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D1 Rels, HF, Onegu and LS (didn't vote at all) didn't vote for NU
D2 2 VTs didn't vote + Onegu (??)
If Onegu is another inactive town, mafia has been rather active this game.
The only two people to vote for both NU and Shapelog are me and TT HF = Rels, Shapelog Rels = HF, Shapelog EC = NU, c8 LS = N/A, Shapelog mahrgell = NU, sl Onegu = EC, N/A TT = NU, Shapelog
meh having two super inactive towns yesterday really fucked up any chance to vca properly
Guess we need to re-analyze D1 shit
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On December 04 2016 07:42 Holyflare wrote: Guys that aren't Margaret. Is it possible Mabinogi is mafia?
This was actually seriously starting to go through my head tbh
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That sucks, but technically it didn't actually waste a lynch with both of them flipping town since we would have needed to use a lynch on CM8 sooner or later.
I'm not really onboard with knee jerk lynching SL after that. I have a hard time seeing him playing out the day the way he did as mafia. I suppose it's not impossible but doesn't make a lot of sense.
Kinda more inclined to lynch Onegu because he basically just laid back and let things happen. Plus comparing the filter dives I did of SL and Onegu I found Onegu more suspect.
The silver lining here is that I get to start tinfoiling who might be mafia outside my PoE list now that we have two of the bigger question marks flipped.
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On December 04 2016 07:47 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2016 07:42 Holyflare wrote: Guys that aren't Margaret. Is it possible Mabinogi is mafia? This was actually seriously starting to go through my head tbh
It is also not impossible for HF to be mafia here.
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On December 04 2016 07:48 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2016 07:47 darthfoley wrote:On December 04 2016 07:42 Holyflare wrote: Guys that aren't Margaret. Is it possible Mabinogi is mafia? This was actually seriously starting to go through my head tbh It is also not impossible for HF to be mafia here.
I'm aware. Especially with this fucking stupid JK claim at the beginning of night, the person probably most likely to die (HF) if he were town has an excuse to live for another day and have it be pretty NAI because of the SL kill incoming if he's actually JK
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Hm, thinking about his JK claim though... One thing that makes sense about it is that he actually had this JK tmi "accident" earlier... I guess I reread him again... What a pain.
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Also willing to believe his JK claim because he did TMI slip sort of earlier on and Rels did catch it.
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On December 04 2016 07:49 darthfoley wrote: Also willing to believe his JK claim because he did TMI slip sort of earlier on and Rels did catch it. Can you point out the Rels post about it? I'm really not sure on the order here, but I noticed it when I did my second list on him. Rels may have posted it before me though.
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On December 04 2016 07:49 mahrgell wrote: Hm, thinking about his JK claim though... One thing that makes sense about it is that he actually had this JK tmi "accident" earlier... I guess I reread him again... What a pain.
Why on earth are you deciding to re-read someone who claimed blue early N2? Even if he is faking, the real JK is still in the game so you "filter diving" is pointless and a huge waste of your time and my attention span.
It almost seems to me like you're trying to do something without doing anything. I'll be damned!
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On December 04 2016 07:51 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2016 07:49 darthfoley wrote: Also willing to believe his JK claim because he did TMI slip sort of earlier on and Rels did catch it. Can you point out the Rels post about it? I'm really not sure on the order here, but I noticed it when I did my second list on him. Rels may have posted it before me though.
On December 03 2016 10:54 Rels wrote:I find this TMI convincing actually, it might be a scumslip if it's confirmed that we're setup 3. SL really used the word "jailkeeped" for no reason Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 18:46 sicklucker wrote:On December 02 2016 16:36 darthfoley wrote:On December 02 2016 16:22 emperorchampion wrote:On December 02 2016 16:14 Holyflare wrote: Also, df is 100% town. There's no way I basically claim blue like 6 times and he doesn't kill me over koshi. These would have killed you, wouldn't have killed you arguments are silly. Filter padding at it's finest. Don't think this applies to my case. HF blue claimed like 5 times and I spotted it instantly. He would've been my NK 1000%. Surprised no one else seemed to catch on to this trend. (i'm aware it's wifom) On November 30 2016 16:29 Holyflare wrote: You shouldn't lynch me. On December 01 2016 19:06 Holyflare wrote: Mafia gotta kill me. Dis gonna be good. On December 02 2016 00:23 Holyflare wrote: Mafia have to shoot me. It's super obvious what I am. On December 02 2016 05:02 Holyflare wrote: You should all be town reading me. Dunno why I'm not top, pretty obvious what I am. Killing HF is a good medic dodge cuz people were sus of him and he claimed blue. I know it's WIFOM but why wouldn't you take the chance as mafia? hf is not a medic dodge... hf is a fucking amazing n1 kill and he was probably jailkeeped last night rofl. Proof that hf was jailkeeped last night? koshi died and no one else was really worth using it on. So your entire arguments are dumb because CLEARLY HF IS NOT A GOOD MEDIC DODGE. CLEARLY HE WAS THE FUCKING SAVE LAST NIGHT
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On December 04 2016 07:52 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2016 07:49 mahrgell wrote: Hm, thinking about his JK claim though... One thing that makes sense about it is that he actually had this JK tmi "accident" earlier... I guess I reread him again... What a pain. Why on earth are you deciding to re-read someone who claimed blue early N2? Even if he is faking, the real JK is still in the game so you "filter diving" is pointless and a huge waste of your time and my attention span. It almost seems to me like you're trying to do something without doing anything. I'll be damned!
Uhm, I already said I would filter dive everyone... But no, I'm not buying his JK claim yet. But the JK tmi thing actually made me rethink it.
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On December 04 2016 07:45 mahrgell wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2016 07:44 Holyflare wrote:On December 04 2016 07:42 mahrgell wrote:On December 04 2016 07:41 Holyflare wrote: "this should not change the lynch"???? We have 0 mafia targets right now. Uhm.. I think this depends on if we buy the JK claim or not... No it doesn't, it makes him definite town. Walk me through, master. You are saying that when you are ultimatively fucked... Everyone wants to lynch you. And you play a setup against one Blue... It does not make sense to claim JK? And hope for a counter claim?
He's kind of right that the way he played yesterday doesn't make sense for mafia because ultimately he wanted to give a town Shapelog a chance to talk more (which I've seen town sl do a lot) and then he wanted to divert to a town modkill afk guy eventually. Doesn't make much sense for mafia.
Also, claiming jk in the night is super towny because it almost guarantees his death. The ultimate town sacrifice. Also a 1 for 1 trade with a town jail keeper is by far the most suboptimal play I would have seen in a long time. It's incredibly town favoured.
Then the tmi stuff.
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On December 04 2016 07:53 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2016 07:51 mahrgell wrote:On December 04 2016 07:49 darthfoley wrote: Also willing to believe his JK claim because he did TMI slip sort of earlier on and Rels did catch it. Can you point out the Rels post about it? I'm really not sure on the order here, but I noticed it when I did my second list on him. Rels may have posted it before me though. Show nested quote +On December 03 2016 10:54 Rels wrote:I find this TMI convincing actually, it might be a scumslip if it's confirmed that we're setup 3. SL really used the word "jailkeeped" for no reason On December 02 2016 18:46 sicklucker wrote:On December 02 2016 16:36 darthfoley wrote:On December 02 2016 16:22 emperorchampion wrote:On December 02 2016 16:14 Holyflare wrote: Also, df is 100% town. There's no way I basically claim blue like 6 times and he doesn't kill me over koshi. These would have killed you, wouldn't have killed you arguments are silly. Filter padding at it's finest. Don't think this applies to my case. HF blue claimed like 5 times and I spotted it instantly. He would've been my NK 1000%. Surprised no one else seemed to catch on to this trend. (i'm aware it's wifom) On November 30 2016 16:29 Holyflare wrote: You shouldn't lynch me. On December 01 2016 19:06 Holyflare wrote: Mafia gotta kill me. Dis gonna be good. On December 02 2016 00:23 Holyflare wrote: Mafia have to shoot me. It's super obvious what I am. On December 02 2016 05:02 Holyflare wrote: You should all be town reading me. Dunno why I'm not top, pretty obvious what I am. Killing HF is a good medic dodge cuz people were sus of him and he claimed blue. I know it's WIFOM but why wouldn't you take the chance as mafia? hf is not a medic dodge... hf is a fucking amazing n1 kill and he was probably jailkeeped last night rofl. Proof that hf was jailkeeped last night? koshi died and no one else was really worth using it on. So your entire arguments are dumb because CLEARLY HF IS NOT A GOOD MEDIC DODGE. CLEARLY HE WAS THE FUCKING SAVE LAST NIGHT This is a direct response to my post...
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wew I just had a nice relaxing shower before I became
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We actually need to know whether mafia can hold kp and not deliver because there is a situation where a mafia sl claims jk and holds a shot framing a town player claiming he jkd them.
In any respect that should automatically create a counter claim day and we would most likely lynch sl.
So yes super suboptimal.
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On December 04 2016 07:41 darthfoley wrote: Why would you come out now dude i seriously don't understand even if you're mad. It's fucking night and you weren't gonna die because you were super sus ??? You had like 72 hours to work with no?
literally whole town besides hf pre voted me =[
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HF do you agree with me that it's pointless for mahrgell to "filter dive" sl?
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On December 04 2016 07:54 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2016 07:45 mahrgell wrote:On December 04 2016 07:44 Holyflare wrote:On December 04 2016 07:42 mahrgell wrote:On December 04 2016 07:41 Holyflare wrote: "this should not change the lynch"???? We have 0 mafia targets right now. Uhm.. I think this depends on if we buy the JK claim or not... No it doesn't, it makes him definite town. Walk me through, master. You are saying that when you are ultimatively fucked... Everyone wants to lynch you. And you play a setup against one Blue... It does not make sense to claim JK? And hope for a counter claim? He's kind of right that the way he played yesterday doesn't make sense for mafia because ultimately he wanted to give a town Shapelog a chance to talk more (which I've seen town sl do a lot) and then he wanted to divert to a town modkill afk guy eventually. Doesn't make much sense for mafia. Also, claiming jk in the night is super towny because it almost guarantees his death. The ultimate town sacrifice. Also a 1 for 1 trade with a town jail keeper is by far the most suboptimal play I would have seen in a long time. It's incredibly town favoured. Then the tmi stuff.
I actually can see where you are coming from. It indeed is weird to fakeclaim JK at start of night...
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Humm Emp and Gell voting off by themselves is interesting. Possibly mafia not wanting to be part of a town lynch?
I mean I saw their reasoning for putting their votes where they did, but it still feels odd.
Meh I think I'm going out tonight. I'll relook at things tomorrow with fresh eyes.
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On December 04 2016 07:57 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2016 07:41 darthfoley wrote: Why would you come out now dude i seriously don't understand even if you're mad. It's fucking night and you weren't gonna die because you were super sus ??? You had like 72 hours to work with no? literally whole town besides hf pre voted me =[
But you could've come out after the NK? Anyways too late now so let's work with it under the assumption you have 24 hours to live
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