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We need Grack AND Tictock to confirm this. I'm not sure what to make out of the whole thing. darthfoley was under pressure then admitted the mafia alignment but claims to not be mafia aligned anymore. Let's just say for a minute that what darthfoley says is true: We surmised that Superbia would be a good kill especially if he had a blue role, wouldn't really link back to me, and I was going to claim vigi misshot. I roleblocked Superbia in case he shot/checked me and got saved. Ticktock used his sleeping bag (according to him, one time jailkeep) on Chez so disformation wouldn't get the seed that would probably let him check Grack. Grack claims to have gotten medicine X. He also claims this medicine makes him show up as mafia, but that he hasn't drank it. Not sure if I believe him regarding the utility of his medicine. If Superbia was the kill of the 3 guys AND Chez was indeed in jail - then either mafia cannot kill OR Chez was the one who carried scum KP. As I have received the armour as a protective item and did not use it yet, chances are that Chez indeed tried to deliver KP. That's a huge if though. Next up: note how Tictock comes into the thread, claims to not have read up completely but he's already down to lynching me. Funny, as darthfoley (the guy who claims to be in a QT with Tictock) cased me. With a shit case. I will now dismiss that case. | ||
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So, i'll try to keep this succinct. Here are the original points I will summarize but don't need to show 1. btdt was super inactive all D1 2. mysteriously comes back when he is going to be the lynch, and only then, and gets the lynch off him WHILE successfully mislynching Koshi. Koshi On December 29 2016 08:21 beentheredonethat wrote: Oh c'mon. Yes, I confirmed 2 days ago. Then, I had christmas dinner with gf's family, spent a nice time with her, she went home to my place with me and we continued having a nice time. Nail me on that if you feel like it and don't believe that I genuinely forgot about this game, okay. But lynching into me is the easiest thing to do for scum at this point. Check my last town game and check my activity level there. I can and will contribute for town in the exact same way if you give me the chance to do so. There's no way I will catch up in the like what 30 minutes or so we have until deadline. Tictock, the whole reason behind you voting me is that my vote was randomly cast on you.I checked if there was a main wagon, there wasn't, so I voted randomly. More important even: as there seemingly aren't any clear wagons and town feels confident in lynching into afk/lurky players, I fear that mafia is currently in the driving seat of this game. Which leads my gut to Koshi who went under the radar pretty much ALWAYS when town was on the wrong track. I correctly read him as scum once already so I guess it's worth something. Koshi has 1 filter, compared to his last town game of D1 that's horrendous. Also note Time Traveler's vote on me and keep a close look on ANYONE that voted me early as I am right now a very low hanging fruit for mafia and lazy town alike. He firstly explains that there is no possible way he could accurately catch up. Within the same post, he advocates for Koshi's lynch strongly, appealing to the authority of his previous reads on Koshi-- Yes. 1. I have not read the game as I simply forgot about it. 2. I randomly opened some filters. 3. I saw Koshi had one page of filter. Easiest scumread given that I have a pretty good grip on Koshi's meta. Would anyone characterize Koshi's D1 play as being in the driving seat of the game? He intentionally made himself NOT in the driving seat, and it got him lynched. The first and second sentence contradict each other; Koshi did not go under the radar D1, he was talked about by ExO, me, Grack, Superbia, etc. You're trying to paint a contradiction. That would require that I actually had read the game which at this point, I had not done. I had no idea that Exo, you, whoever, talked about Koshi. Also, how could you know that Koshi INTENTIONALLY did not put himself into the driver's seat? On December 29 2016 08:38 beentheredonethat wrote: 1-page-Koshi feels bad and I think he's a very good lynch. On December 29 2016 08:39 beentheredonethat wrote: ##vote Koshi On December 29 2016 08:45 beentheredonethat wrote: Yes. I'm confident he'll flip scum. Really? You're confident? Within twenty minutes, BTDT went from randomly diving filters AND it being impossible for him to catch up, into confidently lynching Koshi-- not just any random player. Of course I am confident! I have hosted three games where Koshi rolled scum as well as town. I have played with him as scum and as town. Reading his one-page filter, I felt absolutely confident that this was scum!Koshi going under the radar. Note how at this point I still hadn't caught up. I mean, what do you expect me to do? I was happy to consolidate on a player I could judge instead of wasting my vote such as others (TiTr) did ALTHOUGH they had read the game. On December 29 2016 08:54 beentheredonethat wrote: Don't lynch LS over Koshi, really. That's nuts. Also whatever disfo's doing there it's plain bullshit ##vote Koshi "Don't lynch LS over Koshi-- that's nuts." Again he reroutes the lynch train onto Koshi, effectively stopping what Grack and I were trying to do (lynch LS > Koshi). I am not rerouting here. You took that out of context - context being that someone thought about lynching LS and I actively said "don't do that". Why did I say that? Easy - Koshi was inactive and playing to his scum meta, while LS had a filter of multiple pages and felt rather townie. Again, I skimmed. You can't really scumread me for saying wrong things  .On December 29 2016 09:14 beentheredonethat wrote: okay everyone who was eager to vote me and then voted koshi instead of not-voting slam needs to explain why also grack you're fine with a koshi train and not even trying to make the LS train happen although you'd rather have lynched him? great job disformation lynching koshi although being wishywashy as fuck and even being a crybaby that votes himself wow Then this??? Like seriously???? + Show Spoiler + What dee fak Why is that a scummy reaction? I was genuinely pissed, mainly towards disformation but also pissed about myself. I had strongly argued for a Koshi lynch and I might have done way better for town then I did D1 if only I had not forgotten about this game. I tried to play the game as good as I could and I was angry about failing at it. Also, I was even more pissed about disformation as I felt like his wishywashy playstyle was detrimental for town. On January 04 2017 22:56 beentheredonethat wrote: Like, all you state in that list is either not really alignment indicative or simply false. Observations are fine but I am missing conclusions here. Superbia died because of a half-assed claim that could very well be a protective role, even vet. In retrospective the claim was absolutely dumb. I didnt believe it tbh (oh i cared actually) but as confirmed town was killed and confirmed town scumread df early on, im perfectly fine with a df lynch. Yes, I was wrong on Koshi. So what, last game ai was fully right. Happens. It's one thing to be wrong about someone. Yea, that happens. It's another thing to wholeheartedly advocate for someone's death after not reading the entire game WHILE using your previous reads on him to bolster your argument I was not using any "previous reads" on Koshi. I don't know what you are referring to. I applied a solid meta read to Koshi and if you would just put in the effort to check Koshi's past games, you'd instantly see that he was playing 100% to his scum meta of "I chime in every now and then but besides that I stay under the radar and pretend to be lazy town". + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://images.memes.com/meme/674487) | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:04 darthfoley wrote: Also if House of Brown was a legit mafia team, I would've just vigi claimed D2 like we planned. I was thinking of something spicy, like, i'm a vigilante with a 50% success shoot rate (especially as an ode to Superbia's 50/50 bet with the Hosts). This is such a worthless sentence as there's no way to ever prove that. "If I was real scum, I would play totally different from how I played all game." Like, really? | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:09 darthfoley wrote: How did you know he was going under the radar if you hadn't read through the game? Yes. 1. I have not read the game as I simply forgot about it. 2. I randomly opened some filters. 3. I saw Koshi had one page of filter. Easiest scumread given that I have a pretty good grip on Koshi's meta. | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:08 darthfoley wrote: Yes really. The plan I laid out in my Poor Man's Confession is literally better in every single way than what I did. Of course it's WIFOM, but to make your point, you have to think i'm a fucking stupid mafia. If that's your argument, have at it hoss. Actually, it's not that WIFOM, thinking about it. Because you have two people who can confirm that plan (if you discussed that plan in QT). | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:06 darthfoley wrote: Yea so naturally you should be confident in your read and lynch me! Fool me once, shame on you... Fool me twice, shame on me I'm actually not really down to lynching you anymore. Puzzle pieces are moving and I think you're not scum (or, if you're scum, your dedicated as fuck). Still not sold completely but we're on a good way. | ||
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That leaves Slam and Time Traveller. | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:16 darthfoley wrote: I'm also more sus of Slam because I gave him this information last night and he did not do anything about it or change his playstyle "sus" as in suspicious? | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:17 darthfoley wrote: Yea. I sent him the message because I thought and maybe still think he's vigilante Okay.. wtf. | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:19 darthfoley wrote: "Dave's Cultsmen is a fictional character(s) in the vehicle action series Vigilante 8." I didn't even realize that this said "Vigilante". Makes sense. | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:23 Tictock wrote: This is part of why I want to lynch BtDt still. He seems to still not know what is happening in this game. You could maybe read my follow up post where I explain that | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:39 beentheredonethat wrote: You could maybe read my follow up post where I explain that Here: On January 04 2017 22:01 beentheredonethat wrote: Thats correct, too. So scratch chez from that list. That list is to be read as "im fine with them being removed from the game" and I should differentiate that list from "lets lynch xx today". I think darthfoley should be lynched, hence my vote there. On January 04 2017 22:02 beentheredonethat wrote: I suck at explaining. Dont lynch chez as there is a nuke - but im totally fine with the nuke potentially killing him. Or, you could continue to paint a fake picture. So maybe Tictock is the scum in the famous brown QT triangle? | ||
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On January 05 2017 05:59 disformation wrote: I dont particularly think btdt is scum. but I might need to look at him and tt. then how about you DO that instead of flailing the closer eod gets the more wishy washy you get -.- stop being polite and start playing | ||
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this game sucks. so low activity. | ||
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On January 05 2017 06:29 Grackaroni wrote: I still think ExO may be a good lynch. Between DF and Btdt I would lynch btdt mostly based off gut. I'll vouch for TT being a townie. I don't think he should ever be lynched this game. nah don't lynch darth, he's probably town. I've drawn my conclusions and I think he's town. | ||
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