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My vote is still on mahrgell as I find him the most sus, though at this juncture it looks as if the final wagon is gonna be ExO vs. Ticktock. Still feel as if Rels and Skynx have been underwhelming. Didn't like Rels pressure on me in particular, felt a little forced and unnatural. Interested to see what he's slept on | ||
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I'll try to respond to Rels/Calix and give my updated opinion on ExO vs. Ticktock. Gonna filter dive the latter now | ||
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I think I was wrong about TT, I feel as though ExO is the best lynch today, followed by Skynx probably. I am willing to hold off on mahrgell, as I think Rels brought up decent points and explained mahrgell's argument more clearly to me re Foreman vs. Rels inconsistency. On November 03 2016 15:11 ExO_ wrote: I'm tired. I just got home. I don't feel like reading through the read. But I'll tell you my thoughts in a nutshell from the point I left. I jumped on to Calix initially and continued to pressure him(her?) long after I thought she was scum. I do think the way he entered the thread was dumb and likely to inflame me. But his responses afterwards seemed very much from a towny perspective. I continued the pressure to see who would jump on the bandwagon with me in an attempt to press low hanging fruit. I'll look at it tomorrow, but NeverUnlucky/foreman are both going to be the first people I look at. Other people have pointed it out, but I don't like this as an explanation and it seems very shallow. Rels's point regarding the OMGUS nature of ExO's arguments is compelling as well. I remember being very OMGUS towards Rels in our cell mafia game, but the stakes were MUCH higher in that game, hence the desperate play on my part (I was town). There's really no reason from ExO to be this defensive and OMGUS on D1. ExO also claims to trust Skynx but later thinks that if he dies, town should investigate me and Skynx On November 04 2016 09:16 ExO_ wrote: Darthfoley/Skynk have the shortest filters and might be good places to look as well. Going off filter length NU/Calix shouldn't be scum because they are so far and above everyone else. I'd find it hard to be posting that much as scum Don't understand the sudden paranoia/change of heart, especially when Skynx is the only one still pushing the TT train. Regarding my TT case, upon second read through, I really liked his defense of this point On November 04 2016 02:45 Tictock wrote: Responding to Darth, Kus it's really easy for scum to go, "Thats illogical! Contradiction! Scum!" but as we all know town acts illogically and contradict themselves plenty often. Trying to find out what caused that by asking questions is that deeper thinking, not pigeon holeing someone based off one silly thing (see Exo or Foreman's push on Calix for examples there). Hadn't thought about it in that way. I see why it's very easy for mafia to just latch onto logical inconsistency (ironic, given my mahrgell tunnel) and not let it go. Regarding me, I still don't think the Skynx thing held much merit. I think he's probably second lynch today considering his lack of activity and the way he seems to be sort of waffling on TT/ExO now? My mahrgell tunnel was simply lazy; I waited to invest myself in ExO vs. TT after my case, because I wanted fresh eyes when I read it. The only thing I'll say about mahrgell is that I put 0 stock in lots of activity = town lean because I lost to a 30 page filter Shapelog in a newbie mafia game and will never forget it. Fuck that I will probably look through NU/Calix filter at some point; anytime I see a 10 page filter on D1 I get triggered. I hate spam ##Vote:ExO | ||
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On November 05 2016 01:59 Calix wrote: I find it quite odd that you're saying that you have this town-lean on ExO (one of your few town-reads/ leans/ whatever) yet you're not really trying to oppose his lynch or convince us how NU/ TT are mafia. (your NU case still makes zero sense, not a single bit) You just don't seem to care that much at all. ExO flips town, can say, told ya so! Even though he's not really doing much besides quibble. Don't see how this strategy makes sense if they're both scum though | ||
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On November 05 2016 03:10 Calix wrote: Why do you think Rels had a 'major part' in ExO's ML? TT was clearly the one driving that while Rels popped in later after ExO was an established wagon. Major part doesn't mean person X started the wagon. I felt like Rels, before he voted on me, was pushing the ExO envelope pretty hard, before he cased me, then went back to ExO for the rest of the day and basically shit on him. Like TT, his conclusion was very narrow: you're either scum or fuck you, which doesn't really leave any room for doubt-- which a few of us cited as the EoD concluded. I started to get cold feet because ExO was spewing at the end, but Rels didn't seem to have those reservations. He's UBER tunneled me in the past as TvT (but it was a 15 man cell mafia game, so the stakes were a lot higher and the circumstances are very different from a 9 man game). Is this reaction usual for his town play? @ anyone who's played with him extensively | ||
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On November 05 2016 02:45 mahrgell wrote: Okay, I just made it back and finished reading up. I see no reason to change my vote. Exo's posts past my case have ust reinforced my impression further. I guess we see him flip and continue from there. I finally want to dive into Skynx/DF and TT. ^.^ Should be doing that before this nights Habs game if family doesn't keep me busy. Otherwise I for sure will have it done before end of the night. At this point I'm actually a bit surprised how I'm suddenly everybodys darling. I guess I want to look i this progression too, as I feel kinda buddied here. Then again... lets flip Exo first... This certainly will provide interesting information. On November 05 2016 03:18 mahrgell wrote: Btw, I'm still finding the relationship progression of players with me very interesting. It seems like I have been read as everything from strongtownlean to certainscum by most players. I feel like I'm always floating between getting buddied and getting shaded. If anyone feels like looking into it... Wtf are these posts man? Can someone explain to me WHY they're reading mahrgell anything more than null? Omg I feel buddied, i'm everyone's darling!!! so spook!!!! I (mahrgell) will look into it! I feel like i'm floating between getting buddied and shaded? Anyone (not mahrgell) want to look into it?! | ||
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On November 04 2016 09:23 mahrgell wrote: My more recent and confident ones: Scum: Exo_ Neut: FM Townlead: Calix, NU, Rels I want to reevaluate TT, Skynx and DF next. DF posted a lot of stuff, and it seemed to not match my image of him and at some point he went completely off when accusing me. But I may be biased on the stuff he writes about me, so I have to reread his filter and I will probably focus on the stuff not concerning me to make my judgement. From first impression I would tend scumlean though.I hope to ind time tmrw for it. Skynx is Neut in my mind so far, mainly because I didn't pay much attention to his posts besides the onne paragraph directed at me. From memory he posted mostly useless stuff early, but later had 2 wot against me and 3 other players. Then his TT case. I will focus on those. (I actually wanted to do that earlier... but somehow kept busy) TT I would townlean from memory. But I want to check the case made against him. If I currently Neut Skynx, while having a scum+scumlean, this would make Skynx by process of elimination a townie and his case must have some substance. Also iirc Exo jumped on it. If it was completely fabricated, this would mean the the entire scumteam went allin here... Then again, Exo jumping on it actually makes TT and Skynx look better. But this is now too much speculation, and I will warm this up once we have a flip. Anyway... I just want to read TT again On November 04 2016 09:43 mahrgell wrote: Thanks @Calix With that I will now finally go to sleep. As time may be rare tomorrow, who do you suggest to look into first out of TT,DF and Skynx? I guess you are valueing Skynx highly, so could you maybe give me a summary how you came to this? And then I would start with one of the other two. Probably DF, as TT seems to be tied to skynx. DF seems to be upset with me though and I don't feel like revenge reading ^.^ I doubt anything useful will come from his. On November 05 2016 02:45 mahrgell wrote: Okay, I just made it back and finished reading up. I see no reason to change my vote. Exo's posts past my case have ust reinforced my impression further. I guess we see him flip and continue from there. I finally want to dive into Skynx/DF and TT. ^.^ Should be doing that before this nights Habs game if family doesn't keep me busy. Otherwise I for sure will have it done before end of the night. At this point I'm actually a bit surprised how I'm suddenly everybodys darling. I guess I want to look i this progression too, as I feel kinda buddied here. Then again... lets flip Exo first... This certainly will provide interesting information. How many times can you say you're gonna filter dive before you do it? Why are you asking other people who you should look into? Why is mahrgell claiming he would be "revenge reading?" He town leans me, so why would looking through my filter be useless? These posts were made 18 hours ago, and 1 hour ago. I DO NOT LIKE | ||
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On November 05 2016 03:51 NeverUnlucky wrote: just wanted to say that whoever is drunk on whiskey after that ml is scum come again? | ||
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