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On November 05 2016 03:07 darthfoley wrote:
nah dude, mahrgell can't be scummy because first time scum can't spam or something like that
LoL
lol
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On November 05 2016 03:08 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 03:04 Calix wrote:
Can't really say that was a surprise after that EOD.
I'm going to go and colour-code that host vote-sheet thing and then I'll be doing some rereading of ExO's posts. Scratch the first part. Too many links to see what I'm doing.
I'll do it for you. What do you want green and red?
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On November 05 2016 03:11 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 03:06 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I think mahrgell's post at EoD about the lynch being informative was really really scummy. Yeah, considering that I was probably the main driving force behind the Exo-lynch. Indeed. I have to conclude I'm scum now. Can I vote myself? On a more serious note: I was mainly going at the fact that with the lynch, which I really wanted to go through, there may more urgent topics or me to look into may pop up. Well... I'm honestly not sure if this mislynch is more informative than a scum lynch. I admire Exos EoD effort, but I have difficulty making sense of it. Let's add another point to my task list. I'm still in fmily time, but should work down my list from tmrw noon until EoN, just in case.
Tictock was the main driving force followed by Rels. As ExO stated, you were the "3rd".
Apathy noted.
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On November 05 2016 03:15 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 03:13 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 05 2016 03:11 mahrgell wrote:On November 05 2016 03:06 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I think mahrgell's post at EoD about the lynch being informative was really really scummy. Yeah, considering that I was probably the main driving force behind the Exo-lynch. Indeed. I have to conclude I'm scum now. Can I vote myself? On a more serious note: I was mainly going at the fact that with the lynch, which I really wanted to go through, there may more urgent topics or me to look into may pop up. Well... I'm honestly not sure if this mislynch is more informative than a scum lynch. I admire Exos EoD effort, but I have difficulty making sense of it. Let's add another point to my task list. I'm still in fmily time, but should work down my list from tmrw noon until EoN, just in case. Tictock was the main driving force followed by Rels. As ExO stated, you were the "3rd". Apathy noted. I answered this "you were third" thingie to Exo already. How about reading?
I stand by my statement that you really were not a driving force of the ExO lynch.
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On November 05 2016 03:25 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 02:45 mahrgell wrote:
Okay, I just made it back and finished reading up. I see no reason to change my vote. Exo's posts past my case have ust reinforced my impression further. I guess we see him flip and continue from there. I finally want to dive into Skynx/DF and TT. ^.^ Should be doing that before this nights Habs game if family doesn't keep me busy. Otherwise I for sure will have it done before end of the night.
At this point I'm actually a bit surprised how I'm suddenly everybodys darling. I guess I want to look i this progression too, as I feel kinda buddied here.
Then again... lets flip Exo first... This certainly will provide interesting information. Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 03:18 mahrgell wrote:
Btw, I'm still finding the relationship progression of players with me very interesting. It seems like I have been read as everything from strongtownlean to certainscum by most players. I feel like I'm always floating between getting buddied and getting shaded. If anyone feels like looking into it... Wtf are these posts man? Can someone explain to me WHY they're reading mahrgell anything more than null? Omg I feel buddied, i'm everyone's darling!!! so spook!!!! I (mahrgell) will look into it! I feel like i'm floating between getting buddied and shaded? Anyone (not mahrgell) want to look into it?!
I don't understand how he got the feeling he is being buddied to being with.
I'll have a check at him.
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just wanted to say that whoever is drunk on whiskey after that ml is scum
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On November 05 2016 03:52 Calix wrote:
I'm not even sure if we're allowed to discuss this but meh.
We're not.
We can't even know if one of the noobs rolled scum. It was a joke.
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On November 05 2016 04:42 Calix wrote:
I really hate it when everyone just fucks off after I claim to have a scum-read.
I'm listening.
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To be fair you've ignored Foreman and I before, so you have no right to complain now.
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On November 05 2016 04:51 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 04:49 NeverUnlucky wrote:
To be fair you've ignored Foreman and I before, so you have no right to complain now. So instead of posting anything relevant to my case, you make an empty post. Okay.
Will make a proper response later, just to be busy to read your case atm
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On November 05 2016 04:52 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 04:51 Calix wrote:On November 05 2016 04:49 NeverUnlucky wrote:
To be fair you've ignored Foreman and I before, so you have no right to complain now. So instead of posting anything relevant to my case, you make an empty post. Okay. Will make a proper response later, just to be busy to read your case atm
I retract this.
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On November 05 2016 04:59 Calix wrote:And you have enough time to spam, make empty posts and play anti-town but not enough time to read this: Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 04:46 Calix wrote:@Tictock He also scum-reads ExO because 'he didn't want to draw attention to himself by only posting gifs' What's the issue here? He somehow thinks that ExO overreacting to my question, being overly defensive and lashing out at me is something that...will NOT get ExO a shit-load of attention...? He has to think that. Why? - He scum-reads ExO. - He claims that scum don't like attention and that ExO didn't post gifs because he didn't want attention. - Therefore he has to think that ExO's reaction was intentionally designed to not get attention onto ExO. Here's what I found: On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.
His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think) Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around. What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it. How does anyone think that attacking me and getting salty are things that won't draw attention to ExO?
I don't have time to deal with your toxicity. Please stop trying to provoke me, I am trying to have a clean game and improve.
I read your posts. I think your first point is okay, but it would be even better if you highlighted the inconsistency in TT saying that Skynx was a TR before for drawing attention to himself while he did not consider this argument when scum-reading ExO who drew a lot of attention with his claim.
I think you misinterpreted his point about the gifs. From my understanding, he was saying that ExO dropped the idea of posting gifs because he had rolled mafia and did not want to be policy lynched (which I threatened him for).
Also not sure what the bolded has to do there as TT only said that posting gifs was prone to drawing attention. His point never was that ExO would try to keep a low profile by not attacking anyone and whatnot.
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On November 05 2016 06:02 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 05:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 05 2016 04:59 Calix wrote:And you have enough time to spam, make empty posts and play anti-town but not enough time to read this: On November 05 2016 04:46 Calix wrote:@Tictock He also scum-reads ExO because 'he didn't want to draw attention to himself by only posting gifs' What's the issue here? He somehow thinks that ExO overreacting to my question, being overly defensive and lashing out at me is something that...will NOT get ExO a shit-load of attention...? He has to think that. Why? - He scum-reads ExO. - He claims that scum don't like attention and that ExO didn't post gifs because he didn't want attention. - Therefore he has to think that ExO's reaction was intentionally designed to not get attention onto ExO. Here's what I found: On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.
His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think) Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around. What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it. How does anyone think that attacking me and getting salty are things that won't draw attention to ExO? I don't have time to deal with your toxicity. Please stop trying to provoke me, I am trying to have a clean game and improve. I read your posts. I think your first point is okay, but it would be even better if you highlighted the inconsistency in TT saying that Skynx was a TR before for drawing attention to himself while he did not consider this argument when scum-reading ExO who drew a lot of attention with his claim. I think you misinterpreted his point about the gifs. From my understanding, he was saying that ExO dropped the idea of posting gifs because he had rolled mafia and did not want to be policy lynched (which I threatened him for). Also not sure what the bolded has to do there as TT only said that posting gifs was prone to drawing attention. His point never was that ExO would try to keep a low profile by not attacking anyone and whatnot. If you were really trying to improve then you'd just shut up and do the improving instead of trying to twist my words against me. Keep that in mind. Your second paragraph is weird. Does it matter if my point was mediocre if you agree with it for different reasoning? TT never said anything about PLs though. He said that ExO was mafia who didn't want the attention that posting gifs and nothing else would give him. I'm saying that TT's reason for scum-reading ExO doesn't make sense because ExO's play was clearly drawing a lot of attention to him...which TT considers a town trait...but he claims that ExO is mafia because he didn't post purely in gifs because it would draw attention to him. But ExO's 'new play' was drawing attention to him anyway...and he never considered this or think that ExO might be town for that or say "well he is drawing attention to himself but he is still mafia because X" or anything. I just do not understand his thought process here.
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I did not say that your point was mediocre, miss. c:
I think it is what he implied. If you have a quote of him saying that ExO did not want attention at all, do share it.
That is my point in paragraph 2. c:
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On November 05 2016 06:17 Tictock wrote:
Please scum read me for better reasons, talking about the same point over and over gets old.
The TL;DR of this game c:
On November 05 2016 06:22 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 06:16 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 05 2016 06:02 Calix wrote:On November 05 2016 05:55 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 05 2016 04:59 Calix wrote:And you have enough time to spam, make empty posts and play anti-town but not enough time to read this: On November 05 2016 04:46 Calix wrote:@Tictock He also scum-reads ExO because 'he didn't want to draw attention to himself by only posting gifs' What's the issue here? He somehow thinks that ExO overreacting to my question, being overly defensive and lashing out at me is something that...will NOT get ExO a shit-load of attention...? He has to think that. Why? - He scum-reads ExO. - He claims that scum don't like attention and that ExO didn't post gifs because he didn't want attention. - Therefore he has to think that ExO's reaction was intentionally designed to not get attention onto ExO. Here's what I found: On November 04 2016 06:09 Tictock wrote:On November 04 2016 06:01 Calix wrote:
But how hard is it to just say something like "oh I was joking" or "I wanted to play the game properly" or something? Maybe I'm just assuming that ExO is as amazingly intelligent as I am, but that doesn't seem like a stretch for scum.
His later behaviour is more concerning to me. I don't really like it and the point which I found the most interesting from him is something that you claim was a joke. (I think) Thats actually kinda my point, town!Exo could have said the same things, or started posting gifs to joke around. What did we see? Him getting butthurt that you called him out for not posting Gifs and attacking you for it. How does anyone think that attacking me and getting salty are things that won't draw attention to ExO? I don't have time to deal with your toxicity. Please stop trying to provoke me, I am trying to have a clean game and improve. I read your posts. I think your first point is okay, but it would be even better if you highlighted the inconsistency in TT saying that Skynx was a TR before for drawing attention to himself while he did not consider this argument when scum-reading ExO who drew a lot of attention with his claim. I think you misinterpreted his point about the gifs. From my understanding, he was saying that ExO dropped the idea of posting gifs because he had rolled mafia and did not want to be policy lynched (which I threatened him for). Also not sure what the bolded has to do there as TT only said that posting gifs was prone to drawing attention. His point never was that ExO would try to keep a low profile by not attacking anyone and whatnot. If you were really trying to improve then you'd just shut up and do the improving instead of trying to twist my words against me. Keep that in mind. Your second paragraph is weird. Does it matter if my point was mediocre if you agree with it for different reasoning? TT never said anything about PLs though. He said that ExO was mafia who didn't want the attention that posting gifs and nothing else would give him. I'm saying that TT's reason for scum-reading ExO doesn't make sense because ExO's play was clearly drawing a lot of attention to him...which TT considers a town trait...but he claims that ExO is mafia because he didn't post purely in gifs because it would draw attention to him. But ExO's 'new play' was drawing attention to him anyway...and he never considered this or think that ExO might be town for that or say "well he is drawing attention to himself but he is still mafia because X" or anything. I just do not understand his thought process here. -------------------------------- I did not say that your point was mediocre, miss. c: I think it is what he implied. If you have a quote of him saying that ExO did not want attention at all, do share it. That is my point in paragraph 2. c: Here you go: Show nested quote +Exo is prob scum for his reaction to Calix's questions as well as him dropping the gif stuff. Calix was right to ask him why he dropped his "I'm gunna post in mostly gifs" kus the most likely reason why he would drop that plan is if he rolled scum and decided it would draw too much attn to himself. I think the fact the he only posted the one gif kinda supports that as well. Show nested quote +I stand by my assessment. Him changing his stance from "I'm gunna post gifs and have fun" to "I'm gunna claim VT and get all serious about shit" is far more likely to come from someone who rolled scum and doesn't want to draw attention for posting mostly gifs. I am going to wait for TT's response before I talk any more about this. In the meantime, how have your reads changed since ExO's lynch?
He specifically states that the attention would come from posting gifs though.
I do not think it is the right time to discuss my reads.
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On November 05 2016 06:33 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 06:29 NeverUnlucky wrote:
I do not think it is the right time to discuss my reads. What? Why?
Isn't it bad to discuss reads at night?
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Oh, yeah, I remember Rels asking why I had him in my tinfoil reads. It kind of ties with Calix's last post too.
Very early on, Rels said that he hated DF's first post and asked me why I had liked it (he did not explain his disliking of the post). It was only I gave my analysis of the post and pointed out the good and the bad in it that he gave his opinion. My opinion of DF changed from town-read to null-read, and I felt manipulated by Rels at the time :3
Looking over his filter, it actually very much ressembles Koshi's filter from last game in every aspect, I kid you not. Calix, agree?
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On November 05 2016 07:32 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 07:28 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Oh, yeah, I remember Rels asking why I had him in my tinfoil reads. It kind of ties with Calix's last post too.
Very early on, Rels said that he hated DF's first post and asked me why I had liked it (he did not explain his disliking of the post). It was only I gave my analysis of the post and pointed out the good and the bad in it that he gave his opinion. My opinion of DF changed from town-read to null-read, and I felt manipulated by Rels at the time :3
Looking over his filter, it actually very much ressembles Koshi's filter from last game in every aspect, I kid you not. Calix, agree? If you felt manipulated by him at the time then what stopped you from saying so? And how was that manipulative in your eyes? You're going to have to expand on that Rels/ Koshi comparison. I kind of get you but clarification would be nice. I don't fancy reading a Koshi filter if I am honest.
I tinfoiled later.
Koshi called you lock town very early, like Rels. I remember Koshi saying he would even town-read you if there was a red-check on ye'.
Koshi asked me about my previous games, Rels too.
Their tone is similar.
How often they ask for others' opinion.
They both write "lol" in caps (Oddly I find this scummy).
That's off the top of my head.
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On November 05 2016 07:49 Calix wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2016 07:40 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 05 2016 07:32 Calix wrote:On November 05 2016 07:28 NeverUnlucky wrote:
Oh, yeah, I remember Rels asking why I had him in my tinfoil reads. It kind of ties with Calix's last post too.
Very early on, Rels said that he hated DF's first post and asked me why I had liked it (he did not explain his disliking of the post). It was only I gave my analysis of the post and pointed out the good and the bad in it that he gave his opinion. My opinion of DF changed from town-read to null-read, and I felt manipulated by Rels at the time :3
Looking over his filter, it actually very much ressembles Koshi's filter from last game in every aspect, I kid you not. Calix, agree? If you felt manipulated by him at the time then what stopped you from saying so? And how was that manipulative in your eyes? You're going to have to expand on that Rels/ Koshi comparison. I kind of get you but clarification would be nice. I don't fancy reading a Koshi filter if I am honest. I tinfoiled later. Koshi called you lock town very early, like Rels. I remember Koshi saying he would even town-read you if there was a red-check on ye'. Koshi asked me about my previous games, Rels too. Their tone is similar. How often they ask for others' opinion. They both write "lol" in caps (Oddly I find this scummy). That's off the top of my head. I am confused. You say that 'I felt manipulated by him at the time' - would this not indicate that you had that feeling at the time of him making that post? Man, how can I ever suspect a dude who says "scum!Koshi and Rels write LOL, this is scummy"? That's the most hilarious comparison. But you make some valid comparisons, that aside.
Yeah, I guess that's what it would indicate. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You tell me. You were convinced I was a gangster less than 24h ago.
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I would add to #1083 that his TR/town-lean on mahrgell is strange. I did not really understand how mahrgell coming from IRL mafia made his current play make more sense as town than as scum.
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