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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 13:28 GMT
#1128
Majority really makes the game stale
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 13:30 GMT
#1129
Fwiw I don't think rels or disfo are mafia either :p
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 13:34 GMT
#1130
Ls's mafia meta is repeated afk excuses too.

I could see a kmatt/ls team since kmatt had "cold feet" around the same time as his theoretical partner started posting that exo was town iirc.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 13:35 GMT
#1131
A deep psychological thing of seeing your teammate do stuff and then being hyper aware of it and factoring into your reads maybe?

Still wanna know about his sl stuff though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 13:39 GMT
#1132
Sicklucker
Oh wow apparently he made a line about me and him being scumbuddies. I legitimately did not catch that until this post.

Anyway this guy gives off a Slam vibe. I think it's just in his nature to make these one-liner stream of consciousness posts but he looks to be all over the place regarding our wagons. First he thinks I'm scum, then he thinks both Exo and I are scum (which simply doesn't make sense), then me mentions Slam being scum but says nothing about that case. He looks like he's ready to hop on anyone that could be a ML. But since he's down for lynching Exo he's either bussing day 1 (questionable at best) or he's just playing weird town. His enthusiasm for Rels is also odd. That speaks to me as trying too hard for town cred. Also conveniently hasn't spoken a word about disinformation unless I missed something in his spotty filter.

If Exo flips green/blue we're putting this guy on ice.


This is objectively a good case if it's true (not read sl). Everything he says should make sl mafia in his eyes but somehow the bussing thing eliminates all of that mafia behaviour? Then the caveat about exo just screams of tmi for later.

Whether they are partners is hard to say though.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 13:45 GMT
#1133
On December 21 2016 02:17 Kmatt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2016 02:08 Kmatt wrote:
Wew that was fun.

Alakaslam
Wow he actually sucks.

I'll admit, he's done a fantastic job of "skating by". His filter is tiny and full of garbage. He had those posts where he talked about Rels' reads but had no actual content. To this point he hasn't even acknowledged either the Exo or Disinfo wagons. However despite all this I'm leaning more towards him playing Lazy Town rather than a quiet scum. If our wagons are both ML, then Mafia wants to hop on board for the town cred and ride for an easy kill. If we have scum targets they need to be derailing us. He's just not playing at all. In my other game we had Fidei86 being super inactive as scum (though that might have just been him not playing much) so I don't rule Slam being scum out. He's not my first priority here so he's getting a stay of votecution.

ExO_
By all accounts this guy is still scum in my book, mostly for reasons already stated (no scumreads on anyone but his accusers, over-defensiveness at my vote, being unhelpful in general). While the meta read is totally believable, I have no reason to doubt that he's both playing to his own standard and being scum. Regardless, I won't miss him when he's gone. The vote can stay here.

Koshi
For the most part I want to like this guy. His posts do seem a little erratic, but that's not necessarily scum behavior. If you could lay out in a single post your full case against Sicklucker I'd like to see it. Just looking at your filter didn't give me a clear picture on why he's scum and why we should vote him.

LightningStrike
Literally where?

While I'm not a fan of his absence, I can't pin it down to being scum for reasons in Slam's summary. He does need to get off his rump and do some McFriggin work though. Otherwise he seems harmlessly townie. I don't want harmless town I want murderous lynching town.

Sicklucker
Oh wow apparently he made a line about me and him being scumbuddies. I legitimately did not catch that until this post.

Anyway this guy gives off a Slam vibe. I think it's just in his nature to make these one-liner stream of consciousness posts but he looks to be all over the place regarding our wagons. First he thinks I'm scum, then he thinks both Exo and I are scum (which simply doesn't make sense), then me mentions Slam being scum but says nothing about that case. He looks like he's ready to hop on anyone that could be a ML. But since he's down for lynching Exo he's either bussing day 1 (questionable at best) or he's just playing weird town. His enthusiasm for Rels is also odd. That speaks to me as trying too hard for town cred. Also conveniently hasn't spoken a word about disinformation unless I missed something in his spotty filter.

If Exo flips green/blue we're putting this guy on ice.

Rels
Town enough for me. Asks good questions, hasn't done anything particularly scummy in my eyes. He got a little confused on Disinfos pseudo-scumread of Exo but that was a genuinely confusing post. For now I find no fault here.

Holyflare
I'll take him as town as well. More aggressive than I would play, but still very town. I could see him getting shot night one *cough*doc*cough*.

Kmatt
ayy

Disinformation
I genuinely can't tell if he's scum or just a town being all over the place. As much as I hate going neutral on a big wagon, I have to give him a null. If it weren't for the other more deliberately scummy players I would feel better voting for him but as it is I can't come to a conclusion. I'm watching closely.

My current scumteam comes out to Exo/Slam/SL.

TOWN
Rels
LightningStrike
Holyflare
Koshi
Disninformation
Alakaslam
Sicklucker
Exo
SCUM


Update: The bit about Slam being lazy town was me not conveying my thoughts properly. I had that suspicion, but him being scum wins out. I don't lean towards him being town, just that it factored into my analysis.


This update on his slam read also made me go "why the fuck bother". Again, hyper awareness of slipping that slam is town and correcting himself to make stuff fit?

Not to mention his post doesn't even make sense. He clearly writes
However despite all this I'm leaning more towards him playing Lazy Town rather than a quiet scum. If our wagons are both ML, then Mafia wants to hop on board for the town cred and ride for an easy kill. If we have scum targets they need to be derailing us. He's just not playing at all.


Everything in this quote is geared towards him weighing up town or mafia slam and reaching a conclusion that it's lazy town but apparently him being mafia wins out?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 13:52 GMT
#1134
I also have absolutely no idea why this part bugs me and I KNOW it's fucking retarded but:



My current scumteam comes out to Exo/Slam/SL.

TOWN
Rels
LightningStrike
Holyflare
Koshi
Disninformation
Alakaslam
Sicklucker
Exo
SCUM


It really bugs me how it's exo/slam/sl written out but then his scum order is slam/sl/exo.

Not only should sl NOT be second on his list based on what he's written (the bussing) but the order is different.

I find it really hard to equate why the caveat for sl is "if exo is town then we put this guy on ice" but then he's second on the list. Why bother putting that caveat at all?? Surely it means he's town if the inverse is true and exo is mafia? But now we know exo is town this looks opportunistic as fuck.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 13:53 GMT
#1135
Maybe exo flipping green/blue bugs me to. Who writes blue as well?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 13:53 GMT
#1136
Too* fml
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 14:01 GMT
#1138
I hope the random shot includes themselves
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 14:24 GMT
#1141
?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 14:43 GMT
#1146
my excuse?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 14:45 GMT
#1150
we're not lynching anyone but kmart i'm afraid
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 14:46 GMT
#1152
and why is it bad to lynch kmart?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 14:47 GMT
#1154
On December 22 2016 23:46 sicklucker wrote:
0 posts by kmart since scum's nk didnt go through and he had 5 votes on him. but for some reason you guys decide to just release all that presure on a scum that probably gave up.

pretty unreal guys get those votes back on him


are you reading the same game?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 14:51 GMT
#1158
you're saying we're relieving pressure on him when literally the last page is me dumping pressure and scum reads on him
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 14:55 GMT
#1163
have you even fucking read the last page what the shit?

it's like 8 posts of me digging up shit on kmatt????????????????
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 14:56 GMT
#1164
perhaps the definition of last page was too much for you to comprehend

here you go:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/517122-liquidmania-qualifier-1?page=57
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 14:58 GMT
#1167
rels can you explain your progression on kmatt?

you go from don't understand what the shit he's talking about to liking everything he says and his wall of text to saying he's pretty natural looking to saying he's probably mafia with disfo for his end of day posts (I don't remember what your conclusion was when you read his scum game) to now ignoring him today and voting off a wagon in a majority lynch

what's your actual stance too?
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 22 2016 14:59 GMT
#1169
On December 22 2016 23:57 sicklucker wrote:
not really skimmed it you had few posts. all I care about is getting him killed. Lets be real tho yesterday all pressure was on him and you kind of put it on exo.

Im not calling you certain mafia im not voting you today. But holy fuck son im watchin you


are you for fucking real???????????????????????????????????? there was 0 pressur on kmatt and I wanted to switch to him while you afkd watching your shitty movie
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