremely self-defeatist, doesn't post things that chronologically make sense and even points out his own mistakes which suggests a hyper awareness of his faults which is scummy. Much more used to post anything and everything disfo. Same question | ||
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On December 21 2016 02:29 Holyflare wrote: That was a simple answer. pretty funny too | ||
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On December 21 2016 02:44 Koshi wrote: Oh wait. Deadline is on an ungodlike hour. Ok. Till tomorrow. Will lurk. This deadline is horrible | ||
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On December 21 2016 04:42 disformation wrote: Was taking a brief look at kmatts last game here (as scum) because I remembered him getting ppl off of him with a huge wall. Turns out that was a huge ass wall case post on gb. Think stylewise that is too different on his read post here, so not a good basis for comparison. Also the game was nearly a year ago not just 6 month. Good idea, that's a good time to reread that too since there is not much to do. You mentionned before that he was nominated for best scum but I don't remember a very good scumgame ? What did you think of it after rereading ? | ||
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On December 21 2016 05:11 Rels wrote: Good idea, that's a good time to reread that too since there is not much to do. You mentionned before that he was nominated for best scum but I don't remember a very good scumgame ? What did you think of it after rereading ? Well it was much better than I remembered. Not very active but a lot of nice looking posts, in particular the case on GB is impressive. He also did that one thing newb scum always does where he had the strict minimum of interactions with his partners. | ||
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On December 21 2016 05:27 sicklucker wrote: was this a majority? so weird playing with majority lynch on tl.. It was an answer to Kmatt question just above | ||
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On December 21 2016 05:30 ExO_ wrote: When I flip town, do me a favor and lynch HF/Disinfo When I get back I expect to see some cases then | ||
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On December 21 2016 06:27 ExO_ wrote: It's not about switching votes at this point. It's about getting the perspective of a townie. Anything I say you know will be motivated not from a scum perspective, but from my own VT perspective. I'd love it if the lynch changed but assholes like HF are so self-confident that there won't be any movement in time. And then they'll just blame me in the end. Honestly fuck HF I thought HF was scum in your head ? Why are you insulting him if you think he's scum. | ||
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On December 21 2016 06:56 Koshi wrote: Maybe we lynch the Slamfish? Not over exo | ||
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Why would he be angry at HF and scumreading him at the same time if he's town ? | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:13 Koshi wrote: Because he is town and being lost. His best post in the thread was about disinfo and LS being mafia. then he voted HF ? That doesn't make any sense | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:17 Koshi wrote: Look dude. If you are mafia and play with a mafia buddy you enter the thread with an exit plan. Exo did not do that. Exo also replied to a lot of people quickly and made some insightful comments. (now those comments were kinda horrible because it seems like he didn't even read the thread carefully, but that is totally NAI) What was mafia ExO doing? And with who is he mafia? Either his buddy is bussing him hard and on top of that ExO has no problem talking to him or about him. Or it is LS/Alakaslam. This is generic shit, he could be the type of scum that think surviving is posting stuff in the thread. He played scum with you in the dota game, how did he play there ? | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:31 Koshi wrote: For example when he was defending disinformation with a completely retarded reason which on top of that was incorrect because he didn't read carefully enough. Problem is I think the entity rels/sicklucker is more likely both town than both mafia. But 1 mafia/1 retarded seems more likely. You think I'm more careful as town than as scum ? | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:34 Koshi wrote: I am never ever voting ExO today. My points on lynching slam first are excellent. I stand the same about voting slam over exo. But one of us is gonna move to the majority before leaving because the setup include a fucking majority vote. | ||
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You say it's suspicious that I defended disfo using a post that I did'nt read carefully. Which I find to be a wrong thing to say about me, unless you think I'm more careful as town than as scum ? | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:39 Koshi wrote: scum tends to not read post very carefully because they are not scumhunting. But yeah you were pretty good last game as mafia but it has been so long I don't know. Then feel free to read any of my scumgames before saying wrong shit. | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:46 Koshi wrote: There is a game in which the host (it was raynpelikoneet) fucked up that had an immensly impressive mafia slam. If he's scum this game I don't think anyone would call his performance "impressive" | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:47 Holyflare wrote: Can someone link the kmatt mafia game? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/500060-newbie-student-mafia-xviii?user=Kmatt | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:51 Koshi wrote: So Rels? Do we stick on ExO? HF can't decide so he can go sit on a dick. My vote is on him. I'll switch if it is needed to lynch someone else but he's the most likely to flip scum. His dota filter is not impressive. | ||
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On December 21 2016 07:53 Kmatt wrote: Why do we think I'm scum again? I saw some people say that since I posted a case on GB in NSM as a WoT then my WoTs is some kind of tell. I just like wrapping up my ideas in a single post. And using my only other game as meta is kind of silly. For now I'm quiet because there doesn't seem like much for me to do here. I have my scumread and cast my vote. Barring any major developments I don't see my read or vote changing tonight. There's obviously a lot to consider with the side wagons like Alakaslam and disinformation but nothing worth vote switching for the time being. I'm keeping an open mind so have at it. So you were reading all this time but didn't say anything ? Even when exo started positng ? | ||
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sooo what did you think of exo's posts ? What do you think of Koshi's take on Exo's posts ? What do you think of Slam ? | ||
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On December 21 2016 08:02 disformation wrote: Everytime you link a boring filter HF smashes a flower pot? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/485267-newbie-student-mafia-x?user=disformation | ||
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On December 21 2016 08:05 disformation wrote: Hey that game wasnt boring. I do amazingly sick moves like not voting the GF cause there was a greencheck on her, causing a VT to be lynched and then get pocketed by her the very next cycle. and still SL, tunneltock and me were able to clutch it out in mylo/lylo cause SL got boxerfred to conceed. oh and I was about to drop a huge case on someone when that person claimed cop and I go like "Fuck now his random unexplained reads make a lot of sense!" oh yeah that's my first game. I randomly copied a filter from your entry in the database. p: That game was amazing, so much in fact that SL got 3 games banned =D | ||
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k with SL you have actually 5 votes on whoever you wanna lynch if Koshi and I stay on exo and slam. I'm gonna sleep. I think exo should be lynched over slam. Good night! | ||
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On December 21 2016 11:42 Alakaslam wrote: Are EL S hahaha | ||
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On December 21 2016 17:47 Koshi wrote: The bottom 3 I would accept losing to if I had to eliminate 4 players this moment in time. They played really well as mafia and good as town. Disformation made a bunch of terrible posts and should be mafia for that. But he then made a bunch of decent posts so I need 72 more hours. Top 3 is bad town, little bit better mafia tier. Sicklucker made some posts that might resemble townie posts, so he is the lowest. STFU I'm not bad town | ||
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On December 22 2016 01:30 sicklucker wrote: when rels gets nked tonight your gonna feel pretty dumb WHY ARE YOU TOO NICE TO ME | ||
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On December 22 2016 04:30 disformation wrote: He mentions kmatt very early in the post sicklucker mindmelds him for. Asks a few questions of Kmatt. Later: After Kmatts wall: Asks Kmatt a few questions at EoD about ExO_ etc. I think I told Rels that Kmatt was actually pretty good in the last scum game. Not sure if Rels reacted to that. Dont think so. Oh wait he even links it himself: but no comment on contents of that game, from what i have seen. LIE | ||
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On December 22 2016 05:19 Koshi wrote: It's the smiley. It is known that smiley is made by mafia way more often than town. It is known. =D | ||
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The most logical team seems to be klmaatt disfo BUT IF I DIE KOPSHI IS LIKELY SCULM. NOBYUDY ELSE WILL KILL ME. IF I DIE AND KOSHI SURIVES TOO LONG YOU NEED TO KILL HIM | ||
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LS is so ciute an,d naive he's town Slam awaxs pretty townie maybve scum but maybe not SL maybve he tryharded D1 if he continues to be boring or AFK he's scum Kmatt / disfo makes the most se,nse for scum, no will to reread but I remember Kmatt having a bad posqt when HF wanted to swithc to him jsut before I went to sleep. And disfo had so much posts on him but no cpnclusion yesterday but now he's scumreading a lot and he's analysing that I could be his partner already based on a false info since I acyally reread Kmatt old scumgame, mauybe TMI | ||
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On December 22 2016 17:24 Koshi wrote: Can we discuss how Rels thinks that him dieing N1 somehow means that I am mafia? sure ^^ | ||
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On December 22 2016 10:34 sicklucker wrote: Damn medic should claim. thats two confirmed towns eZ game nope. Why would he do that now ? | ||
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This one: On December 21 2016 11:43 Alakaslam wrote: Are EL S was saying some stuff, I can't remember squat I just remember being suspicious of him He basically repeated the exact same thing he said 2 days before: On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote: Rels is too unsure in the wrong places. Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot. Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote. (I did this at 2AM but whatever.) Why did you find that post so townie ? | ||
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On December 22 2016 18:45 Koshi wrote: And I liked it so much because I saw it but didn't say anything about it because I was like "meh w.e rels is bad anyway", but then when Alakaslam said the same thing I was very happy. But he's not the post you quoted, he's just repeating that he had a bad feeling about me earlier in the game. | ||
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On December 22 2016 18:46 Koshi wrote: btw if you really dislike me calling you bad every chance I get you might want to say something and I will tone it down. I don't want a second VE moment. But if you can't hold yourself. Just don't post scum QT while you rage quit. Nothing can get me down today (= but no worries I'm town and I won't get lynched. I'm just getting started. With no kill tonight game is gonna be EZ | ||
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On December 22 2016 18:50 Koshi wrote: Also Rels, if you want to gain any townpoints. 1) Explain how you dieing means I am mafia? Why you? You didn't pressure me at all before saying that, why would I kill you, why not HF or sicklucker? 2) Accept the fact disformation is town. And give me extra reasoning why he is town. But accept it fully. I want you to write it down so you can't waffle around it anymore today. 3) Do you think HF is lock town for at least another day? YOU CANT TELL ME WHAT TO DO 1) I had this thought while I was drinking, that everybody else would kill HF or you, but if you're scum you wouldn't kill HF 'cause he's in your pocket 2) nope 3) probably | ||
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On December 22 2016 18:52 Koshi wrote: Oh and in addition. You did the same on Kmatt (first mafia, then town, both reads very weak and waffly) and on Exo you also made a very unconvincing post on why he was mafia. I can see from reading your posts you don't really believe what you write. well since you always think that of me early game unless I find a scum and destroy him, I dont care | ||
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On December 21 2016 10:35 Kmatt wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/W6IQsnY.jpg) Damn it all why didn't you morons talk me out of this. WE LOST E L O S T This is just after exo lynch. I don't understand the bolded. Even after coming back a few hours before the lynch you didn't seem to be OK to change the lynch. You did have a sentence about having an "open mind" or something like that, but you basically showed that you wouldn't change your vote. Why post this ? I don't think it was possible for someone to talk you out of this ? | ||
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Please read this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/498635-dark-tournament-mini-mafia?user=disformation then we'll talk | ||
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On December 22 2016 19:08 Koshi wrote: took page 8: Correct analysis. Nothing here is being held back or is pushing an agenda. Super townie sentence. Rest of the post is ok. shows he uses PoE in his head. I loved that part from the LS read here. Again shows that he in his head is putting a lot of value in the Vote Analysis. If you read the dark tournamenet filter you'll see that these types of posts is actually what he does as scum. General nice looking posts about the game and that fits with the thread leaders'view of the game. I was pocketed for the entire game in Dark Tournament and I'm seeing this in this game k let me show you | ||
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On December 22 2016 19:32 disformation wrote: I think I remembered it coming up which was why I was looking for it, but for some reason I missed your answer on it. It was late, I got sloppy, I fucked up, sorry. But dont you think I would be more careful as scum? =D Funny dude. I'm writing a big post on you. Light my lantern on one thing please: why did you find Kmatt townie during the early game, he's in one of your town list, you liked my post about him being townie, then when HF mentionned him before deadline you reread his filter but suddenly he's almost as scummy as exo, who is super scummy in your mind ? | ||
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On December 22 2016 19:48 disformation wrote: [scum] Kmatt Rels SL LS [town] Though I am currently somewhat confused by you tbh. This is not an answer to the question | ||
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On December 22 2016 19:55 Koshi wrote: Also why is it wrong to read Kmatt his filter and think he is scummy? Cause he read his fitler and finds it townie. Then Kmatt had a good big post. Then way later HF mentions that he might be willing to swithc to Kmatt. Then disfo rereads his filter and finds Kmatt scummy but not-quite up to exo level. | ||
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On December 22 2016 19:59 Koshi wrote: Yes and? You did the same thing. Exactly the same. What I didn't do is follow that pattern in every post of my filter | ||
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On December 22 2016 20:05 Koshi wrote: If this case on disformation is nothing more than massive reaching and trying to convince yourself he is mafia just pretend you deleted it right before you pressed "post". The more I'm quoting stuff the more I'm convinced. Disfo actions were always after someone else did something. He has no idea what to do and he's copying It's actually possible to match almost every one of his posts with a post by someone else that was made before. | ||
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There are tons of example, here is some of the obvious ones. OK I'm actually reworking this to be an actual proof of what I'm saying with every contentful post past early game analysed. With few exceptions, every post that disfo made is echoing something that someone else made before him. Keep it mind that the problem is not that he's sharing another player's point of view. THE PROBLEM IS THAT ALL HIS CONTENTFUL POSTS ARE MADE ON THE EXACT SUBJECT OF ANOTHER POST HE JUST READ. That might not be obvious from the timestamps, but if you're reading the thread and disfo's filter at the same time, the disfo post in those spoilers in his filter is just after the original post. Bad feeling about Rels (original idea from Koshi and Slam) + Show Spoiler + On December 20 2016 19:03 Alakaslam wrote: Rels is too unsure in the wrong places. Just a vibe; vibes fail me a lot. Just tossing it out there because fish, mc chicken, I'm voting the vibe. So this vote isn't technically a ninja vote. (I did this at 2AM but whatever.) On December 20 2016 19:06 Koshi wrote: Ty slam. This is really good. Ty. On December 20 2016 20:43 disformation wrote: Now I need to make up my mind on Rels. Like I can kinda agree that "something feels off". But imo more in the part about me. Or him being waffly in general. But I still like a bunch of his posts. Which makes me not want to lynch him. Also + points for getting some stuff about me roght before horribly backtracking. Rels is pretty good though. So the whole thing is not outside of his scum range. If SL and ExO_ would not be in the game, that would be a really hard one. I think as of right now I would lynch Rels over Slam? Still think today should be one of ExO_ or SL. ExO is scum 'cause he's not acting like last game (original idea from Rels) + Show Spoiler + On December 20 2016 09:19 Rels wrote: I'm caught up. disfo might be scum maybe, I didn't like his posts on SL and Slam these last few pages. But if the lynch was right now I would 1000% lynch exo. He's fighting very differently from the last game I played with him; in that one he OMGUSd every player that pushed him. Here he stated a reason for suspecting Koshi and Kmatt and repeated it over and over. Actually it makes up for like half of his filter: On December 20 2016 21:18 disformation wrote: So. There was a recent game where exo was lynched D1 as VT. Link to his filter First post he claims VT. Gets voted by Calix for that. Immediately OMGUSES Calix. Then he starts to actually play the game. As the time for the lynch approaches: + Show Spoiler + On November 05 2016 01:19 ExO_ wrote: I just woke up, and I have to run errands. I'll probably be back before EoD but I can't swear to it. What I will say is this: I came into the thread just saying whatever I felt like. It's how I always play town. I don't try to carefully construct my posts I just say whats on my mind. I did a lot of OMGUS. When I finally sat and calmly looked at the game, I put a little suspicion on DF/Skynx because of short filter, and rels for a similar reason. But I've been attacked for switching views, for not tunneling, for tunneling at the start, and a whole variety of other things. I don't know exactly how I could defend myself at this point. I've done my best to make you realize that I'm town. But a LOT of people are tunneling on me. I'm not sure what else I'd have to do to prove I'm town. The idea that I had a scum slip is a complete joke. If I die today: Lynch TT/Rels. Both are experienced townies yet are moronically pushing this lynch. Especially TT. After that I would look for people who coasted and just hopped on the wagon day 1. Do not Lynch Calix: Calix is the most most obviously confirmed town here. I want to say NU as well because of filter length, but I'm not sure. Anywho I'm running some errands now like I said. I should be back before EoD but my motivation to play this game is basically out the window. On November 05 2016 02:46 ExO_ wrote: TT/Rels/NU should be your prime suspects. Those are my top 3 scum reads. I also think there would've been a high chance for people to say "skynkx town read ExO at EoD b/c he's scum trying to get town cred". By pointing this out here I no longer think it'll happen. If it does though refer to this Conclusion: There are a bunch of similarities. Esp. at the start of the game. Tonewise I think his tone is way more over the top this game than it was in the game I linked. But as I said again and again: he has absolutely 0 reads this game. Look at his filter. Look at the two posts I quoted. See the difference? Imo ExO_ was actually a pretty easy town read in the game I linked. He had a wonky start, but after that he started actually playing and made good posts. This game we only have a huge appeal to emotion. ##vote ExO_ In fact he actually said later it was my post that gave him the idea to do that: On December 20 2016 22:51 disformation wrote: No I had to reread the game? Cause I totally forgot about that game until Rels mentioned and I thought it would be a good idea to look at exos filter again? Cause I totally forgot about that game until Rels mentioned and I thought it would be a good idea to look at exos filter again? Had to look for the game. Took me like 10 mins to find it. Yes. Yes. Yes. Slam is scummy (original idea from SL) + Show Spoiler + On December 21 2016 00:10 sicklucker wrote: I dont think ill lynch anyone but exo or slam today On December 21 2016 00:13 sicklucker wrote: This is a very bad path to go. I agree with exo and slam being the most likely. but the chance of them being the two scum out of 9 combiniations of people. And like I said me and rels are town. if you follow this you lose town the game because koshi and hf are crafty scum On December 21 2016 00:15 disformation wrote: fun facts about slam: doesnt mention exo even once. throws a bit of shade in a throwaway post early on SL. jumps on rels and then me. not saying anything. just in case exo flips red (which is likely imo). Kmatt and ExO could be partner ? (original idea from Koshi) + Show Spoiler + On December 21 2016 00:24 Koshi wrote: Could Kmatt and Exo be mafia partners? That little outburst at the start? Was it odd? On December 21 2016 00:34 disformation wrote: There was def. something off in that exchange. It is like a reaction bait into a reaction bait into ExO_ being super pissed. And it def. doesnt read super natural. So I am thinking there is probably a scummer in there. Since ExO_ didnt come back to play, but only to fish for feels I am assuming the one scummer is him. For both to be scum I think they have to be cool with Kmatt getting enough cred off that to carry? Or they went to far and dont have the motivation to salvage it? Like Kmatt didnt have a huge thread presence in his other game either, so I dont think him going carry is like a plan. Unless they are like sicklucker and just wanted to do it. Like exo points out a mehish point on Kmatt for disassociation, Kmatt goes right back at him and either ExO_ gets pissed by that, or he tries to fake the game I linked? I guess it is not impossible, but it sounds fairly far fetched for me. On December 21 2016 00:40 disformation wrote: And kmatt is even somewhat deflecting off ppl trying to talk about other lynches: Which would mean he is bussing pretty hard and not even looking to trying to deflect. Slam is scummy 2 (original idea from Koshi and LS) + Show Spoiler + On December 21 2016 06:56 Koshi wrote: Maybe we lynch the Slamfish? On December 21 2016 06:57 LightningStrike wrote: I forgot he was even in this game lmao. Will check his filter. On December 21 2016 06:58 disformation wrote: Well Slam graciously avoided talking about exo at _all_ On December 21 2016 06:59 disformation wrote: and had a bad post on SL. but some decent once on rels then he votes me and gtfos i think thats his entire filter Kmatt is scummy (original idea from HF) + Show Spoiler + On December 21 2016 08:26 Holyflare wrote: I think we should lynch kmatt, that re-entry to the thread and saying nothing annoys me On December 21 2016 09:17 disformation wrote: also starting to get tired. like i went through kmatts filter and the only thing that you could say is that his filter feels to linear. as in: he "pokes lowhanging fruit" (he even calls exo that). exo explodes and just keeps his vote on him. not much of scumhunting or reads until his list post. thing is. this progression makes a lot of sense for town too given how exo played and his list post is legit good imo. wait didnt someone call it bad for some reason? On December 21 2016 09:28 disformation wrote: Dunno doesnt really feel like a "case" on him. Still think there is at least 1 scum in kmatt/exo_ not 100% sure we are on the right side, but I still think exo is more likely. margin a bit smaller now though. do we even have enough ppl to make kmatt a thing? dont think so :/ On December 21 2016 09:29 disformation wrote: that is like a really odd post. like i kinda agree with the sentiment, but you were super adamant about exo like all damn game long. xD On December 21 2016 09:29 disformation wrote: that is like a really odd post. like i kinda agree with the sentiment, but you were super adamant about exo like all damn game long. xD You don't say Kmatt / Rels are scummy (original idea from Koshi) + Show Spoiler + On December 21 2016 17:32 Koshi wrote: Ok so mafia just thought it was better to lynch ExO over Slam. For me mafia team is Rels/Kmatt atm. Disformation might be town. Sicklucker is confirmed really bad at the game. On December 21 2016 17:33 Koshi wrote: 6.Rels 8. Kmatt 5.sicklucker 9.disformation 7.Holyflare 1.Alakaslam 4.LightningStrike On December 21 2016 21:24 disformation wrote: I think its kmatt +1. partially because I think that the exo vs kmatt thing was not tvt. another thing is how he approached the exo wagon the whole day and then made quite a few strange posts right before eod after being "Nah exo didnt post anything that changed my mind". something is def. wrong surrounding rels. like the sl mindmeld on him, with rels tring sl super hard. the whole approach on me. he was also pretty waffly on exo at the start right? will be back later to look at some filters in more detail. tbh I am super looking forward to see, who the suspects are going to want to lynch themselves.  Slam looks better (original idea from Koshi and Rels) + Show Spoiler + On December 21 2016 17:33 Koshi wrote: 6.Rels 8. Kmatt 5.sicklucker 9.disformation 7.Holyflare 1.Alakaslam 4.LightningStrike On December 21 2016 19:18 Rels wrote: Slam is pretty townie in this interaction with HF post flip On December 21 2016 21:26 disformation wrote: especially after slam looks a lot better now. Reread of LS and Slam after LS / Slam have been talked about (original idea from Koshi and Rels) + Show Spoiler + On December 21 2016 23:26 Koshi wrote: I am not ruling out LS/HF. But it's pretty low on my probability list. On December 22 2016 00:49 disformation wrote: good point. Overall I think LS is town, but I wish he had more reads in his filter. Like start of his filter is a bit of interaction/questioning early D1 without conclusions. Though I think that the questions into nothing and him generally not having a lot of formulated reads fit his town meta. Though I agree that he should be low on the priority list. Would like to see more stuff from him though. On December 22 2016 01:06 disformation wrote: So looking at filters for votes and stuff. part 1. LS (see my last post): looks more town than scum. not impossible to be scum. like if his partner is on exo and slam is town, he could have been trying to come up with a decent reason to not be on the same wagon. but I dont think his behaviour/tone match up with that. Slam starts pushing and voting Rels over Rels having a strange/wrong read on me. Rels rectifies his read on me and points out a pretty scummy post by me. Slam votes me and just returns b4 the deadline. still would liked for him to say something about why he was voting me, but in context it makes sense. An analysis on LS and Slam. LS he just talked about it with Koshi. Slam see the previous spoiler where he says Slam is looking better after Koshi and I said it, Kmatt is scummy 2 (original idea from HF) + Show Spoiler + On December 22 2016 01:37 disformation wrote: btw that was also a pretty good post. guess what kmatts answer was? On December 22 2016 01:40 disformation wrote: ah nope he actually answered it. Though it is super ahrd to discern. answer was this: but yeah I guess I have to take a break. getting confused with that many tabs open. also sl filter not that fun to read. Better check Rels' treatment of Kmatt (original idea from HF) + Show Spoiler + On December 22 2016 03:32 Holyflare wrote: If kmatt is mafia I'm safe calling sl town. He also seems not grumpy but he's also self aware of that now so probably means nothing. I need to look into whether rels has ever mentioned kmatt at all. On December 22 2016 04:30 disformation wrote: He mentions kmatt very early in the post sicklucker mindmelds him for. Asks a few questions of Kmatt. Later: After Kmatts wall: Asks Kmatt a few questions at EoD about ExO_ etc. I think I told Rels that Kmatt was actually pretty good in the last scum game. Not sure if Rels reacted to that. Dont think so. Oh wait he even links it himself: but no comment on contents of that game, from what i have seen. Well I could go on and on. ACTUALLY THAT WAS MY OLD CONCLUSION I DID GO ON AND ON LOL. I SEE THIS PATTERN EVERYWHERE DISFO HAS NEVER HAD AN ORIGINAL THOUGHT DISFO DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO AND ONLY DOES THINGS AFTER SOMEONE ELSE DID IT OR MENTIONNED IT DISFO READS ARE 100% THE AGGLOMERATE OF THE THREAD READS, ESPECIALLY THE THREAD LEADER, AT ALL POINTS EXCEPTIONS: Posts with actual content that I didn't find a match for: On December 21 2016 04:52 disformation wrote: First post is from this game. Second post from the recent NSM where he was town and got ML D1. Last post is from Dota 2 where he was scum. Mind you in that game he died of dmg and was not under universal pressure like here or the NSM. I kinda felt like I was starting to see thing cause I thought for a second that he copied parts of the NSM one into this game. Which proved to be wrong. But another funny thing is: In NSM ppl started scumreading him we he opened with claiming VT. Why does he claim vt here now? That would only make sense if he was trying to invoke feelings from last game. Like "Oh I was claiming VT as town last game and that got me ML D1, lets try to do it here again?" Think it makes more sense for him to do that as scum. And in either case: where are his reads? I feel like timewise he should/would have come back by now and tell us who to lynch. And super ultra nitpick mode: all 3 posts have a variation of "idk what else to do". But the the one in his town game is more like "i tried, but" while in his scum game and this game it is more like "I suck, but". and yeah im somewhat bored. =p It's kinda a copy of his post where he voted ExO, that was after mine, but it is waaaay later so it's a different pattern than every one of his other posts. Every other post I quoted, he talked about something that he just read. This one, nobody was talking about how exo was scummy anymore. So it's different. On December 21 2016 10:49 disformation wrote: ExO_ (5): Kmatt, Holyflare, Alakaslam (2): disformation (1): Holyflare (1): ExO_ Kmatt (0): sicklucker (0): Rels (0): Bit of stuff planned tomorrow. Will try to find some time and look at reasons/timings behind the votes. On December 21 2016 11:12 disformation wrote: okay general thoughts: at least 1 scum on exo. i know im town. i think hf is town (let me look at his filter tomorrow). so at least one in: kmatt, sl, rels. if its two its not rels and sl. dont think they would hard tr each other over that mindmeld stuff. out of the three remaining players slam obv sticks out the most. and he apparently thought the deadline was later, so he didnt have time to "fix" that. one of ls and koshi might have the tmi factor going, but need to reread. but yeah tomorrow is filter time He was the first to do a colored votecounts. I do this in every one of my scumgames 'cause it's free town cred for 0 risk. TBF I also do this in the majority of my towngames. But the analysis is weak and doubtful. Pretty useless TBF. | ||
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On December 22 2016 21:14 disformation wrote: so rels. youve read a scum game of mine earlier. did you take a look at my town games? Link me a counterexample and we'll see | ||
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On December 22 2016 21:19 disformation wrote: All my games are linked in my profile. I went through the last one IE star wars where you were cop and die N1. BTW It was painful to reread me being shennanied for 0 reason. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/512849-star-wars-rogue-1-hype-mafia?user=disformation&view=all It's true that you have a lot of interactions with what's happening with the thread. But not always. Here are a list of posts that I think weren't copies of someone else opinion OR where you go against what someone is saying: + Show Spoiler + On August 29 2016 17:38 disformation wrote: I hate how everyone seems to think I am good at this game. Also went through geripts walls and tried to add up his reads/comments via a point system: (note that this is an interpretation) -: bad post +: good post |: meh post trfel: - - + - disfo: + - - tw: - - - palmar: | - - - scott: + - vivax: + koshi: + hf: | + TT: + - | rb: - mostly lines up with his actual reads at the end of his second wall. kinda want him to explain why he doesnt think palmar is scum despite disliking a lot of palmars posts + the questions I asked earlier. On August 29 2016 20:57 disformation wrote: also geripts scumread on me is a bit weird. His comments on me: So where does the scum read on me even come from, the above doesn't seem very conclusive. It is kinda hidden in the parts where he talks about HF. On HF's read on me: Then he likes some on HF's posts: Only mentions of HF, which lead to a TR on HF (after saying HF's case on me is NAI for HF) and apparently he is sheeping HF's case on me, cause I am not sure why he would think I am the most likely scum from the things he said on me? The more I look at geripts post the more inorganic and constructed I think it is. Might also be written in this hard to follow/read way to look like work has been done and making ppl less likely to want to read it. On August 30 2016 18:50 disformation wrote: was skimming a bit through some tw and tt filters in other games. tw doesn't really look like either his town or scum games imo. for tt i need to find a recent town game. there are similarities to his scum play in shin megami tensai, but those are rather shallow imo. like his entry does look similar and his lists look similar. On August 30 2016 21:01 disformation wrote: I think that this is the scummiest thing to be posted as of yet this game. On August 30 2016 21:05 disformation wrote: voting vivax. will maybe write a case later. On August 30 2016 21:15 disformation wrote: ppl explaining their town reads on vivax might be cool. Then later backing off the easy lynch: On August 31 2016 00:04 disformation wrote: blah. im not feeling the vivax lynch. On September 01 2016 00:34 disformation wrote: random tinfoil: why is vivax only going after easy targets? scott is know to get misslyched a ton (no offense) and geript has like no time to play. On September 01 2016 01:11 disformation wrote: plamar has already been questioned and pressured about his vote. if scum not for his vote. vote suspiciousness: low tw: the voting itself is fine. votes scott to save himself and then switches to rels cause he didn't think scott is scum. though this statement is very waffly: Also has weird reads around eod, so he really needs to step it up D2. vote suspiciousness: low-medium koshi really likes the tw lynch. switches after rels dun goofed. think koshis reactions are genuine and indicate he cared about the lynch. he also was on Rels earlier D1. So I think this looks okay. vote suspiciousness: low-medium vivi leads scott lynch all day. wasnt around at eod. so far looks perfectly fine and reasonable, but this post: super confuses me. despite leading the scott wagon all day and not buckling with his vote he is a bit like "oh nah, I dont really care which one of the two gets lynchend." Dunno. I would have expected him to care a bit more about scott? Or even if you scumread both, push a bit for the one who you think has the hgher chance to flip scum? Well, he never unvoted scott, but it kinda gets my paranoia going. vote suspiciousness: medium geript had his long stretch of voting me despite giving me a bunch of town points in his latest batch. and then votes dane? well it is in line with him having not much scum reads and these posts: and I guess some ppl were considering dane sheannanies, but still feels a bit odd, to throw out a vote like this, when it is really close between TW and scott at the time. That was the VC right before geripts vote:+ Show Spoiler + On August 31 2016 05:46 beentheredonethat wrote: Day 1: Vote Count #7 ![[image loading]](https://cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/66998607.jpg) Votes:
Not voting: - Currently, Tumblewood is set to be lynched. Remember, voting is mandatory. Please vote in the voting thread. If the vote count is not accurate or contains errors, please PM a host. Day 1 will end in (deadline being Tuesday, Aug 30 9:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)). still going to keep it at a medium, cause it lines up with his thought progression and he legit seems to be screwed on time. vote suspiciousness: medium | ||
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On December 22 2016 21:25 Koshi wrote: ##unvote I can't keep this up. ##vote Lighteningstrike I saw two posts that I think are pretty hard for scum!LS to make. On December 22 2016 05:14 LightningStrike wrote: I think you just were trolling me HF -.- These. This is his personality. If he was scum and working on imitating his town meta I don't think he would be able to replicate his natural naivety. | ||
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On December 22 2016 21:48 Koshi wrote: It is wrong that Rels does not want to touch Kmatt and is just pushing another lynch like a madman. Reminds me of my mafia games. I look town, I push some random smuck nobody really believes is mafia, but then on D3 they believe me and lynch my smuck. Rels is doing that. He doesn't really is open about Kmatt, calls him mafia as easily as town, and then is pushing his ml in disformation. Are you calling for Kmatt / me ? I read Kmatt filter. I can see him being scum, there are things in his filter that bothered me, namely several of his posts EOD1. | ||
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On December 22 2016 21:49 Koshi wrote: Ofc he can. Being mafia doesn't remove that at all. That's not obvious to me. LS have had a very hard tim eposting as scum until that millionaire game. I'm gonna see if he was able to replicate his naive posting there | ||
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On December 22 2016 23:58 Holyflare wrote: rels can you explain your progression on kmatt? you go from don't understand what the shit he's talking about to liking everything he says and his wall of text to saying he's pretty natural looking to saying he's probably mafia with disfo for his end of day posts (I don't remember what your conclusion was when you read his scum game) to now ignoring him today and voting off a wagon in a majority lynch what's your actual stance too? Maybe scum with disfo. No problem having different wagons before eod | ||
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On December 23 2016 00:05 Kmatt wrote: This is gonna sound stupid but I was under the impression that night=radio silence since there's no vote and we're supposed to be "asleep". Anyway THAT DUMBTELL | ||
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the only possibvility as scum is that he faked that dumbtell but this is SO far stretched | ||
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On December 23 2016 00:10 Holyflare wrote: all these after deadline............. at night............... .................... WAIT THIS IS TRUE THIS DOESNT MAKE SENSE ACTUALLY | ||
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On December 23 2016 00:29 Kmatt wrote: Oh wow there actually are only two scum. I was under the impression it was three this whole time. And there is ANOTHER DUMBTELL. This one makes 0 sense. The fact that we're looking for a 2 player scum team is all over the thread. Everywhere. This looks like forced dumbtells now. 2 in a row ?? I don't believe it | ||
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On December 23 2016 00:39 Koshi wrote: Lynch Rels. He is mafia. ##unvote ##vote Rels Come on. We finally had a moment where we talked about something this morning and you're back to THIS You're very very very annoying this game. The worst thing is that I don't even think you're a likely scum. At all. And that annoys me the most. | ||
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On December 23 2016 00:48 LightningStrike wrote: Then how would we be partners if ther enothing that connects us? Also if he was my partner why would he townread so hard the way he been doing it? I think this picture describes your perfectly: ![[image loading]](http://static1.squarespace.com/static/53016c21e4b0484cf754d052/t/55536c41e4b0a7df4f94aa44/1431530562676/) This is true. On the other hand why are you townreading me this hard, when at the same time you're saying "kill HF by day 3" ? You know I'm a very good scum too ? | ||
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On December 23 2016 01:49 Kmatt wrote: The case on you worked at the time because other than Exo there weren't any players with red flags. Most of it boiled down to not having any big public reads and you got jumped for it. I personally don't see that as too heinous day1 but I can see why they would. Slam's filter doesn't have a lot going for it but if his story's true than he has a reason to not be around. And I simply don't believe mafia can afford to be this passive so far into the game. They need a ML and won't be sitting this cycle out. Especially with how things are flipping around the past hour or two. So you're townreading Slam for being super passive but you're voting LS, who's been super passive ? How do that match up ? | ||
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On December 23 2016 02:05 Kmatt wrote: [/b][/b]What stops me from marking you scum is that you defended Exo. Granted if you were scum you could have been playing off that you knew he was dead anyway and wanted town cred for it, but you could have gotten away with it with less effort. So the only reason you're townreading disfo is that he defended exo, but ytou're voting LS who defended exo ? Again, how does that match up ? | ||
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On December 23 2016 07:12 Koshi wrote: Rels is playing really strong mafia and I can only call him mafia because I think he pushes mafia agenda. He ignores too many important moments, he has waffled , he has shown stupidity in how he reads people, and he has not convinced me of a single read so far. Or shown me something I agreed with, something original, even something small. Last time we were town together I could easily talk to him and feel progression in my head. This time we just fight. I don't think this is town Rels. I have already shown examples of everything I said here. But I can repeat. So this is my fault that we fight now. OK. | ||
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The first dumbtell was so INCREDIBLY AWESOME he hsould have stopped there. 2 dumbtells in a row, on such stupidly easily verifiable things is too weird to be a coincidence. His reads don't make sense. They are not logical. He's scumreading LS for an itneraction with exo, and that is it; he's saying himself that he's hedging a bet on it. He's saying rels / LS could be the team because ... no reason, just 'cause Koshi yelled about it. He thinks Slam is town because "I simply don't believe mafia can afford to be this passive so far into the game. They need a ML and won't be sitting this cycle out. Especially with how things are flipping around the past hour or two.". This is a weird read, but most importantly the same situation to his main scumread too. The only reason he thinks disfo is town is because of: "What stops me from marking you scum is that you defended Exo." This is a bad read, but that's not a problem for a noob to make a bad read: the problem is that AGAIN it applies to his main scumread. | ||
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On December 27 2016 06:53 iamperfection wrote: So per the op we are supposed to switch to 24 hour days i didn't intend to do that as that came from an older game with a different setup but since its in the op we will stick with it. If we don't finish we wont play on new years eve and the game will resume on new years day. You can flame me post game for not reading my own op but please wait until then. a post will go up at 830 est when the game resumes wait until then to post. | ||
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On December 27 2016 20:11 disformation wrote: oh fuck completely forgot about this. somewhat ackward. got stuff planned this week. -.- That's annoying. ATM I think you're the most likely scum so I wanna talk to you. Who do you think is scum ? | ||
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On December 27 2016 20:12 disformation wrote: Rels, do you have like 5mins to give me who you think is scum and why? You or slam. I hate a lot of kmatt posts and i thought his dumbbells were faked, but hf digged up a post from early game where he's really looking for a 3 men scum team. So it doesn't look fake. I didn't like a slam post when catching up, I'll dig it up | ||
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http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517122-liquidmania-qualifier-1?page=66#1320 Slam I don't understand your play here. You say you're catching up and mention that the vote is between LS and kmatt. Then you say "the day was decided before I got there" and leave the thread without giving your thoughts on LS or kmatt. Why didn't you take a side on kmatt / LS ? | ||
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On December 27 2016 20:19 disformation wrote: Awkward again. With no CC I think SL is doc. I know I am town. Kmatt was just the counterwagon to scum and everyone and their mother jumped on him at the start. so unlikely. I am not as sure on Slams towniness as Koshi, but I dont think I want to lynch today, since he had a bunch of good posts overall afterall. Flare has been fairly town and was one of the ppl to switch to LS. The switch at this position would make no sense for scum!flare imo... so I dont think I want to lynch him today either. so just by poe I am at you. and koshi had a bunch of decent points on you last night. Which slam posts were good ? Koshi had no decent points. Koshi always scum read me the first days when we're both town for the same reasons then change his mind later. He never scum read me when I'm scum. | ||
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On December 27 2016 20:28 disformation wrote: failure to engage with Koshi's points on you outside of flat out discrediting Koshi (who is atm dead). for example. Yep I don't waste time efending against something unless someone believes it. Explain why you scum read me and we can have a conversation. Right now you're vague and hiding behind dead player posts | ||
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On December 27 2016 20:29 disformation wrote: I think it is pretty unlikely for a bus to have happened D2. That insta narrows it down to two ppl. Since you hammered your partner fecalfeast in the outlaW game that doesn't buy you towncred in this game | ||
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On December 27 2016 20:32 disformation wrote: just concede. thanks. YOU BETTER BE SCUM MOTHETFCUKET IM TEYING TO TALK AND YOURZ DOING THIS | ||
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On December 27 2016 20:35 disformation wrote: then dont pull BS meta reads on me. you know that my bus on FF in dark tournament was HORRIBLE and I wouldnt do that shit again. -.- I think you 100% bus LS yesterday when koshi pushes him. Doesn't make you scum but not town too | ||
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On December 27 2016 20:36 disformation wrote: tbh I should probably read slam again too Can you comment on my finding I posted eaelier | ||
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On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote: [*] looks very suspicious by vca alone. votes dont lie Actually that's a good point for me being town. I don't look bad as scum. Check out my last scumgame where I bus Tumblewood D2 and get a lot of towncred. On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote: [*] Focused on a few ppl. Has mentions of most here and there, but pretty eh ish. Example: not much on LS at all. Same as above. I don't forget to mention my teammate as scum. On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote: [*] Focus on me for whatever reason all game long. waffle into defending into suspicion into case. Can indicate mafia agenda, esp in a game where ML are hard to get. hint for scum: if you want to ML me, do it early. I don't see how me evolving my read on you if scum indicative. Your sarcastic comment doesn't change anything about it. On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote: [*] Also constantly brings bad meta on me, but thats probably karma for me getting ExO_'s meta wrong. What bad meta ? You buddy a lot as scum. You bused FF in the dark tournamenet game and I think your also bused HTS. On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote: [*] Because of these it doesnt really feel like he is playing the game on towns side. At all. There is no point in this point. On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote: [*] The drunk post were pretty horrible as either alignment, too. And in this one. On December 27 2016 21:24 disformation wrote: [*] The mindmeld with SL? Rels just accepted the mindmeld with thanks. Easy pocket easy game. Nope. I townread SL D1 because of the way he was posting, not because he said he mindmelded me. I started to be more doubtful afterwards 'cause he was pretty inactive after that. But now unless HF or Kmatt are ccing he's confirmed town. On December 27 2016 21:42 disformation wrote: 1) Sticks around a while to consolidate if majority is needed. Easy to do for scum, esp if all options are town. 2) Given his filter I am not sure why he doesnt want me over ExO_ lynched. 3) Seems pretty unwilling to reconsider things. More likely to come from scum. 1) So if it's something I would also do as town, why is it in a list of things that makes me scum ? 2) Cause I thought exo was more likely scum that you. Which I think is quite clear in my filter why. 3) I do that as town as well as scum. And you know it. For example in the last game I stayed on exo and fought for his lynch D1 even though he was there until deadline in this case. In the game before that I stayed on NU. And on the game before it was on Lunatic. I odn't change my vote easily, and you obsed enough of my games to know that. On December 27 2016 21:42 disformation wrote: 1) Doesnt Check LS meta from the game where LS broke alignment despite saying so 2) Final post + vote on kmatt 20mins after HF posted a very good post in Kmatts defense 3) Implies he doesnt like Kmatt filter. Vote post includes only the wifom/no sense stuff and nothing from his filter. 1) yep I never had time to do that. Which again, is something so obviously scummy if LS ever flips that I would never do that as scum. 2) I didn't understand the HF post until he quoted it again later. 3) This makes no sense. I don't imply anything other than why I'm voting Kmatt in this post: On December 23 2016 10:32 Rels wrote: Yeah Kmatt is scum. The first dumbtell was so INCREDIBLY AWESOME he hsould have stopped there. 2 dumbtells in a row, on such stupidly easily verifiable things is too weird to be a coincidence. His reads don't make sense. They are not logical. He's scumreading LS for an itneraction with exo, and that is it; he's saying himself that he's hedging a bet on it. He's saying rels / LS could be the team because ... no reason, just 'cause Koshi yelled about it. He thinks Slam is town because "I simply don't believe mafia can afford to be this passive so far into the game. They need a ML and won't be sitting this cycle out. Especially with how things are flipping around the past hour or two.". This is a weird read, but most importantly the same situation to his main scumread too. The only reason he thinks disfo is town is because of: "What stops me from marking you scum is that you defended Exo." This is a bad read, but that's not a problem for a noob to make a bad read: the problem is that AGAIN it applies to his main scumread. | ||
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On December 28 2016 07:40 sicklucker wrote: rels your reactionary lazy play is kind of scummy bro I play reactionary 'casue I have had 0 time to play since I left Paris. Now is the first time since then I'm on a real computer | ||
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On December 27 2016 22:16 disformation wrote: So Slam. Super AFK. No idea what/where his reads are from. Wish he would have expanded on the LS/Kmatt thing yesterday. Wish I knew who he was going to vote today. Wish he wouldnt have backed off of LS in one of the posts I quoted. sooooo you listed 1000 things that are wrong with me and 5 posts from Slam that contained one that you found townie but you're unsure ? | ||
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On December 27 2016 22:40 disformation wrote: so. i think overall id prefer rels over slam. Rels def. had something "wrong" in his D1 read progression. the super bad drunk posts. VCA points towards him, and he feels like he has a bit of an agenda going on. Slam is just inactive as hell. I dont like him backing off of LS though. Feels a bit like a coinflip though. Can consolidate on him if I really have to. Meant to quote this post. Why are you so unsure about this choice ? It sounds way more straightforward reading your cases | ||
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On December 28 2016 02:33 sicklucker wrote: why are you attacking slam when disinfo is mafia? Cause I found these two posts werid and I want to know why he was thinking that the day was over | ||
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On December 28 2016 07:52 disformation wrote: "Oh I simply dont do that as scum" isnt a very good defense. Just sayin'. IT IS WHEN THERE ARE FACTS PROVING IT And again with the sarcastic On December 28 2016 07:52 disformation wrote: You are focusing a lot of your time and effort on me. And with a scummy narrative ever since you got over your initial waffle post. Also attempt at deflection noticed. - me focusing a lot of time and effort on you doesn't mean I'm scum - it's not deflection, KOshi made me realize when he read your dazrk tournament filter that you're sometimes sarcastic as scum. Like here On December 28 2016 07:52 disformation wrote: This game is nothing like DT. Therefore bad meta. Hint: look at how I bussed them. So you're saying as scum you wouldn't have bused LS yesterday when Koshi / HF were pushing him ? Cause that's what I'm saying. You voting LS yesterday doesne't bring you townpoints. On December 28 2016 07:52 disformation wrote: Point still stands. This post is a joke, not a townread. You just had to open the quotes to see the proof of waht I'm saying: On December 28 2016 07:39 Rels wrote: Nope. I townread SL D1 because of the way he was posting, not because he said he mindmelded me. I started to be more doubtful afterwards 'cause he was pretty inactive after that. But now unless HF or Kmatt are ccing he's confirmed town. | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:03 Rels wrote: IT IS WHEN THERE ARE FACTS PROVING IT And again with the sarcastic - me focusing a lot of time and effort on you doesn't mean I'm scum - it's not deflection, KOshi made me realize when he read your dazrk tournament filter that you're sometimes sarcastic as scum. Like here So you're saying as scum you wouldn't have bused LS yesterday when Koshi / HF were pushing him ? Cause that's what I'm saying. You voting LS yesterday doesne't bring you townpoints. This post is a joke, not a townread. You just had to open the quotes to see the proof of waht I'm saying: The last quote was meant to) be: On December 21 2016 02:22 Rels wrote: SL burst of posts start of page 21 are more townie than the entirety of his filter last game. He has a lot of difficulties replicating that as scum | ||
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On December 28 2016 07:54 Alakaslam wrote: So can we afford an ml? Yep. One. | ||
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On December 28 2016 07:54 Kmatt wrote: These posts are kind of throwing me for a loop here. Rels: You think Disinformation is mafia and SL is town Disinformation: You think Rels is scum and SL is town SL: Rels is scum and disinformation is town Did I get that all straight? SL is inversed I think. Why are you not considering SLam in your analysis when I think he's leading the votes right now ? | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:01 disformation wrote: I kinda have the same problem. You claim to have read games and stuff, but I am 100% sure I did some stuff this game I woudlnt ever do as scum. That kinda puts us in a position were one of is probably trying to get the other ML. Or we are both just in pants on head mode. Like what ? Until your tryhard case earlier every single one of your posts were a copy of what someone else had posted. I even had a fucking post about ti. ANd I KNOW you can tryhard and do big cases as scum so that by itself doesn't mean anything. | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:08 Holyflare wrote: You guys are fucking boring. I think we should lynch rels for being boring and shitty. Not once has he tried to convince us disformation is mafia all while voting him. Not once has he done anything useful. All he does is return, react and yell at his own scum read. Now he's talking about some bull shit swap play that doesn't exist between me and sl. The only thing that happened is that sl confirmed he fake claimed medic. You still don't care. This is annoying me. EITHER YOURE COP/DOC OR YOURE NOT. IF YOURE COP/DOC YOU CC. IF YOURE NOT SL IS 99% DOC BECAUSE SCUM HOLDING THEIR SHOT N1 IS WEIRD AND IF HES SCUM AND DOESNT DIE NEXT NIGHT WE'LL SEE | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:10 Holyflare wrote: Rels do 10 bullet points why you're town and what you've done this game that's good. Disfo too.
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On December 28 2016 08:12 Holyflare wrote: He's not doctor you pleb jesus christ. He fake claimed. Claim your fucking role right now. | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:14 disformation wrote: also guys. i think you are going to be mad at me buuuuuuuuut. are we sure we dont want to lunch kmatt? cause I dont feel like he is trying at all now that's also annoying me. But the dumbtell is real. Or faked since the beginning | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:19 Holyflare wrote: Disformation give me bullet points on what you've done and why you're town. Nope. You explain this weird role situation and THEN we resume the game | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:19 Holyflare wrote: You either think sl is mafia or you're literally asking someone to claim blue. Would sl be mafia if he wasn't doctor? YES HE WOULD | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:21 Holyflare wrote: Even though you've spent ten days saying disformation is mafia? YES I CAN BE FUCKING WRONG WHY ARE YOU SO VAGUE | ||
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If he was VT his luittle game with SL makes sense to check if SL is doing a scum plan holding the shot N1 then claiming. It doesn't make any sense for him as blue to tihnk SL is fakeclaiming as VT. SL did that as scum last game, SL was in a abd spot with Koshi having him as his main scum during N2. | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:35 disformation wrote: he knows. So ? | ||
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- HF is VT and thinks SL is blue. Him saying "SL fakeclaimed and people don't care" doesn't make sense. - HF is blue. ==> he thinks SL is VT fakeclaiming. Why does he think that ? SL calimed at a point where he was likely the next lynch; ;why would he not think SL would do a "SCUM WOULD NEVER DO THAT CAUSE THEY WOULD AUTO LOSE" plan ? ==> he thinks SL is scum fakeclaiming. Why is he not voting SL ? - HF is scum. More importantly, creating chaos around deadlines is scum motivated. Especially in this situation which could be explained in 30 seconds. | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:46 Holyflare wrote: "hf can explain it in 30 seconds no matter what since I've laid out every option" "hf isn't saying anything but wants to vote me" I don't see a scenario where you're more likely town than scum. If you're town you gotta explain why you acted like that. I'm perfectly OK lynching you right now even though you've been townie the whole game just for that claim situation. That doesn't make sense | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:48 Holyflare wrote: Disfo vs you and disfo spends time trying to think through game vs you talking at disfo and never once trying to make us see he's mafia and push him. Doesn't make sense. I was catching up and I responded to his case on me. I was done catching up when you posted that post about me | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:50 Holyflare wrote: Then when we come to disformation vs you and you're asked to outline why you're town and disfo the same then disfo gives some mediocre reasons and you do the classic mafia response of nothingness and spamming I'm town. Very useful when trying to figure out the game. Something you're criticising me of doing, keeping people in the dark, is exactly the play you were just doing. BS. It's easy to come up for reasons for being town as either alignmlent. I'm not wasting time on that | ||
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And I also said for once I had time and was on a computer. So what do you do ? Why not wait to see what I would ? TO see if I was gonna try to convinced you about disfo when I had time ? | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:53 Holyflare wrote: Let me lay this out really fucking simply. At no point have I claimed medic. So why is it so hard for you to comprehend that? Why are you saying "SL is unclaiming medic and nobody cares" then ? | ||
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On December 28 2016 03:23 Holyflare wrote: Now you've unclaimed medic though you should be the lynch. On December 28 2016 04:14 Holyflare wrote: He unclaimed medic But slam should be the lynch On December 28 2016 06:59 Holyflare wrote: who cares what went on with claims? sl fake claimed medic and that's all you need to know On December 28 2016 08:08 Holyflare wrote: Now he's talking about some bull shit swap play that doesn't exist between me and sl. The only thing that happened is that sl confirmed he fake claimed medic. You still don't care. | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:55 Holyflare wrote: And this is related to me being mafia how? How is SL not scum if he fakeclaimed ? | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:56 Holyflare wrote: 90% of page 91 is trolling. If you look in thr vote thread you'd see my vote goes on slam instead of sl. Now I've explained this let's get back to the game. I noticed and that's why I let it slide. Now explain your other comments | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:57 Holyflare wrote: And this relates to me being mafia how? You're not pushing SL but saying he fakeclaimed. Do you really not see why I'm asking all of this ? Are you playing dumb ? | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:59 Holyflare wrote: Ladies and gentleman. Rels notices page 91 is a troll page. Rels thinks my comments about sl are strange. Why are they strange? They're only strange to someone trying to figure out who the real medic is (mafia) because if sl is fake claiming it should theoretically make sl mafia. Who does rels say this makes likely mafia instead? Me. Rels isn't thinking about the results of the situation, he's thinking about how to paint people as mafia for it. Nope. Now answer the question | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:58 Rels wrote: You're not pushing SL but saying he fakeclaimed. Do you really not see why I'm asking all of this ? Are you playing dumb ? | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:43 Rels wrote: Here are the scenarios: - HF is VT and thinks SL is blue. Him saying "SL fakeclaimed and people don't care" doesn't make sense. - HF is blue. ==> he thinks SL is VT fakeclaiming. Why does he think that ? SL calimed at a point where he was likely the next lynch; ;why would he not think SL would do a "SCUM WOULD NEVER DO THAT CAUSE THEY WOULD AUTO LOSE" plan ? ==> he thinks SL is scum fakeclaiming. Why is he not voting SL ? - HF is scum. More importantly, creating chaos around deadlines is scum motivated. Especially in this situation which could be explained in 30 seconds. If you're town I don't undersatnd your mindset in one of your scenario. Explain it | ||
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On December 28 2016 09:03 disformation wrote: Was seeing a bit of light, but I think some of the posts in the HF/Rels interaction are pretty much against Rels. How so ? He's not answering the cruw of the problem but is just repeating how scummmy I' ve been all game. WHEN BEFORE THAT HE WAS HAPPY TO VOTE SLAM AND NOT MENTION ME | ||
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He says I've been super super scummy all game when before I started posting tonight he said: On December 28 2016 04:14 Holyflare wrote: He unclaimed medic But slam should be the lynch On December 28 2016 05:09 Holyflare wrote: He didn't read the thread conveniently dropped shade on a towny looking ls. Didn't read the thread but assumed exo was lynched because of me. Auto voted kmatt despite calling him town n1 etc etc. On December 28 2016 05:10 Holyflare wrote: Thread police Reads given that are strange Shade on mafia partner No fun Auto votes town read despite dumb tells Hasn't read thread all the meanwhile On December 28 2016 06:52 Holyflare wrote: disfo just going wherever lol probably mafia And now I've been the scummiest dude all game. | ||
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On December 28 2016 09:09 disformation wrote: thing is the sl - claim - whatever stuff makes 100% sense to me. what you are talking about ? | ||
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On December 28 2016 09:11 disformation wrote: this stuff. took me a while to understand though. What about it ? | ||
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On December 28 2016 09:13 disformation wrote: That stuff making sense kinda makes a bunch of your points rather invalid? It would, but I don't get it | ||
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On December 28 2016 08:12 Rels wrote: This is annoying me. EITHER YOURE COP/DOC OR YOURE NOT. IF YOURE COP/DOC YOU CC. IF YOURE NOT SL IS 99% DOC BECAUSE SCUM HOLDING THEIR SHOT N1 IS WEIRD AND IF HES SCUM AND DOESNT DIE NEXT NIGHT WE'LL SEE So the bolded sentence in your post is not serious ? | ||
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Why the refusal to admit that it was not serious from the beginning ? When I gave you so many posts about it ? When clearly you saw it was my problem with your posts ? | ||
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On December 28 2016 09:23 Holyflare wrote: Only one alignment is more concerned about figuring out claims rather than alignments. The only thing I'm concerned about is figuring out aligments. You having ambiguous posts about SL is about that | ||
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I understand being lynched over him. As long as he's lynched tomorrow I don't care. | ||
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On December 28 2016 09:30 sicklucker wrote: rels is mafia but can everyone but me vote him plz? I dont wanna go back on my ride or die :D k this seals the deal. | ||
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On December 28 2016 09:31 Holyflare wrote: Vote rels, bed time now. Will wake up to end game and title. 1st one to suspect you. Sry I think I will get it ^^ unless you make it out of LYLO alive | ||
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On December 28 2016 09:32 Holyflare wrote: Your post is bull shit rels. oh now you're communicating with me. Go to bed! | ||
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that makes no sense. I was a moslynch potential to get before now I am someone already dead and you're preparing tomorrowI was not talking about p91 I quoted the posts that I had a problem with | ||
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On December 28 2016 09:40 sicklucker wrote: rels realises things are not going his way and trys less. hummm man I really want to side with you rels but you played your worst "town" game of all time This pains me more though. Even disfo saw what Im talking about but just wanna Lynch me first | ||
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On December 28 2016 09:44 Holyflare wrote: Rels you are fucking stupid this game if you're town. This game has a medic in it and you're trying to question to see which player is the real one. You even forced me to claim a blue role if I was one. Talking about throwing. Nope. I was asking for an explanation that you gave 4 pages after for no reason Stop talking to me like I'm town too it's too late | ||
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On December 28 2016 09:50 Holyflare wrote: I have to sleep  Deadline is in 30 min | ||
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On December 28 2016 09:53 Kmatt wrote: I'm catching up now but still confused why we didn't get around to voting SL. He's WIFOM to the max and that doesn't look like it will change by tomorrow. I can see why people are voting Rels but with the majority vote I can't help but feel like I'm being swept along too easily to get the vote count. I'll vote since it's getting close and I might not be home by them but I want to give SL and whoever survives the next night or two between Rels and HF a good read over. ##vote rels Wait you caught up 1 hour ago already ? | ||
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On December 28 2016 07:54 Kmatt wrote: These posts are kind of throwing me for a loop here. Rels: You think Disinformation is mafia and SL is town Disinformation: You think Rels is scum and SL is town SL: Rels is scum and disinformation is town Did I get that all straight? There | ||
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On December 28 2016 09:56 Holyflare wrote: Yeh so what?i have work tomorrow Too much sleep is for the weaklings | ||
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On December 28 2016 09:58 Holyflare wrote: So any kind of vote inclination from you rels? You seem 0% passionate. Nope I'm lost. I wanna Lynch everyone | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:02 sicklucker wrote: I dont think my order of lynches is ever changing in this game now. bye rels. If your town i will avenge. I really hope your town oddly enough NP. Hopefully if hf is scum I got him to slip earlier. I'm not too sure now | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:04 sicklucker wrote: tbh if slam was here things could happen Like what ? We're already 4 there no need for 1 more | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:08 sicklucker wrote: rels i love u man Lol bro I don't hate you for hammering me :p | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:15 sicklucker wrote: rels be honest are we about to win Nope | ||
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sorry for my performance but I had 0 time to play. | ||
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Come one that ate was great | ||
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On December 28 2016 10:33 sicklucker wrote: im curious did you think the doctor could self save? No | ||
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