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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 30 2016 22:50 GMT
#1130
Okay fully caught up. Hf wasting his vote on Rels yet tells us to vote NU seems odd. Idk if this makes hf mafia or a idiot.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
November 30 2016 23:05 GMT
#1136
On December 01 2016 08:01 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 07:50 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay fully caught up. Hf wasting his vote on Rels yet tells us to vote NU seems odd. Idk if this makes hf mafia or a idiot.


I'm an idiot for telling people to stick on mafia?

Rolf your vote and what you told other to do don't line up. I would of expected you to convince other people to vote Rels since you kept your vote on him.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 05:39 GMT
#1178
I honestly just happy enough we got 1 scum lynched already but we need to look for the other 2 scum. I have a feeling scum had no pressure this game due to the lynch of NU actually happened or scum saw how weak he was and went for a bus on him. At least 1 mafia is on the NU wagon I pretty sure on this. Will take a closer look on everyone on the NU wagon tomorrow.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 13:21 GMT
#1235
On December 01 2016 18:17 Holyflare wrote:
LS when you get back can you give me a brief rundown of why you thought there was definitely mafia between NU and someone else?

On November 29 2016 23:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Something tells me there is a scum between NU and EC the tone between them don't seem exactly town on town. Call it a gut feeling nothing concrete about it. Don't think both would be mafia it doesn't feel like mafia on mafia talk especially since it not Shapelog bussing a teammate this early like he normally does (hint I think Shapelog is town this game).

Mainly I felt the tone was unnatural between each other IE Thought there was 1 mafia between the two in NU vs EC due that plus a gut feeling on it.
TLDR:
Felt something was off on tone at the time with some gut feelings about it too.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 13:28 GMT
#1237
Also Sicklucker had shown he can bus a teammate if needed i nthe past.
He bussed his partner HTS in Void here was his filter there granted it was a while ago:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475749-the-void-mafia?user=sicklucker
Also now I just remembered who rolled mafia like 10 times in a row or something like that and I think Koshi played with him.
Chairman Ray the guy who rolled mafia the most in a row on this site. Found this while looking at past games of sicklucker and checked the post of one of the games.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 13:35 GMT
#1238
On December 01 2016 22:26 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 22:21 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 01 2016 18:17 Holyflare wrote:
LS when you get back can you give me a brief rundown of why you thought there was definitely mafia between NU and someone else?

On November 29 2016 23:07 LightningStrike wrote:
Something tells me there is a scum between NU and EC the tone between them don't seem exactly town on town. Call it a gut feeling nothing concrete about it. Don't think both would be mafia it doesn't feel like mafia on mafia talk especially since it not Shapelog bussing a teammate this early like he normally does (hint I think Shapelog is town this game).

Mainly I felt the tone was unnatural between each other IE Thought there was 1 mafia between the two in NU vs EC due that plus a gut feeling on it.
TLDR:
Felt something was off on tone at the time with some gut feelings about it too.


Can you elaborate more? Link posts?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/515094-a-mini-with-funny-gifs?page=29#570
This part with my earlier quote why I thought it was TvM. Mainly tone was off I felt at the time plus some gut feeling about it. Maybe I should trust my gut feelings and tone stuff more and become Tina?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 13:49 GMT
#1241
On December 01 2016 22:45 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 22:28 LightningStrike wrote:
Also Sicklucker had shown he can bus a teammate if needed i nthe past.
He bussed his partner HTS in Void here was his filter there granted it was a while ago:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/475749-the-void-mafia?user=sicklucker
Also now I just remembered who rolled mafia like 10 times in a row or something like that and I think Koshi played with him.
Chairman Ray the guy who rolled mafia the most in a row on this site. Found this while looking at past games of sicklucker and checked the post of one of the games.


How representative is that game? It doesn't even feel like I'm reading the same player -.-
Or: how representative is this game here from him? Has he ever slacked this hard? As town or scum?

Like I said it was a while ago but it does pretty sums up how he would bus a partner who was in a bad situation or at least shown he had bussed players in the past so can't rule him out on that lynch alone.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 13:50 GMT
#1244
On December 01 2016 22:50 Rels wrote:
We're sorry, but the post you're trying to make is over 100000 characters long. No one wants to read that much text! If you think you have a valid reason for wanting to make a post this big, bring this issue up in the Website Feedback forum. (Note: if you're doing a copy/paste from somewhere else, just summarize and link to the original source.)

LOL

Wrong place?
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 13:51 GMT
#1245
Oh lmao thought you meant to post that in another thread or some shit.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 13:52 GMT
#1247
On December 01 2016 22:51 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 01 2016 22:50 Rels wrote:
We're sorry, but the post you're trying to make is over 100000 characters long. No one wants to read that much text! If you think you have a valid reason for wanting to make a post this big, bring this issue up in the Website Feedback forum. (Note: if you're doing a copy/paste from somewhere else, just summarize and link to the original source.)

LOL


Did you try to C+P an entire game?

Who would try to copy and paste the entire game on TL Mafia lmao.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 13:55 GMT
#1252
Oh just a huge list of NU spews lmao.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 15:27 GMT
#1295
Well I didn't think I would do this but I will expand on the case on Shapelog that Koshi and others did:
1. Potental TMI:
So here was Shapelog's opening:
On November 29 2016 11:07 Shapelog wrote:
Cop btw

This rather curious as we now know there is a Framer flipped which narrowed us down to set 1, 2, or 3 which all had a Framer but the fact now that I think about it Shapelog either tried to force a Cop claim Day 1 with his opening or is the real cop but here the jucy part I did ask him about his Cop claim here:
On November 29 2016 12:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also you still haven't explained why you claimed cop Shape so please answer this because I don't know in what world you thought it was a good call to claim cop.

His response to it:
On November 29 2016 12:37 Shapelog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 12:23 LightningStrike wrote:
I here now was playing some League games so I can comperhend why you would claim cop and still can't....
On November 29 2016 11:57 Shapelog wrote:
Honestly do not know what to make of Koshi Trump (Make town great again 2016) shit right now. Kinda honestly enjoy it, as long as it is productive. None of it screams scum so far from what I read. As in regard to Onegu vs. Koshi, I know where he is coming from on those points, and saw them too reading through the game. I personally don't see it scummy honestly, but I do see koshi as a light townread for what he has done so far.

He also keep going after he stop talking about Onegu. I would like for him to explain his earlier sentiment on why LS good in his eyes. I've seen some of the LS I know, but some other stuff that worry me that I'll address later in this post. Like to bounce views from someone with the opposite view (this goes with anyone else as well

Onegu posting style I have not really seen from him. Therefore I am going to wait and see what comes out of it and read it from a contextual viewpoint.

I kinda get a ill tonal feeling from LS due to this post:
On November 29 2016 10:11 LightningStrike wrote:
On November 29 2016 10:07 darthfoley wrote:
Howdy y'all

I decree that no one is allowed to town read LS for random shit capslock posts. Throwback to the cell mafia game; still a little salty about that.

slight town lead on NU/Koshi/mahrgell. I agreed with NU's point on LS in that it seemed a bit forced; don't understand the need to clarify when you last played. Koshi's intro play seems standard town and similar to the one game I've played with him. mahrgell's entrance reminds me of his town play last game.

Don't like emperor so far. Filter complete shite, though it's pretty early game. Same for siclucker; reminds me a bit of his cell mafia play early on iirc. I generally don't like trolly playstyles, so not sure what to make of Onegu so far. At least he's active.

I sorry that Damdred told me break that meta man I felt so guilty honestly and still a bit lost on trying to find a new town style. I am town this game so no need to worry I will carry us. Also since you are here what other thoughts you got?

Not only does this feel kinda like he's trying to twist the image. But it also doesn't make logical sense to say you are experimenting and trying to find a new style for your town play (impaling that your past one didn't work). Then saying i'm town, everything is fine, trust me. Maybe I'm overthinking it, but it didn't make sense.

Otherwise LS is playing like how I remember him to play early on.

Other people:
Darth sounds pretty fine, light townread for now.
Marg posted some stuff, didn't stand out to me one way or another.
Emp and SL posted and peaced.
Tictock is slight town read as well, though I need to analzye his posts some more.
NU still needs be work through.

You are overthinking it. The twist was alll in your head. Anyways once you get done with all the people you said you were trying to read can you update your stance on them?

No. I am going to lock them in a box and ship them to China.

Yes I'm bloody updating them!
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2016 12:25 LightningStrike wrote:
Also you still haven't explained why you claimed cop Shape so please answer this because I don't know in what world you thought it was a good call to claim cop.

Because playing a boring game with breadcrumbs and shit, and being good townie with good read and stuff is boring! Edgelord for life.

And I only claimed I was cop, I might not be cop. I could be a doctor, a goon, or vt. I can be anything I want, just like mum told me!

Are you triggered yet?

This gave further information if he flips that the set up was set up 1 which was Cop Doctor vs RB Framer and goon.
Point 2: Meta
Shapelog as scum fails to go on his promises as shown here in Tortoise Mafia and Storm Mafia:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/505463-tl-mafia-lxxiv-storm-mafia-3?user=Shapelog
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/507600-cap-tortoise-mafia?user=Shapelog
Yes Shapelog claimed about not being able to play for some time of this game affected him but however as town I would think he would still fullfill what promises he made this game.
3rd Point: Koshi's and others point about NU and Shapelog potential partners
What Koshi and others had said Shapelog and NU never really interacted with each other directly which could be a part of distancing themselves from each other due to how bad NU was looking throughout the game in other people's eyes.

TLDR:
1. Potentially TMI'd the setup early
2. Meta says scum
3. Koshi's and other's point.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 15:29 GMT
#1297
Also you guys need to know lynch Shapelog with fire!
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 15:30 GMT
#1298
Going to be on mobile now as I going to school but I wil answer any questions towards me as long I don't need to do direct quoting.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 15:37 GMT
#1300
Actually I am at home still thought I was leaving early so I can do direct quoting and stuff if needed until 10:00 am CST.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 15:46 GMT
#1302
On December 02 2016 00:41 Rels wrote:
LS:
1 - I don't believe this proves anything. Shape has shown liking to write stupid stuff and doing stupid things as either alignment, especially during early game. I can see him writing these posts as town or scum just for fun if he's town, or WIFOMing the setup if he's scum.
2 - That sounds more promising. What promises did he break ?
3 - Yep 100% agree.

Promises he broke:
On November 30 2016 22:30 Shapelog wrote:
Urg. Not being able to play yesterday messed me up.

Got my busier schedule today. When I get time, i'll filter.

I thought of something about SL last night however. I'm not terribly sure about it yet, and honestly, the evidence to support it is very very very bad. But in a previous mafia game (can't remember the name), I fake claimed mafia early into the game (was town). Scum!SL jumped on it, and pushed the fact that I could (due to my "eccrtice" past) be doing that as mafia to look fearless. He used it also to justify tunneling me for the day phase.

Here, SL did not take that liberty. Instead, he just nodded and left it be, while trying to gain info (post about the discussion being bad between me and LS but townie) from what happens around it. He could of jumped on it if he was mafia (especially this time with my claim.) yet didn't.

I know it was one game, but he had a opportunity to push me for it and didn't take it. thoughts (even tho i won't be here in 10 mins :/)?

He didn't really try to catch up or didn't show he really did as his last post was this:
On November 30 2016 22:32 Shapelog wrote:
Also Onegu stole the way I catch up.

Thief!

That and the timing on some his promises into do something did happen but later than what he said he was going to do.

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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 16:00 GMT
#1303
Okay on mobile for real now.
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 16:07 GMT
#1304
I sad noone wants to talk to me atm
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LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 16:26 GMT
#1307
On December 02 2016 01:23 Tictock wrote:
Having internet issues at home so I'm better Nguyen forced to read and post via mobile. Means I won't be doing the filter dives of death and Shape that I wanted too.

Thinking about the game this morning I'm thinking the answer might be as easy as Shape/Ch8. Otherwise I have a hard time seeing what mafia was doing in the latter half of the day as NU became the lynch. Checkm8 is also reminding me a bit of foreman from last game, who was a newbie that rolled scum and gave up posting after a day when he realized he had no way to keep up.

It's possible Onegu is scum but his posts right after the lynch seem fairly towns to me actually. He was more happy about his own filter length than having caught scum. I feel like scum would feel more pressure to fake being happy about the lynch.

I was thinking the same thing it would explain why scum had no presence at EoD to get votes off NU.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 01 2016 16:41 GMT
#1310
On December 02 2016 01:36 mahrgell wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2016 01:23 Tictock wrote:
Having internet issues at home so I'm better Nguyen forced to read and post via mobile. Means I won't be doing the filter dives of death and Shape that I wanted too.

Thinking about the game this morning I'm thinking the answer might be as easy as Shape/Ch8. Otherwise I have a hard time seeing what mafia was doing in the latter half of the day as NU became the lynch. Checkm8 is also reminding me a bit of foreman from last game, who was a newbie that rolled scum and gave up posting after a day when he realized he had no way to keep up.

It's possible Onegu is scum but his posts right after the lynch seem fairly towns to me actually. He was more happy about his own filter length than having caught scum. I feel like scum would feel more pressure to fake being happy about the lynch.


LOL
If this is true, there is the possibility the game ends in few hours. Nobody is killed, because scum fails to vote a kill. Instead Shlog and CM8 get modkilled for failing to post, after being already warned for failing to vote. Game ends, 0 town lost.

Just thinking about this possibility kills my motivation to do my last 2 filter dives. -.-

You should do your filter dives anyways.
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