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On November 03 2016 07:27 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 07:26 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 07:23 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 07:19 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 07:15 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 07:14 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 03 2016 07:00 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 06:57 NeverUnlucky wrote:
##Unvote
##Vote Calix
She cannot believe this strongly that I am scum because of that one post, she who claims I am an easy read for her. Are you really doing this, NU? You have the entirety of CM where I tunneled you on multiple occasions (causing a TvT) and you're trying to use that argument again? I am not even tunneling you this round so you are being extremely inconsistent with your logic. Your 'argument' can be so easily disproved that I'm concluding that you're full of shit. I'm even more confident in my vote. You're voting me based on 1 post for which I debunked everything. Yes, in CM I KNEW you were town. You were obvious town. You're suggesting that this is a TvT again or that I am town?? I don't understand that point. Where am I being inconsistent? I am actually so mad at you for this whole SHITTY push. You're preventing me from playing my game by digging me a hole and making me mad. You fail to EVEN explain how this ONE post makes me scum. Can you not see that your 'case' is shit? You've spent 2 pages shitting up the thread by asking other to look at it and nobody but mahr agreed with it (And mahr isn't even voting me). Isn't that a giant "I AM TUNNELING YET AGAIN" flag? You have a coach, Jesus, use him. ATE. 0 response to a wall post. Nice, nice. What's ATE? Appeal to Emotion. Your push is contradicting your play and reasoning last game. End of discussion. Continue shitting up the thread with your temper tantrums instead of doing anything productive like I told you to do. I'm sure that'll help your case. Instead of whining, do anything else. Leave the thread if you're that much of a cry-baby. So you're meta-reading me for not playing like last game. HIPOCRISY MUCH? I have 0 intent on contributing anything right now, and I don't think that'll change in the following days. Policy lynch.
Do me a favor.
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On November 03 2016 07:30 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 07:23 NeverUnlucky wrote:
If I'm being completely honest I think that Calix is town.
But then I would have to explain myself, so I'll just keep pretending I scum-read her. Then ignore her for the moment and talk about the rest of the game. Foreman is accusing me, I'm accusing Foreman. Others have chimed in. Maybe they have said suspicious things too? Does anyone look like hes sheeping? Let's not pretend there is nothing to talk about outside of Calix vs NU.
Perhaps another time.
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On November 03 2016 07:33 Calix wrote:
In fact, looking at mahrgells' case again, I'm having a hard time thinking that he actually scum-reads NU. Nothing he says is actually that scummy when casing him. He just sounds so unsure of himself that it demotivates me just to look at it.
The TLDR is that he scum-reads me because he doesn't like my responses (Of course responses to a shitty case won't be great) and because I voted you.
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mahr, there's nothing for me to respond to.
If anything, being pushed by Calix should make you guys think I'm town.
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On November 03 2016 07:42 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 07:33 Calix wrote:
In fact, looking at mahrgells' case again, I'm having a hard time thinking that he actually scum-reads NU. Nothing he says is actually that scummy when casing him. He just sounds so unsure of himself that it demotivates me just to look at it. How about the last point, the quote about Exo? Yes, everything before were just small notes in my head, adding up. But this post (and repeating it again on the next page, is he trying to force a blueclaim?) is just really disturbing me. The fact that his tldr of my post also ignored that point doesn't help him.
I cannot argue with illogical post, sorry.
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On November 03 2016 03:36 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 03:35 Calix wrote:On November 03 2016 03:29 ExO_ wrote:
Also to clarify why I'm claiming my VT role right now:
I'm getting it out the open right now. I think in a game this size trying to fake claim to get scum to target me would be a waste of time. So I'm letting everyone know now I don't have any abilities I cannot do anything at night and can only vote. You can choose to either believe me or not, but I'm telling the truth This is another example of anti-town behaviour which I do not agree with. That is NOT the same as pro-scum. Allow me to clear that one up. Some people seem to be misinterpreting my stance on ExO as "scum-lean" when it's not. You cannot claim I'm being anti-town and then back away from it saying I'm not being pro scum anti-town=pro scum And how is this anti-town behavior anyway? You're 100% scum and you messed up already. ez game
This.
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mahr, tell me why you town-read Calix.
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I think you're town. I was quoting a bad ExO post aka I dislike that he's so quick to call you 100% scum.
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You interpreting my posts differently makes me contradict myself. haHAA.
Here, do this little exercise for me: Point out 2 contradictions I've made this game. Apparently I have made numerous, it should not be too hard.
Yes, I am still voting you despite town-reading you. Deal with it.
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"This" meant this is bad/this is cringy/look at this...
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On November 03 2016 07:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Here, do this little exercise for me: Point out 2 contradictions I've made this game. Apparently I have made numerous, it should not be too hard.
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On November 03 2016 08:03 Calix wrote:
I've never seen you - or anyone else - use it in that context before. Provide evidence that you have and I'll go away.
I never have used it before in any context.
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There was nothing to respond to. I've said that already. It won't change because you ask twice.
On an unrelated note, Habs are playing tonight.
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Hard town: darthfoley, TT
Lean town: Clix
Null: Skynx, Foreman, Rels, mahr
Scum: ExO
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I would but that would make me productive.
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I checked mahr's reasons for voting me. This is what i got.
I am mafia because:On November 03 2016 03:54 mahrgell wrote:
3) But I also agree with you, that it is weird for him to "buddy" you, by pretending you were sharing his self made points. I don't think there is much reason for him to try to appease you.
... I "buddied" Calix...
That was not buddying at all. If anything, you're the one who's buddying both me and Calix.
This whole argument also has been debunked.
On November 03 2016 04:09 mahrgell wrote:
Also he started voting Exo. Now of course he will most likely tell us, that he pregame announced he was PL'ing gifs. But that is just the same category as the usual "totally busy, won't post" pregame crap... Nice excuse if you roll mafia, and who cares if you don't do it and roll town.
From a townie I would expect a calmer attitude instead of throwing votes on someone who posted one textpost and one gif.
He could have easily stayed on Exo and push that lynch, if there is some movement. Or he could stay there, if he doesn't want to vote a scumbuddy... Or he could just switch as easy....
Overall... Not liking it.
But let's wait for NU to explain himself.
... I voted ExO...
I am not really sure if you are using this as an argument to scum-read me as your post really lacks a conclusion. But I did as I said. If ExO posted gifs, I was going to PL him.
He posted one gif, I voted him. Now he stopped, my vote's not on him anymore (though I have reasons to switch back to him).
On November 03 2016 07:26 mahrgell wrote:
I initially agreed with Calix that he implied an opinion on Calix she didn't post before. This has been discussed enough. Nontheless I accepted his explanation about it, keeping the minor point against him noted. Him trying to create a positive atmosphere is something I value highly. Now Calix seemed to go completely overboard in tunnel mode, and I honestly cried on the inside about her points. But it were NU's answers who were supposed to destroy Calix points, which brought me back onto him.
First he mentioned how he loves to powerwolf, winning 1v7 etc... Well... So basically his explanation for his initial misstep was devalued by that. Assuming he tries to balance his towngame against his mafiagame, not yet conclusive. But the doubt was increasing.
... because [argument I don't understand]...
I rekt that game. 1v7 clutch win.
Next was his vote on Calix. Seriously, he had absolutely no case here. Now you may tell me again, NU loves frustration voting. Okay. But I consider it a bad trait. NU, stop it or you will probably never get towncred with me. This isn't really advancing the game. If you consider Calix to spout nonsense, either make a proper case or ignore her and talk about what you have noticed with others.
... because I voted Calix and he considers it a bad trait...
Why would I want to have town-cred with him? Why would my actions be motivated by town-cred? I can't put my finger on why I find this to be super scummy, but, uh, I find it super scummy.
Also, him considering a part of my play a bad trait is not an argument for me to be scum.
Really? A townie speculating about another player being blue or red? I mean, is this EVER smart? Mafia knows what color the guy is, and if he isn't red, you probably helped them in case they didn't notice.
... and because I alluded to ExO possibly being blue.
Notice how he says that I am a townie aka he knows I am town while scum-reading me? This is spewing.
Also, he fails to explain how this makes me scum. He says that my post wasn't smart, which I agree with, but doesn't say that it makes me scum.
Scum would have that blue talk in their respective QT, yes, I made a mistake by alluding to this possibility, but it really doesn't make me scum.
All in all, I really don't like the reasons why mahr claims to scum-read me. None are valid scum-tells. He also calls me a townie while scum-reading me which suggests that he knows my alignment.
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On November 03 2016 09:16 Calix wrote:
I wish Rels would pop up soon. It'll be easier to figure out the bigger picture then.
I'm not sure wherever Skynx/ ExO/ NU are being shitters because they're bad or because they're mafia as it stands.
As it stands, I'm probably going to end up voting within those three at the moment. I'm more inclined to hit a low-poster on D1 so I can be convinced to switch from NU for that reasoning alone.
I'm being a shitter because bad players are scum-reading me for bad reasons, and I am not having fun.
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On November 03 2016 09:28 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2016 09:24 Calix wrote:
I'll confess to missing that TPR comment entirely.
What scum motivation do you two see behind it though? Is it odd? Sure, but I always figure that scum would just say "yo fam, ExO might be TPR" in their scum chat or something. Yea I know, but it doesn't make sense from any alignment imo. The existence of the scum chat kinda nulls this point, but I thought it's at least worth pointing out. I remember in previous mafia games I've played on TL, people made a big deal out of "slips" like that
I really don't understand why people are making such a big deal out of this. It is a mistake, I admit, but if I took out the "or he is blue" part of my post, the post would have had the exact same meaning, and I wouldn't have got shit for it.
Saying I don't believe his VT claim is essentially saying I think he's blue or mafia. I worded the assumptions lying behind that post, t's all.
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mahr, you watching the game?
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EPT
