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On November 04 2016 03:06 NeverUnlucky wrote: I was unclear. EBWOP: I had to deal with her shitty case, I could not ignore it. She ignores my response and all that comes with it. That's not only unfair, it's also scummy as hell because she is not willing to reconsider her read WHICH SHE SAID WAS A SCUMMY BEHAVIOR. I'll make her game hell as long as I'm left ignored. Find it really weird how you're up in arms over her super scummy behavior yet you town read her | ||
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On November 04 2016 03:30 Foreman wrote: Sure, as soon as you explain your read of me, which was given before you know my reads of everyone else. So the majority of my read on you is based off of your interactions with mahrgell. Although nothing you've done has screamed uber town, small things like you not really giving a shit about how people view your playstyle leads me to believe that you're playing your own style and not trying to conform to "please" other towns. Basically the antithesis of buddying. I liked this post specifically On November 03 2016 23:59 Foreman wrote: This is terribad. So any townie that you disagree with is scummy to you? Because like, two town can't see the same thing and have completely different thoughts about the same situation, what with the fact that everybody has identical environmental factors and upbringing, amirite? Oh wait... This is a bit of a segue, but mahrgell says a townie sees what I see. So if I feel myself completely unable to follow the line of thought of a player, this is a scumlean for me So naturally, you'd think he would scum read Rels, after all... On November 03 2016 23:41 mahrgell wrote: About Rels. I agree with basically none of his reads, pretty apparent with his 3 top town being my top scum. But there is one thing you can't blame him for: Trying to blend in. I would love to see him explaining his controversial reads. Mainly I'm interested in: - why does he town NU - why does he town Foreman - I can see people not agreeing my concerns regarding foreman, but seriously, what has he done to make him a townread???) - what makes foley scummy? - "hates post" okay... Tell me more. Share your thought process. I haven't seen any reasoning on those reads and admit they don't make sense to me. and eventually, in his last large post, claims that he views Rels neutrally. Which doesn't make sense considering his prescribed stance from earlier. This scum read of mine of mahrgell helps me consider you to be town. Why'd you change your vote off of mahrgell to Skynx? | ||
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On November 04 2016 04:05 Calix wrote: I'm not sure I follow your point. Does mahrgell say "Rels disagreeing with me on XYZ reads is bad" and uses the "but he's controversial" part as a mitigating factor? I can kind of see an argument for "he's hedging on Rels" but I'm not sure if that was what you were implying. I'd appreciate some clarification on your thought process here  So basically, mahrgell's top scum read is Foreman. It should be followed by Rels, if he were actually following his gameplan he laid out earlier. On November 03 2016 06:49 mahrgell wrote: How many you need? You obviously ignored all my posts about yourself. But let's summarize and update: Looking at your entire post history, I try to figure out how you managed to come to the conclusion you have. If you have no information about the game, you should have seen the same as me. And yet somehow you managed to take another turn at pretty much every point in the game. So far all your actions have been about the opposite of what I would expect from someone who saw the same as I did, with the same information I have. (none). 1) you see the Calix vs Exo_ interaction and for weird reasons tunnel down on Calix. Was she(it seems like Calix is a she?) pushing Exo? I don't think so. If she was, I agree it was pointless, but well... Day1. You were sure she was pushing Exo. Okay... Happy tunneling. 2) so you chase after people for having the antitown-proscum conversation, just to push that conversation further. If it was in your interest to remove this discussion from the thread to steer the game in a more town friendly direction, you should probably not try to last word in that conversation. 3) Next Calix asks you about NU. Instead of answering, you refuse to answer at all, because you consider Calix scum. I believe enough people pointed out at this point that this is pretty anti-town. Considering you being worried about the town atmosphere before, this is rather ironic. 4) I ask you about NU too. You dismiss it as parroting. Besides the fact that I consider it not parroting, but admit, that my critique on NU was very similar to Calix (earlier, not her latest) posts, let's for a moment assume it was parroting. At this point you claimed to scumlean Calix, but didn't say anything about me. If I were a townie, and see someone else parrot a person I consider scum... I for sure as hell would do my best to get this person to stop sheeping a scummie. Either you turn on me right away, or you try to get me away from her. Instead you just dismissed me. If I was sheeping Calix and you considered her scum, you willingly gave her an additional vote. 5) Your general contribution to this thread has never been in the interest of improving the atmosphere. In none of the mentioned points have you ever tried for a constructive conversation. And your latest responses to NU weren't better either. Not sure if it was in this thread or in the other one, but when you asked about the TL meta someone (NU?) answered: "Be wrong and a dick about it" This is exactly what I see you doing here. I guess you earned it ##Vote Foreman The bolded is exactly why he should be scum leaning Rels. Rels vs. Mahrgell reads are 100% different, yet mahrgell feels the need to say that "it's weird that Rels thinks 100% opposite of me, but hey let's give him the benefit of the doubt and let him explain himself before i lean him one way or another!!!" this was not the same way he dealt with Foreman. It is fine to say, "i'm scum leaning Rels for now, cuz his reads are so wack-- but I'll hear him out." He doesn't say this; he says a null tell on someone, who by his logic, should not be null. It would be less sus if this was in the first few hours of the game, but we've been in D1 for over 24 hours, so Rels (according to mahrgell's logic) should be starting to view the game in the same way. | ||
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I'm arguing more for mahrgell being sus than Rels btw. The team thing was a little facetious | ||
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On November 04 2016 05:03 mahrgell wrote: Wtf? I have Rels on null. With a clear anouncement that I consider him scumlean if he does not deliver a good explanation. Are you even reading? And as you asked for the contrast to Foreman: I asked him out too. just that he refused any kind of answer with his amazing style, and went on doing exactly what I criticized. If Rels continues doing completely unfounded reads you are right, he will be the same as Foreman. But so far... he has not responded, so I keep him on Null. If he wonnt respond at all until end of the day... I will go with what I said so for: scumlean him. (which in return would have to make me rethink my other scumleans... having too many is not a situation im comfortable with) Null reading someone when you're mafia is safe because you can take that read wherever you want depending on town sentiment. Especially with a Calix lynch train on one and a few slight town tells on the other. I just find your hesitation scummy because Rels had like 16 hours to make an entrance. He makes one you disagree on completely, yet you still have him null | ||
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On November 04 2016 05:28 ExO_ wrote: Either you believe my VT claim, or you don't. It's interesting logic to me that you would be okay with lynching me because "I'm only VT" if you don't believe my VT claim. Is this really all you're gonna contribute? Your filter is so subpar right now and you going back to the VT claim stuff? | ||
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He STILL hasn't said anything conclusive or definitive. He keeps asking the same things to the same people to stall and buy time. He's also using the OMGIS first game defense now. I remember my first forum game (This is my fourth) and I rolled scum. I play a ton of IRL mafia and I'm pretty good at it, but I was terrible with trying to forge reads as scum G1. I can't remember the title of the game but it was on TL. I see a lot of parallels between my playstyle that game, and his play style in this game. Outside of this, I've already written content on my mahrgell scum read. Look through my filter if you want a refresher. Also find it interesting that he peaches out with all his reads for family time, then as soon as I put heat on him, he finds the time to go semi filter diving and engage with people again. ##Vote: mahrgell | ||
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All his posts are generic double reads not saying anything of great substance. I would be fine posting a bunch if I wasn't actually saying anything | ||
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On November 04 2016 07:53 Rels wrote: ##Vote darthfoley Hopefully you don't lead as effective a mislynch train as you did in our cell mafia game | ||
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At that point in the thread I was so tired of NU vs. Calix uber hardcore insult driven tunneling that I found myself really disappointed with the direction and tone of the game. In comes Skynx, who correctly identifies that ore salt votes (I know you two will disagree with this assessment) are not only meaningless but they're a waste of time. Other than that, Skynx had indeed been pretty much useless and very whiny. I apreciate that the atmosphere has become a little less emotionally charged. That's what I meant, even if phrased poorly. As I write this, Foreman accuses ExO of cyberbullying *facepalm* | ||
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