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On November 30 2016 13:11 NeverUnlucky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 13:04 emperorchampion wrote:On November 30 2016 13:02 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 30 2016 13:01 emperorchampion wrote:On November 30 2016 12:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 30 2016 12:52 emperorchampion wrote:On November 29 2016 22:59 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 29 2016 22:53 Checkm8 wrote:On November 29 2016 22:00 Koshi wrote:Or explain to me how HF his post was not unnecessarily combative. And why me calling him out on a friendly way is mafia. + Show Spoiler + Because it's a little too friendly? I dunno, like I said, it's a gut read. And I didn't say that his post was unnecessary and aggressive and trolly, it's just that in most games I've played (ToS games) the friendly ones are usually evil roles trying to win town's affection or something.
On November 29 2016 17:08 Checkm8 wrote: I'm siding with Onegu just because I play dota like him (bros) And leaning scum towards LS because he plays league (dota before hoes) And farming 15 mins for blink dagger is one that requires skill, something league players need to have :3 Calix is a girl! I thought girls are imaginary in the internet.
No srsly I feel that NU is scummy as he's trying to pull something out of thin air from LS' comments...I personally think that LS' comments were something that you throw in there as something friendly or something to start conversations with...using that as a scum read feels too shallow, tho it's understandable as there's nothing too concrete at day 1. Still leaning towards NU as scum. This post is not natural to me. 1) No mention of c8 when he actually makes quoted post (2). After quoted post (1) comes out, NU goes to reference it. 2) Makes me think NU was filtering c8 looking for something that looks bad to push him on it. Thoughts? I don't quite understand 1) :3 But I did not filter checkm8 when I did that post. The first quote was directly directed to me, so it was fresh in my mind, and the second one was made while I was online, so I made the connection. On November 30 2016 12:53 emperorchampion wrote: @NU, to answer a previous question: started thinking you were looking pretty bad, went to thinking you were OK and should maybe be left alone, now back to looking pretty bad. Yeh, I figured that, I was asking why that is. Well at the moment I don't really understand where in the game you're at. So where are you at? I'm up to date, I was thinking of filtering SL before heading to bed (in 15-20 minutes). Who is town for you, and who is mafia for you? Town: Koshi, DF CM8, Rels, mahr, Onegu*** Mafia: SL tbh you asking me this makes me doubt that you are a mafia. You seem to want to try to understand me. good back and forth with EC.
But as you can see. EC is the aggressor. NU is the defender.
EC is town bois. NU is mafia!Koshi not having a good time.
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I like TT his listpost, but I dislike the EC/NU is mafia on mafia thing. That completely breaks it. And then he votes EC over NU.
Completely wrong.
That is why he is on spot 4 in the list.
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I also don't understand what happened with HF.
Somewhere he makes a post which says "I am going to let Koshi control this thread and let his scumreads attack me for not doing a lot."
Which is a VERY STRONG VOTE of confidence, because it means he agrees with my townreads and mafia reads. But since then he has been undermining me with little dumb posts while I just keep going strong and my mafia reads are still being underwhelming / plain mafia.
Very odd this is.
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Nobody establishes a new meta like this. You say you will/want to do it, but you never do it.
I will put a lot of effort in soon to read EC again and again. But atm I can't see him be mafia. I even think he plays quite good as town atm. Changing your opinion on your main scumread on a whim back and forth, questioning your scumread are both top town qualities.
It is when you change your opinion on somebody you don't talk about, to fit some agenda, that it is more likely mafia. But in the open on your top scumread? Nha. That is not mafia.
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On November 30 2016 18:41 Holyflare wrote: It's not really odd. You didn't push me for pushing Margaret which I thought was very weird. You completely ditched your tt vote based on nothing when he plays the same way he's playing now (afk) as both alignments. You were posting about afking a lot and returning to not really post any follow up to anything. Like Margaret said, jabbing from the sidelines.
Vote on me is whatever but it's incongruous with what you've been saying about me, "there's a reason hf might be town but it's not the speed of votes," "hf's posts sheeping me were cool and showed confidence in a read," "Margaret fell down a bit, maybe hf was right," and then you followed rels for some bull shit reason of "i didn't like that post." which is bs because like margarine is saying above in his new list "hf pushed me for correct things" so you and rels, your reasons for disliking me based on one post is bull shit when the person AGREES with what I've been saying about them. You post si much about how i could be town but then I'm second and even first in your list of mafia. It's crap.
I don't hate your nu post now. But he did play this way as town in a recent game but that was d3 onwards so I'm hesitant to just follow it.
Sl not pushing me and instead sheeping me is fucking weird when I'm pushing a new player. Being super fluent in the thread is a 100% town thread of mine Mr. Holyflare. You know how I play mafia after playing the last 3 games together. This is really really really not it.
Not even close.
So yeah, you stay on spot 2 or 3.
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fuck my life
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On November 30 2016 18:47 mahrgell wrote: At least one thing connects HF and Koshi: Both have this unpleasant kind of "I clearly can't be scum, and this is proven" posts. Has this ever worked? Well... looking at Koshis recent scum wins (and late survival in D2), I guess it did. Well. Everybody makes posts that they can't be scum. Basically the point of the game.
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I don't even know where I said that you could be town to ls.
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On November 30 2016 18:50 mahrgell wrote: Anyway, to get back on track, let me repeat my theoretical question:
If you have 2 players, both highly suspicious, but certainly not both can be scum at the same time. Lynch one or not? As I said, in IRL mafia with 3 scum alive, I wouldn't lynch either but wait and see. How about online with the more town favored numbers? Always lynch in them. Always.
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On November 30 2016 18:52 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 17:29 Koshi wrote:On November 30 2016 11:51 LightningStrike wrote:On November 30 2016 11:41 darthfoley wrote:On November 30 2016 11:36 LightningStrike wrote: Also kinda disliking the HF wagon that formed rather quickly but then again the last time I said about a wagon on HF forming quickly was when HF was scum so (shrugs). I mean his filter is basically calling mahrgell shit, not posting about anyone else, then saying he doesn't feel like doing shit. That's someone you prefer to keep around? He is considered one of the best players regardless of his alignment to play. My biggest issue again is how quickly the wagon formed. Most of the time when a wagon forms fast that person is likely town or a weak scum player and hf isn't considered a weak scum player normally. second person who says this but I am pretty sure it is only Rels and I who voted him. And I pasted my voted after Rels to just give the wagon some more prominence. It's all good. HF is maybe not mafia but it is not because the wagon formed on him too quickly. Please disregard that idea. ahh. Ok. Yes. ofc I am not sure. Still you are on spot 2 to get lynched.
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On November 30 2016 18:58 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 01:25 NeverUnlucky wrote:On November 30 2016 01:21 mahrgell wrote: Btw, NU, what made you lean-T on Onegu? I recognize myself in him, and he's funny. I also think that his "Where is everyone?" and "SL was here then left..." posts were town. However, I don't think he's the most town itt anymore because he has yet to make a serious post which worries me. I can see where Koshi is coming from with the Dandel comparison. Off for a while The problem is Koshi knows you cant meta read me or compare me to any other players. I try to change my meta on purpose every few games because I enjoy rolling scum more and when I roll scum I want to last longer so I can play it more. Koshi actually trying to make me look bad is very concerning to me. You look bad on your own. I don't have to try. I am just pointing it out.
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HF do you think Rels is possible mafia?
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On November 30 2016 19:53 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 19:45 Koshi wrote: HF do you think Rels is possible mafia? All I know about rels is that he posted about Marcel and said that he/she was completely different to last game, complained about margarine's approach to the game being wildly different and bad and then voted me for pressuring his read. Margaret doesn't even appear in his scum list at the end of it. I think his read through was bad and achieved nothing, said nothing of note and then he left. He could very well be mafia. Ok. I need to reread but yes, I had a bad feeling based on nothing concrete yet. Going to see what he really talks about.
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With better grammar
Ok. I need to reread but yes, I have a bad feeling based on nothing concrete yet. Going to see what he really talked about yesterday with me.
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After not reading Rels his filter which is the next thing I will do. But during workhours and not my pause ^.^
Mafia to town:
13. NeverUnlucky 12. Tictock 11. sicklucker 1. Rels 4. Onegu 2. Holyflare 3. Shapelog 6. darthfoley 8. Checkm8 9. mahrgell 10. emperorchampion 5. LightningStrike
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Yes. It really depends on how Rels continues. If he stays this inactive he is mafia. I already got completely outplayed by scum!Rels once and I know this is well within his range. Town!Rels will shine through over time. Far from there yet. My mistake.
With Onegu vouching this hard on HF, and sicklucker basically doing the same I have to put HF quite low on the lynchlist. It's not that his posts are so incredibly bad. Rels, df and I put pressure in him. 2 people defended him hard, he said things, it's good enough for now.
Progression is being made.
13. NeverUnlucky 12. Tictock 4. Onegu 11. sicklucker 1. Rels 3. Shapelog 2. Holyflare 6. darthfoley 10. emperorchampion 8. Checkm8 9. mahrgell 5. LightningStrike
Sicklucker, Rels are both high because I expect things from them. Put EC a bit higher out of respect of other people their reads. But if TT/NU are mafia he is kinda confirmed town and I am living in that world.
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I am extremely happy with that list.
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On November 30 2016 20:49 sicklucker wrote: Its also pretty annoying when I call 3 people mafia and everyone ignores that and says "im not doing anything". Its really hard to find 3 mafia on day 1 you know Well... I think mahrgell is town. darth same. Care to convince me otherwise?
Onegu/TT Do you have any reason to believe these 2 are town?
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Hmm. I am willing to trade TT for either mahrgell or darth.
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