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On December 02 2016 02:46 Holyflare wrote:
I'm really suspicious/tin foil about ls if anyone asks btw. Being blunt I'll find it really weird that he said nu vs ec was mvt but couldn't say why or name which one was which.
Then the slip thing. If he's right and town then he's playing very well, better than I've ever seen him tbh.
I'm with you on that brother. Calling that out so early, not deciding which was which, and then NOT VOTING ON EITHER (he didn't vote for anyone the entire day) is fucking weird
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Post D1 mafia is so fun, love it
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The more I look at it, the more convinced I am that NU bussed himself intentionally. That's literally the only way I can understand his EoD play
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On December 02 2016 03:05 Tictock wrote:
@Darth I don't think you say "I'm town" a million times if you are trying to go down for your team.
It's a great way to go down for the team because it sounds on the surface like something a town might say EoD when they're on the block. But this and the rest of his EoD lacked any urgency. Saying I'm town 1400 times won't actually get anyone to switch their vote, but it artificially seems like you're trying to get people to switch their vote.
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On December 02 2016 03:07 mahrgell wrote:
@DF
And now to the general idea.
Pure feeling dictated me exactly this idea too. It was pretty much the idea with which I went into my diving session this morning. (then I got distracted by Rels -.-) It just... lead to nowhere.
If he was doing it for towncred, then whos towncred?
Emp? Yeah, he got a shit ton of towncred from it. But I really believe he is town :D
Koshi? Quite similar. Like I can see a lot of tinfoils involving Koshi. But I will let those rest for now.
SL? Did he even get towncred from it? lol. Like you make it sound like this was some great elaborate bussing play with NU taking one for the team. This does not fit SLs play at all. Like I'm really not sold on him, and given his contributions so far he is pretty much on the same level as HF and CM8 for me... But if that is the case, then it certainly isn't a great elaborate play but pure chaos.
Myself? I have great insider infos telling me that this isn't the case.
Or towncred via on of his spews? If this was the case... It may actually be worth looking at who pointed out which spew. Doing this and hoping that town finds thsoe spews sounds like an awful idea. But if it is really this, then you could find both scum at once here.
Well there are a few possibilities that I haven't worked through yet.
1. One of my stronger TRs is off (You, Koshi, EC)
2. Just because he tried, doesn't mean it worked. This could manifest itself in a couple potential ways
2a) sicklucker is the mafia partner and the town-cred strategy didn't work
2b) NU was either expecting or hoping one of his teammates would be back before EoD to pile on the train. This line of thought is with the three non-voters (Checkm8, Shapelog, LS). This could work with either LS or Shape, who both sort of gently committed to scum reading NU. We've discussed that there are problems with both Shapelog and LS's NU read: in the case of Shape, it was wishy washy to the max; in the case of LS, he only committed to NU > EC after direct questioning, no?
My point is, given that both of them had sowed some reason to scum read NU, it could be believable for them to come back near EoD, see only the one train on NU, and jump on board both having some meh reason for doing so
i.e. - well i'm not sold on this, but i've scum read him and no other trains are happening, so of course my vote makes sense! And now we learn that LS intended to be back before EoD but wasn't 
Perhaps i'm getting too tinfoily lol
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Interested to see how this night goes. As of now, I definitely think Shapelog is the lynch. I've never seen him be this inactive for this long + everything everyone has already said
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Yea mahrgell you've been good the past two games. You put in the time
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On December 02 2016 04:41 Rels wrote:
A big thing to use when trapping scum!HF is seeing if he tries to destroy people with pretty arguments or not. And I had this impression that he was burrying me over exactly that each time I tried to post, wasting the little time I had. But reading his filter with a calm mind he's always replying more or less logically to something.
And now I really found his "LS might be scum" post townie. I disagree with it, but it was a new thought out of nowhere which can make sense.
Apologies if I missed it, where's your head right now with the 2 mafia? Still the spew posts from a few pages back?
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On December 02 2016 04:53 Rels wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2016 07:47 darthfoley wrote:Don't agree with Koshi's TR on Checkm8. He's pulled the "im a newb" thing at least twice, and he has only mentioned like one "gut" read. He's scummier than town for now, although I don't think he's at the top of my list atm. Being a first time player is a bit intimidating from either alignment On November 29 2016 11:24 Tictock wrote:
This is pretty standard Early game for me, idk what you all are talking about.
I dare you to meta me. I mean I literally just played a game with you where you were town and you didn't play D1 like this at all. You were aggressive and went after people, asked many more questions, and seemed perfectly invested in the game-- all while there was pressure on you. So unless you've lost the mafia passion after doing really well last game individually/winning as a town within the last two weeks, your excuse is a little hard to buy. You did ask about me and EC, but it seemed half assed. TT is in my scum lean pile Also not a fan of HF so far. He's kind of a being a dick which is NAI(?) but annoying. Especially after playing a game with NU and Calix. I made similar points against mahrgell last game but I was wrong, and he's playing very similar to that game-- though mahrgell is being a little over combative. HF has spent 80% of his filter grilling one dude and I don't see the point from a town perspective, especially as a uber veteran of TL mafia. If someone can make a post explaining why he/she thinks LS is town for reasons other than BS meta claims I'd love to hear it. I got burned last time people simply accepted a meta town read of LS so I want to hear something real.
I do think the dynamic between LS/NU/EC is a bit interesting (LS claiming that EC vs. NU is MvT). Not sure where I stand on that yet besides that i'm town reading NU and i'm up in the air between the other two.
Mahrgell/Koshi/Shape and probably Rels are on my town pile for now. DF why did you not include NU in your town list if you were townreading him ?
Cuz I didn't wanna be redundant most likely
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On December 02 2016 06:05 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2016 03:14 darthfoley wrote:On December 02 2016 03:05 Tictock wrote:
@Darth I don't think you say "I'm town" a million times if you are trying to go down for your team. It's a great way to go down for the team because it sounds on the surface like something a town might say EoD when they're on the block. But this and the rest of his EoD lacked any urgency. Saying I'm town 1400 times won't actually get anyone to switch their vote, but it artificially seems like you're trying to get people to switch their vote. Ok I can see what you mean, but I still get the sense he was hoping to avoid the lynch. We will just have to disagree. This whole line of thought is pretty WIFOM and I'm not sure it's really productive. It is possible that there was mafia on the NU wagon, but I kinda doubt it right now.
Yea I know it's WIFOM, which is one of the reasons I think Shapelog is the obvious lynch rn
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On December 02 2016 05:06 Rels wrote:
DF can you explain your LS read please ?
Meh i've never been as high on him for Town as others have. I like his case on Shapelog-- I had noticed that potential TMI on the claim as soon as NU flipped Framer. I guess my only qualm with it is that it came after the casing of mine and Koshi(?) so idk if it proves all the valuable.
His non-vote looks bad and i'm not completely sold with his response to HF/mahrgell. Doesn't mean much if you've said who you prefer of the TvM if it took some questioning to get it out of you. My mind is open and I'll be interested to see how the game continues, he's around null for now. I've kinda had this tinfoil similar to HF for a while, but some of that is rooted in how badly he spanked us in the cell game, and I don't want him to get away with it again. I know the format is different so it would be a lot harder to pull off for extended periods of time, which is why i'm not very concerned atm. Maybe if Shapelog flips town and some other shit goes down idk
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i'm gonna be really annoyed if it's another game with 2 inactive mafia like shapelog and checkm8. 2 ez
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The fact that I have a larger filter than Shapelog and it's almost EoN1 is as concerning as the cases against him
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don't understand why the medic or jk didn't save Koshi. Thought he was most town
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I'm also a bit surprised Koshi was so aggressive as cop. T.T
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I shall also commence the festivities
##Vote: Shapelog
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On December 02 2016 08:15 Holyflare wrote:
Koshi kill confirms me town.
##vote Shapelog
lol how?
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EPT
