Newbie Student Mafia XXIV - Page 5

On November 03 2016 09:32 Calix wrote:


Good.

Moving onto relevant matters, I didn't completely hate the last half of your wall-post.

Saying it's for town cred is indicative of a manipulative mindset where he can change his mind at any time. AKA it's insincere. That's how I interpreted that post.

Last quote is also not terrible.

On November 03 2016 10:06 mahrgell wrote:
I hate you all, now I missed the Habs game already nearing the end of the 2nd period.

On November 03 2016 09:51 mahrgell wrote:

- read it as "can you imagine a townie speculating". I already said that I try to interpret actions from both sides. And here it completely failed to interpret this from a town perspective. Because I still don't see any motivation for a townie to speculate about it.
But I guess you prefer to grammartwist it and imply stuff that wasn't there.



Okay, as you asked for the explanation, I thought this would be obvious. No, I did not see it as you hinting your scumbuddies to this guy potentially being a blue. So your argument is completely moot.
But there are still 2 scenarios for this to be scumplay imho:
a) an attempt for getting a blueclaim out early, if that line was intentional
b) if the line was unintentional... Scum has to make up stuff, has to look like they are provinding reads and content, without giving anythign away but confusion and misleads. And yes, when making up stuff, sometimes mistakes happen. So call it a slip.

If it was a) I would be very disappointed in you, but b) I consider fully in the realm of possibilities. If I weight your very weird interpretation of my "A townie speculating" and compare it to my interpretation of your bluesuspicion... I give my own interpretation more likelihood to be anything than yours.

On November 03 2016 10:23 darthfoley wrote:
Mahrgell I've already voiced my displeasure with the amount of salty shitposting from people today, especially between Calix and NU. So much OMGUS

On November 03 2016 11:24 mahrgell wrote:


Is this vote as serious as your last 2? Or now really based on the points made here? I should probably read Exos filter again...


Anyway... Habs game over, I can sleep now ^.^ Whoever feels throwing questions at me, go ahead, I will answer later.

On November 03 2016 18:23 Calix wrote:
Here's what I read out of the few overnight posts.

With regards to mahrgell, I'm starting to get a lean-town read on him. This is mainly because his responses have themes of "I'm approaching XYZ from both perspectives" and "I'm trying to encourage a positive town atmosphere".

Is this something that scum can do? Sure. He could be thread-policing, but I don't see how this actually furthers a scum agenda in his case. Scum want chaos, not an orderly atmosphere. The only thing that he's done that can be read in that light is his cases (due to their quality) but if he's been making cases to sow doubt then he's been doing a piss-poor job of making that happen.

Going back to the stances he has taken, I feel like he has been very persistent with this line of reasoning so far (even if his reasoning is strange/ unfocused) and even though I find him hard to understand at times, there's some consistency in the logic that he uses.

All that said, I'll reread his filter with these points in mind to see if he contradicts my view of him anywhere/ check the intent behind his cases.



If you must know, I am of the female persuasion but don't sweat it if you call me a 'he'.

Question. When exactly did you 'stop thinking [I] was scum'?

How were my responses townie? I'd like to know. Your lack of elaboration here + thread consensus that I am town = suspicions that you are following thread sentiment with your shift in how you read me.

Your argument was full of holes which have already been pointed out, however. Few scum would hop onto my wagon using your reasoning.

(As a matter of fact, nobody did. Foreman claimed that I was 'tryhard' while NU had that atrocious meta-vote)

On November 03 2016 19:30 Calix wrote:
Given my recent conclusion, I am moving my vote. If nothing else, I think that sorting out mahrgell/ Foreman will prove to be illuminating. I would like to hear more about those two in particular from Skynx and ExO.

TT has already made it clear that he considers mahrgell 'a top town' and Foreman mafia while NU scum-reads mahrgell. Not so sure on his Foreman read although I'm inferring it's a town-read so he's welcome to elaborate there if I'm wrong.

Anyway, this:

##vote mahrgell

On November 03 2016 21:24 Rels wrote:

This makes ExO very likely town

On November 03 2016 21:34 Calix wrote:
#406 is mahrgell's best post that he's made. Actually really like it.

On November 03 2016 21:37 Rels wrote:

1. It is obviously anti town to seriously claim VT at the start of the game. Scum usually don't do obvious scummy things, on the contrary they try to be townie. It's WIFOM, but in mafia the simplest explanation is often the right one.
2. It removes ExO's ability to fakeclaim if he's scum, which is a great tool as scum, and even more in semi open setup like the one we're playing.

On November 03 2016 21:38 Calix wrote:


Why does that mean that other people can't use them? I said that it was his best post, not that I agree with meta reads.

What is even the point of this post aside from to be antagonistic exactly?

On November 03 2016 21:36 NeverUnlucky wrote:
mahr, summarize why Foreman and I are scum.

On November 03 2016 22:09 Calix wrote:


He has two.

Go onto SC2Mafia and look in the archived S-FMs. His first one is Politico, his second one has some stupidly long name related to 'the game of spies'

He is trying to improve his scum game, however. He's been lynched first on both occasions so he needs to.