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On November 04 2016 07:43 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 07:39 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 04 2016 07:35 Rels wrote:On November 04 2016 03:44 Calix wrote:On November 04 2016 03:35 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 03:05 darthfoley wrote:
Best scum team 2k16 NU Calix Nah... One perhaps but not both. I'm leaning TvT, personally. I'd expect scum to be more laid back and just pushing back enough to get out of the public eye. I know I said I'd ignore him but I feel like I should chip in here. He's probably town purely for being this unpleasant and obsessive. But I feel like that should be noted. However I don't like it and I'm not going to respond to his posts. If he keeps doing it then I'm going to the hosts. Maybe I'm just biased, but I don't feel like I did anything that warrants being called trash and being threatened with "making Calix's experience in the game hell until she does X". All I did was make a case against him which he overreacted to. He's only like this around me and honestly, I am so fucking sick and tired of it. All we did last game was bicker and argue and shit-post and it ruined the game. I want to change and then he goes and throws a temper tantrum. I'm here for a quiet game. I just don't have the time or energy to deal with him and I don't think I should have to when he's acting like this. I hope I've explained myself enough and would like to think that his reaction to me shows why I feel this way. LOL Calix you are becoming lock town to me. Each post you make saying you hate trying to break to rule makes you more and more unlikely to have posted the bolded as scum. I agree with the conclusion, don't understand the explanation. Basically I think she would think it would be dirty to lie about something host-related. So with her attitude, it is 99% the truth that she was fed up with you and almost ready to PM the hosts. And it's way more likely than she's this angry as town than as scum, 'cause as scum you are actually her best friend; townreading her and shitting up the thread at the same time; she would have no reason to be angry at you.
I understand where you're coming from. However, the part you bolded was taken out of context. She said that should would take my toxicity to the hosts.
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On November 04 2016 07:54 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 07:46 darthfoley wrote:
I can answer the Skynx stuff when I'm not in a movie for class, but I'm putting my vote on mahrgell.
He STILL hasn't said anything conclusive or definitive. He keeps asking the same things to the same people to stall and buy time. He's also using the OMGIS first game defense now. I remember my first forum game (This is my fourth) and I rolled scum. I play a ton of IRL mafia and I'm pretty good at it, but I was terrible with trying to forge reads as scum G1. I can't remember the title of the game but it was on TL.
I see a lot of parallels between my playstyle that game, and his play style in this game. Outside of this, I've already written content on my mahrgell scum read. Look through my filter if you want a refresher. Also find it interesting that he peaches out with all his reads for family time, then as soon as I put heat on him, he finds the time to go semi filter diving and engage with people again.
##Vote: mahrgell I've read the game that you're referring to: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/501039-unoriginal-name-mini-mafiaI was looking for it for a while to compare your play, actually 
Is it somewhat similar to his play here?
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On November 04 2016 08:18 ExO_ wrote:reason?
yes
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I do not think like you are trying to go somewhere, I cannot see much progression in your interactions with others (ie static reads other than the 180 on Calix) and your whole "I was tunneling Calix to reaction-test those who would pressure low hanging fruit" narrative looks really phony and unsincere.
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On November 04 2016 08:26 mahrgell wrote:
Okay, finished reading up on Exo.
##Vote Exo_
Writing up my reasoning in a bit.
So far I have 2 more players on my todo pile: DF and Skynx. I will probably try to squeeze those in some time after sleeping and between family ^.^
Would you kindly summarize what your reads now look like?
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On November 04 2016 08:42 ExO_ wrote:
NU is actively borrowing his reads for rels in an attempt to push me, with Marhgwell being 3rd on a wagon.
Marhgwell is scum, and probably NU
A) How would sheeping Rels' reads make me scum?
B) Fact-check of borrowing my read on you from Rels:
Rels' posts that apply to a scum-read:
+ Show Spoiler +On November 04 2016 07:21 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 07:17 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 07:11 Rels wrote:On November 03 2016 15:11 ExO_ wrote:
I'm tired. I just got home. I don't feel like reading through the read. But I'll tell you my thoughts in a nutshell from the point I left.
I jumped on to Calix initially and continued to pressure him(her?) long after I thought she was scum. I do think the way he entered the thread was dumb and likely to inflame me. But his responses afterwards seemed very much from a towny perspective. I continued the pressure to see who would jump on the bandwagon with me in an attempt to press low hanging fruit.
I'll look at it tomorrow, but NeverUnlucky/foreman are both going to be the first people I look at. BTW this looks fabricated too. Did you get anything out of it ? Not particularly. I'll be honest I didn't go back and read. It had been 18+ hours by the time I woke up today and I didn't feel like going back through it. Fabricated though? please. And this ? Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 07:08 Rels wrote:On November 04 2016 07:05 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:52 Rels wrote:On November 04 2016 06:44 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 04 2016 06:37 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 04 2016 06:34 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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Who's not reading the game now?
Are you serious? lol. Show me where Calix is tunneling, and not actively considering all reads and possibilities. Give me a break Pointless argument, dismissed. If you're going to acuse Calix of tunneling, you better be able to back it up. Calix you Town reading NU? because if you're scum reading him I think he might be a decent lynch today Yes, I am able to back it up, but this argument is not productive. I am trying to focus on important stuff for once in hopes that my coach still has a little faith in me. And why would I be a decent lynch? Your entry into the thread, and subsequent posts look scummy to me. You've actively distracted town, and made posts to toot your own horn (like the one a few posts up). Is this from memory or did you reread his filter ? BTW what's your read on foreman ? lean town, but im annoyed with him and his inability to read the thread On November 04 2016 07:05 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:52 Rels wrote:On November 04 2016 06:44 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 04 2016 06:37 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 04 2016 06:34 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:32 NeverUnlucky wrote:
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Who's not reading the game now?
Are you serious? lol. Show me where Calix is tunneling, and not actively considering all reads and possibilities. Give me a break Pointless argument, dismissed. If you're going to acuse Calix of tunneling, you better be able to back it up. Calix you Town reading NU? because if you're scum reading him I think he might be a decent lynch today Yes, I am able to back it up, but this argument is not productive. I am trying to focus on important stuff for once in hopes that my coach still has a little faith in me. And why would I be a decent lynch? Your entry into the thread, and subsequent posts look scummy to me. You've actively distracted town, and made posts to toot your own horn (like the one a few posts up). Is this from memory or did you reread his filter ? BTW what's your read on foreman ? From memory If Foreman is a townlean, why did you consider rereading his filter a priority in your last post yesterday ? Here: On November 03 2016 15:11 ExO_ wrote:
I'm tired. I just got home. I don't feel like reading through the read. But I'll tell you my thoughts in a nutshell from the point I left.
I jumped on to Calix initially and continued to pressure him(her?) long after I thought she was scum. I do think the way he entered the thread was dumb and likely to inflame me. But his responses afterwards seemed very much from a towny perspective. I continued the pressure to see who would jump on the bandwagon with me in an attempt to press low hanging fruit.
I'll look at it tomorrow, but NeverUnlucky/foreman are both going to be the first people I look at. And why didn't you reread NU filter and read TT's instead ? On November 04 2016 07:11 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 15:11 ExO_ wrote:
I'm tired. I just got home. I don't feel like reading through the read. But I'll tell you my thoughts in a nutshell from the point I left.
I jumped on to Calix initially and continued to pressure him(her?) long after I thought she was scum. I do think the way he entered the thread was dumb and likely to inflame me. But his responses afterwards seemed very much from a towny perspective. I continued the pressure to see who would jump on the bandwagon with me in an attempt to press low hanging fruit.
I'll look at it tomorrow, but NeverUnlucky/foreman are both going to be the first people I look at. BTW this looks fabricated too. Did you get anything out of it ?
My reasoning to sr you:
On November 04 2016 08:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I do not think like you are trying to go somewhere, I cannot see much progression in your interactions with others (ie static reads other than the 180 on Calix) and your whole "I was tunneling Calix to reaction-test those who would pressure low hanging fruit" narrative looks really phony and unsincere.
The only common ground is that part where you say that you were reaction-testing.
Plus, Rels did not state a *clear* scum-read on you, so how can I be sheeping him?+ Show Spoiler + On November 04 2016 07:36 Rels wrote:
ExO, the only thing that keeps me from tunneling you into oblivion is your explanation of the VT thing. Please answer me about why your foreman read changed without reason between now and yesterday
We rate this claim false.
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He never concluded you were not scum for it.
On November 04 2016 07:36 Rels wrote:
ExO, the only thing that keeps me from tunneling you into oblivion is your explanation of the VT thing. Please answer me about why your foreman read changed without reason between now and yesterday
This looks as though he actually thinks you are scum for it, but doesn't exactly scum-read you because of your VT claim and explanation.
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On November 04 2016 08:55 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 08:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I do not think like you are trying to go somewhere, I cannot see much progression in your interactions with others (ie static reads other than the 180 on Calix) and your whole "I was tunneling Calix to reaction-test those who would pressure low hanging fruit" narrative looks really phony and unsincere. Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 07:11 Rels wrote:On November 03 2016 15:11 ExO_ wrote:
I'm tired. I just got home. I don't feel like reading through the read. But I'll tell you my thoughts in a nutshell from the point I left.
I jumped on to Calix initially and continued to pressure him(her?) long after I thought she was scum. I do think the way he entered the thread was dumb and likely to inflame me. But his responses afterwards seemed very much from a towny perspective. I continued the pressure to see who would jump on the bandwagon with me in an attempt to press low hanging fruit.
I'll look at it tomorrow, but NeverUnlucky/foreman are both going to be the first people I look at. BTW this looks fabricated too. Did you get anything out of it ? Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 07:52 Rels wrote:On November 04 2016 07:47 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 07:45 Rels wrote:On November 04 2016 07:42 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 07:36 Rels wrote:
ExO, the only thing that keeps me from tunneling you into oblivion is your explanation of the VT thing. Please answer me about why your foreman read changed without reason between now and yesterday because if I was scum and foreman, I wouldn't be half-assing it like he is. I check to make sure what I'm posting lines up with everything else posted so far. If he's scum and not reading something he's directly posting about then it's poor scum play imo. The tone of his posts comes across as lazy half-assing towny rather than scummy to me No I mean, why were you considering him so important in that post 16 hours so it made you say "I'll look at it tomorrow, but NeverUnlucky/foreman are both going to be the first people I look at." ? He and NU both jumped on my Calix shit at the start of the game OK it makes sense then
THe "OK it makes sense then" is taken out of context, lmao. Nice try.
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Historically speaking, TT questioning ExO's VT claim would make him mafia.
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On November 04 2016 08:56 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 08:56 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 04 2016 08:55 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 08:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I do not think like you are trying to go somewhere, I cannot see much progression in your interactions with others (ie static reads other than the 180 on Calix) and your whole "I was tunneling Calix to reaction-test those who would pressure low hanging fruit" narrative looks really phony and unsincere. On November 04 2016 07:11 Rels wrote:On November 03 2016 15:11 ExO_ wrote:
I'm tired. I just got home. I don't feel like reading through the read. But I'll tell you my thoughts in a nutshell from the point I left.
I jumped on to Calix initially and continued to pressure him(her?) long after I thought she was scum. I do think the way he entered the thread was dumb and likely to inflame me. But his responses afterwards seemed very much from a towny perspective. I continued the pressure to see who would jump on the bandwagon with me in an attempt to press low hanging fruit.
I'll look at it tomorrow, but NeverUnlucky/foreman are both going to be the first people I look at. BTW this looks fabricated too. Did you get anything out of it ? On November 04 2016 07:52 Rels wrote:On November 04 2016 07:47 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 07:45 Rels wrote:On November 04 2016 07:42 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 07:36 Rels wrote:
ExO, the only thing that keeps me from tunneling you into oblivion is your explanation of the VT thing. Please answer me about why your foreman read changed without reason between now and yesterday because if I was scum and foreman, I wouldn't be half-assing it like he is. I check to make sure what I'm posting lines up with everything else posted so far. If he's scum and not reading something he's directly posting about then it's poor scum play imo. The tone of his posts comes across as lazy half-assing towny rather than scummy to me No I mean, why were you considering him so important in that post 16 hours so it made you say "I'll look at it tomorrow, but NeverUnlucky/foreman are both going to be the first people I look at." ? He and NU both jumped on my Calix shit at the start of the game OK it makes sense then THe "OK it makes sense then" is taken out of context, lmao. Nice try. How is it taken out of context? The quote chain is LITERALLY right there with all of the context
THe first quote is about him saying your narrative looks fabricated, the second quote is him saying it makes sense that you were looking into Foreman and I.
Out of context. :3
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On November 04 2016 08:58 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 08:57 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Historically speaking, TT questioning ExO's VT claim would make him mafia. why?
On November 04 2016 08:58 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 08:57 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Historically speaking, TT questioning ExO's VT claim would make him mafia. Please elaborate. (what the hell does 'historically speaking' even mean in this context?)
The story takes place between 2009 and 2016. A guy named Kenpachi played forum mafia on TL. He was notorious for claiming VT, and people who pushed him for his claim were always mafia.
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On November 04 2016 09:01 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 08:59 mahrgell wrote:Exo: 1)my original post about Exo: http://www.liquiddota.com/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=26146963Nothing I said there really changed, even with the newer posts. Honestly while he always calls other ppl to read the tread, his posts don't really strike me as if he had read the thread so far. I guess I have to honorary mention that at least he doesn't ask for summaries all the time. Great upgrade. 2) On November 03 2016 04:46 ExO_ wrote:On November 03 2016 04:44 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:40 mahrgell wrote:On November 03 2016 04:35 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 04:32 mahrgell wrote:gosh Calix, can we please stop post synced? Also after what I read from you last game I'm afraid of myself, if I share your thoughts... I don't want to be like you  Sorry. It's ironic because you're insinuating that I am a bad player...but I'm pretty sure that you misinterpreted what Foreman said. He was calling me scum, not you. I am aware that he is only going after you. But as I share your concern regarding NU... And would like the same answer to be answered... He refuses to answer me, because he considers you to be scum. I don't agree on the policy of "I don't talk to who I consider scum". I consider this antitown, but I understand interpretations on this may differ. But I really dislike the policy of "I don't talk to you, because a player I consider to be scum shared your concerns". This is for sure antitown. So either he considers me scum too, or he is just antitown. Both conclusions are not really giving him any plus points in my book. It is extremely anti-town to ignore anyone save for red-checked players or the like. It shows that he is not willing to reconsider his reads and will be prone to tunnel-vision. (this is something I am specifically trying to avoid) I remain uncertain on Foreman. I'm inclined to scum-read him purely for his pathetic dismissal of my NU case (aka the most substantial post made this game) but I'm biased there as I think my case is pretty good. Furthermore, some of his posts have minor town-tells in them. (nothing convincing though) Concluding null as it stands. How can you be so hesitant to scum read anyone? All of your reads come built in with "but I might be wrong." You back pedal on everything you've said so far and leave yourself a way out. Almost as if you are afraid to hard scum read somebody because you know you are lying. I'm quite convinced you are scum leaving yourself as many outs as possible. Okay. I can follow this idea. But... How on earth have you not gone after me? So far pretty much everyone in the thread confirms me as the "King of leaving outs". Even I do that. And yet, you haven't once mentioned me? Seriously? I should be your topscum. At this point, if it wasn't about me, I would actually call you out for distancing. In fact i'm surprised nobody did that yet. 3) On November 04 2016 04:30 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 04:18 Calix wrote:
Reasoning? I didn't like his filter and trust skynx Again, are you serious? You come back in the thread, after 13 hours, and all you do to start is an uncommented vote, and when asked this is your reason this is everything? I mean... at least whine about not having time, etc. But all you had to say on those 180 posts that happened in the meantime was that. Stunning! Actually you promised to look into NU and FM first in your last post before the break. You engaged FM later, but all you did was telling him to learn to read. There was no analysis of him whatsoever. Similarly you also tangled with NU, starting with this post: On November 04 2016 06:30 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:27 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 04 2016 06:11 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.
His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think) Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around. What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it. Starting a discussion is EXACTLY what town wants to do. And its exactly what I did. Implying that I wouldn't do that is town is at best misleading. What I did drew a lot of attention to me, you really think thats what I would do as scum? Instead of posting a few gifs and joking around a bit? please. Lynch TT its so obvious at this point On October 31 2016 09:24 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Sure. c: One more /in.
This is what is going to happen this game:
1. I will roll town.
2. Game starts; unoriginal players'll say "First confirmed town!"
3. One town will have a weird or even scummy entry.
4. Calix will tunnel said player. NeverUnlucky will have a good read on Calix based on the tunnel.
5. Said town will claim that the intent behind his entry was to stir up conversation.
6. Everyone will mock him and some will town-read him.
7. Active players’ll shitpost, lurkers’ll lurk.
8. One player will case another player who’ll become the main wagon, but the case is weak, thus :
9. People will initiate a CFD at EoD, and a town will die.
1 to 7, check. 8 and 9 to go. Calix hasn't tunneled anyone. You're full of shit Again not what I would call an analysis. You later gave some weak reads on NUs latest posts, but the "I will look into NU" results posts is still to be seen. 4) Your obsession about your VT claim. Your entire defense seems to be "but I claimed VT" I still can't make sense of it. The way you present it here, claiming VT is the ultimative move early day1. Everyone should do it, and nobody doing it should ever be lynched day1 except by scum players. I'm not buying it. And honestly you can't believe that yourself. Either you completely lack the ability to imagine how others may view the game, or this is just some horrible play. And you repeating it again and again doesnt make it better. If you want to convince me... Try another approach. I'm open to arguments, but that VT bullshit is really tiring me and your obsession with it is making you look more scummy in my eyes. I read your town game. You did much better there. If you are town this game, you are awful. I don't think you are awful from what I've seen, but just feel reminded of your rather similar dota2 scum performance. You are wrong. And this is exactly what I think scum will do. Lynch me, and then say "It was his own horrible play". If I die today take a close look at Mahgrell (I'm looking mostly at you calix as you seem the most level-headed person here)
Wasn't she a low hanging fruit before?
As Foreman pointed out, if you are town, scum is unlikely to push you this hard for one ML. Not everyone who pushes you is scum (4 votes on you rn if I can count) (if any).
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On November 04 2016 09:06 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 09:04 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 08:59 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 08:58 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 08:55 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 08:53 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 08:51 ExO_ wrote:On November 04 2016 08:48 Foreman wrote:On November 04 2016 08:42 ExO_ wrote:
NU is actively borrowing his reads for rels in an attempt to push me, with Marhgwell being 3rd on a wagon.
Marhgwell is scum, and probably NU I disagree with both of your scumreads. Mahrgell's flip on me looked like an honest reassessment. If he was scum, he could have accused me of AtE and used my reach out as grounds to double down on me. NU... I don't get why you think he's scum. What do you think of Mahgrell voting me without giving his reasoning just now? What about NU literally taking the words out of rels mouth as a reason to push me, even though rels didn't see it as a reason to scum read me. foreman read the damn thread. And do something to help town. What did this post accomplish here? What did you disagreeing with me (in a bad way) accomplish? N O T H I N G My bad, let me be more productive, then. ##Vote: ExO_ for what reason? Why do you think I'm scum? You're flat out lying about me and attempting to intimidate me, for one thing. For another, your scumreads are trash and consist of two people pushing you. Because y'know, the entire scum team is going to throw everything they have into a d1 mislynch. how exactly am I lying about you? or attempting to intimidate you? Aren't you supposed to be mr.coldnotaffectedbyonlinepersonalities guy No, I'm Mr. Distantandunintentionallytreatpeoplelikepixelsuntiligettoknowthem guy. You are lying about me doing nothing in my disagreement with you. Before you say you weren't, be a pal and quote where i stated my thoughts on Mahrgell's flip prior to that post. Otherwise, admit that you were simply trying to intimidate me into thinking I was being worthless. ...what? are you delusional? Like legitimately are you delusional? Nothing I've done has been even close to intimidation. And nothing I've done has even been close to lying. You're literally bordering on actually being delusional
This post is a bit funny and is true.
I don't understand how FM would interpret ExO's "you're doing nothing" as intimidation.
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On November 04 2016 09:09 Calix wrote:
Also I think we have way too many people pressuring ExO. That's bad because ExO's going to get stressed out sooner or later, so then he'll lash out and that looks scummy so then people keep piling on.
So I propose that we let up a little bit so that he can actually post something constructive. I think the wagon on him lets him know well enough that he's going to die if he doesn't step it up so constantly pushing him like this is just inhibiting his potential to do anything else imo.
Invitation accepted.
What do you think of the Kenpachi rule?
The logic behind it is that claiming VT has no scum nor town motivation. Scum is likely going to push for that claim since it is easy to do, and they may look like they are being productive.
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I should rather ask: Do you think TT is scum in agreement to the Kenpachi rule?
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On November 04 2016 09:16 ExO_ wrote:
Darthfoley/Skynk have the shortest filters and might be good places to look as well. Going off filter length NU/Calix shouldn't be scum because they are so far and above everyone else. I'd find it hard to be posting that much as scum
So you read players based on their activity?
What happened to the "NU posted things that looked scummy"?
On November 04 2016 09:16 darthfoley wrote:
Just to clarify my Skynx thing,
At that point in the thread I was so tired of NU vs. Calix uber hardcore insult driven tunneling that I found myself really disappointed with the direction and tone of the game. In comes Skynx, who correctly identifies that ore salt votes (I know you two will disagree with this assessment) are not only meaningless but they're a waste of time. Other than that, Skynx had indeed been pretty much useless and very whiny. I apreciate that the atmosphere has become a little less emotionally charged. That's what I meant, even if phrased poorly.
As I write this, Foreman accuses ExO of cyberbullying *facepalm*
lol
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On November 04 2016 09:21 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 04 2016 09:19 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 04 2016 09:16 ExO_ wrote:
Darthfoley/Skynk have the shortest filters and might be good places to look as well. Going off filter length NU/Calix shouldn't be scum because they are so far and above everyone else. I'd find it hard to be posting that much as scum So you read players based on their activity? What happened to the "NU posted things that looked scummy"? On November 04 2016 09:16 darthfoley wrote:
Just to clarify my Skynx thing,
At that point in the thread I was so tired of NU vs. Calix uber hardcore insult driven tunneling that I found myself really disappointed with the direction and tone of the game. In comes Skynx, who correctly identifies that ore salt votes (I know you two will disagree with this assessment) are not only meaningless but they're a waste of time. Other than that, Skynx had indeed been pretty much useless and very whiny. I apreciate that the atmosphere has become a little less emotionally charged. That's what I meant, even if phrased poorly.
As I write this, Foreman accuses ExO of cyberbullying *facepalm* lol Your entry into the thread looked scummy at first. That was my thought at the start of the game. You kinda agreed with everyone but didn't really make any pressures or move the thread. This latest read on you was an OMGUS. Also rels is a bit odd to me. His filter is of similar length to DF/Skynx. I don't get why he backed off of me so readily either
Tip: Don't read players based on filter length. Dandel Ion was scum with you in Dota 2 and he managed 10+ pages of filter iirc.
Because of your VT claim & explanation. He never was fully onto you.
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The "Tip" part looks like I am scum-claiming actually.
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So I re-read the case on Tictock and was left disappointed. Nothing mentioned makes Tictock mafia.
+ Show Spoiler +On November 04 2016 00:51 Skynx wrote:More badness cuz of word limit Tictock Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 07:00 Tictock wrote:
Ok more or less caught up.
Exo and Foreman seem like the obv scum team to me atm. A little less sure on Foreman, but eh w/e.
Exo is prob scum for his reaction to Calix's questions as well as him dropping the gif stuff. Calix was right to ask him why he dropped his "I'm gunna post in mostly gifs" kus the most likely reason why he would drop that plan is if he rolled scum and decided it would draw too much attn to himself. I think the fact the he only posted the one gif kinda supports that as well.
Exo's push on Calix is pretty BS too, saying she is scum for "trying to get him to post gifs" is just stupid kus there is no way that is what she was implying. Not to mention that I don't think Calix would ever do that as scum either.
After arguing with Calix a bunch all he did was call me scum for my one liner open. Seems like the obv lynch to me.
##Vote: Exo_ Exo is scum with Foreman Exo is scum for overreacting to a bad push > No, he had right to do that, he got voted by someone else plus the guy making the push didn't vote for him and said he is not even scumreading him. He has to retaliate here otherwise people will accuse him for not going after shitty pushes. Exo is scum for dropping the gif stuff > So you actually suggest him trying to be pro-town implies he did it because he rolled mafia is absolute OMGUS. Exo is scum for shitty push on Calix > I can sort of agree with this cuz it was badly worded. However this is quite bad as Exo's push is not indicative of Calix' alignment as regardless of the retaliation, Calix' push was bad and he stepped back from it and should be pushed for it. Nothing about Foreman this is literally the worse case ever Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 07:05 Tictock wrote:
Calix and Marghal (or w/e) are my top town atm. Mostly everything they have done has been to push the game forward and have been looking at multiple people from multiple angles.
Skynx is a little shitter for trying to imply that this early game is NAI. This is prob the least jokey start of a game I have every seen. Kinda null on him despite his early posts seeming unlikely to come from scum imo.
I kinda think NU is town but I'm not really sure why, just feels natural and relaxed I guess. In the same vein I kinda liked Dark's one post too so they are both townleaning nulls. "pushing the game forward" here means voting for wrong and weak and meaningless reasons that are not there. what does this even mean? Can you like quote some stuff indicating why them two are town? Cuz i see nothing. Middle ground on me, calls me shitter, unlikely to come from scum, in the end null. If above two are town for pushing the game forward by a clear margin for you, why am I not an as clear scum for doing the absolute opposite?? These don't make any sense. Two lists of opinions about people after a long silence and they are all meaningless/wrong.
##Vote: Tictock
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