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disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 00:34 GMT
#1019
Still pretty pissed over that comment.
So it will depend on my mood if I actually do the rereading and VCA stuff etc tomorrow.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 00:35 GMT
#1021
Thats how I play this game.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 00:44 GMT
#1027
On December 29 2016 09:35 disformation wrote:
Thats how I play this game.

well. EoD was super bad from me. I can agree to that.

will go to bed now.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 01:08 GMT
#1031
cause he had like 5 billion votes on him already and me being on an actual wagon is better for vca.

coming back to claim PR, didnt do that earlier cause I was pissed.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 12:27 GMT
#1099
On December 29 2016 09:32 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 09:16 beentheredonethat wrote:
disformation would you mind to replace out or get modkilled so we don't have to deal with useless shit like your last 40 minutes?

Unfortunately Shape will not replace me out of the game for that reason.

just realized. doesnt he basically call me 100% horrible town here and not even considers me to be scum? thats some sick tmi.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 12:30 GMT
#1101
/inthegamewithChez

but i got nuthin.
role says i cant get item from feast
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 12:34 GMT
#1102
On December 29 2016 11:15 Tictock wrote:
I'm looking at Gracks filter and he is super all over the place. It's really weird how he calls Koshi an easy lynch and then goes "yea I'll consolidate" after casing Koshi and being one of the main driving factors at the start of the wagon.

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 09:20 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 29 2016 04:14 Koshi wrote:
Try your bestest Grackie. I think it is possible.

Worth for this post.


This seems overly gloaty if Grack is scum though.

I dunno I should reread Grack in more detail. I think I would still easily lynch Dis/BtDt at this point before Grack. Honestly I kinda like having Grack in the game for how active he has been.

thats a very bad reason and you know it.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 12:39 GMT
#1103
On December 29 2016 20:29 beentheredonethat wrote:
Also, Alakaslam disappeared, even got warned. The whole "lynch the inactive" story line that some people seem to rely on died with the Koshi flip, why is that? Note how there was no counter wagon. This thread is currently being driven by mafia. ExO is driving this thread, Tictock, even darthfoley is. So there's most likely one mafia in them. Chez doing the drive-by posting but Chezinu is pretty much unreadable to me tbh.

disformation then again claims to have a bad scum game (correct me if I'm wrong) and what he's doing right now is either a bad town game or a bad scum game so I'm perfectly fine in lynching him. Grackaroni's EoD was a joke.


btdt confirmed not caring for my alignment.
i kinda hope he is just scum trying to tilt/ml me.

saving grace is him admitting that grack also had a horrible eod.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 12:40 GMT
#1104
errands time cu guys later
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 13:06 GMT
#1106
yeah and im saying i hope that makes him scum cause otherwise he is just an asshole and that would make me sad
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 13:41 GMT
#1108
Vote Count

Koshi (7) : ExO_, LightningStrike, Grackaroni, ExO_, beentheredonethat, Chezinu, disformation, beentheredonethat, darthfoley, GlowingBear, Grackaroni, disformation
Grackaroni (2) : Koshi, LightningStrike, disformation
LightningStrike (1) : Grackaroni, disformation, Grackaroni, darthfoley, Tictock
darthfoley (1) : Superbia
Superbia (1) : darthfoley, Time Traveler
Alakaslam (0) : ExO_, disformation
beentheredonethat (0) : Time Traveler, Tictock, disformation, ExO_
Chezinu (0) : GlowingBear
disformation (0) : Tictock, GlowingBear, disformation, beentheredonethat
ExO_ (0) : disformation, GlowingBear
Tictock (0) : ExO_, beentheredonethat

Not voting (1) : Alakaslam

General stuff first. We had a ML. So scum is probably on the mid - later levels of the Hoshi wagon. Note that since we only had really small wagons, this range starts at like the third voter. Given 3 scummers I'd say 1-2 scum are on the wagon. Leaning towards two, since a) Koshi is a good target to get rid off early. b) only real wagon.
Only doesnt work if scummers are super afk. possible. scum doesnt need to do much with this town.

There is also an error in the vote count: darthfoley was the third vote on Hoshi. He didnt do a ##unvote so him switching from LS to Hoshi wasnt counted.


Slam: No vote. Pretty NAI imo. Doesnt help him a lot combined with his filter.


Chezinu: Really weird. Comes in with:
On December 29 2016 08:35 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 08:28 disformation wrote:
chez who do we lynch?


I always say it is easier to lynch a stranger.. I already gave a nickname to Gracky though.. (Grack-Grack).. The Kosh-Kosh Hoshi is quite scary as mafia but useful as town..

I was thinking about ExO wondering if he was defending a teammate. I looked at votes it appears he is just vote hoping everywhere...

I like my time traveling theme names.. (time traveler, beentheredonethat, and tick tock.. etc)

Then ninja votes Koshi 5mins later.
On December 29 2016 08:40 Chezinu wrote:
##Vote Koshi

On December 29 2016 08:43 Chezinu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 08:41 disformation wrote:
I didnt know the house of brown was employing ninja voters?

Don't you know I invented the vote hopping mechanism!

Into a bit of waffly stuff:
On December 29 2016 08:48 Chezinu wrote:
Where are the mafia counter wagons?!?!?!

On December 29 2016 08:50 Chezinu wrote:
KOSHI SAVE THYSELF!!!

On December 29 2016 08:54 Chezinu wrote:
EXO defending Grack?!>! panics!

On December 29 2016 08:54 Chezinu wrote:
I R SCARES!!

Main problem is that I have no idea why he was voting Hoshi. For some reason him being waffly and lost looks somewaht genuine to me. Pointing out that tehre is no counter wagon is actually a good point. Lack of counter wagon should have warned us. Wish he did something about it though? So yeah again not that helpful.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 13:41 GMT
#1109
laundry now, will continue later
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 13:47 GMT
#1110
to add something to my chez thing:
chez plays for the themed in the themed game. Have him seen RP his role and be pretty anti town as town before.

Would love to explain the things I pointed out.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 14:06 GMT
#1115
I hope you got a vig shot and shoot me.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 14:07 GMT
#1116
or you are a cop and scum frames me. works too
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 14:08 GMT
#1117
and yes im pissed towards btdt so I scumread him
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 14:08 GMT
#1118
if i have a vig shot im still shooting grack over btdt
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 14:09 GMT
#1119
cause grack is probably actually scum
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 14:12 GMT
#1121
On December 29 2016 23:11 beentheredonethat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 21:34 disformation wrote:
On December 29 2016 11:15 Tictock wrote:
I'm looking at Gracks filter and he is super all over the place. It's really weird how he calls Koshi an easy lynch and then goes "yea I'll consolidate" after casing Koshi and being one of the main driving factors at the start of the wagon.

On December 29 2016 09:20 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 29 2016 04:14 Koshi wrote:
Try your bestest Grackie. I think it is possible.

Worth for this post.


This seems overly gloaty if Grack is scum though.

I dunno I should reread Grack in more detail. I think I would still easily lynch Dis/BtDt at this point before Grack. Honestly I kinda like having Grack in the game for how active he has been.

thats a very bad reason and you know it.

That's not a bad reason and you should know it Oo

It is a horrible reason.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
December 29 2016 14:25 GMT
#1123
Grack:
Push/Case on Koshi during the day. (triggered by koshi scumreading grack).
Then starts on LS around ~1h prior to DL:
On December 29 2016 07:36 Grackaroni wrote:
I'm souring on LS.

On December 29 2016 07:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like that first he was calling me scum for being Koshi's scum partner and now he's saying that I'm scum because my Koshi fight seems like it's between town and scum. Those are opposite reasons but I always seem to end up the lynch over Koshi.

On December 29 2016 07:43 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 07:40 darthfoley wrote:
I still find LS's Koshi v Grack analysis very very troubling and i'm nervous about it

On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing.


this post man??? Grack did a better job of pointing out the inconsistencies it assumes, but c'mon like what

What bothers me more is that while I think that's an acceptable post to see from LS, I can't see how Koshi would be able to call that post excellent.

On December 29 2016 07:47 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 07:45 LightningStrike wrote:
We not lynching ExO I think he's a paranoid town. He shown this in his last game.

This again is wtf level.

He made three reads at the start of the game. ExO seems townie. Koshi is mafia. Grack is mafia for deflecting off of Koshi.
Every post he has made since then has just been reiterating the exact same reads while changing around the reasoning behind them.

I don't think he can come up with his own reads. At this point I think we just kill LS.

On December 29 2016 08:00 Grackaroni wrote:
Can we lynch LS? I think he's more likely to be scum than Koshi. Koshi was just bothering me more.
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 07:38 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like that first he was calling me scum for being Koshi's scum partner and now he's saying that I'm scum because my Koshi fight seems like it's between town and scum. Those are opposite reasons but I always seem to end up the lynch over Koshi.

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 07:47 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 29 2016 07:45 LightningStrike wrote:
We not lynching ExO I think he's a paranoid town. He shown this in his last game.

This again is wtf level.

He made three reads at the start of the game. ExO seems townie. Koshi is mafia. Grack is mafia for deflecting off of Koshi.
Every post he has made since then has just been reiterating the exact same reads while changing around the reasoning behind them.

I don't think he can come up with his own reads. At this point I think we just kill LS.

Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 05:36 GlowingBear wrote:
I must say I'm disliking LS. I remember Tina saying something about him being more "mechanical" when he is Mafia?

##Vote: LS

Note the bolded in above post.
On December 29 2016 08:29 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 08:26 darthfoley wrote:
Grack, ExO: what do you guys think about going Koshi? I am most comfortable with LS or Koshi ATM.

I honestly think LS is the better lynch. But obviously I'm willing to switch to Koshi.

On December 29 2016 08:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 08:31 disformation wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:24 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:20 disformation wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:17 darthfoley wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:15 disformation wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:14 disformation wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:12 Grackaroni wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:12 disformation wrote:
On December 29 2016 08:08 darthfoley wrote:
[quote]


Yet you haven't tunneled anyone.

You also added onto Koshi's case on Grack with a bad point onto a case that was already bad. Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward.

I do not like this post.

I do.

should have specified: I dont mind the first sentence. I really do not like the second.

I should go to bed.
specifically i dislike the "Outside of that, I don't really know what you've done to push anyone or to push the game forward." because i feel it is not true at all



Yea okay you've now used three posts to tell us you don't like it. Why is it not true? Who/what has he pushed that have been original points?

On December 27 2016 12:11 LightningStrike wrote:
I going to put a vote on Koshi for right now because his opening was pure shit and not like any town opening I remember him doing.
##Vote: Koshi

On December 27 2016 12:15 LightningStrike wrote:
I also really liking ExO already too he trying to push a town agenda and get this game rolling off the bat.

On December 27 2016 14:05 LightningStrike wrote:
Tbh Grack's defense of Koshi is a little bit strange can't remember if he did the same thing regarding me in my very first game together. Anyways I think we should leave Slam alone and see what he does because one of the ways Geript had a good read on to Slam is if Slam does his own thing which would mean he would be town so I rather see what he does later.

On December 28 2016 06:27 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 28 2016 03:45 disformation wrote:
I like GB.
I like Koshi liking GB.
I dislike Koshi liking ExO_

but tbh Im just policy voting ExO_ :D

Pretty terrible policy vote tbh. I think he's more likely town than scum at this point and we shouldn't lynch him.

On December 28 2016 10:35 LightningStrike wrote:
Nothing really was going on and post game of the other game just started.
@Darth thoughts on Koshi?

On December 28 2016 11:04 LightningStrike wrote:
I too think Grack is potential mafia too due to how when I was hard pushing you Koshi earlier he kept trying to steer it away to Slam who we both know is harder to read based on pure pushing.


Really?

The original Koshi push was a follow up of ExO's push.

There's a bunch of duplicate town reads on ExO

And then 2 posts on my Koshi post that DF (and I) already addressed.

Now here's an experiment for you. Go through my filter just starting around page 5 or 6 and make a comparison.

I dont think LS filter will ever look like one of yours regardless of alignment.
If only based on the fact that he isnt posting as much.
But I think I feel actually better not lynching you.

That's a fair point. But I've definitely had games where I've gotten strong town feelings from LS before and this just isn't one of those for me.

On December 29 2016 08:50 Grackaroni wrote:
Killing Koshi was my primary goal for today but I don't feel all that great about the way it has happened lol.

On December 29 2016 08:57 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 29 2016 08:56 darthfoley wrote:
Why is Grack not voting Koshi after getting lots of us to vote Koshi?

I'm feeling nervous about how easily this lynch is happening when so many people were hard townreading Koshi when I started posting today.

On December 29 2016 08:58 Grackaroni wrote:
Anyway I'll consolidate.

TBH it is not as slam dunk as I did remember it.
But there are two things that stick out:
"Can we lynch LS? I think he's more likely to be scum than Koshi. Koshi was just bothering me more."
"Killing Koshi was my primary goal for today but I don't feel all that great about the way it has happened lol."

Primary goal for today doesnt sound town at all to me, but more like it was his mafia agenda for the day. And getting the guy lynched that was scumreading you, is a damn fine goal for scum.
And again if LS is more scummy, why was Koshi the primary goal? Just weird to state it like that as town.

The progression itself isnt that horrible. Picks up a bunch of points on LS, makes a small case wants him over koshi. Gets confused when suddenly everyone wants koshi. Though that confusing can him being knowing koshi will flip green and not knowing what the best position is here for him, cause that will have caught scum by surprise too.

So not as slam dunk as I thought, but it is still pretty bad.
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