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mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 29 2016 18:00 GMT
#8
/in
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 29 2016 18:18 GMT
#10
Well... as you will be my first host on TL... You will have to set the gold standard for this page. It is up to you to make TL shine...
No pressure, no pressure.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 30 2016 03:03 GMT
#24
On October 30 2016 12:02 cakepie wrote:
Don't you have another place to shitpost? Like the next 1k post quota to fill? =Þ

was this your first question in his ama? :D
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 30 2016 08:33 GMT
#28
On October 30 2016 12:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2016 12:03 mahrgell wrote:
On October 30 2016 12:02 cakepie wrote:
Don't you have another place to shitpost? Like the next 1k post quota to fill? =Þ

was this your first question in his ama? :D

Oh, snap, I remember you from the hockey thread.

How close do you follow the NHL from Deutschland? What's your favorite team?


I usually only watched my local home teams in the German 2nd/3rd div.
Then beginning of the year I was forced (by a Canadian from from the TL dominions group) to watch Habs games. You know, exactly that stretch of games where the Habs would only win if the game accidentally forgot to field enough players and never noticed during the entire game.
By now I watch basically 90% of all Habs games. Other games I watch by chance, whenever the Habs aren't playing and I'm bored. Well... plus reading NHL.com and whatever SN reports before and during Habs games :D
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 31 2016 13:01 GMT
#48
On October 31 2016 21:33 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 18:50 Foreman wrote:
On October 31 2016 09:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Sure. c: One more /in.

This is what is going to happen this game:

1. I will roll town.
2. Game starts; unoriginal players'll say "First confirmed town!"
3. One town will have a weird or even scummy entry.
4. Calix will tunnel said player. NeverUnlucky will have a good read on Calix based on the tunnel.
5. Said town will claim that the intent behind his entry was to stir up conversation.
6. Everyone will mock him and some will town-read him.
7. Active players’ll shitpost, lurkers’ll lurk.
8. One player will case another player who’ll become the main wagon, but the case is weak, thus :
9. People will initiate a CFD at EoD, and a town will die.


You clearly have an agenda.

FoS: NeverUnlucky

Actually, all he has done, is back himself in a corner with you if he is scum.

See number 4 states that he will have a good read on you, in the case that you tunnel. If no such read was to come, or a crappy one, then he would look less credible. Perhaps, you could argue that 6 could set up a possible scum read for him (if people keep scum reading him) but that is weak.

He also is forced in this to read the "One town with a weird entry" as town, due to wording. Which is bad for scum, as it knocks off a ML for day 1 at least.

In fact, the only way this benefits scum is if the person to make the weird entry is scum buddies, which is a high risk, low reward (a weak reason to TR at most) move IMO

The rest of it is unpredictable and useless, since it revolves on other players doing it.

Sorry, regaining my mafia mindset.

EDIT: He also would have to point out the case is weak too due to #8 and make reads accordly.


When NU wrote in #4 about "good read" all he meant was "start a 20 page shouting duel with Calix, with both calling each other names, so that all other players get dazed and just want to hide from the thread".
Which in the end always benefits scum. Having them in the same game seems to always benefit scum, no matter which roles they roll. #prayforrollingscum #scumOP
The problem with that meta is, that they both have to hold this up, as this is their typical townie meta. If they were not yelling at each other, this would strongly hint at them being scum.


mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 31 2016 13:46 GMT
#51
On October 31 2016 22:43 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2016 22:01 mahrgell wrote:
On October 31 2016 21:33 Shapelog wrote:
On October 31 2016 18:50 Foreman wrote:
On October 31 2016 09:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Sure. c: One more /in.

This is what is going to happen this game:

1. I will roll town.
2. Game starts; unoriginal players'll say "First confirmed town!"
3. One town will have a weird or even scummy entry.
4. Calix will tunnel said player. NeverUnlucky will have a good read on Calix based on the tunnel.
5. Said town will claim that the intent behind his entry was to stir up conversation.
6. Everyone will mock him and some will town-read him.
7. Active players’ll shitpost, lurkers’ll lurk.
8. One player will case another player who’ll become the main wagon, but the case is weak, thus :
9. People will initiate a CFD at EoD, and a town will die.


You clearly have an agenda.

FoS: NeverUnlucky

Actually, all he has done, is back himself in a corner with you if he is scum.

See number 4 states that he will have a good read on you, in the case that you tunnel. If no such read was to come, or a crappy one, then he would look less credible. Perhaps, you could argue that 6 could set up a possible scum read for him (if people keep scum reading him) but that is weak.

He also is forced in this to read the "One town with a weird entry" as town, due to wording. Which is bad for scum, as it knocks off a ML for day 1 at least.

In fact, the only way this benefits scum is if the person to make the weird entry is scum buddies, which is a high risk, low reward (a weak reason to TR at most) move IMO

The rest of it is unpredictable and useless, since it revolves on other players doing it.

Sorry, regaining my mafia mindset.

EDIT: He also would have to point out the case is weak too due to #8 and make reads accordly.


When NU wrote in #4 about "good read" all he meant was "start a 20 page shouting duel with Calix, with both calling each other names, so that all other players get dazed and just want to hide from the thread".
Which in the end always benefits scum. Having them in the same game seems to always benefit scum, no matter which roles they roll. #prayforrollingscum #scumOP
The problem with that meta is, that they both have to hold this up, as this is their typical townie meta. If they were not yelling at each other, this would strongly hint at them being scum.



How do you know all of this? o.o

You are a legend, Sir.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 31 2016 16:38 GMT
#59
Calix and NU are a wonderful couple of diametral opposites:

On October 31 2016 23:25 Calix wrote:
I suspect that mahrgell decided to read previous games in order to get a feel for the players he would be in the game with.

Sadly this probably means that I'm going to be deluged with shitty and inaccurate meta reads


First line (suspection) completely wrong, but second line (let's call it conclusion) completely is a true/good/honest statement.

On October 31 2016 23:41 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Me thinks Margey was following Cruise Trip all along. Only you are tryhard enough to read past games in the pre-game.

Day 1 we sheep or kill margey.



First line (suspection) correct, but second line (conclusion) terrible!


mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 31 2016 16:48 GMT
#64
I think you are both scum.
First of all it is obvious you are trying to distance from each other, in an almost unnatural rough way.
Second you both consider me a noob, so NU wants to direct the lynch on an easy target. Meanwhile Calix wants to suck up on a noob for easy towncred to profit from it in a lylo situation. Both are typical scumplays in the early!

Now you both should be lynched... And for order, there is an easy tiebreaker.... NU writes my name wrong, so he has to go first.
##Vote NeverUnlucky


+ Show Spoiler +
I'm just practicing. This is like pregame warmup.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 31 2016 16:54 GMT
#69
Am I your couple therapist or what? You seem to be married for at least 50 years. I'm sorry, but it is too late to fix that.

Also don't take me too serious in pregame. (Obv. you should buy everything I say once game has started.)
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 31 2016 16:55 GMT
#71
On November 01 2016 01:52 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2016 01:48 mahrgell wrote:
I think you are both scum.
First of all it is obvious you are trying to distance from each other, in an almost unnatural rough way.
Second you both consider me a noob, so NU wants to direct the lynch on an easy target. Meanwhile Calix wants to suck up on a noob for easy towncred to profit from it in a lylo situation. Both are typical scumplays in the early!

Now you both should be lynched... And for order, there is an easy tiebreaker.... NU writes my name wrong, so he has to go first.
##Vote NeverUnlucky


+ Show Spoiler +
I'm just practicing. This is like pregame warmup.


You sound like you come from MS. That's my theory anyway


I come from the real world And this is pretty universal.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
October 31 2016 16:58 GMT
#74
On November 01 2016 01:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I already very much like marghell.


Now you suck up to me too.... Suspicious. But you still misspelt my name.
so everybody on board of the NU-wagon! Lynch him!
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 01 2016 11:20 GMT
#89
##WatchWarmly
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 02 2016 11:59 GMT
#112
This will be a silent game. Nobody posting anything besides votes, everyone already prepped their afk excuse.
That's the advantage in RL mafia... YOU CANT HIDE!
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 02 2016 18:02 GMT
#126
First confirmed town!

+ Show Spoiler +
NU said, this should be done first. Blame him.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 02 2016 18:28 GMT
#153
On November 03 2016 03:17 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 03:11 ExO_ wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:06 ExO_ wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:04 Calix wrote:
NU's boring. Nothing new to see there.

ExO, should I be asking why you're not 'largely communicating in gifs'? Don't get me wrong, I'm glad you're not, but I'm curious as to what made you change your mind.


[image loading]


So if you ARE mainly communicating in gifs then why claim a role first thing before doing that? Seems illogical for town to do.


You think it's illogical for me to immediate claim VT before posting a gif?

Give me a break. If anything your attempt to get me to revert to gif posting only and now trying to throw shade on me is indicative of your scum alignment

Why so defensive, mate? :<

"Give me a break" after two trivial questions is much of an over-exaggeration, mang.

mahrgell (spelled your name right), what do you make of Exo and Calix's lil" chit chat so far? c:

1) I'm very proud you got my name correct this time. Maybe we delay your lynch a few days!

2) Calix: Looked to me like an "let's start the game" thing, I don't share Exo's interpretation that Calix wanted to silence him. This does not tell anything about Calix though. Could be fake activity, considering that those pathetically weak early attempts rarely lead to much information, could also honest interest in starting something. So nothing here.

3) Exo: his retaliation seemed... weird. I don't see a point there. I guess I could consider it something meta'ish that you blindly accuse everyone day1 to be mafia to "apply pressure and get things going". So either minor scumlean or just some broken metashit.

4) conclusion: I consider it for now as TvT, if it is MvT I would lean more in facor of Calix being the townie, I doubt it is MvM, but well... people can prep the most stupid shit before the game... Let's wait and see


PS: if anyone is not a he and wants to be called a she... tell me... Otherwise I use internet rule #1 and consider everyone a male.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 02 2016 18:29 GMT
#157
On November 03 2016 03:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:
mahrgell, we've seen you make an entry in the thread. Do you have any comment to make or are you frozen? :3


Sorry bro, I just write slowly :D
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 02 2016 18:54 GMT
#172
On November 03 2016 03:30 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 03:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:26 Calix wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:23 Calix wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:21 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Haiii guises, let us keep this atmosphere positive!

I agree with Mr. Foreman and Mr. ExO that Calix's push is not her greatest, and I also agree with Calix that ExO's defensive response looks scummy!

Foreman, may I ask you where you are coming from in terms of community? c:


I'm not pushing ExO. That's being extremely generous.

I never claimed that ExO was scummy, just illogical. I didn't even call him defensive. Where did you get that from?

I said that.


Your quote says "I agree WITH CALIX" which implies that I said "ExO being defensive is scummy" at some point.

Clarify this now, please.

I actually don't agree with the points you've made. ExO's defensive, that's as much as one can say on his subject.

Offski.


I for one do not like NU. His tone seems weird, he makes statements that are factually inaccurate/ putting words into my mouth and then retracts them when called out on them. I don't understand why.

Given that he's just disappeared, I'll wait for a response before concluding anything for sure but he's giving me bad vibes at the moment.


Well
1) I share NU's interpretation of what happened.
2) I appreciate his call for civil communication, from what I read in Cruisetrip he could have also easily heated up the fire without it looking worse than his usual play.
3) But I also agree with you, that it is weird for him to "buddy" you, by pretending you were sharing his self made points. I don't think there is much reason for him to try to appease you.
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 02 2016 18:59 GMT
#173
@Exo
so, you are sticking with Calix as your prime scumcandidate?
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 02 2016 19:01 GMT
#176
@Foreman
Now that you noticed your misread. Are you still going after Calix, or have you shifted your focus on NU?
Would the argument you made for Calix also apply to NU? Or where do you see the difference there?
mahrgell
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany3943 Posts
November 02 2016 19:09 GMT
#179
On November 03 2016 04:01 Calix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2016 03:54 mahrgell wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:30 Calix wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:26 Calix wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:23 Calix wrote:
On November 03 2016 03:21 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Haiii guises, let us keep this atmosphere positive!

I agree with Mr. Foreman and Mr. ExO that Calix's push is not her greatest, and I also agree with Calix that ExO's defensive response looks scummy!

Foreman, may I ask you where you are coming from in terms of community? c:


I'm not pushing ExO. That's being extremely generous.

I never claimed that ExO was scummy, just illogical. I didn't even call him defensive. Where did you get that from?

I said that.


Your quote says "I agree WITH CALIX" which implies that I said "ExO being defensive is scummy" at some point.

Clarify this now, please.

I actually don't agree with the points you've made. ExO's defensive, that's as much as one can say on his subject.

Offski.


I for one do not like NU. His tone seems weird, he makes statements that are factually inaccurate/ putting words into my mouth and then retracts them when called out on them. I don't understand why.

Given that he's just disappeared, I'll wait for a response before concluding anything for sure but he's giving me bad vibes at the moment.


Well
1) I share NU's interpretation of what happened.
2) I appreciate his call for civil communication, from what I read in Cruisetrip he could have also easily heated up the fire without it looking worse than his usual play.
3) But I also agree with you, that it is weird for him to "buddy" you, by pretending you were sharing his self made points. I don't think there is much reason for him to try to appease you.

+ Show Spoiler +

With regards to Point 2, he is much tamer when he is scum. I'm not claiming that this is a 100% guaranteed tell (he is also busy and this has led to him being more subdued in the past) but it's in the back of my mind.

Well in my opinion, this is how it went down:

- He asks why ExO is being overly defensive.
- I call ExO anti-town.
- He misrepresented my positions by claiming that he agreed that I was a) scum-reading ExO and b) scum-reading ExO due to being overly defensive.
- I ask him where he interpreted this from as those are not my positions.
- He denies claiming this.
- I tell him that he literally said in his quote "I agree with Calix"

This is where the scummy part is. He immediately backtracks from that position by saying "well I don't agree" and leaves it at that.

That's scummy because this progression could be NU trying to plant ideas inside of my head without actually taking responsibility for having the idea.

This is a compelling explanation because the ExO/ Calix discussion was still going on at this time. Thus, it's possible that he was trying to manipulate me into agreeing that ExO's behaviour is scummy.

It's also possible because I am well-known for getting myself into tunnels so I am a viable target.

So yeah, discuss and all that.


Yes, this is pretty much my 3). I fully agree with you here.

Also he started voting Exo. Now of course he will most likely tell us, that he pregame announced he was PL'ing gifs. But that is just the same category as the usual "totally busy, won't post" pregame crap... Nice excuse if you roll mafia, and who cares if you don't do it and roll town.
From a townie I would expect a calmer attitude instead of throwing votes on someone who posted one textpost and one gif.
He could have easily stayed on Exo and push that lynch, if there is some movement. Or he could stay there, if he doesn't want to vote a scumbuddy... Or he could just switch as easy....

Overall... Not liking it.
But let's wait for NU to explain himself.
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