EPTthat does rather blow a hole in my master plan of getting my name cleared.
is there an Atticus Finch or Henry Fonda out there willing to take my case?
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that does rather blow a hole in my master plan of getting my name cleared. is there an Atticus Finch or Henry Fonda out there willing to take my case? | ||
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Why would I try to get the train off of my framer when 4 potential votes are AFK-- 4 votes that I would definitely need to actually get the train off of NU. I realize that the lazy play is to just call me obvious mafia and waste the next three days talking about fuck all, but the lazy play =/= the right play | ||
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On November 30 2016 02:32 Shapelog wrote: It was a joke vote. Tbh, no one is in the realm lynch with fire. I haven't really gone through everything how I want to yet. For example, I've read NU's posts in the last few pages, but haven't honestly updated my read yet (due to being at school) that I had before. Given what TT posted, I wouldn't mind lynching him. Like I said, Koshi shows some mafia mindset that he founded in TT's first few posts. Moreover, I think TT not wanting to be a part in the Onegu Vs Koshi fight is sus. as well. Also giving the fact that he was trying to scum read Koshi on matters about it (Koshi tryharding IIRC) is what I picture scum to be doing. So off the top of my head, he would be the first lynch. About CM8. CM8 really doesn't have a lot of stuff with content. I feel like he is playing the newbie card, and wanted him to stop doing so. Tone thing I saw sure. But I really don't have a lot to go off on him about. Hopeing my question gets info out of him. Maybe a policy lynch. SL is PL mostly bc I've seen him actually do stuff around this time. Rels is afk so also a PL. Rest are either town or i'm thinking of atm. To remind you of that read... On November 30 2016 02:32 Shapelog wrote: It was a joke vote. Tbh, no one is in the realm lynch with fire. I haven't really gone through everything how I want to yet. For example, I've read NU's posts in the last few pages, but haven't honestly updated my read yet (due to being at school) that I had before. Given what TT posted, I wouldn't mind lynching him. Like I said, Koshi shows some mafia mindset that he founded in TT's first few posts. Moreover, I think TT not wanting to be a part in the Onegu Vs Koshi fight is sus. as well. Also giving the fact that he was trying to scum read Koshi on matters about it (Koshi tryharding IIRC) is what I picture scum to be doing. So off the top of my head, he would be the first lynch. About CM8. CM8 really doesn't have a lot of stuff with content. I feel like he is playing the newbie card, and wanted him to stop doing so. Tone thing I saw sure. But I really don't have a lot to go off on him about. Hopeing my question gets info out of him. Maybe a policy lynch. SL is PL mostly bc I've seen him actually do stuff around this time. Rels is afk so also a PL. Rest are either town or i'm thinking of atm. If that "read" doesn't give you 13 ways to wiggle out of committing to a read, I don't know what does. How many times do you have to say "this is scummy but it's also in his townie meta!" in one post before you get a finger wag? | ||
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On November 29 2016 13:31 Shapelog wrote: There really isn't a lot from his filter that made me feel either way (unsurprisingly, is early game after all). Typically, I would say this post's tone is most likely coming from a scum than a townie. Mostly due to how close minded it is. And how it gives a very strong opinion in such a early part of the game (ex. That looks forced. at the end). Problem is, its NU. Tonally, he is capable of this as town. I still think he stressed out his point a bit given the time at which the post came out. But I am considering that it might just be his normal tone coming out here. Otherwise, his point is a valid one. Here I kinda lose him. At first, I thought he founded tonal issues that I founded as well with LS. But in truth, he's talking about the excuse from LS about why he wasn't here. It is different from Onegu's post yes, that we can see clearly. But he is overstressing the "nicey nice" part of the excuse LS made (I use excuse as in why he wasn't here). Personally, nothing is wrong with that post from LS imo. Its just a "hey sorry was busy and now I am here" post made to reconnect to the thread. His reasoning on why Onegu post is different, and why he thinks it is townie is fine however. Overall he has been overstressing things more than they should, which is more AI of a scum player than a town player. But, NU tone as town in previous games is like that. And while he did say he was trying to change his meta, tone and writing style is harder to change than just what you post. He's null/light scum read, but once he posts more content posts (along with everyone else), I will relook. If that "read" doesn't give you 13 ways to wiggle out of committing to a read, I don't know what does. How many times do you have to say "this is scummy but it's also in his townie meta!" in one post before you get a finger wag? There are so many contradictions and outs he gives himself. Given the amount of times he claims something to be in his town meta, he doesn't earn his final read of null/slight scum ^EBWOP^ | ||
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On December 01 2016 08:55 darthfoley wrote: If that "read" doesn't give you 13 ways to wiggle out of committing to a read, I don't know what does. How many times do you have to say "this is scummy but it's also in his townie meta!" in one post before you get a finger wag? There are so many contradictions and outs he gives himself. Given the amount of times he claims something to be in his town meta, he doesn't earn his final read of null/slight scum ^EBWOP^ quoting at top of page | ||
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To answer a few questions, namely the HF question about why I voted for him... I voted for you for a few reasons; it kinda bordered on policy lynch: you hadn't really done anything worth noting and I hate when people say like 14 times that they're lazy and can't be arsed to do anything; it isn't a town tell for me. I also voted with two of my town reads at the time who agreed with me. I've already explained why I believe this line of thinking to be smart, especially when you're not a strong town so to speak. This vote happened, iirc, before I was made aware of your meta and how you were too valuable to lynch D1, regardless of alignment. I have the same role in my IRL college mafia group as you do on here, so I understood the sentiment and backed off. Regarding my bad play EoD, here's what I was thinking: This NU train seems too easy. Everyone coalescing on one train-- no one really pushing another train. This included EC, who had cased TT pretty effectively IMO, posted about how he would get off NU if someone "pushed it", then didn't really follow my lead when I voted TT. I started to get very paranoid vibes; there were three non votes 30 min before dead which is basically the same as when scum park votes 6-10 hours before deadline and EC wasn't voting for the person I thought he should be voting for. I interpreted this to mean that town had gotten it wrong and that scum were perfectly happy having one lynch train that was wrong. I voted for TT following my unvote on HF partially because I thought at the time that TT had a decent chance of being mafia, and partially because I wanted to see whether my wagon for TT would gain any traction-- especially from the 3 non-voters who coincidentally came back just in time to vote for TT. Thought this could be beneficial to town regardless of NU's flip. Always think two wagons is preferred if possible. You can look at my other games. I always get really stressed about EoD1 because I'm shit at D1 and there was tons of activity. | ||
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I knew my vote on NU near the deadline wasn't going to get me town-cred either way, but I wanted to solidify the wagon so the vote couldn't be influenced by 3 non-voters coming back <30 min before deadline and doing shenanigans. Also voted for NU because that one post about "it's a great case, you're right :/" was so fucking different from the last game I played with town!NU that I was comfortable voting for him. That response, especially given his flip leads me to believe one of two hypotheses: he intentionally tried to keep the only viable train on himself so at least one partner could gain much needed town-cred through EoD. This is ESPECIALLY true considering NU was the framer and it's 11v2 EoD1! You need to make sure at least one of your partners will not be cop checked for at least a few nights, so at least one of your partners needs to gain enough town-cred through your death that he will never be a cop check until D3/D4. The other, more lazy, scenario is that both of his mafia partners were inactive EoD (e.g. Shapelog/Checkm8) and he didn't care enough to set up anything because of how shit his teammates were being. | ||
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On December 02 2016 02:12 emperorchampion wrote: Ugh there was someone who was pressuring c8 that he completely neglected, and I was going to ask him about it, but I completely forgot who it was and couldn't find it any filters. I was putting a bit of pressure on Cm8 EoD if that's what you're remembering | ||
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A few other points worth nothing: I knew my vote on NU near the deadline wasn't going to get me town-cred either way, but I wanted to solidify the wagon so the vote couldn't be influenced by 3 non-voters coming back <30 min before deadline and doing shenanigans. Also voted for NU because that one post about "it's a great case, you're right :/" was so fucking different from the last game I played with town!NU that I was comfortable voting for him. That response, especially given his flip leads me to believe one of two hypotheses: he intentionally tried to keep the only viable train on himself so at least one partner could gain much needed town-cred through EoD. This is ESPECIALLY true considering NU was the framer and it's 11v2 EoD1! You need to make sure at least one of your partners will not be cop checked for at least a few nights, so at least one of your partners needs to gain enough town-cred through your death that he will never be a cop check until D3/D4. The other, more lazy, scenario is that both of his mafia partners were inactive EoD (e.g. Shapelog/Checkm8) and he didn't care enough to set up anything because of how shit his teammates were being. | ||
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On December 02 2016 02:22 mahrgell wrote: @DF You said you suspected TT at end of town, but now I don't see how he fits in your new scenarios... What do you make of him? Well the biased part of me wants to town-read everyone who put pressure on me post-flip then backed off and gave me the benefit of the doubt based off of my posting style (including TT). I think it's a lot easier to keep putting pressure on me instead of backing off. He did a pretty even-handed analysis imo. However, there's so much time left in this day that mafia doesn't want to seem like they're coming to a conclusion this early so maybe this point is moot. I need to sort out the mess between you, Rels, and HF for the time being. I agree that EC is almost certainly town and Koshi is still in my town pile. You also strike me as pretty town. As of now, I think Shapelog is the obvious lynch, and i'm still confused why Checkm8 is still not in top 2/3 for lynches. The dude is literally MIA. Town points for TT as well for equating him to Foreman. The comparison is spot on, except that Foreman was a huge cock to people D1 while Checkm8 was doing his best not to ruffle any feathers. | ||
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On December 01 2016 06:51 beentheredonethat wrote: Day 1 Vote Count ![[image loading]](https://media.giphy.com/media/Ya5eRNQUcNGQ8/giphy.gif)
Not voting (3): Shapelog, LightningStrike, Checkm8 Remember, voting is mandatory. Day 1 will end in at Wednesday, Nov 30 10:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00). Currently, NeverUnlucky is slated to be lynched. Only votes in the voting thread and with the correct format will be counted. The vote didn't count my vote on NU. Was it really because I didn't bold it? Lol meh. I moved myself into the NU VC even though I wasn't technically there FYI, for clarity. For right now, I'm thinking something like this? Checkm8 has been so bad with activity that idk. I have a very hard time seeing everyone on the NU train as town considering the next closest wagon had 2 votes. | ||
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On December 02 2016 02:37 Tictock wrote: Darth I think you are pretty off base with this "NU tried to keep himself the only wagon so his buddy could get cred" most of what I saw from NU was legit trying to not get lynched. Let's assume you are right for a moment though. Who do you think is the mafia on NU's wagon? How is this trying legitimately to not get lynched? (in order) On December 01 2016 00:55 NeverUnlucky wrote: Koshi's case on me is great, but I'm town :/ On December 01 2016 03:14 NeverUnlucky wrote: I flipped shit at Calix and Skynx because their cases on me were FUCKING GARBAGE and factually incorrect. This game I hinted that at emperor and LS's posts on me while trying not to be toxic, but Koshi's case on me makes sense. Yes, I am town, 100%. On December 01 2016 04:27 NeverUnlucky wrote: I have to go and can't be there before EoD. If I'm lynched, so be it, I didn't do my job of being town-read. Perhaps I really need to rely on other shit to be town-read. I'm VT fwiw. Good luck. He doesn't post fuck all or try to get another train going. He doesn't give himself enough outs to jump on any of the other lynch trains. He just parrots over and over that he's town. WEAKSAUCE On December 01 2016 04:10 NeverUnlucky wrote: EC - SL - Mahr I liked TT's response to me asking to comment on if he is disconnected or not. It was transparent. I didn't particularly connect with the cases made against him. EC, Mahrgell and SL???? REALLY? EC and mahrgell were town read pretty hard by everyone, and SL wasn't going to happen D1. These were terrible scum reads for the purpose of starting another actual wagon. Don't know how you think this is him actually trying to get out of a lynch. Seems very obvious to me that he was playing for the team. | ||
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